i think this idea of the "sign thats hardest to recognize" is a really good way to pinpoint our blindspots and expand our Self-access. As each of the 12 signs exist within us (at various expressions and latencies), the sign we have the most difficulty with can mirror that part of ourselves (the House that sign rules and the planets in that sign) we are out of touch with and/or have repressed or denied.

For the longest time, Aquarius eluded me. I just couldn't get it; totally stumped. Since my North Node is in Aquarius, I also felt that it was super important for me to get a handle on Aquarius. Since gaining more knowledge and insight into Aquarius, I have also clarified my relationship with what challenges me the most and what encourages my development as an earthbound embodying entity (North Node).

Excellent topic, Jill.

mutable water.

You just got to see the Pisces network Jill... It is hard to explain it, but once you have a glimpse of it. They are everywhere lol

i think pisces has a really weird mystique thrown onto them. its almost like the content of what it means is so out there that its not even real..but humans are real and the thing that throws me being a pisces is that i almost buy into that whole mysterious spiritual mutable blending into the formless breath ...but i question it being me or something assigned to me. like its something to embrace out there...not to physically be...does that make sense??? I dont know how useful it is to say what ive just said... theres something about defining something that can create it or render it meaningless.

like maybe pisces energy is something you work towards in your own special way but its not really possible to be it. its like when people meditate for long periods of time and loose all sense of reality and when they come back they have to be watched eyefully because there is no construct of boundary left...they could do almost anything.
pisces is mutable water..so they would pick up on whats around them more...maybe even whomever they are in contact with.
capricorn always throws me for a loop. but my best friend is one...though he has a pisces moon...so maybe that doesnt count. but all earth signs... they are hilarious and make me laff so hard but i feel imaginatively lost with them....and i dont really have much earth in my chart at all. except neptune and jupiter in capricorn in the 11th with hard aspects involved. so i think there is something to not being aware of what it is you're lacking and how much you could understand it..but that fits into what it is to be pisces energy as well...it doesnt translate well in a society and physical realm.

Pisces, definitely. No other sign can hide as well as they do.

The only person I couldn't guess my the predominant energy in her chart was a Pisces Sun, Mercury, Venus and a Leo Moon girl.

She seemed very quiet and feminine, but very confident as well, so I thought she was a Leo at first. I was quite surprised to find that she was "acting out" her Moon, after I did her chart.

I pick up on:
*a major midpoint in a chart
*the house of a stellium
*the house placement of the moon
*planets conjunct vertex
far before a person's sun sign

I don't notice a big blind spot for me with different signs. It does seem like I am more sensitive to some sign energies than others:

*libra - most sensitive to this ... I grew up in "the house of libra"
*sagittarius - sister is a sag (1.5 years apart - we grew up like twins)
*aquarius - I have a personal taste for this energy even if it tends to not have a taste for me so much
*gemini - I always recognize my twin!
*virgo - I feel this one at my core
*scorpio - I see this one right away but mistake lots of other things for it
*taurus - I see this one too right away but I tend to underplay its importance/ second guess
*leo - I have to think about it to pick this one out
*cancer - doesn't stand out but I know it pretty well, I think
*pisces - I just don't pick up on it - but it never surprises me when I find it
*aries - completely eluded me until very recently/ used to be a big blind spot
*capricorn - just kidding! I totally forgot about this one until I re-read this post haha BLIND SPOT!!!


I am forever putting these energies in "the wrong place", though, when I sense them. I simply can't tell the difference between a 3rd house stellium and a gemini ascendant right now.

sherpa,
i do really agree with you when you say "the sign we have the most difficulty with can mirror that part of ourselves.. we are out of touch with and/or have repressed or denied. "

my sun is in Virgo so its no mystery that i can't pinpoint Pisces. i think part of it is that i have so many assumptions about what Pisceans should be like because of the planet Neptunes affect on me during transits, etc.. and yet, they never cease to stump me!

"like maybe pisces energy is something you work towards in your own special way but its not really possible to be it. "
that's a really interesting idea, Christmas, from a Piscean herself with a Sun opposite to mine! thanks for cluing me in.

sandra, when you say

"The only person I couldn't guess my the predominant energy in her chart was a Pisces Sun, Mercury, Venus and a Leo Moon girl.

She seemed very quiet and feminine, but very confident as well, so I thought she was a Leo at first. I was quite surprised to find that she was "acting out" her Moon, after I did her chart."

well, see thats the thing.. i notice that if Pisceans have fire, they just exude the fire in themselves.. and the water is just invisible.. i can't notice their "subtle" self anywhere.

I wonder if this has to do with Neptune being the planet of "fog, illusions, deceptive images" and being associated with the 12th house of our subconscious and hidden side. A Sun in Pisces must be a very weird place to live, as it is tough to put outward expression to such subtle characteristics.

Pi314, im impressed you notice the midpoint first.. i never think about it very much. in which part of person's personality does it strike you?

I'm not sure which signs are the hardest, but I always seem to pick out Capricorns and Leos quite easily. Their physical features (I know this has a lot to do with the 1st house too - have guessed many people's ascendant through this) are so easy to pick out as well as their general demeanor.
I also have a habit of guessing the opposite sign for people. I'll say,"You must be a Leo" and the person in question will say (triumphantly if they're not into astrology) , "Nope, Aquarius actually".

interesting. i can always tell them

its insane.we gravitate toward eachother. i know and run into way too many fishes. its crazy. hehe

yet somehow i knew you were going to say the fishes before i clicked on this

Virgos have perplexed and intrigued me. My older brother is a Virgo and we just don't see things the same way. We've never had outright fights, but I think we've learned to respect the fact that we don't approach things the same way. Could be just a sibling thing, though.
Taurus is a sign that I don't usually get a feel for...and some Geminis.
I've got mostly Aquarius/Sagittarius in my chart and I've frustrated some people.

Peace, Bo

Never forget that Pisces people are mergers. They say that Scorpio's are shapeshifters, but Scorpios shapeshift with intent. Pisces shapeshift almost accidentally. They always seem to carry over the moods of the surroundings, people and situations, and some energies stick more than others so dont be surprised to find them still exuding energy from a previous conversation or meeting even when the mood of the current situation is different. Since emotions and senses tend to dovetail into one another they tend to get erratic or chameleon- like that way.