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i am facing a particular quandry... i recently pissed off a scorpio who means the world to me...
How can i regain her love and trust again...
i was an ass and it was all my fault... met M online a couple of months ago... it was flirty and fun... but i never did pay her much attention... until things kinda progressed well... we gradually became more affectionate and closer towards each other... we finally decide to meet up where she was having a meeting and she extended her stay there for the weekend so that we could meet up and get to know each other better... so i flew there for the weekend... it was the most amazing connection I ever had with anyone... we could complete each other's thoughts before we could utter them... we could complete each other's words before we could finish them... we bodies melded into each other... our hands fitted each other like a glove... no matter where we are or what we are doing... our hands automatically found each other without fail... she can reach out when i was looking the other way and somehow i would reach out too without realizing it and clasp her hands... it was just sooooooooooo comfortable to be with each other...
now for the disaster... before i met her... i was involved with another scorpio too... H... we were even planning marriage but due to the distance and her family objections our relationship began to fizzle and died out after a year...
we broke up in april... and since then... H has been the barometer for my relationships... she had inspired so much in me...
in summary... H got in touch with me the week before i was to meetup with M... so out of nostalgia and reminescent... i flirted with H and waxed lyrics of love to her... why did i do it... i dun know... maybe some part of me wanted her back... but i think it was more nostalgia than anything else... i just needed to know mow deep my feeling was for hanan before i meetup with michella... i had a feeling that once i meet up with michella... i would be head over heels with her... i just needed to clear my emotional blockages and just let things sentiments flow like a volcanic eruption... i tend to have a flair for dramatics sometimes... i just wanted to flex my emotions to have it ready for M...
silly me left my gmail on her laptop after doing my internet checkin the day we left... the next day... she confronted me with about the email exchanges i had with hanan... we talk about it... argued over it... laughed over it... i had thought the storm blew over.... OH WAS I WRONG... the next day the storm regained its strength and she said she need time to think and we should just be friends for now... naturally that irked me and i instinctively said no... i have too many gal pals... 95% of my friends are women... dun know why... but i find it very hard to have male friends my age... the few male pals i have are usually much older...
that NO was the worst answer i could give... it killed me... she struck me off with a blow... bing bang boom... i was gone...
i flew to her town this past weekend in order to try to salvage things but it was to no avail... she refused to give me the time of the day and refused to listen to me... she totally shut me out... she simply said that she is extremely busy with her firends and career and has no time for love now... she said that she has decided that she does not want me anymore...
what i dun understand is how she can throw something so wonderful and so right away... it is as if she is 2 different person... jekyl and hyde...
help~~~ what should i do to salvage this situation?
please advise thanks :)
How can i regain her love and trust again...
i was an ass and it was all my fault... met M online a couple of months ago... it was flirty and fun... but i never did pay her much attention... until things kinda progressed well... we gradually became more affectionate and closer towards each other... we finally decide to meet up where she was having a meeting and she extended her stay there for the weekend so that we could meet up and get to know each other better... so i flew there for the weekend... it was the most amazing connection I ever had with anyone... we could complete each other's thoughts before we could utter them... we could complete each other's words before we could finish them... we bodies melded into each other... our hands fitted each other like a glove... no matter where we are or what we are doing... our hands automatically found each other without fail... she can reach out when i was looking the other way and somehow i would reach out too without realizing it and clasp her hands... it was just sooooooooooo comfortable to be with each other...
now for the disaster... before i met her... i was involved with another scorpio too... H... we were even planning marriage but due to the distance and her family objections our relationship began to fizzle and died out after a year...
we broke up in april... and since then... H has been the barometer for my relationships... she had inspired so much in me...
in summary... H got in touch with me the week before i was to meetup with M... so out of nostalgia and reminescent... i flirted with H and waxed lyrics of love to her... why did i do it... i dun know... maybe some part of me wanted her back... but i think it was more nostalgia than anything else... i just needed to know mow deep my feeling was for hanan before i meetup with michella... i had a feeling that once i meet up with michella... i would be head over heels with her... i just needed to clear my emotional blockages and just let things sentiments flow like a volcanic eruption... i tend to have a flair for dramatics sometimes... i just wanted to flex my emotions to have it ready for M...
silly me left my gmail on her laptop after doing my internet checkin the day we left... the next day... she confronted me with about the email exchanges i had with hanan... we talk about it... argued over it... laughed over it... i had thought the storm blew over.... OH WAS I WRONG... the next day the storm regained its strength and she said she need time to think and we should just be friends for now... naturally that irked me and i instinctively said no... i have too many gal pals... 95% of my friends are women... dun know why... but i find it very hard to have male friends my age... the few male pals i have are usually much older...
that NO was the worst answer i could give... it killed me... she struck me off with a blow... bing bang boom... i was gone...
i flew to her town this past weekend in order to try to salvage things but it was to no avail... she refused to give me the time of the day and refused to listen to me... she totally shut me out... she simply said that she is extremely busy with her firends and career and has no time for love now... she said that she has decided that she does not want me anymore...
what i dun understand is how she can throw something so wonderful and so right away... it is as if she is 2 different person... jekyl and hyde...
help~~~ what should i do to salvage this situation?
please advise thanks :)
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 6:31 AM'what i dun understand is how she can throw something so wonderful and so right away... it is as if she is 2 different person... jekyl and hyde... '
She can throw it away because you did the most heinous crime in a Scorpio woman's mind! She didn't throw it away - you did. Sorry to be blunt but I'd cut my nose off to spite my face too and there is no going back... -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 6:45 AMI have to agree with Crazy Bitch on this one. If you truly wanted this woman, you must realize by now that it was not only her that you betrayed with your actions and behavior, you also betrayed yourself. If she does not want you back, there is nothing you can do to get her back. Trust me on this. She has to want it. My advice is to find a way to get your self-respect back before you turn into a bottomless pool of self-pity. -
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 6:59 AMNostalgia and flirting with an ex lover that you wanted to once marry? -on another girl's computer.
It is over -done deal. -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 7:09 AMno no no... i did not do it on her computer... i wrote those emails just before we met up... when i checkin to my flight on my gals laptop... i did not log off my gmail... she saw it and she looked through it...
shouldn't i be the one who's pissed for her not respecting my privacy??? -
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 9:18 AMIf you feel that way then she invaded your privacy.
If you feel uncomfortable having her look through your emails.
Maybe she thought because you left it open -she was allowed- I am not sure .
I am a person who doesn't allow anyone into my purse moreless my inbox.
I am not hiding any thing but rather it is a boundary or comfort issue .
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:23 AMi for one would not ruffle thru her emails even if it was open in front of me...
i agree with u... it is also a matter of respecting the other person... unless with explicit permission... i would not read her open inbox...
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 7:17 AMalright... i am guilty... so how does one move on from here to salvage the situation?
no even a tiny weeny hope of ever getting her back?
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 8:37 AMFrom what I understand..
...you can't.
Pick up your dignity from off of the floor and *move on*.
No more to see here. Sorry.
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 8:42 AMI agree with everyone else.
Talking from my moon/pluto scorpio conjunction... I dont think its humanly possible to regain the trust of a scorp. -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 8:46 AMthats just great... i have nothing but the truest intentions for her~~~ only after meeting her was i sure that she is the one for me... to be my wife/lover/friend/partner in life... i want to grow old with her and have her by me always... which is why this thing is soooooooo disturbing.... she is blaming me for something that was done before we were together... -
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 9:22 AMYou flirted with the other before you were dating? -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 9:25 AMyes... i flirted with my ex before i dated M... as in see her physically... prior to that we merely talked on the phone and chatted online... we got closer and closer... thats why we decided to meet... -
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 9:47 AMScorpio usually say what they mean when it comes to relationships .
They value honesty .
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 10:25 AMi was honest with her...i really do like her when we were chatting... BUT there is no way i can give my full commitment to someone that i have never met... was just reading this in astro.net... perhaps it explains but not excuses my actions
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Mars Square Neptune
You may find it difficult to respond confidently to your lover, not knowing exactly what he or she wants or how to go about it.
You will gain a great deal by making your needs known to each other clearly and verbally, specifying what they are and when they occur so that there will be no mistake about it.
You find a new partner harder to work with, because you do not know all the ins and outs of his or her needs and do not feel free to express your needs verbally. Thus, you tend to hang on to an old relationship, where you are more sure of your ground. This attitude will help you through rough spots in an affair. On the other hand, it can also cause you to cling to a truly unworkable relationship.
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 10:44 AMsperio ~
You realize that you used both of these womens' full names in your original post, right?
Yet you attempted to keep their names private at other points in the same post by using just their first intials......
you are the Jekyl & Hyde character you accuse her of being ~ accept that in yourself first (I would think that will take some time) & then she may give you another chance. If the "chemistry" is still there ~ she will *know* it ~ give her & yourself some credit for being trustworthy, intelligent & complex human beings....... so-called-faults just make humans more interesting & lovable ~ all Scorpios know that..... but I wouldn't advise telling her that ~ it's insulting to be told your own business!
love all-ways,
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 10:45 AMps ~ stop whining -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:09 AMfyi... i am not whining... i am trying to explain and salvage the situation
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:25 AMno i did not realize that... it is hard to keep a straight head at this point in time... this whole fiasco is too absurb~~~ -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:38 AMthat's my entire point, sperio ~ take a step back ~ nothing can destroy real love, but you can get in your own way
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:47 AMyou are right :) point taken :)
sometimes tis hard to stop a lion from plunging straight into trouble... just cannot help it...
you are right... it is worst to get in my own way... i have already made it worst by not having the patience and trust for it to let it ride itself out...
thanks mem :) appreciate your insight -
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:18 PMa scorpio will read your mail, it's part of their need to know / get to the bottom of it thing. sounds like a done deal, but if there really is something there to salvage, you never know. -
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:28 PMI don't think you ever really lose a scorpios trust, it's more "misplaced" or just missing for awhile.
But once you trust yourself again it's amazing how fast that missing trust from your scorpio returns -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 2:52 PMthanks for the positive note :) am working hard to try and rectify this matter... tis not easy to navigate through the mines... -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 3:49 PMThis should help anyone understand scorpios (at least the one's I know)
Mysteries among the pagans was said to take place only in the sign of the Scorpion.
In The Book of the Dead, the deceased likens his soul to a scorpion, saying
"I am a swallow, I am that scorpion, the daughter of Ra!" -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 3:57 PMand that is suppose to clarify??? :)
are u saying that the scorpions have a cold soul? that desires to be free? -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 4:17 PMSperio,
You would do well to examine the underlying nature of Scorpio, which is not meant to be figured out as much as felt. let me explain.
To understand Scorpio, we break it down to its most basic elements. Scorpio is a fixed water sign. Water relates to the feeling nature and "fixed" imples a strong capacity for concentration. Concentrated feeling, or passion, is what drives Scorpio; not reason or logic. Whether the sign of Scorpio resides in the Sun, Moon, Mars or any other planet, is where passion dictates the direction.
Passion runs hot and cold; fire and ice. When it's on, you really feel it and when it's off, it's truly off. This is not a Jekyl and Hyde thing; this is an emotional thing. Your actions and behavior -- regardless of how harmless it appeared to you at the time -- turned this Scorpio woman's fire to ice. She needs time to thaw. But this does not mean that her flames will automatically rekindle with you.
IF there was still passion in her for you, she would have lashed out at you and kept lashing out in fits of rage. That she has withdrawn emotionally suggests, to me, that she is lost to you. Gone. History.
Though this experience will remain with you forever, my guess is that you will learn something here about the nature of your own emotions. And perhaps, begin integrating that part of your own nature symbolized in your horoscope by the house Scorpio rules.
And that, my wounded Leonine friend, is the Scorpion's stinger.
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Re: [ how to regain the trust of a scorpio ]
Tue, November 28, 2006 - 3:47 PM
Being a Scorpio moon and having lots of Scorpio female friends I had a few thoughts. I know for myself I am very very independent and would cringe at the thought of someone checking up on me. Interestingly one scorpio sun friend said that she always felt a war between her thinking she has every right to be free but the other person should always be there waiting when she returns. Somehow the independence doesn't naturally translate to the other person - not easy to be fair about it. Must be that posssiveness....
But on the other hand, I am speaking for myself, I always give my trust at respect up front. Maybe I haven't been hurt enough...but I try to shoot straight from the hip and I don't lie. Omission is a sin to my scorpio side. So yes she was wrong for looking at her email...but in her mind...you are not who and what you say you are..right away at the beginning. Trust is huge...I personally feel like you get it right away and then prove me wrong. So from her point of view...she thinks "if he could seem this way but really be doing this...how can I ever trust him" and then...its just over.
Maybe she'll let you back in...but it will take a long time and lots of patience and proving yourself over and over again. and you have to settle with being nothing morw then a friend. Do you have the stamina for it? -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 4:17 PMi love that possessiveness hahahahaha... it gives a sense of security... my... if a scorpion is not fully into it... she would not be possessive... i take it as a desirable trait... my scorpio likes to possess me... but she sets me free too... it is a very harmonious kind of possessiveness...
tis not that i did not give her my trust and respect up front... i always do that to the person i meet... innocent until proven guilty... i did not give her my full commitment BEFORE we metup... once we metup... she had the whole me and more...
i think what you have said echos her mind...
BUT she has ommitted many things too... and said many things which were not straight... telling me things were such in the past and then telling things were this now...
i write off those as natural white lies that everyone does to protect themselves or for whatever reasons they may have... as long as it does not affect me and her relationship... i dun mind... i am willing to listen... forgive and forget...
i think our problem is that we went into this too much too fast without building upon the foundation of trust... we went into each other wholeheartedly and totally merged without first going thru the trust building stages... it was blind trust... thats why it is biting us back now with all the insecurities and doubt... i do have my fair share of doubts with her... BUT i choose to put them on the backburner first and let the relationship develop further to have it stronger before resolving those doubts...
if i had not metup with her... i would have NEVER put up with such crap for anyone... these things happened prior to our commitment... it should never have been the wrench in our wheels....
i guess no matter how wonderful it all could be... it is up to her to work it out... no amount of persuasion and assurance from me will suffice... she has to determine if what we had is worth working through the issues with...
i can be patient if she would only tell me that she needed time... else there is not much point to wait around... i waited 10 years for a gal once... it is not worth the wait... there is always someone else out there... it is just a matter of when u decide to stop the car and call it home...
when i metup with her... i knew i had found home... i just wish that she did not and would not keep blaming me for what happened before we metup...
leos have a big heart...but they are loyal cats too... they maybe playful before they find their queen... but once they find their queen... they will never play the field again... :) -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 4:21 PMSo funny so you are a leo - actually my leo GF just broke up with a Scorpio guy...they were constatnly warring....but alot of what you said was the same between them. my friend said her scorpio liked to send up "trial ballons" ...tests. I have been possessive over people I was not that into - think its an instinctive trait for me- not to take away from her possible feelings for you though.
Hmmm well it will be a long journey ...but I don't think impossible. Good Luck :-) -
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 7:27 PM:) the times we were together we never did war... it was just one long foreplay...
you are right about the "trial ballons" tis like a minefield sometimes...
tis a long journey that will hopefully lead to a beautiful castle
:) thanks
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