http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#ef8a874b-0f3b-4229-b91b-6ea6c05afb43 If you go to amazon, you can get screen shots easily. Here are the steps: 1. Go to amazon.com 2. Find Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption 3. Click on "Search inside this book" (beneath the book image) 4. On the left, you'll see a "Search inside this book" box. Type in 12th or whatever you wish 5. You'll get a list of result. Each link will take you to an excerpt I hope this helps you! And if you don't end up buying it, go to a Library. That's what I did. But I'm a librarian that seems to be making a plug for supporting your local library :-). Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:22:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#ef8a874b-0f3b-4229-b91b-6ea6c05afb43 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-29T05:22:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#f2dc86a2-64a6-4a38-95b4-20e4eeaa60f6 hi juanita, i saw a post of your's in the 12 house tribe i think, and found the similarities to be exciting. there is another lady on here that has similarities to my chart, but that 12 house stuff is rather rare. Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:01:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#f2dc86a2-64a6-4a38-95b4-20e4eeaa60f6 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-27T17:01:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#4773893b-6829-47eb-954d-8127bf53a59e coolio, could you scan a page or two? i think ill be able to buy it in december (: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:58:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#4773893b-6829-47eb-954d-8127bf53a59e Luis - Amiable? DONT talk to me 2006-09-27T16:58:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#78fc74ec-7e88-4e3a-9a99-c8603428b874 From Liz Greene's "The Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption" Paraphrased: 12th house describes our legacy of ancestors. Here we find our deepest roots in terms of race, religion, and our family culture. We have inherited generational images, myths, traditions, feelings, and dreams from our "stock". Forgetten places, the past, skeletons in the familial closet all belong to the 12th house. "Neptune in the 12th house is a transmitter of the richness, darkness, and light which came before us." Can also describe a mother's pregnancy. Love this sentence: "As a medium for the archetypal themes of ancestral collective, Neptune in the 12th is particularly attuned to feelings and images of suffering and redemption." Religious issues (which can be ancestral baggage) are dealt with a 12th h.n. and it's important for this person to learn about his/her spiritual heritage. Can be dragged home in spite of ourselves... not only in religion, but in art, in self-expression, where the person exhibits an "old soul" interested in things possibly long-dead. More 12th House Nep: Craving for drugs. Inclination towards retreat. Receptive. Spiritual. Suffering savior. Visionary. Artist. "The buck stops here." I haven't had an opportunity to read the entire book (am working on it!). So I'm not sure if she covers Neptune conjunct ASC. Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:15:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#78fc74ec-7e88-4e3a-9a99-c8603428b874 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-27T04:15:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#037202b8-50e9-4dad-90cf-c7662a7618b0 The "hey there" was directed to Star_Fish. I'm not sure why it didn't post under her first post. Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:54:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#037202b8-50e9-4dad-90cf-c7662a7618b0 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-27T03:54:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#3c913fc0-07c4-4b43-899f-b013812fe409 Hey there, besides a 12th house Pisces in common, we share the Saturn in the 1st house too. My Sun trines my Neptune. I wonder what other similarities we share. Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:51:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#3c913fc0-07c4-4b43-899f-b013812fe409 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-27T03:51:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#3696ccb3-6393-4916-842e-b6f51373d5cd Thera- I think everyone has to some extent. It's there in everyone, just some pay more attention to it than others. Or are one foot out of this world, so can translate it ti reality better.. It happened to me alot that I feel a Deja-vu, or after something happens then I realize, I knew this already. Neptune, “The Subtleties” Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:33:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#3696ccb3-6393-4916-842e-b6f51373d5cd Dragon-of-Q 2006-09-27T01:33:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#050d4f36-b7c8-4027-810b-8897e2d6c9fb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precognition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream Dreams predict the future. Bullshit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prediction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:41:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#050d4f36-b7c8-4027-810b-8897e2d6c9fb Harmen 2006-09-26T21:41:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#ac5c619e-669f-45a9-a3d9-881352ee387f please excuse my ignorance, but, what are precognative dreams? Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:34:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#ac5c619e-669f-45a9-a3d9-881352ee387f Luis - Amiable? DONT talk to me 2006-09-26T21:34:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#c13378e0-849b-4e84-a4d5-8cd1218790f5 My daughter has Neptune in 12th Scorpio closely conjunct Scorp. ASC. She has had precognative dreams all her life. Not often, but amazing when they happen. She has a Sag. Moon which probably enhances that ability. Yet, I don't think she feels invisable, but she can definately be duped by others. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:47:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#c13378e0-849b-4e84-a4d5-8cd1218790f5 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-26T20:47:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#eccdf99d-31b7-4444-950c-5138d7e19c0d getting lost in other realities - especially the 12 house - in order to 'find' myself... pretty much sums up my life untill after my saturn return. once i hit 30's a completely new consciousness unfolded. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:21:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#eccdf99d-31b7-4444-950c-5138d7e19c0d $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-26T19:21:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#6b6b18fd-13f2-4acf-91c1-6070118f1e08 star_fish: ahah x) yeah, i think i could have used the word transparent as well... even though you may see through something either invisible or transparent, the difference is, you ACKNOWLEDGE the existence of something transparent.. erm.. where was i? ah yes, anyways, yes, thank you, i couldve used that word as wlel "my 12 house stellium is responsible and was much worse as a kid.." so very true! ive also got a 12th house stellium (which stretches all the way to the 1st), and, INDEED, it was way, way worse as a kid. i dont know, perhaps its been the self-consciousness whats made a difference, i dont know, but.. god, im just grateful all those years are loong gone by now and, although some of their influence is still present, its diminuishing every day, anyways. which is also something good "i get a lot of help with this from my aries rising along wtih other fire influences.." now, there, thats where i disagree. with 9 out of 10 planets in feminine signs... i havent had that sort of help in, well, all my life. if i shall think of an equivalent to your "aries rising along with other fire influences" i must say.. its, oh yeah, definitely my Scorpio Moon/Aquarius Sun square and the strong will it confers (and, plus, the other bunch of fixed planets ive got too). thats, i think, whats made me GET UP and DO something about.. something. "othrewise id be non-existant due to the completely different reality of the 12 house im so familiar with"!! once i read, also, that a nep conj asc person should be really careful around alcohol, drugs and whatnot. i dont know about you, nep-cong-asc and 12th-housey people... but im terrific-ly attracted to doing all sort of things and getting lost (not literally, but the other figured sense). Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:02:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#6b6b18fd-13f2-4acf-91c1-6070118f1e08 Luis - Amiable? DONT talk to me 2006-09-26T19:02:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#88747465-267f-48a1-a068-f487bb9245eb louis, i often feel what i call 'transparent' but invisible is a powerful word too. my 12 house stellium is responsible and was much worse as a kid...i also have sun square neptune, a 12 house sun, along with a neptune opposition from saturn in the my 1st house. i get a lot of help with this from my aries rising along wtih other fire influences..otherwise i'd be non-existant due to the completely different reality of the 12 house i'm so familiar with. ;-) Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:35:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#88747465-267f-48a1-a068-f487bb9245eb $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-26T18:35:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#4b753b74-1936-4bd6-88fb-642d1b73c2c4 I liked your article. I have Venus-Neptune conjunct in the 9th house in Scorpio, less than 3 degrees apart. (I'm a musician, artist, and writer). I've definitely fallen victim to my idealized vision of others and been sorely disillusioned. I've experienced power struggles at work and in love relationships,(Mars trine Venus and MC from 6th conjunct the moon in Cancer on the 7th). I've had power struggles with my superiors, resulting in utter upheavals and transformations in my life and orientation to others, (Venus and Neptune both sextile Pluto which rules the 10th and is conjunct the 7th/8th cusp). I have Jupiter forming a wide trine to this conjunction from Pisces in the 1st house. This both attracts Neptunian types, ie., dreamers, "losers," addicts, deceivers, wayward, needy, or wounded souls to me and helps me recover positively when they go, gaining inspiration for my art. Uranus is quintile Venus and tightly opposing Jupiter from the 7th and has helped me become more intuitive as I grow and mature. I'm learning to balance my compassion with wisdom and have had very painful lessons regarding developing appropriate boundaries. I definitely swing from hermit to party girl and back in a nano-second! Overall, with my Capricorn Ascendant conjunct Saturn in the 1st in Aquarius and squaring this conjunction but trining my Virgo sun in the 8th, I see my very slow maturity as useful in developing a deeper, more practical but universal vision of life and love expressing in my art. Thanks again for the insightful and inspiring article! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect#Conjunction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpio_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_(planet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_%28genus%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_zodiac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_astrology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(planet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cusp_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisces_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus_(planet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricornus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropic_of_Capricorn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_%28constellation%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_strider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_%28constellation%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_%28astrology%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_sun vision of life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman vision of love http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_of_Love http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_expression http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/insight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artistic_inspiration Tip Look to Earth. It is near. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:54:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#4b753b74-1936-4bd6-88fb-642d1b73c2c4 Harmen 2006-09-26T14:54:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#b41aef70-c233-495c-b7ba-188e65d5fe42 Lets take a look at this one: http://www.astrodatabank.com/AS/RSFeedback.asp?RschID=12 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:16:25 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#b41aef70-c233-495c-b7ba-188e65d5fe42 Harmen 2006-09-26T14:16:25Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#a1c6d2b0-93c4-4fa8-8c56-8b0ccfeb787f No. But. I am a sagitarius http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zodiac_woodcut.png http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kd_sag_e.htm Astrologers think the centaur is a good symbol for those born under this sign, because they generally love travelling, That is false. I hate travelling. Sagittarius people need plenty of freedom, because they want to experience as much of life as they can. They are unhappy when tied down to a routine, and happiest when starting off on something new. Walking is a favourite Sagittarian pastime, For me. That is true. Sagittarians also have restless, adventurous minds, and like to take up new studies. Many Sagittarians are keenly interested in philosophy and the world of ideas, and they also love to have a good time and are fun to be with. Sagittarius is a fire sign, like Aries and Leo. If you are a Sagittarius, you will probably find that as you grow older you want to travel. You should have a lively and inquiring mind, and will always be asking questions about everything. Above all, you should have great faith in yourself, Thank you. I do. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:16:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#a1c6d2b0-93c4-4fa8-8c56-8b0ccfeb787f Harmen 2006-09-26T13:16:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#5989a418-321b-45c7-841a-b6ae6cdd8242 Natally I have Neptune sextile Asc/Pluto I relate to what you said Dragon- " I put the "maybe same feeling" into more of an Alien feeling.. Even amongst the other so called "Aliens", I don't really fit. I read that this aspect give us, the posibility that it takes along time till we understand ourselfs, maybe all our life. Neptune would "Fog up" or Make it hard for us to see what we project into the world (Rising)" Kind of like a misunderstood thing at times. But maybe that is the Uranus influences too. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:03:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#5989a418-321b-45c7-841a-b6ae6cdd8242 BellaRose 2006-09-26T13:03:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#6783d2a8-f3ee-48da-93a0-79f7b91ff9d0 i don't have this natally, but currently, and for some months to come, neptune is transitting my aquarius AC/venus/mercury conjunction. i don't feel infisible at all. i feel, many days, more visible than i had intended to be. that could be uranus transiting over my sun. i have been kind of wanting to learn new things and develop certain philosophical sides of myself that many might consider "mystical". i have been struggling with my addiction to nicotine. i have been struggling with my intuition (and how much to lean on it). i have been struggling with how i approach romantic relationships and how i love myself. and like with most things, i am unable to keep them fully private. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:30:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#6783d2a8-f3ee-48da-93a0-79f7b91ff9d0 arize 2006-09-26T07:30:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#1e86cdcb-293c-443d-b2d7-4d744307110a How I get the Nept conj Asc is It for me puts a unreal-ness to the Acs, I think of both Nept and it's natural house the 12th as the place of Dreams, Another place, not of solid reality. Could be fantasy, creative thinking, physic tendencies, delusional stuff, out right craziness even. Louis- ever heard Capricorn is like a Scorpio in a suit”.. Some truth to this.. And the opposite ½ of Capricorn is that mushy intuitive “I want my mommy” ..LOL Cancer.. Whether what you were asking has to do w/ Nept 12th conj. I’m not sure either. But what you said struck a note.. Juanita- “He was anything but invisible went we first met. My eyes almost fell out of my head when I first saw him. It was the classic crowded room and I noticed him right away sitting at a table across a packed dance floor. After our first dance (thankfully he noticed me too), I knew he was my chicken in every pot :-).” Not surprising.. If you noticed him strongly, he noticed you, no drought. That’s that stuff in the other world. Attention sense. Maybe he noticed you 1st ,and got you to notice him w/o even realizing he was doing it… Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:33:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#1e86cdcb-293c-443d-b2d7-4d744307110a Dragon-of-Q 2006-09-26T04:33:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#df06b3e5-53b7-415b-aa4e-bfe52fb70d61 Hmm... either the stuff of delusion or complete anonymity... Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:45:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#df06b3e5-53b7-415b-aa4e-bfe52fb70d61 Litestorm 2006-09-26T03:45:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#a08a57ef-fb70-48da-9a2d-76089b561e58 hhmm... interesting, so its gotta be something else.. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:45:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#a08a57ef-fb70-48da-9a2d-76089b561e58 Luis - Amiable? DONT talk to me 2006-09-26T02:45:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#40abfe18-40ce-42ce-b257-4a2e34d2c61a << I have 12th house Nept conj Scorpio Asc.3 1/2* orb. . >> Wow, that's interesting, DragonWire. My boyfriend has a 12th house Neptune conjunct his Scorpio ASC. He was anything but invisible went we first met. My eyes almost fell out of my head when I first saw him. It was the classic crowded room and I noticed him right away sitting at a table across a packed dance floor. After our first dance (thankfully he noticed me too), I knew he was my chicken in every pot :-). I don't think he feels invisible. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:37:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#40abfe18-40ce-42ce-b257-4a2e34d2c61a $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-26T02:37:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#9cd9ebe0-d6a1-4ab9-944b-c000be80707b DragonWire: "Ok I just looked.5* orb..Actually makes sence" really, what do you mean? what does it make sense? "Though I'm never quite sure what gets projected" exactly! "Physical presance feeling less ...well.. Solid.." hahah, arize once pointed this one out very clearly. how saturn and neptune are opposites, and how when saturn would get things being real, neptune would come over and dissolve them and viceversa.. this could be true in any sign, "but in fucking capricorn? sounds like the beginning of a bad joke!" hahahahhaa ********************** Kate: "but there is another side to it and that is being aluring " exactly! thats where neptune-being-venus's-higher-octave thingie comes up and sort of fits in the rest of the scene. while venus is charming (although neptune rules CHARMS), i think you nailed it down perfectly with ' alluring ' . yeah, youre right. i think one can be either invisible or charming/alluring/and-remembered with this one, yet it IS difficult, especially that part where DragonWire said one would probably be trying to define (asc?) what s/he portrays to the world admist.. the foggy confusion (nep, of course).. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:04:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#9cd9ebe0-d6a1-4ab9-944b-c000be80707b Luis - Amiable? DONT talk to me 2006-09-26T02:04:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#1b3dfbc1-df2b-407a-85da-f26a917e6937 yes, I know that but there is another side to it and that is being aluring both are fun try it because if you can be unseen you can equally be noticed . Either way ten years from now, you will have ladies who you went to school say to you by name I remember you -you were here wearing that . Think of film -when we watch movies it is as if we know the person even if not -our personnas have some of that kind of thing happening-an unrealness in the realness. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 01:13:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#1b3dfbc1-df2b-407a-85da-f26a917e6937 $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-26T01:13:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#8562a436-0053-4255-84f7-fb75c3ec62e9 Ok I just looked.5* orb..Actually makes sence. I'm more on an emotional level (Water). Your more Solid substance (Earth).. Physical presance feeling less ...well.. Solid.. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:57:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#8562a436-0053-4255-84f7-fb75c3ec62e9 Dragon-of-Q 2006-09-26T00:57:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#35343182-0ff6-4bfe-bca8-43f6cb21a163 I have 12th house Nept conj Scorpio Asc.3 1/2* orb. . I put the "maybe same feeling" into more of an Alien feeling.. Even amongst the other so called "Aliens", I don't really fit. I read that this aspect give us, the posibility that it takes along time till we understand ourselfs, maybe all our life. Neptune would "Fog up" or Make it hard for us to see what we project into the world (Rising).. Is Nept. in your 1st or 12th house?,what sign? And whats the orb?, I'm curious.. Not sure this is this But I can be invisible if I want, though it takes effort. Draw energies very close and quiet. Walk by people and they don't notice you. Extend those energies outward, and I'm noticed and remembered, Though I'm never quite sure what gets projected. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:51:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#35343182-0ff6-4bfe-bca8-43f6cb21a163 Dragon-of-Q 2006-09-26T00:51:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#552cb8d7-1789-4d7c-8ea5-d605f1b78058 Has anyone had this feeling? Through most of my years as a kid, I felt this way almost every single day... and, sometimes, to the date. Its been lowering as I get older, but still. Sometimes I think that, IN FACT, it makes virtually no difference if I enter a room or not. So, has anyone (neptune conj asc people or any other aspect aspecting it) had this feeling too? Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:44:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b9a579f9-b5f1-4285-9ef2-beb74ce23d86#552cb8d7-1789-4d7c-8ea5-d605f1b78058 Luis - Amiable? DONT talk to me 2006-09-25T23:44:47Z