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North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

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This would mean the Venus person pulls the North Node person towards their destiny, a higher-expression of themselves. But what does the Venus person get out of all this? It seems like it's all for the benefit of the North Node person.
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    Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:06 PM
    I have experience with this one! Not long ago I finally broke off contact with someone whose NN conjuncts my 12th house Venus, same degree even (also conj my Pluto and Mars). I can't figure out why I'm still angry.... I hate him so much, and myself for letting myself get sucked into his world.

    I'm still not sure what I've gotten out of it, besides learning some major red flags of toxicity to look out for in future relationships. I learned a LOT about boundaries... a "lesson" that was long overdue.

    It's weird how much I hate him. Sometimes just the idea that he's alive somewhere on this planet being the person that he is makes my skin want to crawl. I was very deceived and taken advantage of in that relationship.
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      Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:16 PM
      Just noticed my current boyfriend has NN conjunction with me somewhat. Does 8 degrees count as a conjunction? Heh... if it does, I can tell you I'm getting a lot of the relationship. Healing love, encouragement to be myself and a strengthening sense of confidence, inspiration to be the best person I can be....

      I'm kind of nervous now that it's too much of a karmic relationship. Goddammit! Not this one, PLEASE not this one... those tend to... end.
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        Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:42 PM
        "Does 8 degrees count as a conjunction? >

        certainly not with the nodal axis.
        however, conjunction or opposition merely by sign says a lot in itself.
        stretch an 8* orb (even between 2 planets) across a sign cusp and there's nothing there to talk about.
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    Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:28 PM
    Venus and Mars aspects to anything basically denotes attraction (does not matter if it's physical or sexual or mental). I would look at this aspect if I want to see if two people can be attracted to each other.

    Moon and Saturn give you an idea of what works out in the long run. Moon denotes if you feel comfortable around the other person to be able to live together, for instance. It is important for moon signs to be compatible because the moon = mood and mood fluctuates very easily.

    Saturn is the karmic glue that knuckles the two down in working issues out. I would consider moon and Saturn aspects to North Nodes (destiny, karma, long-term glue coupled with nurturing and a common comfort level).

    So Saturn and moon = long term relationships
    Mars and Venus = sex and attraction
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      Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:32 PM
      well, the attraction is definitely there on both sides...

      I don't want to think about Saturn influences... I think that is partly my problem, I am worried a.) that this will turn into a long-term relationship and I will feel trapped in it, unable to grow or b.) something will happen to end it...

      both seem scary! I think 6th house means that he makes me focus on whether or not I want to become healthier. Not consciously, but unconsciously he's scooting me in that direction (and maybe I scoot him that way too)... but the 6th house is a very annoying, irritating house and North Node is an uncomfortable place to have activated all the time.
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        Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:45 PM
        Quite the contrary; Saturn FORCES you to grow outside of your comfort level. Long term relationships are just one of the more consistent ways to get that done, particularly for synastries who have a lot of 7th house influences.
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        Sun, February 28, 2010 - 7:46 PM
        6yj house involves more than physical health. it's about improving/optimizing/perfecting --across the board.
        it's like virgo stuff . . . all tidy and kinda hot, if you ask me.
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          Sun, February 28, 2010 - 11:30 PM
          Hi Gabby,
          I haven't had any North Node relationships, but 2 South Node one's where the Leo Sun's conjunct the South Node.

          I did have an exact Venus - North Node conjunction with my Mother in my 6th house. It would have been in her 7th. Mum certainly had a powerful affect on me. But that was a Paternal relationship. I always knew if I was in trouble over something that I could turn to her.

          I also have a Venus Conjunction with the North Node with my Mother's Great Aunt.
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        Mon, March 1, 2010 - 4:09 PM
        "I don't want to think about Saturn influences... I think that is partly my problem, I am worried a.) that this will turn into a long-term relationship and I will feel trapped in it, unable to grow or b.) something will happen to end it... "


        I can relate to this statement a lot. Just take it one day at a time and don't focus on the "what ifs." You are never trapped into a relationship, since you have an option to leave (unless they hold you captive in a dungeon). LOL The fear of it ending is something I have experienced, but all relationships eventually end somehow. Fear of what might happen only stops you from going after what may or may not be a good thing. Regret is much worse than fear, in my opinion. If you embrace my fears it often makes you feel more alive.
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          Mon, March 1, 2010 - 4:10 PM
          *your
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            Tue, March 2, 2010 - 12:00 AM
            Yeah... I know... was just feeling some major conflicting emotions and fear of commitment. :P It's too soon to even be fearing commitment, but I'm weird and will always find something to worry about.

            I was also physically sick all last week (literally in the 6th house), and so anything remotely associated with 6th house was making me feel even sicker. Including his Venus! :P
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          Tue, March 2, 2010 - 12:52 AM
          Linda Goodman the late Astrologer wrote about strong Saturn Aspects regarding Synastry.

          She said it was practically impossible to break the connection. There can be a lot of break up's, and getting back together.

          Saturn aspects, really make you work for it.
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            Tue, March 2, 2010 - 3:41 AM
            >>Saturn aspects, really make you work for it. <<

            i feel like i have a relatively "easy" natal saturn placement that finds pay back in challenging saturn synastries and composites.
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              Tue, March 2, 2010 - 3:49 AM
              Stevo

              I wonder with your pisces planets being disposited by Jupiter (and Neptune too obviously) and Mars on the ascendant, if you don't resonate with the Jupiter side of you Jupiter Saturn opposition. In this scenario 'other people' might play the part of Saturn? Saturn itself is being 'flanked' in some ways by both your Pisces' dispositors, opposition Jupiter and approaching conjunction with Neptune. I wonder if other people play the role of saturn, especially seeing as your Desc ruler is disposited by Saturn (yes and uranus too). If you want to follow Uranus then it's disposited by the Moon which is conjunct venus which is disposited by ...
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                Tue, March 2, 2010 - 3:54 AM
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                I wonder, with your pisces planets being disposited by Jupiter (and Neptune too obviously) and Mars on the ascendant, if you don't resonate with the Jupiter [(IN ARIES)] side of you[R] Jupiter Saturn opposition....
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                  Tue, March 2, 2010 - 4:40 AM
                  i appreciate the outline of dispositions (if that's a legal term)
                  i think that jupiter plays an important part in the "deferral" or "disposal" of saturn dramas in my natal chart and, perhaps in line with the dispositor-ships you noted, diverts or expresses those dramas through relationships.
                  left to my own devices, jupiter (in aries) seems to offer a buoyant/optimistic counter-balance to the saturn ...but jupiter also seems tasked to mitigate the other two points on my cardinal cross, the uranus/chiron opp --and furthermore, nudge/shake the fixed aquarius (moon/venus) and scorpio (mars) forces.
                  I don't typically relate relate to the jupiter rulership of pisces (perhaps) because natal jupiter is in ARIES . . . it may be helping me keep my lazy-arsed pisces parts afloat.
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                    Re: North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

                    Tue, March 2, 2010 - 4:54 AM
                    Yeah I'm a big fan of dual rulership admittedly. I get uncomfortable using things like Chiron in major aspect patterns, it seems to work and hold water for some and for others it doesn't which makes me think there's something else going on or something I'm missing!
                    Personally I'd see that aspect pattern as a T-Square which involve Saturn Jupiter opposition and both square Uranus. Check the dispositors though - Mars, Venus and the Moon - the planets of relationship. All on the cusp of the 6th, 12th and 9th - something very service oriented there then. My guess is that relationships are big focus in your life. If you go back to what I was saying about the dispositors then you've got the dispositors of the sun and moon at play here as well which is also a big 'mommy and daddy' or even 'man and woman' kind of thing going on, backed up by the aries-libra-cancer kind of drama. Uranus in Cancer is the apex and seems to suggest that there may be some kind of compromise issue throughout your life (aries and libra drama) working out through perhaps unusual children or something like that? I mean I'm being super general about it all, but just thought it was interesting how the dispositors all appear involved in this aspect pattern. Especially if you're saying that in synastry or composite, Saturn seems to play a role.
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                      Tue, March 2, 2010 - 5:42 AM
                      i probably wouldn't give chiron the time of day if it wasn't in such tight opposition to uranus.
                      i still don't have a clear meaning assigned, though Willow gave me an excellent reading of it here a few years ago.

                      i sorta follow the dispositor theory, and definitely concur with the conclusions you drew . . . more than just generally.

                      My aries astrologer went down those same or similar paths with me just a couple of weeks ago --relative to either my solar or saturn return.
                      i suppose that sun/n.node in the 4th House compliments or bolsters the cancer expression of uranus as well.

                      bringing the nodes back into it: my n.node is conjunct the asc and saturn of the steve/debra chart.
                      Have you been neglecting your saturn stevo? here, try this on for size, lol.
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    Tue, March 2, 2010 - 4:22 PM
    North Node Aspects to Venus in Synastry:

    “This would mean the Venus person pulls the North Node person towards their destiny, a higher-expression of themselves. But what does the Venus person get out of all this? It seems like it's all for the benefit of the North Node person. "

    I met two men at a Thanksgiving dinner party, one whose Sag ASC/Sun/Venus/Neptune/NNode is on my ASC/NNode. His Venus/NNode is 2 degrees from my NNode, and he’s 19 years younger and single. I can’t date someone that much younger than me, but we’re definitely friends. My Venus is on the other guy’s Cancer NNode exact. He’s 11 years older - and married. I could be wrong, but I think that if he were single we’d probably date. So that’s my personal experience with Venus/NNode – not much – but I can see the natural attraction and joy that it brings.

    Jan Spiller has a book, "Cosmic Love," and she gives descriptions of what it's like for the Venus person and the NNode person. She says that basically chances are the Venus person will fall in love with the NNode person, like it or not. For the NNode person, the Venus person will increase their feeling of self-worth. Both will possibly bring the other luck in love and money. This seems plausible to me, though I think other aspects made to Venus/NNode will modify the experience as will the sign/house.

    With his Venus on your H6 NNode, does he happily serve you, like to cook for you, help you when you’re ill, rescue you when you need help, like to take you out for meals, help you find work, things like that?

    Michelle
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      Fri, March 5, 2010 - 12:03 AM
      "With his Venus on your H6 NNode, does he happily serve you, like to cook for you, help you when you’re ill, rescue you when you need help, like to take you out for meals, help you find work, things like that?"

      I don't really know yet... we haven't gotten beyond hanging out in group social situations. Since we're part of a big group of friends, it would be weird to move toward an "official" date, so somehow some one-on-one socializing will have to happen, but I don't know how. I just trust that it *will* happen if it *should* happen.

      The other stuff makes sense though... that as the Venus person he's more or less attracted, but from my end I have to make the decision about whether or not this is something I want to go for. He is more definite, I think. He's earthy and slow-moving.
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        Re: North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

        Fri, March 5, 2010 - 12:06 AM
        I mean, I remember the very first time we met each other (I'm pretty sure it was the first time) at his friend/roommate's birthday party 2 years ago. I never really spoke to him (it was a very crowded party) but I could tell even at that first meeting that he was attracted to me... and he didn't even know anything about me.

        Since then we have both had attractions to other people, but we have also slowly learned more about each other, piece by piece.
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          Fri, March 5, 2010 - 12:08 AM
          Aw, that's sweet - remembering your first meeting. I rarely remember that stuff unless it's important. Well, I like him, based on horary and his chart. LOL
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            Fri, March 5, 2010 - 12:50 AM
            thank you! Yeah, I think you would appreciate his intellect (all the science he's into) and his Capricorn-ness. He's also just very kind. You would probably both like each other.
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              Fri, March 5, 2010 - 3:16 AM
              hmmm. what about mercury?

              I have met an amazing man who is 20+ years older. Very attracted to each other.

              His mercury sits directly on my north node. as in exact degree.

              Communication is wonderful between us.. but is that all..? Does that measn that communicatively he is some sort of guru?

              Is his advice what I should listen to?

              hmmmm
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                Fri, March 5, 2010 - 3:32 AM
                oh gawd.. I just realised I am an astrology addict.

                I keep looking for answers/advice/meaning in astrology.

                Maybe part of the fun is actually living and not putting any particular sway on the way that things are with particular people.

                *stepping away from the keyboard*

                :)
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              Re: North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

              Fri, March 5, 2010 - 6:47 PM
              Gabby - I didn't mean for me, but for you! LOL He seems like a better person than your last love interests via how he was represented in the horary. The others where Saturn I think, and Mars, and not in a good way. I remember that one 8th house horary, I think the first horary you asked me, and the guy was Mars and I think debilitated, and you were in the 8th. Mercury as this guy, with essential strength too in Aqu, is a much more gentle influence.
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                Re: North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

                Fri, March 5, 2010 - 11:20 PM
                I know not for you, I'm just saying that as people you would probably like each other. :P

                Yes, that first guy was not right for me at the time... we were both dealing with too much emotional stuff to be right or ready for each other (and maybe we really never would be, I don't know). Lot of intensity, but not right.
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                  Sat, March 6, 2010 - 12:44 PM
                  Wow so I checked my synastry chart to my husband and his n.node conjuncts my Venus. My Venus is in his 7th and his node is in my 11th house. So does my love that I give him make him feel like it's destiny and he can give me insight into my hopes and dreams?
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                    Re: North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

                    Sat, March 6, 2010 - 12:50 PM
                    Also interesting my Saturn trines his Venus but his Saturn squares my Venus. So does this mean I know how to responsibly and maturely love him but he had a hard time commiting to my love?
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        Re: North Node aspects to Venus in synastry

        Fri, March 5, 2010 - 12:08 AM
        and yes, definitely feel more self-worth around him...
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          Sat, March 6, 2010 - 1:50 PM
          Hmm...

          My good friend has his NN sextile my Venus and he's always saying how I am making him feel better about himself. His moon is also conjunct my Venus and Mars, however. ::shrugs::

          Gabby,

          I say sometimes you gotta put the astro aside and just say f*ck it and take a chance. I do it all the time, too. I use astro for answers to a situation before even stepping into the situation. But some of those situations are what life's about. Not to sound like a Nike commercial, but if you like the guy: just do it. If it goes good, then good. If it goes bad, then hey you live and you learn. That's what living is all about.

          Good luck!
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            Sat, March 6, 2010 - 2:11 PM
            My NN was conjunct my ex boyfriend's Venus, and my last obsession's NN trined my Venus/Mars (as is my best friend's); my NN conjunct his Mars. I wouldn't say my ex made me feel better about myself, but he wasn't abusive towards me.

            Supposedly the conjunction, sextile or trine between north node and Venus is a romantic attraction, and feelings of pleasure, etc. in their company.

            The south node one is interesting, via cafeastrology (lots of contact both ways in the last obsession):

            "Venus conjunct other person's South Node (opposite other person's North Node), or square the other person's Nodes
            A feeling of instant affection is likely between the two of you. A powerful feeling of needing to be with one another is present, although over time, difficulties and challenges arise that could pull you apart. There may be a time when one or both of you feels that they have "outgrown" the relationship in some way, or that the other person is holding them back--and this is generally felt by the Node person. This combination is sometimes considered an aspect of star-crossed lovers."
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              Sat, March 6, 2010 - 10:35 PM
              "Venus conjunct other person's South Node (opposite other person's North Node), or square the other person's Nodes
              A feeling of instant affection is likely between the two of you. A powerful feeling of needing to be with one another is present, although over time, difficulties and challenges arise that could pull you apart. There may be a time when one or both of you feels that they have "outgrown" the relationship in some way, or that the other person is holding them back--and this is generally felt by the Node person. This combination is sometimes considered an aspect of star-crossed lovers."

              ^ Indeed, that describes me and my ex-husband scarily well. His SN conjuncted my Venus, but we both ended up feeling held back by the other. However when we had the separation talk, it was me that felt there would be no going back, that divorce was inevitable, while he (node) was hoping we'd come back together. So out of the 2 of us it was me, the Venus, that felt I'd truly outgrown the relationship.
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                Sun, March 14, 2010 - 5:33 AM
                my last obsession had his North Node AND Mars conjunct my Venus..imagine that. I really don't know for sure if he liked me or not, but I could tell he definitely wasn't indifferent to me...

                However, in light of recent discoveries regarding the association of "Rahu"(the NN) with "insatiability", I'm kinda glad I got over him. Those light blue puddy cat, Jack Nicholson-like eyes never made me feel safe around him. He did seem wonderfully pervy, though.."sigh" LOL

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