When sun = rising sign

topic posted Sun, December 30, 2007 - 9:34 PM by  Jeremy
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I love meeting people and finding out they were born at sunrise. This usually means that their sun is the same as their rising sign. For one thing, these folk are direct and honest (unless scorpio ;) ) and what you see is what you get.

But in an astrological sense, I like finding these folk because they tend to display a personification of their sign. Because their being AND their persona is rooted in that archetype, I find that they are excellent for finding out what a specific sign is about.

Granted, I haven't met every sign with sun = rising sign, but the ones I have display their signs greatly. An Aries one was almost brutally direct, arrogant and very childish, but also a barrel of laughs (parhaps cos I'm a sag). A Leo was playfully funny and outgoing but also warm and honest. A Virgo was very polite and softly spoken and kind.

Has anyone else seen this in action?
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    Sun, December 30, 2007 - 9:46 PM
    Interesting....I have my sun at 28'48" scorpio and my rising is 0'59" Sag about 1 degree apart. Does that count?
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    Sun, December 30, 2007 - 10:14 PM
    LOL.

    I've met a Gemini Gemini. We talk for hours, when we talk. She looks and acts like the archetype although born mid-morning. Of course, for a month I fell in love with her when she was just testing the waters of graduate school ( I know this though through my psychic powers, lol). Stupid Venus in Gemini of mine. I don't think a "relationship" is in order with her maybe something that my Moon in Aries & Mars in Taurus would like............
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      Sun, December 30, 2007 - 10:34 PM
      I know this one chick who is a Libra sun and rising and is she is such a fucking libra... its ridiculous
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        Sun, December 30, 2007 - 10:37 PM
        That could be a good thing.

        :)


        ~V~
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          Sun, December 30, 2007 - 10:50 PM
          I was born at sunrise.

          My 18 degree Scorpio Sun conjuncts my 21 degree Scorpio ASC.

          I think it's fair to say that I embody Scorpio; the being AND persona rooted in that archetype. And despite any anti-Scorpio bias, I can also be quite direct and honest especially when I actually care about the person and their circumstances (Jupiter opposes my Sun).
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            Sun, December 30, 2007 - 10:54 PM
            **I think it's fair to say that I embody Scorpio; the being AND persona rooted in that archetype. And despite any anti-Scorpio bias, I can also be quite direct and honest especially when I actually care about the person and their circumstances (Jupiter opposes my Sun).**

            I think good Scorpios are honest. At least, the good Scoprs I've known and care about
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              Sun, December 30, 2007 - 11:27 PM
              If Jupiter was not opposing my Scorp Sun/ASC, I would probably become a more misanthropic version of myself. But as it turns out, I am meant to have a conscience.
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            Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:18 AM
            People who are "sun = rising sign" are books that you can judge by their cover. But you have to remember all it says is that you were born in a month and look like it!

            I was born around June-ish but look like late September.

            Kind of how I feel California but look Minnesota in the opposite configuration of that grunge-era song.

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            I see Scorpios not as bad but as "weird factories" or "weird magnets" but in the emotional realm (rather than the mental weird like how Aquarians are weird). Directional emotion (receptive subtype) tends to get intense and weird. People that know they are Scorpios and don't know how to deal with it just do things "because I'm a Scorpio" wearing it like a badge that allows them to be into black and darkness and sex toys. :)

            Honesty is the hallmark of the Scorpio, actually. Its just usually internal and emotional. It, the honesty, says: "I know what I fucking want."

            I don't like my ASC, either, though.

            I don't want to look like a freaking Libra!

            I am going to LIBRAry school though.

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            That other astrological system says I look like a Virgo and I thought the kids in high school were just making fun of me! :)
            • The word "weird"

              Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:30 AM
              The word "weird", along with the words "strange", "beauty", and "charm", are currently in use in quantum physics to address the elusive charactersitics of subatomic behavior. The word "weird" references energy in its potential state, energy that has not yet become anything and wavers on the threshold of materialization.

              When people refer to me and others as "weird", I take it they are refering to our potential.
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                Tue, January 1, 2008 - 8:20 PM
                You Scorpios/Aquarians/ are just factories of the stuff (emotion/thought) in my newbie formulation. Maybe this reflects a quantum reality, on a deeper level than you mean by referencing a different use of the term. An idea of the origin of magic and art is that it exists in taking on an aspect of a quantum state beyond this world if you use the sense of "world" meaning the materialistic mechanistic sense of the term.

                You ain't got shit on the truck drivers, taxi drivers, couriers, and kickers of ant hills of the bizarre. The bomber pilots of Dresdens of odd. The inverse of worker bees collecting the pollen of destruction (creative subtype) to enact change upon the Hive.

                Om namah Shivaya!

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                Anyone know what Nietzsche's rising sign was?
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                  Tue, January 1, 2008 - 8:26 PM
                  Well John, we actually feed these directives to you subliminally to enact and act out whilst we converse and have tea with the universe; the giant hidden yoni behind the moon and all that lies beneath the shabby appearances of our world and our collective nature....

                  Please be advised that you should be receiving new directives from our collective in short order. We've been busy formulating new crap for transmission.

                  Exploding Love Blossoms,

                  ~V~
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                    Tue, January 1, 2008 - 11:00 PM
                    Well, Tilda V Tilda, you have a thing linking Scorpios and Aquarians on your profile.

                    Your minds must be bleeding off to me.

                    *snaps to attention*

                    *salutes*

                    Good Morning Sir, Sgt. <insert my last name here>, reporting as ordered, sir.

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                    Sherpa, words are magic... vis a vis Odin and his runes ala Hávamál. Not too long ago I wrote a shitty paper comparing Odin (and Loki) to Mercury to Hermes to Shiva. The god/planet of Gemini is Mercury. The word weird comes from Wyrd or fate; and the Norns weave the threads of fate at the base of the World Tree.

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                    The planets move along the Weave suggesting things about the time and place we are born and enact their influence upon us. Dawn is a powerful time in any case.
                • magic breathes everywhere.

                  Tue, January 1, 2008 - 8:30 PM
                  "grammarye" is an olde english word for magic, a word that later became grammar...the arrangement of words to communicate ideas and so, effect change in the minds of others; the casting of spells...grimoire... demons.monstrous.com/grimoires.htm
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                    Wed, January 2, 2008 - 12:19 PM
                    "The authors of the two volumes both met terrible fates, as did Al-Hazred. Ludvig Prinn was burned at the stake, and von Junzt was strangled by a hideous monster when he was alone in a locked room." -riiiight
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                    Re: magic breathes everywhere.

                    Wed, January 2, 2008 - 1:16 PM
                    There's MAGIC in the Toilet!
                    At anchor in Tomales Bay...

                    I awake to leave a mid-night pee
                    I turn off the light
                    so that I may see
                    the phosphorescence swirling
                    right in front of me!

                    There is magic everywhere we look...
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              Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:55 PM
              I wonder if the same applies to someone born at Noon.

              I got Sun in Cancer.... Going back to Moon and Ascendant in Virgo.... Mercury in Cancer.

              Every sign is strange... Look at Virgo, and their common, uncommon thoughts. Or Cancer ruled by the Moon, catch-phase Lunatic.

              BUT most of the time I just cannot relate towards what the astrology community has deemed Virgo to be, and the potential Cancer possesses. I am outspoken, frank.... And blunt. I don't hide my feelings, but I'm reserved about expression of them.

              Most tell me I speak my mind, and option.

              Not an ounce of shyness... That supposedly is associated with both Cancer, Virgo.
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    Sun, December 30, 2007 - 11:11 PM
    I'm a double Aquarius, but I feel more like the stereotypical Sagittarius for some reason. Could be the stack of planets in Sagittarius.
    There are some days I do feel Aquatic.

    Peace, Bo
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 10:31 AM
      Interested topic...My grandmother is a double sag
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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:38 AM
        david ray
        Re:I don't know where Scorpio got the reputation of being dishonest. Secretive is not the same thing as dishonest.

        My idea about this is that people step over the boundaries and make nasty accusations about people's temperments if a person doesn't want to disclose things they shouldn't be made to or be considered dishonest or even secretive for that matter -when someone doesn't want to share something its because its none of my business.
        What ever happened to the strong silent type LOL! really I tend to think of most scorpio types as more trustworthy to talk with about my private matters.

        I met a triple Leo once she was exact conjunct and in the leo decant twice with the sun and rising the moon a few degrees different- a fella I know gave the description of her, that it was like she was bouncing on a driving board -I didn't quite get that one but she was brimming with a load of energetic sunshine , I think she had mercury and mars in leo too. Cute little earthquake ma-ma
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          Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:53 AM
          Kate,

          I agree, I find Scorpios to be pretty honest and straightforward. They are the sign that can't lie to themselves even if they tried. But when they realize that not everyone can handle the truth, that's when they keep secrets. Sometimes also there is just so much going on in there it's hard for them to express it, I think.

          If we want to talk slipperiness, that would be Pisces, right?

          David
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            Mon, December 31, 2007 - 12:24 PM
            Potentially weird hmmm ... Scorpio? ... maybe in jail.. or in the bathroom and it is highly likley if they have been given a strange gift.
            And there is that thing they can potentially do their eye brows .
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    Sun, December 30, 2007 - 11:56 PM
    born in the morn,early sunrise, sun in aries six degrees conjunct my asc.
    i've always liked this. :)
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 2:52 AM
      A person being born during the sunrise; connected with the collectiveness of the sign for that day like anything the closer in orb is in degree to each other the more so would be the case.

      Another curious thought is the decants, lets say when the rising sign and sun are in different decants like with sherpa's chart example -the sun was at 18 degrees and the rising was at 21 degrees -so this makes the sun Scorpio/ Pisces and the rising Scorpio/Cancer not to get too heavy but wow that is a heady trestimony for a young child -the young child had to sacrifice or devote a little of himself for others -I won't say for who nor give any possible circumstances or which houses as to the why's but somewhat a tragedy perhaps, and without the fall of its main charator, within the first quarter of the life.
      If the rising sign is dead on I would say as early as age three but not older than 10 because he was born somewhere else than he lives now and I have not fine tuned the difference nor even been asked by him to look at this and without seeing the full chart-P.S. basically sherpa, it stood out and yanked at me in.
      The point to this is stories vary and go far beyond the example of ; me aries /aries, you libra/libra . Infact it extends past me Libra/libra too ait aminute we both are Libra/libra because the degrees and house placement for the sun makes differences along with the rest of the body of the chart.
      The exact degree of rising and sun sign gives certain other house signification than say to that of ones which have different decant degrees . There are such things as sensitive degrees too which furthers the description.
      The sun being in the same sign as the rising is a dream is come true when it comes to transit work and rectifying a time for birth because then it is a matter of which house system works best for the astrologer and client .
      This is a great post topic indeed .
      You guys can really delve deeply here and share some things in common that goes beyond the difference in signs -you can put things into degrees -then sun house placement -whether or not mercury rises before or after the sun -is mercury in the same sign as the sun -what degree is mercury at-the sun sign description comes a bit down the road in my opinion as for a focus but in contast is a great place to start such a topc-all in all a first house sun ,in any sign , is a little different than a 12th house one -have fun astronuts -says the outsider with the third house sun -kate
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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 12:10 PM
        venus and mercury are also in aries. mercury is 22 degrees, venus at 18. my aries asc is 9 degrees, sun's at 3.
        whats interesting and what i tend to encounter is how most people wouldnt guess that i'm an aries.
        i think that has something to do with neptune.
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          Mon, December 31, 2007 - 12:15 PM
          Ja: you seem more like a water sign to me for some reason Taryn.

          ~V~
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            Mon, December 31, 2007 - 12:26 PM
            sidereal astrology i am water. that could be it. ; )
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              Mon, December 31, 2007 - 12:46 PM
              Taryn,

              I took the liberty of checking out your chart on your profile. With the tropical zodiac, your Ascendant Lord Mars is in Cancer, a water sign. This would make you very watery, an Aries but with a Cancer spin put on it. In the astrology I do, the Ascendant is the most important sign, and its lord is the most important planet in the chart.

              Dave
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    Mon, December 31, 2007 - 1:26 AM
    i'm a cancer sun cancer rising and it definitely shows....except for the homebody family thing...i'm pretty nomadic with my living situations, i'm always contantly moving...and i don't want to have kids. but i'll do anything for my friends and family and when i love someone i want to shower them with affection and attention, spend tons of time with them, take care of them, give them things, snuggle, etc.....and im an artist. but my moon is in scorpio so i tend to get pretty jealous which i hate because it always fucks everything up and it hurts me more then anyone else probably. and i don't trust people much.
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    Mon, December 31, 2007 - 9:16 AM
    I am Cancer Sun, Cancer Rising. I prefer to tell the truth, lying to people is very difficult for me.

    Lying to myself, that's another thing entirely.

    I don't know where Scorpio got the reputation of being dishonest. Secretive is not the same thing as dishonest.

    David
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:17 AM
      Question...

      If a person's Sun is in the House that the rising sign rules, would that have a similar effect? Or perhaps something different?

      My Aqua sun, Mars, Saturn in the 6th house, I am Virgo rising....Uranus and Pluto in Virgo, 1st house..
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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:28 AM
        Wow, I was just saying that Aquarians are weird and mentioned Virgo rising.

        :)

        Pretending to know what I'm talking about:
        Maybe you manifest Virgo things while taping into Virgo-like energies with what you desire (mars), what you are (sun), and what weighs/judges your life (saturn) in the manner of how you work.

        You accomplish things in a Virgo way and you look like a Virgo while you are doing it, maybe.
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          Mon, December 31, 2007 - 11:36 AM
          HaH!

          You have decoded the true meaning of FaF! Freak among Freaks....

          And I was thinking you were saying weird a few to many times...began to make me *feel* weird. ; )

          So, I have a Virgo cover, and Virgo Table of Contents with an Aquarian Wizard writing the plot? Yeah I think thats it.
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            Mon, December 31, 2007 - 1:04 PM
            hi jeremy
            i'm a double sag, sun 4 degrees into the first house. i personally feel like i epitomize the sagittarian traits, and am brutally honest (and WANT honesty in return, which most people don't understand). i also have natal moon in the 9th house.
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    Mon, December 31, 2007 - 12:57 PM
    Jennifer Lopez is a triple Leo.
    There was no way that chick was not gonna become a star
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 1:21 PM
      LOL. There is a dude in my friends list that's a triple Leo, and he's not a star."giggles"

      But, anyway, I thought Jennifer Lopez had an Aries Rising.
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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 2:28 PM
        There sure seems to be a lot of rising sun conjunct folks making claims of honesty .
        neither is the cute earthquake I know
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          Mon, December 31, 2007 - 2:28 PM
          star that is
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            Mon, December 31, 2007 - 2:36 PM
            sandra i believe jennifer lopez has leo sun & sag moon and as far as rising sign it's a guessing game since her birthtime is unknown :)
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              Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:21 PM
              **sandra i believe jennifer lopez has leo sun & sag moon and as far as rising sign it's a guessing game since her birthtime is unknown :)**

              Oops, my bad!
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                Tue, January 1, 2008 - 5:37 PM
                hmmm. weird. I once read she has an Aries rising. According to astrotheme, she has a Libra Rising. That would make sense. The woman seems quite monogamous, and she's got that graceful smile...

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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 2:58 PM
        Scorpio I see as the preverbal foot, that kicks the door to truth open, were Sag can then search the room...Bullshit is usually a Scorpio’s #1 pet peeve.
        Manipulative, devious, secretive, controlling, any or all, can be, but never liars. Thus the stinger, Truth hurts sometimes..
        But to with hold truth, can be seen as being dishonest and for some things it is..
        But thats not their problem, now is it...LOL

        I know a triple Virgo, That acts like a Gemini on speed. Her chart makes no sense to me at all.
        Though the Time, just might be off, she insists it isn't..

        My Boss is a Trp Leo, and Boy is he.. The "I'll get my people to take of that"...
        He's Gods gift to this here earth you see....LOL...
        He's a good guy though, Generous?? Not w/ the paycheck
        But he’s a natural smoozer, and that’s just were we need him to be.
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 3:45 PM
      Triple Leo does not necessarily make somebody a star. That would mean having lord of the 12th house (the Moon) in the 1st house, and it would also mean being born under the New Moon. I think that kind of Leo would need a lot of solitude.
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    Mon, December 31, 2007 - 3:52 PM
    An interesting side note to this thread is to think about what natural house the Sun rules from each sign. For each Rising Sign, having the Sun with the Ascendant would bring the energy of a different house to the Ascendant.

    Aries - 5th house
    Taurus - 4th house
    Gemini - 3rd house
    Cancer - 2nd house
    Leo - 1st house
    Virgo - 12th house
    Libra - 11th house
    Scorpio - 10th house
    Sagittarius - 9th house
    Capricorn - 8th house
    Aquarius - 7th house
    Pisces - 6th house

    So a Scorpio Sun/Rising person would be a 10th house energy person. A Sagittarius Sun/Rising person is a 9th house person, etc.

    DR
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:00 PM
      yes unfortunately when she became a pop star she let it dictate the kind of scripts she would consider... all main stream romance comedy crap... & that was exactly what her music fan base was watching... :(
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      Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:03 PM
      David

      I am assuming that your list of natural house correlations are Vedic or Sidereal-based; is that so ? I ask because doesn't Western Tropical assign Capricorn as natural 10th house ruler ?
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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:12 PM
        sherpa
        what he means is the sun rules leo, and each rising sun has leo somewhere. so you look to see where leo rules for each ascendent.

        so for cap, using the equal house system, leo sits on the 8H cusp. so the sun rules the 8H.


        its an interesting way to look at it, but for some signs its hard to imagine. sun rules the 6H for a pisces....so what does that mean? i never correlate pisces to the 6H. or cap to the 8H. how does the solar energy of a capricorn embody the 8H values? or how does the solar energy of a cancer embody values of the 2H?

        i can see scorpios having the ambition of the 10H, and of course sag suns ruling the 9H makes sense.
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          Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:28 PM
          Kalikat,

          I agree the Pisces/6th connection is the hardest one to understand. But most of them make so much sense to me I think it is a useful tool for understanding the signs. Rather than disregard the method, I ask myself what it might be teaching me about Pisces.

          It makes sense to me that Leo is the 6th sign for Pisces, who can have a hard time projecting an individual sense of identity and self-confidence. To Pisces, maintaining that shining Leo presence is hard work! And of all the signs of the zodiac, Pisces is the sign that is most wanting to evolve beyond the individual perception of the Sun & Moon. Pisces wants to exist on the trans-personal level. Maybe Leo ruling the 6th shows that Pisces incarnate so that they can settle their karmic debts in the physical plane before merging with the universal consciousness.

          Just some random thoughts...

          DR
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        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:22 PM
        Hi Sherpa,

        Thanks for the invitation to clarify...

        I am a tropical astrologer, so no I didn't mean sidereal.

        Maybe I didn't use the right terminology. By natural houses, I meant simply counting what sign/house each sign is from any other sign, rather than using the house systems where you end up with signs getting skipped or ruling two houses. To me, the signs are the houses, and the houses show us the relationship between the different signs of the zodiac.

        From my perspective, you are Scorpio Rising and Scorpio Sun, so you have the lord of the 10th house (the Sun) in your 1st house. This shows that you have 10th house influence to your life, the 1st house being the house of the self and your life path. That Sun there makes you want to make something with what you have. The 10th house is the house of action, manifestation, and career status (sort of like the sign of Capricorn), so having the lord of the 10th emphasized makes these things important somehow in your life.

        Even if you don't have Sun rising, its interesting to note which of these "naturally-counted" houses the Sun & the Moon rule from your Ascendant. The Sun & the Moon are the luminaries, the source of our identity, and for each Rising Sign this identity is associated with different houses.

        For Aries, 4th & 5th
        For Taurus, 3rd & 4th
        For Gemini, 2nd & 3rd
        For Cancer, 1st & 2nd
        For Leo, 1st & 12th
        For Virgo, 11th & 12th
        For Libra, 10th & 11th
        For Scorpio, 9th & 10th
        For Sagittarius, 8th & 9th
        For Capricorn, 7th & 8th
        For Aquarius, 6th & 7th
        For Pisces, 5th & 6th

        David
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          Mon, December 31, 2007 - 4:36 PM
          David

          Thanks for clarifying.

          My Sun is actually not in the 1st House but in the 12th house by 3 degrees (conjunct ASC). Would that alter the correlation as you see it ?
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            Tue, January 1, 2008 - 2:39 PM
            Sherpa,

            But do you consider the Sun to be influencing your Ascendant at all? The way you interpret your chart, do you see 10th house influence to your 1st or 12th house, neither or both? However you do it, it's that method of interweaving the houses through their planetary rulers that I was going on about.

            David
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              Tue, January 1, 2008 - 5:17 PM
              David

              I experience my Sun influencing my Ascendant as a way of being myself without a self-image.

              This peculiar embodiment of the 12th house mystique has rendered any idea of, or desire for, a "career" ludicrous. Absurd. Thousands of people -- 99% I do not know -- assume I have this or that career (due to seven books in print, many films produced, astrological practice, etc) but I have never personally experienced it that way myself.

              Though I am somewhat famous in certain circles (google me), fame is not an awareness I live with daily nor am I impressed by it. Fame is what other people think. For me, it's simply one wave in the wake of a very active and unpredictable existence. If a PR consiltant were to examine my so-called career, they would probably wake up to a marketting nightmare. LOL

              I hope my story can illuminate other levels of the 10th house I am missing; maybe you see something.
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    Mon, December 31, 2007 - 5:35 PM
    Libra sun and rising here, but I believe my sun & mercury being in the 12th house perhaps alters this embodiment of all things libra....Come to think about it, I am very happy to have the rising harmony...Otherwise I may not be able to make myself clear as easily to others.....
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    Tue, January 1, 2008 - 9:29 PM
    The only person that I know of who has the same Sun and Ascendant does not really portray typical characteristics of that sign. He is a Sun/ASC Capricorn, and he is the least Capricorn-like person I've ever met. I was surprised to learn that his ASC was in Capricorn. I thought perhaps his ASC was Aquarius, Gemini or Sagittarius.
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      Wed, January 2, 2008 - 4:46 AM
      virgo sun/rising. i am so typical virgo. at least to th best of my knowledge/awareness, and what i've been told. the virgo stereotypes fit me to a T, though i try to not be so cliche....
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    Wed, January 2, 2008 - 7:50 AM
    My LIbra Rising/Sun mate is very much all that! A full blooded Leo...king of the beasts...a big cat...My Scoprio Rising/Sun Scorpio thinks he can hold a grudge really well but alas he is actually a Libra so he has learned all the decorum of polite society and wonders what makes him think of other peoples feelings Wait till he gets the news.

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