http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#078eb17b-86fd-4430-acd8-38cf97c79107 No it is not the same, read my 1st post plz. You can check it yourself if you dont believe me. _______________________________________________________ Do you mean in general or with certain house systems they don't work? _______________________________________________________ No, in this particular chart. ASC/DSC and its rulers were not activated at all (I used all the mentioned house systems) , according to Placidus system the guy has MC and ASC both at 11°0'Sco so this makes sense. When he got married and had a kid MC /IC was not triggered >> 4th and 5th house cusps and planets were! MC/IC worked for other events. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:57:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#078eb17b-86fd-4430-acd8-38cf97c79107 Gogolesque 2009-07-01T13:57:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#9e04f347-d8e2-44a3-ad9c-4f467e668c77 "in one word, Placidus rules, lol " Fair enough. I tend to use Koch or Placidus myself, but am also comfortable with Equal. "I have looked at progressed aspects to the angles/planets and I can say ASC/DSC line does not work at all, MC/IC works " Do you mean in general or with certain house systems they don't work? Surely the Asc is the same regardless of house system? Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:34:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#9e04f347-d8e2-44a3-ad9c-4f467e668c77 Paul 2009-07-01T13:34:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#d70d49ab-fc78-4703-86c3-77481bd458cc well the very idea of equal houses for in everyone's chart seems off to me but what's more important when you do a rectification or just look for aspects (solar arc, progression or transits) for the significant events, sometimes house rules and the angles are not activated but house cusps are, equal does not work in such cases at all (I mean nothing is activated!) so I played with different house systems and this is what I have: I have looked at progressed aspects to the angles/planets and I can say ASC/DSC line does not work at all, MC/IC works I checked Koch, Equal from ASC (the one they have on astro.com) Equal from MC, Regimontanus and Placidus. Hands down Placidus worked for all the events: when he got married and then his son was born >> 4,5 house rulers and cusps were activated. The other house systems did not show most of the events I had to check. I also checked solar returns for those years >> Placidus worked again. in one word, Placidus rules, lol Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:34:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#d70d49ab-fc78-4703-86c3-77481bd458cc Gogolesque 2009-07-01T12:34:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#5d233176-361c-4e84-afba-561876edd169 The closer you get to the poles the more bizarre the houses will be in house systems like Porphyry and Placidus etc. and I believe this person was born within the Arctic Circle? Equal house is arguably the oldest house system ever used. What doesn't make sense with you about it? btw chart is here: http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/ec8/bc8/ec8bc831-90d7-4d6c-9c13-b73dd2058b76 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:34:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#5d233176-361c-4e84-afba-561876edd169 Paul 2009-07-01T09:34:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#ae6718fc-c088-44b1-9f35-f93c565aee83 I posted the chart in my pics, so you can see it now. Somehow, I dont want to use equal, it does not make much sense to me : / Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:20:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#ae6718fc-c088-44b1-9f35-f93c565aee83 Gogolesque 2009-07-01T09:20:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#c1afe272-dd95-4d83-aeb3-99a331a415f5 The ascendant should be the same regardless of house system so something has gone wrong somewhere if the ascendants are different! Bare in mind you can always use equal house if you want to! Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:11:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#c1afe272-dd95-4d83-aeb3-99a331a415f5 Paul 2009-07-01T09:11:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#6249ca7d-a708-449e-82ad-bc7b8467701b Gogo Can you post up a pic please? Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:09:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#6249ca7d-a708-449e-82ad-bc7b8467701b Paul 2009-07-01T09:09:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#812bd446-f18d-408c-a173-d61bda26b396 my brother's friend asked me to do a reading for him and when I saw his chart I thought there was something wrong with my eyes! lol I have never seen anything like this! hmm I guess it has something to do with the lattitude cozz he was born in the Far East: they have polar lights September to April and polar night in June-midAugust omg, how am I going to read his chart if each house system gives him different ASC??? : 0 if I try Placidus: the guy has ASC conj MC exactly ASC 11°0'Sco MC 11° 0'Sco and a huge 2H: starts in Pisces ends in Aries if I try Koch: he has MC 11°0'Sco 11H 11°40'Sco 12H 23°53'Sco ASC 29°23'Sco 2H 3°29'Sag 3H 3°37'Sag >>> no 2nd house!! his 3rd house starts in Sag and ends in Taurus! if I use Porphyry he has: MC 11°0'Sco 11H 11°08'Sco 12H 23°15'Sco ASC 29°23'Sco 2H 23°15 Cap 3H 17°08 Pis astro.com sets Porphyry house system (which I never used before) by default and I cannot change it to, say, Placidus or Koch...so my question is how do I interpret this chart? LOL, should I use Porphyry? Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:07:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b1ad5046-c4e9-455b-b38f-ac3272fabc4e#812bd446-f18d-408c-a173-d61bda26b396 Gogolesque 2009-07-01T08:07:45Z