Has anyone ever thought of setting up a place(online or at a singles bar) where people meet and are hooked up according to their sun, moon, rising(if they know when they were born), venus, and mars signs? It could be the answer to everyone's dating trouble.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:37 PMAnd what formula would you use for that? -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:55 PMI don't exactly know yet, I'm still working out the details lol!!!! What I do know is, you would fill out a form containing your astrological data and the astrological dating service would hook you up w/ your a-alike. Like for instance, if you're a scorpio w/ a virgo moon , a taurus rising, your venus in scorpio, w/ your mars in Libra, the astrological dating service would hook you up w/ somebody who is a Pisces w/ a Capricorn moon, a venus in Pisces, w/ Mars in Aquarius or something close to it. I've been skowering the internet and newspapers for something like this and haven't come across anything like it yet. Maybe it can start here and you may not need a form to fill out. Who knows, it's worth a shot at least(especially if hasn't been done before). -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:03 PMVirgos would lie. I get along great with Virgos..but all the guy Virgos I know seem quite ashamed of their sun signs.
I think some people would say they were Scorpios whether they were or not. Why do people researching dating formulas assume people mostly tell the truth online? I mean in my experience people are exceptionally skilled at deceiving others and more detrimentally, at deceiving themselves. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:16 PMPeople lie about themselves on regular dating websites as well as lie to you in person. I feel it wouldn't be any different from what goes on normally. Besides, there are as much people who are upfront and honest about themselves as there are liars & deceivers.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:00 PMwell that's unfortunate because i'm very attracted to Virgo men. And I can usually spot one anyway... so they wouldn't get the lie past me! -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:34 AMI like the concept of connecting with women based on astrological factors. It's probably the major reason for my continued interest in astrology. And I'm a Virgo (and proud of it) with moon in Virgo AND Scorpio rising conjunct Mars in Scorpio! There was a period of time in my life when I knew two women who had the exact same (by degree) Sun and Ascendant. They each had Sun in Scorpio with Virgo rising. If I could meet more women with that configuration, life would be interesting indeed! I also resonate well with women who have moon in Scorpio and once knew 5 of them within a mile of my rural home. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 9:04 AMIn this day and age it could save a lot time (and stress in some cases) for people who are getting a little tired of the dating scene. It can cut through all of the fluff and hook you up w/ somebody instantly who thinks just like you, can relate to you on many different levels, and is looking EXACTLY for the same thing you're looking for(and why not, these hook-ups are based entirely off YOUR astrology chart and who matches up w/ it sign by sign). If you're a Sagittarius w/ a Taurus moon and a Scorpio rising along w/ your venus in Sagittarius and your Mars in Scorpio, why waste your time w/ someone who's a Libra w/ an Aquarius moon , a Gemini rising, along w/ a venus and mars in Libra (even though you may be attracted to his or her looks) ? If you know your astrology, you know that combination is an astrological mismatch and chances are, it won't work (Save yourself the heartbreak). This is why I feel something like this would benefit a lot people looking for their a-alike. Everyone wants to feel understood by the person you're w/ and if more people were hooked up according to their their natal charts, people would stand even more of a chance in finding their Mr. & Mrs. right instead of waiting for him or her to walk into your life. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:01 AMonly synastry is quite a bit more of a complex art than just matching up traditionally 'compatible' cookbook-style astrological points ~
I agree that more people may be better served by consulting an experienced astrologer at some point during their dating process
<I've read that Vedic astrological matchmakers working on arranged marriages have about a 50/50 success rate ~ a bit better than American ideals of individuals finding their own true, romantic love & marriage partners, where more than 5 marriages end in divorce these days ~ if those statistics are still true ~ using BOTH techniques together only seems to make sense for better 'odds'>
& but without the personal touch of a live astrologer, considering the whole charts of the people involved, not just the most heavily weighted 'parts' ~ the process is likely to be cold & soulless ~ much like what I'm intuiting you are already tired of in the current "dating scene"
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:25 AMMy best relationships have not ever been compatible
sun-sun
moon-moon
venus-venus
mars-mars
situations
It's interesting for another gimmicky way to hook up,
but I think astrology is better for being more aware of problems one knows they are likely to attract than for picking and choosing.
Some other things too, but still not for picking and choosing.
There are trends I have noticed in my best relationships and my most intense ones that none of you would be able to predict
and no one was able to explain when posted.
It just isn't that simple
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:44 AMit's like you are reading my mind, rose :)
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:28 PMWell what exactly are each of your main signs(sun moon, rising, etc......), in addition to the signs of each of your best relationships, and why didn't they work? Also, are you currently in one that does work, why, & what exactly are their main signs? -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:20 PMoh yeah let's give our chart placements to this faceless, friendless avatar.
I think I'll pass. Perhaps i shouldn't be so cynical but it appears to me moonpl may be working on a business plan for an astrologically oriented dating website.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 6:43 PMIm going to tell you right now that
it's a waste of time
I already posted that stuff on here previously and there was nothing conclusive
Be careful getting cocky like that, I guarantee
for certain that if you think your cookbook style is going to trump my 16 years of study
You would get schooled, but I have nothing to gain from that
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 6:49 PMand before anyone else posts their info take a look at moonpie's profile.... -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:42 PMpersonal attacks are not necessary, nor is it useful or productive.
Rose, everyone is entitled to their opinion and indeed discussion of said opinion.
Moonpie, don't take things so personally.
Let's return to the matter at hand.
The problem I personally see with your idea of astrological speed dating is that it may rely on ppl believing in astrology first and foremost, and knowing their time of birth etc. Else you would just use their sun signs which is less 'precise'. Indeed the whole idea might sound a little bit like "oh sorry you're a taurus, and he's an aries, no speed dating for you two then" which is a little bit authoritarian. Its less speed dating and more matchmaking. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:45 PMalso with this idea, it might be more interesting to look at current speed dating and see if the ppl who are attracted to one another and want to see more of each other typify astrological theory first. Perhaps the rising sign would be more prevalent than the sun sign in this instance.
It's certainly an intersting idea, a lot of ppl turn to astrology for relationship 'advice'
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:04 PMi was fine with it being discussed
My first posting was totally headed towards discussion
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 7:58 AMAnd Rose, who says I'm getting cocky and more importantly who made YOU the authoritarian on Astrology. I could CARE LESS about your 16 years of study. Pompous idiot!!!!!!!!
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 7:41 AMWell for one, I'm not on here that often. I first signed up here in Jan. of 08 & it wasn't until a few days ago that I came back on this site due to someone replying to one of my comments seeking relationship advice and while I was on here, I just thought it would be a good idea. It's no quick get rich scheme or nor is way of stealing someone's identity. You don't even have to put down your date of birth, (unless you don't know what your moon, rising, venus, mars signs,etc. and wanted your natal chart done as well). And as far as what's in my profile, I put down "I AM LOOKING FOR A CANCER MOON WOMAN". Do YOU smell a scam? Well, who says I'm not entitled to look for anybody(why, because I came up w/ the idea?). I'll look for whoever I want, when I want (just like anybody else) and will not hold any reservations about it (why should I?) . And Skylar, I don't recall seeing your pictures on here (you just have picture images), so that technically would make you a faceless avatar as well. Rose, you come off like such an arrogant astrological buffoon, you feel like you're so knowledgeable and therefore so quick to judge. If the world were left up to people like you or Skylar, we'd still be living in the stone ages by now. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 8:05 AMOk, lets play nice everyone.
I have studied alot with synastry and have been amazed at how it all works out, so yes there is something to it, I can't deny that.
But it is important too look at the blend of the whole chart, though I do see that the Sun, Moon, Asc, as well as the Sun / Moon midpoint as a good place to start. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:25 AMDude, my comment was based on your existence on tribe only being here asking about astrological speed dating
and nowhere else. I looked because of Skylar's comment, the fact that this is the only place you are supports that idea.
The cocky comment is because by asking people to post the information you did, it insinuates that both what I said and what Mem said ould be discounted, assumably by you. I am not claiming to be able to do anything particular with my study in fact I am claiming that to do something this intensive is much more difficult than we should be claiming to be able to do, That isn't ego based, it's quite the opposite. I do recognize that the way I put it was a bit cocky, I almost added something to it because I was having a mental Kung-Fu moment. It happens. I think it's funny.I didn't mean to upset you quite so much, but I still think mental Kung Fu is funny especially when I'm putting the smack down from a similar place that all of that comes from; you know, recognizing that the universe is more powerful and complicated than any of us will ever understand and using that as a platform to put the smack down from.....Please excuse my further martial arts metaphors. I'm just that way this week.
Oh and I do agree there is something to synastry; however, you start at the cookbooks and then move further into it and it is not so simple, just like every other part of astrology.
Perhaps I could imagine it might be that simple for someone. Maybe it would be nice if it was, but I actually don't think it would be. That's just me. Oh and by the way I'm not as ego-powered as it may seem, after all these years of study I STILL have not felt I understood things enough to do readings for money. Maybe some of you would see that as a personal failing, but I don't. I've only just thought about it the last two years through the promptings of others. If I thought I knew so much that would have started long, long ago. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 10:22 AMRose, it was only idea. Didn't I mention to you specifically that I was "still working out the details"? It was just an idea and I was coming up w/ ways that would seem sensible enough to bring an idea like that possibly to fruition, nothing more nothing less. I can deal w/ the doubters or anyone who may feel a little blaise about an idea like that, that's not the problem because I do understand everyone has got their own opinion on the matter. What I do have a problem w/ (or did at the time) was when you & Skylar went into this little sarcastic rant (what you call your little kung-fu moment) not to mention you writing about your experience in astrology (you came off real arrogant) that I felt was uncalled for, which made me respond the way I responded. However, since reading your last comment, I have a better understanding of where your coming from, so it's all good. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:11 AMIm glad it's all good,
and maybe this will ruin it
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:32 AM" but why is everything little?"
It is all a matter of perspective. Even an aircraft carrier appears small in the midst of the ocean. But it is giant up close. :)
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:03 PMWell, what would you call it if it isn't "little" Rose?
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:39 PMoopsie....I didn't see you were looking for a cancer moon woman...
lol
my thoughts are with you...
If people choose to not to share their natal chart with you... you shouldn't be surprised. -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 6:41 PMRefusing not to share your natal is not something I would be surprised about, in fact it's completely understandable. Especially w/ the internet being what it is, I can't expect EVERYONE to want post their charts on-line (That's why I also thought about it being a singles bar for astrological daters) However on another note, being sarcasticly rude to someone isn't something that easily understandable & tolerable.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:43 PMyep I'm just a faceless avatar...since 2006...
I hope you find the cancer moon woman you seek... (however... that level of astrological generalization may well not provide you with wha tyou seek.. but then again it might.. Go forth and prosper picture-less avatar-man) -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 6:42 PMGoing forth and prospering is something I will do picture-less avatar woman.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 12:45 PMWell smarty pants,
I particularly like Virgo sun men with a dash of Scorpio somewhere. Venus in Scorpio or Pluto conjunct either their Sun or Venus is what I've noticed that I really like, but Scorpio rising could also be fun.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 12:54 PMok. scorpios, with sag asc. maybe cap moon---
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:03 PMNot at all.
Virgo is the 'best' sign of all!
So, howdie, yee all!
;-)
ML.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:04 PMHow about (also) matching people that 'should' have nothing in common whatsoever.
Like tons of 'bad' 'mutual' aspects!... )
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:45 PMMost of the strongest relationships I have seen have had none of the common "good aspects" you see in synastry........... -
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 3:37 PMApart from astrology being catastrophe and Newtons and Keplers idiots, I agree. Never I saw anything logical in synastry at all.
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 5:39 AMhey, i am single!
but i don't believe in online dating, nor i believe in matching up two people by their horoscope. of course i know, that there are people, who were successfully met online, and it become love.
so i wish my moon was in cancer......lol
but moonpi, don't give up, maybe you are one of the lucky guys, who can meet someone this way!
all the men i have dated had totally different placements all the time.
i love to spend my time looking at synastries, composite charts, but i don't think
in a real love it matters what is where. first you gotta fall in love, than you can check out the stars. than if it doesn't work, it is maybe because of the other persons pluto falls in your 4th house. even if everything else clicks, there still can be fatal placements.
i have a friend, whit whom i have all harmonious aspects in synastry. ALL BLUE-NO RED-- lol
we have never got mad at each other, we radiate peace when we are in the same group of friends, we have great conversations, he even fell in love with me, but i could never imagine anything with him, because i find him dirty, and he bites his nails, and all kind of little things what makes him repelling to me physicly. other than that he is a sweetheart, and a very clever guy, i like him a lot.
ok, that was what i had to say,
i don't mind if "faceless avatars" see my chart, i have nothing to hide in that drawing. i don't think anyone can harm me by looking at it. the THING is not the chart, it is the person itself. without knowing me you won't see what is in me just by looking at my chart. and if people with little knowledge on astrology draw silly conclusions, or making judgments by looking at my chart, i don't mind that either. it is their problem.
that is why i don't believe in this kind of match making, but again, i wish it worked for lonely people. maybe you can open a new tribe "single's webastrocafebar"
Ree
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 6:12 AMInstead of knowing your chart, know yourself. I don't know anything about astrology (atleast not more than the average person im sure) but I will say that it is still related to patterns of energy that create form. I found that through meditation, I have accumililated possible traits from all of the zodiac archetypes, but I have yet to act on them regularly and I have started to diminish my own reactive patterns.
I am a celibate personally, because I don't want to settle for anyone who I feel is not making an effort to train themselves in the art of living. But who is the authority on these matters? Who can say whether or not someone is trained and disciplined? Well, its a matter of opinion deduced from behavior. After a 6 year relationship that almost resulted in marriage, I really found out the difference between attachment and love.
Astrology would say that my ex and I were compatible, and indeed we were, until I had psychedelic mushrooms that resulted in a shift in my priorities. (note, most girls freak out when you tell them that you love everyone) Once I started growing through daily meditation and yoga, her reactive patterns became a hinderance on my growth which resulted in frustration.
Lesson learned, find someone who is allready on the same path as you, and you will probably find a more interesting connection based on recent habitual behavior instead of innate instincts that could have been warped through childhood development.
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 6:16 AMWhat about the carl jung personality test? I would be more interested in seeing if certain types are compatible. I am an INFP for example, and I remmeber when I took the test that they reccomended me to stay away from the type that I was with at the time. I forgot what her type was, but I definitely did not disagree with the comparison. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 6:58 AMRalph, some time ago there was a survey on this tribe asking MTBI and Sun,Moon and Asc. The results were never posted.
moonpi, I sense that your motives are genuine, however, I have been here +- 3 years and have seen my share of trolls etc...people are reluctant to put alot of info and energy into someone elses inquiry. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 7:02 AMOh, moonpi,
It might be helpful for you to start with your chart and the aspects that you see affecting your relationships with others.
And YEAH Virgo's rock.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 1:50 AM"What about the carl jung personality test? I would be more interested in seeing if certain types are compatible. I am an INFP"
hmmm this is more interesting i reckon. I always felt when learning about Myers Briggs type testing and also Belbin team testing if the results were not somehow related to astrlogy. I'd wonder if and INFP would describe your astrological 'profile'.
I am an ENTP and am a Gemini Sun, Aquarius Moon and Scorpio Asc.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 6:44 AMHere is a thread about personality types, if anyone wants to tally, go for it!
astronuts.tribe.net/thread/9...e784790c8
There are other threads too, if you need more, do a search...
My point here is that these great ideas always seem to peter out without reasults. At least this one doesn't require too much time and energy for the respondant.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:55 PMI want it on the record that I did not call you a troll.
I have to concur with someone or other who suggested that you should post your own chart if your so interested in those of others.
I think that's what irked me most.
However. I still don't share my chart online. I consider i t private..old fashion, I know..but that's me.
I apologize for my speculation that you were working on a business plan... that was perhaps a bit insensitive....
Pardon my suspicion.
AS I may have said before... I hope you find what you seek..via speed-dating or anything other method that suits your fancy...sincerely. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:23 AMI think it's a good idea Moonpi, and I hope you find your gal.
Where compatibility is concerned maybe you should have the people request what they want, like you and your Cancer moonwoman. That way it doesn't get boiled down to just textbook astrology compatibility. Only because not everyone wants to be so compatible. One astrologer called it "the all dressed up with nowhere to go" syndrome. It looks good on the outside but with no 'oomph", no conflict, and no growth. I've been in such a relationship. But the downright compatible thing might work if you're looking for good friends. What if we did it for friends, too? Or use a highly skilled, unorthodox astrologer who can look at a chart and give me someone with just enough oomph and compatibility.
I know a lot of people who have an astrological preference, including myself, so I think the idea rocks. But online dating is not my thing, make it a cafe'. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 11:58 AM"the all dressed up with nowhere to go"
lol!
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 1:34 PMSkylar, where did I mention that you said the word "troll" or are you being sarcastic again? -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:27 PMnope. I wasn't being sarcastic...I was just clarifying that I didn't throw that term around...(maybe I thought at the time someone else had implied you were something of the sort)
I don't like the use of the term troll for every person on tribe who doesn't conform to one's likes...
I was just including a disclaimer...to make it clear...that I don't and didn't use that term.
Again: I hope you find who you seek or found whatever astrological site or cafe that suits your fancy...
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:29 AMralph
my issue was not only being asked MY info but also all the details of my relationships and the inter chart dynamics
That is ALOT of time to ask of someone while offering nothing in return especially when it is a retort to attempt to disprove something you have said while offering no qualifications to do so or any clear manner in which they will proceed to do so,
it's alot of other people's information that isn't mine to give and it is alot of personal information to ask of someone you don't know...
my chart is in my picture anyone can look at it.........
I think trolls are technically people who come onto a thread in order to purposely cause drama and derail threads for no real reason, isn't that right? No one here did that.....
however,because moonpi seems really reactionary (and angry, generally) I am not coming back to this thread or responding to his last comment towards me
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:54 PMRose, everything was apparently "all good" until you wrote and I quote "I'm glad it's all good, and maybe this will ruin it but why is everything little?"(In response to my description of your "sarcasm", and your so called "kung-fu moment" where you started attacking my idea of astrological dating) I responded to you by writing "Well, what would you call it if it isn't "little Rose?". And I wasn't even being sarcastic, I really wanted to know. But because you saw the way this on-line conversation was heading you all of a sudden want to portray yourself as the victim (and me as the aggressor) when you know very well it was your comment about me being cocky, how I would end up being schooled through your 16 years of astrology study, as well as Skylar's "faceless/friendless avatar" comment speculating that I was a con artist that started this whole thing. And that's not trying to stir up any kind of controversy, that's exactly how it happened. You're indirect accusation of me causing drama on this board is definitely a CLASSIC example of "The Pot Calling The Tea Kettle Black".
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:22 PMWhy should I have to think to ask someone's chart info, it's a harmless question. It's not like I'm asking you for your Social Security number or something. Again: You don't even have to reveal your date of birth or anything, just the signs. If you do choose to reveal your date of birth (including time) to find out your rising sign, that's on you, it's optional.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:09 PMThe only reason why I asked you and Rose for your charts, your ex-lovers charts, and your current lovers charts, was because to find out on an astrological level why the relationships you had in the past didn't work and why the one's that you may be currently involved in do. If you found that somewhat offensive then I apologize. And to respond to you & Rose's other statement about posting my natal chart if I'm so interested in those of others, here it is:
Sun- Scopio
Moon - Pisces (Hence the username "Moonpi")
Rising - Scorpio
Mercury - Scorpio
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Libra
As you can tell, I have ALOT of Scorpio in my chart. Finding a woman ISN'T the problem for me, it's finding the woman that's better for me(THAT's the problem).
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:26 PMPardon my grammar, I meant to write............."Finding a woman ISN'T the problem for me, it's finding the woman that's better suited for me(THAT'S the problem).
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:42 PMgimme a break. that's not a chart, it's a partial list of planet signs.
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 9:15 PMWell who are you to decipher what is and what isn't a chart. And while we're on the topic, what's you're natal chart if you think I'm being so INSECURE?
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:49 PMthat's not a profile either
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 3:26 PMWow. I've never seen so many virgo-supporters in my life! It makes me feel so bubbly inside...
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 9:09 PMWell, what else are you looking for my social security # or is it my credit card and bank account #'s? And for the record, giving out a personal chart info on-line is not a job, it's something you volunteer to do, therefore there is no BREAK to be given.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 4:16 PMbeing a scorpio does not mean that you won't have trouble finding a woman nor more than being a gemini means i don't need spellcheck.
in fact many scorpios are inherrently mistrusting and can struggle with a lot of emotional difficulty with opening up and appearing vulnerable.
it seems obvious however that other scorpio like qualities such as a refusal to walk away without getting your side across and also the infamous scorpio pride is what's coming across more.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:22 PMWell, that's where I disagree. Especially when you have a guy like Stevo trying to be a sarcastic smart-ass (as well as another astrological know-it-all). It's one thing to state your opinion on the matter (which I once again don't have a problem with), it's another thing however when you start off your sentence w/ "Gimme a break........". That already is going to immediately start things off on the wrong foot and people shouldn't feel surprised by the way I respond when it's only in response to what was said(or rather written) to me on this board. We're all mature adults, it is humanly possible to state your opinion without coming off arrogant,rude, or sarcastic. And also when I mentioned that I didn't have any trouble meeting women, it wasn't meant that it had anything to do w/ me being a Scorpio, it's just not something I wouldn't consider a hard thing for me to do (and that's not being cocky by the way) I just can't come up w/ the words to explain it better than that. I can see though how you might have received that impression from the way the sentence was phrased when you initially read it. -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 1:24 AMok fair enough. In response to the ppl who said that isn't your chart, they're quite right.
It's simply a list.
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:52 AMBut Paul nobody is pressuring, you would HAVE the option of wanting to be hooked up astrologically or not. After all, it's an astrological dating service where you would get hooked up according to the signs within your chart, so at some point revealing your chart info would eventually come into play. Besides, most people are very skeptical about posting their credit card info on-line, yet millions of people go on e-bay, download from i-tunes (where credit card info is required), & purchase from amazon.com daily. Now whether my chart is a "chart" or a "list", I personally don't really see much of a difference considering that it wouldn't be any different from someone who knows everything except their rising sign which determines your midheaven and which signs are in houses 1 thru 12. It may not be a complete chart but it's still a thorough enough chart that contains very revealing information concerning the main signs that help define a persons character. Just like w/ me and my "mini-chart". With it, you can probably tell why I am the way I am without even having to find out what my midheaven is or the other signs the houses are in. My mini-chart pretty much explained to you who I am at the core emotionally, intellectually, relationship-wise,etc. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 3:21 PMNo I totally understand about the credit card bit.
With regards the chart i guess it all depends on how much detail you're looking for.
Your "mini chart" doesn't tell me what's aspecting the Asc. or more importantly for a dating service the Dec.
It also doesn't tell me what house Venus and Mars is in for example. That's my own quibble with not having a proper chart to look at.
In realtionships the planets making aspects to Asc., Dec, Venus and Mars are quite key.
However your point about most ppl not knowing that is quite true. Your Sun, Moon and Asc. is probably enough.
Having said all that speed dating is primarily just a bit of fun and your idea certainly gives it a unique twist or a unique selling point which would be crucial for the marketing of it. It's certainly an interesting idea!!!
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Sun, May 25, 2008 - 3:53 AM>>Now whether my chart is a "chart" or a "list", I personally don't really see much of a difference <<
Well, I see a lot of difference. In your short list, I don't see any configuration from which I'd be able to get a holistic sense of what the chart is "saying" --it's like if instead of telling you that my name is Stephen I told you that my name contained the letters N, E, P and S. Nice to meet you, gimme a shout anytime. A chart encompasses 360 degrees divided into 12 signs, all (360/12) of which are significant whether there are any planets occupying them or not. Are you here to discuss astrology, and in some instances your own chart, or are you here to play games? BTW, my chart's in my profile, as is anyone's who hopes to learn anything about themselves through the art of astrology. Not to say that some people don't use try to use astrology to study (or exploit!) other people's behaviors and characters.
So, if all you care to provide is a selected list of planet/sign associations, all I can offer in return is a fragmented, stereotyped observation: looks like an insecure scorpio to me.
Furthermore, your credit card analogy was totally pathetic. Nobody's going to be able to bill your chart for their eBay purchases. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 9:20 AMStevo opinions are like voices we all have a different kind. You see a lot of difference, I don't. Are YOU an astrologist? Because you seem like the type that takes so much pride into your so called astrological knowledge that you come off like someone who comes on threads and tries to belittle anyone who you feel isn't on your level of astrological intelligence. Let me ask you something, are your little sarcastic remarks a result of pride, vanity,or do you inwardly feel that me starting an astrological dating service would be like the blind leading the blind because in your opinion you may not feel that my level of astrological intelligence matches up to yours to run a zodiac dating service?Or do you feel like I'm just plain hiding something about myself(NOTE: hold tight, I'm going to get back to you on that one in a minute)? Also, did you read the entire thread or did you just pick and choose the comments you chose to read w/out reading the entire "tribe discussion"? Don't get your panties in a bunch steveo it's only an idea. Now regarding my credit card analogy, I also made an analogy regarding my Social Security#, yet I didn't notice you mention and criticize that analogy, which leads me to believe you partially agree w/ my statement but your pride won't allow you come out and say it because me & you are NOT on good terms. Whether you feel that my mini-chart is a shopping list or a full chart, one thing you can't say is that I'm not revealing any info about myself when I just did a few comments ago(just not to the degree that YOU were hoping). And in reply to your other statement, I heavily disagree w/ you when you compared my mini-chart to someone saying "My name contains the letters N.E. P. S, instead of just saying my name is Stephen" when as a knowledgeable human being, you would automatically and instinctively know what your name is and how it's spelled, therefore you would have the option of giving somebody your full name or not(unless you suffer from amnesia or dementia and can't remember) whereas w/ astrology not everyone instinctively knows their entire natal chart involving midheavens,rising signs, sextiles, etc. to decide if they want to volunteer that info or not(they may not have a choice to volunteer anything if they don't know it). So at the end of the day, your problem w/ me isn't that I'm not that I'm not revealing anything about myself but that I'm not revealing enough about myself for you to consider a full natal chart (or to use for other purposes because as much as you think I may be on here to exploit people, who is to say that it isn't a secret hidden agenda of yours that people haven't caught on to yet, if that be the case). And for the record, at this point I don't need to read your chart anymore to know that you're another pompous,ego-driven, arrogant astrological buffoon. And also for the record. I'm here to discuss WHAT I WANT, WHEN I WANT, whether you think that I'm on here to play games, manipulate & exploit people, I could really care less. I don't respect you enough, I think YOU"RE PATHETIC! -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 10:21 AMno need to get personal on the matter.
just as you say your opinion is valid so too is his. calling him pathetic for his opinion whilst demanding the right to air your own is hypocritical and unjust.
This is only a discussion board for discussing ideas and receiving feedback/insight etc. let's keep it that way and not lower ourselves to namecalling. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 10:37 AMhe had his air time and stated his opinion,so i'm going to state mine. he started it, i finished it(unless if he wants to keep it going). i give respect to people who show me the same, end of story. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 11:00 AMI would rather shovel a horse's stall . -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 11:51 AMWho & what are you referring to? -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 2:45 PMjust my preference
compare the chart list to a statement taken out of context.
i don't want to try to derive anything from a selective list of parts because i see charts as intra-active organisms, where nothing bears very much meaning out of context.
as far as synastry goes, looking at several planet placements and an ascendant, with no other indicators of how they correspond with the whole or even with each other, is more likely to be misleading than not.
It's reasonable to study the parts in isolation in an abstract academic sense, but I don't suspect that such part lists really even begin to serve as indicators of compatability.
The bigger question (which has nothing to do with credit cards or SS#s) is why would one take the tome to type or paste up fragments of a chart when simple time and location data could lead to much clearer insights.
I simply fail to understand what some people (not just you) think they are protecting by concealing most of the data. WHY go to the trouble of hiding it? WHAT's the risk of sharing it? -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Tue, May 27, 2008 - 5:59 AMBut who says I'm concealing anything that's what I really want to know. I'm just mainly concerned w/ the main signs (sun,moon, rising, etc.)that define who I am inwardly, and how I may appear to other people, maybe I'm not exploring the whole spectrum, maybe I may not have to . I am by no means an astrology expert (hell I'm still learning) but concealment was the last thing on my mind when I wrote out my mini-chart a few weeks ago. As a matter of fact, I just recently found out that my rising sign was Scorpio (making me a double Scorpio) and it wasn't until December of 07 that I really started taking astrology seriously like that. I admit that I still have more to go to completely understand it. That of course isn't to say that people don't purposely conceal their data (Skylar calls it being old fashioned) but I think when you really look at it for what it is, it's because they're afraid that someone having access to that kind of info could use it as way of manipulation and mental control which I can understand to a certain degree. The only reason why I say to a certain degree is because if you have faceless avatar on your page, what do you have to lose? Nobody knows who you really are (like what you were saying), so I partially agree w/ you regarding that matter. However some people (including yourself) post their actual face on their page and some (not all) w/ a face on their page may also hold some kind of reservation about posting that kind of data for the same reasons previously mentioned. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Wed, May 28, 2008 - 6:05 AMmoonpi
you're wise to not reveal everything about yourself. However there is really no harm in posting up your chart. You can choose not to show personal info such as name/time of birth etc. If you're wary/afraid of anyone thinking "he's a b*st**d, that double scorpio" then don't be. If people do express those views, they're in the minority. I've had my chart posted up here and not one person has ever been zodiacally prejudiced to me, they're unlikely to be to you.
As a double scorpio, i'm sure you're aware of your need to secrets and privacy. It is in your nature perhaps to want to control those aspects of yourself which are revealing to you. However, posting your chart will not automatically spill out all those secrets. Hitler was a taurus with libra rising. Any astrologer would look at that and think "he's got the makings of a loyal and steadfast diplomat", instead he was a power hungry lunatic.
Your chart does not reveal who you are or leave you open to mindless psychological dissemination, it only reveals potentials. Free will is involved, your choices are far more important than your natal chart. Who you are is not summed up by the planets, it is summed up by the choices that you make. There is no harm in posting your chart.
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Sun, May 18, 2008 - 7:19 PMmoonpi I think you should definitely do it I'd go. Not that this is THE solution to harmonious relationships but everything else is hit and miss so why not try this. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Sun, May 18, 2008 - 9:12 PMThank you for the encouraging words Chrisstie. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 10:55 PMsometimes it's not the content itself, but the undertones that are most enlightening...
innerestin indeed...
as far as my astrological human shopping list:
gimme squares!! gimme opposition~!!
pepper my trines and seXtiles with some hot tense squares.
oh yeah...
i loves me a challenge...
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 3:38 PMi agree... squares in synastry can definitely be hot and tense... which is nice. :) sexual tension is just kinda fun. -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 9:05 AMI prefer a lot of sextile conjunctions (!) and teines..sure a square or two..OK but high drama comes wth squares as well..sometimes -
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 9:06 AMthat would be "trines"..tines wouldn't be as much fun..
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 3:35 PMThe best comes with
mar 0 ven
ven 0 mar
mo0 0 sun
sun 0 moo
when i was voodoo it happened to me
i stilll...
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 3:38 PMWho WANTS a harmonious relationship anyway?
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 9:34 AMAmerica has been born with Serpens Cauda, the tail of the snake ascending, but it might have as well been Aquila or the eagle rising at east in Philadelphia.
The first thinglings to unschool are our masoinic forefathers who knew nothing of astronomy, just wore funny kilts, that in turn have nothing to do with one-eyed pyramids and KEM or Egypt. lulu.com/astrology Unschooling the Zodiac since 1992
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 3:32 PMI knew a guy who was a sailor. he used to meet girls. During the conversation he would calculate and direct synastry to formulate why did he meet the girl. he Venus 180 Neptune 1 - 7. In 10 minutes he's calc synastry plus LILIT VERA and parts.
That was I suppose his blitz astro synastry. Not difficult to learn but needs practice.
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Re: Astrological speed dating
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 3:40 PMAt a singles bar people are hooked. It takes an say Uranus primary to wake them. But without PERSONAL POWER they are stuck in tropical astrology, not Seychelles. Simpsons are not Ramones, alright?