I may have asked this before, but I am going to ask it again....has anyone ever heard of "Uranian Astrology?"......If so I would like to hear about it b/c it sounds cool........I only heard about about after researching the meridian house system........Happy New Year......Breath
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Uranian astrology
Sun, January 1, 2006 - 11:27 AMUranian astrology probably is a good way to describe what I do and refers to an approach to horoscope interpretation that bucks convention and holds as its guiding principle the autonomy of each individual. Uranian astrology asserts that each person is already free, though they may not be awake to that fact and that we are all responsible for our own decisions. And so it is not a "spoon-feeding" kind of astrology of pat answers but more like an approach that provokes questions and stirs, or agitates, a person's free will. -
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Sun, January 1, 2006 - 2:05 PMthanks sherpa..........do you use the meridian house system for this? just wondering b/c i recently came across the house system and found it to be interesting as it changes the house placements for a few of my inner and outer planets......most importantly it changes the position of my saturn, which going through my saturn return it's nice to know which house energy i am dealing with........peace........breath -
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Sun, January 1, 2006 - 2:26 PMI use several different house systems depending on the location of the chart being made. if the person is born above the arctic circle, for example, i will use Porphory so that the houses don't come out so lop-sided. usually, i flip back and forth between Placidous and Koch though I prefer Koch for what I intuitively sense as a more "realisitic" system than the more "idealistic"Placidous; again, this is validated by a feeling rather than by any measure of science. -
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Sun, January 1, 2006 - 6:06 PMUranian Astrology has different definitions, depending upon who you speak with. However, there is a traditional use of the term. First, a little background:
In the 1920's, the Hamburg School of Astrology began promoting the techniques of astrologer Alfred Witte. These were true breaks with traditional astrology. Witte stressed midpoints between two planets as being extremely significant. He also published tables of several hypothetical planets, which he called Transneptunians. These are: Cupido, Hades, Zeus, Kronos, Apollon, Admetos, Vulkanus and Poseidon. While no one has actually seen these bodies, many astrologers began to use them claiming they were as powerful as the known planets. (Some current astrologers are studying these bodies anew, trying to see if they relate to any of the ACTUAL Transneptunian bodies that have been discovered.) In the next few years, these astrologers began calling their procedures Uranian techniques. And then, they encouraged people to do away with astrological houses altogether, and also the easy aspects. They stressed the conjunction (0-15°), opposition (180°), square (90°), semi-square (45°), and sesqui-quadrate (135°), as well as all other multiples of 22.5° angles.
In the early 1940's, Reinhold Ebertin (one of Alfred Witte's students) founded the School of Cosmobiology, further promoting the above techniques, and published a major textbook, which in English is called "Combination of Stellar Influences". Ebertin also promotes another factor, mentioned by Witte but not stressed in early teachings, called the Aries Point. The point, zero degrees of Aries, is actually interpreted as a significant point, just as powerful a factor as the planets themselves.
In the late 1950's, early 1960's, a book furthering the promotion of these techniques was published by Hans Niggemann entitled "The Key to Uranian Astrology". It was this book which brought the words "Uranian Astrology" to the attention of the public.
Since that time, some other astrologers have used the term Uranian Astrology to mean other things. For example, some have considered themselves Uranian Astrologers because they practice an astrology that centers on principles of the planet Uranus....helping people to break free from things that keep them from unfolding their true potential, for one thing. And I like the way Sherpa describes himself as a Uranian Astrologer.
If you are interested in exploring more of the actual Uranian School of astrology, there is a very in-depth website run by THE URANIAN INSTITUTE with numerous articles on Uranian Astrology. The URL is finblake.home.mindspring.com/Ura....htm -
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Sun, January 1, 2006 - 6:54 PMthank you zane for explaining uranian astrology.......peace.....breath
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Thu, October 4, 2007 - 4:17 AMis it a common practice to use other asects like trine and quintiles with TNOs
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Re: has anyone ever heard of uranian astrology?
Thu, October 4, 2007 - 6:17 AMCheck out Gary Christen- he just did a peer group at our astrologer's retreat (I didn't take that one since I don't know Uranian) but he's well known in the field. He also wrote a major astrology software package.
www.professional-astrology.org/me...07/
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Thu, October 4, 2007 - 7:07 AMLike Midpoints -
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Mon, October 29, 2007 - 11:57 PMWhat is now Uranian Astrology is based on the work of Alfred Witte, which changed rapidly while he was still alive, and which has changed a lot since his death (in 1941). His objective was to sort the nonsense out of astrology (like Kepler and Gauquelin wanted to do) and just use what really works, and as a result he did lots of daily practical research.
He was hounded by the Gestapo in Nazi Germany, and committed suicide when, some claim, he knew he was about to be arrested, and maybe the astrology told him what would come after that, or maybe he knew what happened to other people arrested by the Nazis.
His work was continued by one of his most enthusiastic students, Ludwig Rudolph, who published Witte's ideas, who was also harassed by the Nazis, and who ended up in a concentration camp, which he lived through and survived.
While Rudolph was in the concentration camp, Reinhold Ebertin took the work, cut out the extra planets that the Nazis didn't like (Witte had been harassed for proposing extra planets), and presented what was left as Cosmobiology, first popularized in the Nazi era.
Surprise! Rudolph survived the concentration camp until after the Nazis were defeated, and when after he was released and free again, he challenged Ebertin to acknowledge where his methods (including the 90-degree dial Uranian is famous for) came from, and a law suit followed.
The older forms of Uranian astrology used house systems much more, and they were gradually abandoned by the German astrologers who did the hard-core research... in favor of just midpoints and 16th harmonic aspects (which include conjunctions, squares, oppositions, semisquares and sesquisquares/quadrates as well as 22.5 degrees and its multiples. Later on, French astrologer Michel Gauquelin, while not a Uranian astrology, also hinted that the houses had problems. These were astrological scientists, who put the methods to the test, to weed out the fuzzy stuff.
A most recent, pragmatic, research-focused Uranian astrologer is Ruth Brummund, now in her 80s but still sorting the silliness and gray areas out of astrology.
Backtracking, Hans Niggemann, long popular in the USA, brought the older Uranian materials to the USA, translated some of the German texts, and popularized the Uranian house systems. Much of his translated material was actually written in German by Hermann Lefelt and Ilse Schnitzler and published in Germany in the 1940s and 1950s. While Americans were using emulating the Niggemann translations years later, the Germans kept doing more and more research, and refining the system. Ruth Brummund was one of the leaders in doing this.
For more information you can visit the Uranian Institute website, where there are lessons on how to do Uranian Astrology as the more recent research- and scientifically-oriented Uranian astrologers do it. -
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Re: has anyone ever heard of uranian astrology?
Tue, October 30, 2007 - 8:01 AMInteresting...
I know that astrology didn't interest me a whole heck of a lot until I learned about midpoints.
Up until then I would just browse daily astrology readings from different astrologers and say no no yes no no yes yes wow those two just totally contradicted each other!
I tried to figure out how that could be and I found that it is not just based on sun signs and different astrologers might be making their predictions off of different aspects and such. That was mildly interesting but nothing worth really getting into imo at the time.
But for some reason midpoints really got me interested. It is what made me want to join tribe. When I sit back and observe stuff then look at a chart...it seems like it is the midpoints that explain what I saw in the person more than anything else. That and t-squares and conjunctions which btw are just unique midpoint structures.
In fact, many of the formations like grand crosses and kites and t-squares and grand trines are also interesting midpoint structures.
I do think that house systems make a lot of sense, though actually. Especially H12 and the ascendant and especially with synastry.
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