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"God is consciousness and the fusion into action and manifestation, the potential for all that is, out of ....itself -
i.e. dIVINE masterbastion into Love" -Dog Star
"From Pisces to Aries and then all over again, round and round" -Dog Star
KMT Ontology and Cosmogenesis
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The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question! (Consciousness is that–which–creates–itself."
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Beginnings (Pic of Nwn -dIVINE orgasm)
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KMT
It is written that this part of the cosmos that we know of, this universe, this galaxy, this solar system, and this sun structured itself over 21 billion years ago. Billions and billions of years of jet blackness, dark black matter, dark black energy, and black holes then came light and life.
There was a time when only blackness prevailed in everything and in all things. In the beginning all was black. There was no universe but there was dark black energy, the immortal unity and struggle of female/male matter and spirit, pure energy and impulse, that created itself out of itself. Blackness and darkness led to light---not the other way around.
In a majestic struggle between matter and anti-matter bonded energy eventually formed elementary particles, elements-stars-planets-solar systems-galaxies-complete universes. These solar organisms bonded together with gravitational forces which formed solar systems and clusters of galaxies. This gravitational soup became the cosmic webbing of the infant universe which continually expanded-changed-developed.
From this universe came our galaxy, then our solar system. Within this solar system formed a sun-nine planets-moons-asteroids-comets with all being electro-magnetically held together by precisely balanced gravitational attraction and repulsion. Constantly in motion, having no days off, moving at colossal speeds stars are suns with their own rings of planets revolve on their axis and turn with the entire galaxy as it turns on its own axis.
Each star---its own universe on fire---is a blazing fiery solar hurricane. Its entire surface is in a state of bubbling, erupting, burning, hot agitation with colossal fiery heat waves passing over the turbulent stars burning hot surface. Galactic fire streams shot out as gigantic streams of internal heat, pulsating, throbbing, illuminating, pouring forth into space in the form of radiation---giving live to planets and their moons. Physical gravitational fields connect the particles allowing them to interact and thus exist.
Without this nothing would connect the stars in the galaxies or the substance itself within the starts and planets. There would be no solar systems, stars, or planets, without electromagnetic fields. Nothing would connect electrons and protons in atoms into molecules and molecules into tissue. From elementary particles to nucleus from nuclei and electrons there came atoms from atoms came molecules from molecules and their aggregates gaseous-liquid-solid bodies formed bodies that make up stars and their satellites, the planets and their satellites.
Twenty-one billion years of matter and antimatter flowing down the majestic cosmic ladder from universes to super clusters, galaxy clusters, galaxies, star clusters, quasars, pulsars, stars, solar systems, planets, other celestial bodies to molecular complexes, crystals, molecules, atoms, elementary nuclear particles, photons, force fields, quantum levels, to sub-quantum elements. These solar organisms bonded together with gravitational forces, which formed solar systems and clusters of galaxies.
This gravitational soup became the cosmic webbing of the infant universe, which continually expanded, changed, developed. This process resulted from explosions of anti-matter and matter which produced the bonded energy which eventually formed elements, stars, planets, solar systems, galaxies, and complete universes. The materials of these solar organism such as stars, gas, energy particles, cosmic debris, planets, asteroids, comets, nebulae, black holes, etc., are bonded together by gravitational forces which form solar systems and clusters of galaxies which are continually expanding, moving, changing.
In sum, from this universe came our galaxy. Then our solar system. Within this solar system formed a sun, nine planets-moons-asteroids-comets with all being electro-magnetically held together by precisely balanced gravitational attraction and repulsion. This system was and is constantly in motion, having no days off. It moves at colossal speeds.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 10:15 AM
God is a Black woman ...(an analogy)
there is no space and time, so no light can enter, and gives birth to the world and beyond and everything in it
this is the Matrix - ma ma ;-P
There does not have to be a start point or a creation point. Imagine something that always was, and always will be. You have heard the circle analogy before, no start or end point, or the mobius strip, anything which curves back into itself is immortal! That is the self-reflexive nature of consciousness itself.
Well, we are trying to explain something which has never been created, to those who believe there MUST be a start point to something. And that is true, there must be a start point to something. Consciousness is not a thing. A thing is that which is created from consciousness –– a result of thought.
Consciousness is that–which–creates–itself.
This is the ultimate answer to the ultimate question!
dIVINE'S a witness through your minds eye and intelligence - God is looking through your eyes, your heart, your soul, and is discerning all your factors, your pain, your tears, your judgments, your joy... this is how we are all connected...through this conscious awareness -
This is why its important to share Love, remember this is a very smart and intelligence force who designed you and everything in the world -
IDT is one way of seeing and proving this Intelligence, by the delicate and intricate parts of DNA, as cute as a bugs ear (smiles)
Thought is an energy, it creates the universe and even down to your DNA ...Nothing does Exist and Creates -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:00 PMThe "theory that darkness + darkness = light is utter nonsense.
Scientist know that this "dark matter" is not actually dark, but is invisible. It was just a term that they used. And it is not composed of the familiar electrons, neutrons and protons.
Light is greatly more powerful than darkness. Darkness flees away in the presence of light. Go into a dark room and turn on a light switch and you will never see yourself overtaken by darkness, the darkness leaves, there is no place for it.
There must initially be a spark for something to happen. And it must be the correct mixture. I have never seen the seas catch fire and create light by themselves.
You have spoken of gravity and electromagnetism that seems to hold everything together, but you have failed to mention that the nucleus of an atom will fall apart if it were just held together by the electromagnetic charge. What actually holds them together is what scientiest have termed "The Stronger Force". webs.morningside.edu/slaven/...om2.html also webs.morningside.edu/slaven/...ro1.html
God is a Spirit....(not an analogy) and He is what holds everything together. He is not subject to time, nor space, as He is also seperate yet within our space - time continuim. It was created for us. There is a power which is able to create something from nothing. To speak it into existance by the power of His Word. A much higher force than your reality box may choose to perceive. Mixed with faith, and knowing, it manifests in reality. (You might study Neptune sextile or trine Saturn to get a taste. Mix some Jupiter in there too while your at it)
In the midst darkness a 2 million candelight flashlight might appear as a great light, but it is nonexistant, and all darkness leaves when you have beheld the shining light of the Son.
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:27 PM
You have gotten yourself into quite a conundrum!
Spirit is an analogy for god, but thats not all god is - spirit comes from consciousness
"Dark matter" is not a rare or insignificant ingredient, but makes up at least 90% of the mass in the universe.
don't think it can't snuff out the suns or your spirit
I guess you could say space but actually here there is no space nor time nor light, but its dark with light there is a vibration
much like what we would call the night sky yet without stars or a reflective moon, which is dark, but imagine no light at all - it's dark or Black
Black is not the absence of light but the Absorption of light.
Black can be defined as the visual impression experienced in directions from which no visible light en.wikipedia.org/
Dark Matter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
A major discovery in astrophysics in the late 1990s was the finding from type Ia supernovae redshift-luminosity observations that the expansion of the universe is accelerating. This led to the concept of dark energy, which is in effect a resurrection of Einstein's cosmological constant.
(The universe now appears to consist of about 70 percent dark energy, 25 percent dark matter and five percent ordinary matter.)
The Big Bang Created out of Blackness
The cosmological value of this is resolve any anomalies which presently exist in our understanding of the universe. To have this sort of primordial "dark matter" present before the Big Bang would indicate that the Big Bang (ENERGY) was created out of a certain percentage of this primordial "dark matter," but not all of it was "converted" to luminous matter. Thus we still have much of this primordial "dark matter" around. -
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:36 PM
nuclear fusion is a process
The nucleus of an atom is the very dense region consisting of protons and neutrons.
It is accompanied by the release or *absorption of energy (Tao)
proton a subatomic particle with an electric charge
Spirit - Ra is the Egyptian equivalent of life-force, chi, kundalini, prana, shekinah and salaat.
Spirit comes from that nothingness
Ra is not the Sun god. Ra is the energy of life and the Sun and glyph symbolized the Ra energy. —supports all life on Earth and Life
Something I posted about divinity in the past that relates to Khemetic divinity.
When you are dreaming and meditating you are in a realm where you are creating, acting as the creator. You think you have no control. But in your dreams and meditations you can fly correct. Go any place in this world? You question nothing? Right? This is you, your god self.
When you wake up you create a reality based on your meditation (Darkness). You manifest this into creation (Consciousness). Reality is not even that real. It is RE - Ality. Something you already created in another realm. Something you in fact had control over.
As KMT we understand that there is a continium, cipher, a circle. You have a hand with many fingers. But you call it a hand. Many parts but one hand. Its all the same. You dont say I picked the baby up with my 10 different fingers, palm, and figernails. One in the same.
This is how the universe is. You, the plants, cats, and dogs are apart of the universe. You are the universe.
My mother is a GOD. She created me. At one time I lived in her womb and we were one being. I am now outside of her body. But guess what my DNA tells me that we one. A DNA tests can prove she is my mother. So now that I left the womb I am no longer her and she is no longer me? No, we are still the same person. I am just manifesting her light and energy in a different form. All life is energy. You may look in me and see a light brown face. But you only see a light brown face because of the heat of the energy.
Look at fire. Depending on the heat it will be blue or orange, correct? But its still the same fire? You are made of fire. But perhaps you dont even realize it. You are fire. You are Spirit - yet you are not god yet god is within you. You see matter as solid. Because it is the way the energy is manifesting. But energy all is essentially the same. The computer you are typing on is energy but is the same energy as a pencil for example. There is really no difference. You are a god. But people see your persona. Your body is the per -son (per sound) that carries the sound of your godself.
"In Ancient Egypt, the words of Ra, revealed through Tehuti became the things and creatures of this world, i.e. the words (meaning sound waves) created the forms in the universe. " (god thinks you up)
Its only a vehicle. Its not the energy that is essentially your god self. When you and if you study Kemetic religion this will be very clear to you. We are the elements earth, water, air, fire, and ether(spirit) .
The Universe is the elements earth (geb), water(nut), air(tefnut/shu), fire(ra),
You are elements earth, water, air, fire, and ether(spirit)
God is elements earth, water, air, fire, and ether(spirit)
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:42 PM
Amen epicts and corresponds to the state of God and of existence before the creation of the thingly, phenomenal world.
In the Kamitic tradition, this aspect of God was known variously as Amen, Atum, Aten, Nu, Nand Nut.
Amen
theafrican.com/Magazine/Cosmo.htm
Zero (AMEN) the Crown that sits about the Tree
Amen means “concealed”. It is the Kamitic counterpart of the term “Subjective”.
It corresponds to the essential nature of the Supreme, which is the same as the essence of Man’s inner being. It is our unmanifested, unmanifestable, unconditioned Self – That which is the ultimate source of life and consciousness. It is the unseen and unseeable that looks out into the Objective Realm of spirits, thoughts, feelings, and physical phenomena.
We must return our focus of consciousness back to it by the cessation of all thought activity. Once we have established this innermost point as our place of being – i.e., living beyond purely physical influences – we will attain to the state of Hetep.
This is a state in which we are able to fully accept all dualities that may rise into our awareness, and thus attain to a peace that cannot be disturbed by any challenge in life. In the Hindu tradition it is called Parabrahm Sarvikalpa Nirvana. This state of inner peace is the prime foundation for the functioning of the healing functions of the life-force (Ra), and is the source of all spiritual power.’
The essential state of God or of existence before creation is of an undifferentiated Potential -- the primordial mist. There are two dual principles which characterize the Amen: One is the principle of Mind, the other is the principle of Matter. The principle of Mind is itself dualized into Consciousness and Will. Consciousness represents the passive polarity, and Will the active polarity, of the same essential quality. The principle of Matter may be seen as a continuum, which may more properly be called Energy/Matter, because "matter" in the strict sense is but one extreme of that continuum, being "energy-slowed-down."
Implicit in that notion is the fact known to Western science at least since Einstein, namely that energy and matter are mutually transmutable. As reflected at Sphere 0 above the Tree, the essential quality of Mind is a state of bliss, peace, hetep, the Kamitic word for a state of unshakable inner peace. The essential quality of Matter, at Sphere 0, in the state of Amen, is that of pure Potential, which means there is as yet no motion,
[Note: The Hindu word nirvana also characterizes the state of Amen, and means, literally, "no motion" (nir = "no" + vana = "motion").] no vibration, no "things", therefore no space, and no time.
There is also no light, since light is a vibration, and there is no motion.
Mind/Matter Duality. Parenthetically, and somewhat paradoxically, the energy/matter continuum (i.e. the Matter principle) properly includes Spirit. In the grand dichotomy between Mind and Matter, Spirit falls under the category of Matter rather than of Mind. Spirit is fundamentally energy, and the medium through which Mind expresses itself. Since individuated spirits also are associated with individuated Mind (Consciousness/Will), loose usage of the term "spirit" sometimes, indeed usually, refers also to Mind.
Strictly speaking, however, spirit is energy, and thus distinct from Consciousness/Will (hence Mind) which may in various senses manipulate spirit. It follows from this schema, that the grand dichotomy here called that between Mind and Matter, could also properly have been rendered as the dichotomy between Mind and Spirit, for matter, too, as "energy-slowed-down," is but a form of spirit. But such a usage would do too much violence to the common understanding of these matters, and the usage that goes with it. In common usage, we speak of body, mind, and spirit as all being distinct, certainly to the best of the ability of our senses to perceive these distinctions.
At the same time, we use the term "spirit" as a common noun to refer to individuated "souls" that have given up the body, but which retain as an essential attribute the attribute of Consciousness/Will, or Mind. Given the potential for ambiguity, I stick with Mind/Matter as being the fundamental dichotomy, but with the clear understanding that Spirit, qua energy, falls under the category Matter. The concept of soul, in relation to that of spirit, is a tricky one, and will be addressed later on, in the context where it is most easily explained.
The peace of hetep is an "inner" peace, because it is a state that is considered still to lie somewhere within Man. It is not to be found in the material (energy/matter) principle of the universe, rather in the mind principle. Therefore it lies within. It is an aspect of existence that is inherently indivisible: when you get to "it," there is nowhere further to "go."
Democritus imperfectly understood this Kamitic concept of "Atum," and sought to apply it to matter. It is from this misconception that Western science found its way to the notion of the atom, as being the smallest indivisible particle of a substance. No sooner was the atom discovered, however, it turned out that it contained yet smaller constituent particles of stuff. There is apparently no end to the proliferation of yet smaller sub-atomic particles. Kamitic spiritual science confidently predicts that the fundamental building block -- in a delicious irony of metaphor -- of matter, is not matter at all, but the energy polarity of the energy/matter principle.
The wave/particle duality of photons, and of sub-atomic particles, is a manifestation of the energy/matter principle, namely that energy and matter are mutually transmutable. Be that as it may, the state of hetep, in terms of the mind aspect of Being, is the ultimate state of pure inner peace. In terms of the matter aspect of Being, it is the ultimate state of pure, quiescent, energy-as-potential. Both, together -- quiescent mind, and quiescent matter (energy, really) -- constitute the Kamitic concept of the Creator before creation.
This is Amen, and the Source from which all comes. It is also, in the Kamitic spiritual science, the true nature of the hidden God within, which is essentially unconditioned, and which cannot be upset by externals. It is represented at Sphere 0 above the Tree of Life.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 8:54 PMHave fun 'y'all.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:43 PM
What colors make black?
We get colors by absorbing some of the colors
in white light and reflecting others. Green ink
looks green because it reflects the green part
of white light and absorbs all the other colors.
Red ink looks red because it reflects red light
and absorbs all the other colors. When you mix
green, red, blue, and yellow ink, each ink that
you add absorbs more light. That leaves less
light to reflect to your eye. Since the mixture
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:51 PM"Color is the suffering of Light." - Goethe -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:31 AM
then they would have no rhythm...
it is within man who suffers, not light - dog star
One of the fundamental truths about color that's important to understand is that color is something we humans impose on the world. The world isn't colored; we just see it that way. A reasonable working definition of color is that it's our human response to different wavelengths of light. The color isn't really in the light: We create the color as a response to that light, just as we create the sensation of pain when struck by an object. The color brown is no more inherent to a given pebble, say, than is the pain we might feel if that pebble struck us solidly in the forehead.
Color is created by the interaction of three elements -- an illuminant (a light source), an object, and an observer (the person who experiences the color). We'll talk more about the observer in a minute; for now it's most important to understand the relationship between the light source and the object.
Out of the many vibrations reaching the earth
color picture painted in the image of his master. Although normally associated with the Seventh Ray all things rise of the Divine Installment
The rays can be perceived through colour or sound (MUSIC). The seven colours and sounds of the rays provide a more intuitive approach to understanding. For instance, Ray 7 corresponds to the note of G and the colour violet, depending upon which octaves are being used.
because black makes a photograph’s colors appear more vivid by contrast.
“Color is all. When color is right, form is right. Color is everything, color is vibration like music; everything is vibration.” — Marc Chagall -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:40 AM"Imagination death precedes death of the soul." -- Anonymous
"The border between the Real and the Unreal is not fixed, but just marks the last place where rival gangs of shamans fought each other to a standstill." -- Robert Anton Wilson
"It's better not to know so much about what things mean or how they might be interpreted or you'll be too afraid to let things keep happening. Psychology destroys the mystery, that potential for a vast, infinite experience." -- David Lynch
"Life is a mystery to be lived and not a problem to be figured out." -- WB Yeats
Existence itself may be considered an abyss possessed of no meaning. I do not read this as a pessimistic statement but a declaration of autonomy for my imagination & will and their most beautiful act of bestowing meaning upon existence itself." -- Hakim Bey -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:27 AM
The house of heaven is the house of man. No walls stand between heaven and earth.
Hell of my creed consist in that natural Nemesis which follows on broken laws, and dogs the law breaker, in spite of any of his beliefs
There is Intelligence involved in all that is intelligible. All who break the laws of nature do so under penalty of punishment. They learn sooner or later that there is a law-maker, whose ministers and agencies will dog the law-breaker; however we may deny the law-maker, we cannot evade the law!
Only we claim to have scientific grounds for knowing. A crude materialistic interpretation of the Universe bottoms nothing. There is eternal motion; there is eternal life. There is a being beyond appearance. There is a Consciousness that co-ordinates the means to attain the ends, with power to turn to account all that occurs in the sphere of so-called human Free-Will.
Nature knows nothing of the forgiveness for sin. She has no rewards or punishments--nothing but causes and consequences.
But, nature is not of this intelligence … the soul only grows and learns through nature and that is why we are here...yes, each and everyone of you has a purpose, a soul purpose, if you will... it’s your own hero’s (Heru's) journey.
Of fire returning to fire, he can not be turned away, unless a man extinguishes his light himself, unless he casts out god. If he casts out god, he shall die he is dead. He shall be nothing, will be nothing, is not, and will have been nothing. He shall never have existed.(66)
We are like Heru. We are children of Ausar. We are light defying darkness. darkness defying light. He was twice born: once of sky, once of his mother; that is once of spirit and once of matter. Having fought cunning and deceit, he came at last to the house of Ausar (tree of Life) and was uplifted to heaven.The sun and moon became his eyes. He was light giving light, he was dark with acceptance and compassion.
Only we claim to have scientific grounds for knowing.
A crude materialistic interpretation of the Universe bottoms nothing. There is eternal motion; there is eternal life. There is a being beyond appearance. There is a Consciousness that co-ordinates the means to attain the ends, with power to turn to account all that occurs in the sphere of so-called human Free-Will.
False Astrology (And i hold Sherpa personally responsible) and Spiritualism merely begets a craze after another life or a projection of the future and past. But a true Astrology and Spiritualism will turn our attention to this life, in the present - and help on the work of this world.
Kmt enables us to call in the new world in our rectification and adjustment of the wrong done in the old--somewhat like calling in troops from the new world of the Colonies to fight the battle of England in the old. It has come to quicken a keener conscience in the human race; set up a loftier ideal of life and a nobler standard of appeal than fear of punishment and hope of reward.
For me, KMT means an aid in the certain overthrow of all false dogmas and lying legends, which have been imposed upon women men, and are still imposed upon the children, in the name of God. Science has been driving in its splitting wedge with a mighty ripping and rending of the ancient beliefs.
But with KMT the wedge is alive, and takes root just as the seed of the Indian Bo-tree is so vital that when it is sown singly in the cleft of some lofty tower or fortress, and a drop of moisture and a smile of sunshine have caused it to quicken, it will shoot out and lay hold of the stone with its feelers and strike root to make its way down the walls to the earth outside, and laying hold of this it gathers strength and grows mightily, and sends back such force to its birth-place that the walls are rent, and the temporary resting-place betwixt earth and heaven is shattered in favour of the newer rootage and firmer foothold upon this more nutritious and life-giving ground.
So will KMT lay hold of the larger substance of reality, and inevitably rend the barren stone walls of the Establishments into fragments, minute enough to be ground down into the new fresh soil in which it is destined to flourish and bear fruit in the freer, larger, loftier life of a nobler human race!
Excerpts of "seed of the Indian Bo-tree" from: THE COMING RELIGION
by Gerald Massey
www.theosophical.ca/ComingReligion.htm
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:26 AMAre you an authority on science or spirituality?
Do you have any evidence to support your claims?
Are you aware that most people on tribe are probably slightly hip to the implications that science holds for our understanding of consciousness?
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:05 AM"What is the point of this post?"
It's an proselytising advertisement. Join and see the Truth.
Took a little longer than usual to pick up on that. . . . .
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:22 AM"What is the point of this thread?"
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:55 AM"troll fodder from the realms of flotsom and jetsom"
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:44 AM
"troll fodder from the realms of flotsom and jetsom"
>I don't understand what you mean?<
Sherpa is jealous of me because i challenge him on Astrology and the Jewish whitewash and the world's best kept secret;
Shhh...these people are not even the real Jews, the real Jews are from Ethiopia, and a black race - the Black Hebrews
“Zionism is not Judaism, and the rejection of Israel is not anti-Semitic.”
Zionist have used the propaganda of the Jews as a shield, as they take over the regions of world wealth, of black mans gold (oil and diamonds) and all natural resources, as they take over our culture and religion.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:56 AMGodStar
re: "Sherpa is jealous of me because i challenge him on Astrology and the Jewish whitewash and the world's best kept secret; "
I have never perceived any challenge from you about Astrology, only this assumption. Personally, I do not find your information worthy of challenge. However, I do challenge and question your presentation which I find bombastic and offensive. I accept that you are a very perceptive person with great research facilities but regretfully, the fruits of your labors rot in the fields when nobody picks them up and eats them. The smell of rot is just too pungent for the human palate. Think on this.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:58 AM"Love requires no explanation; Love Is."
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:02 PMre: "Love requires an explanation. I wonder if love is natural or a product of human socialization."
Love is what you are.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 2:52 PMWhich is it for you Remi? Is love natural, or a socialization?
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 5:35 PM"Love requires an explanation. I wonder if love is natural or a product of human socialization."
Love is eternal - true love.
Not be confused with what we normally call "Love" and the love that Remi is likely referirng to.
"Human love", like "Human (everything else)" has the taint of limitation, causality, beginnings and ends - fear - selfishness - "human arrogance", and thus is an abomination of its original source - the true, eternal love that is its origin - that is your origin.
The same could be said for everything unless transformed and purified / clarified in the fires of truth.
As even in this question, most humans assume they have invented everything.
Most things that are products of human socialization are negative in nature. Yet this negativity, these laws, are necessary for us at this stage and in this world. They are not bad but they are also not truthful ULTIMATELY. The laws of the material world give us structure to act, yet the lawlessness of the soul is always ready to liberate and obliterate the logic and order of our slumber.
Don't confuse human constructs for cosmic ones.
Human love, Human power, Human wisdom, etc are poor substitutes for their divine origins.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:01 PMI like what the Jefferson Starship song "Miracles" said: I know that love is the answer, keeps holding this world together.
youtube.com/watch
1 John 4:8
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
The love of God holds it together.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:41 PMLove is finding the divine within the human and the human within the divine -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:19 PM"Love is finding the divine within the human and the human within the divine"
True.
Sort of.
That requires we purify and transform what it is we are calling a "human".
And.
It is not just finding love in "humans" - again the arrogance - as if humans are the only thing relevant.
I would contend that "Love" in this sense - the eternal sense - is finding the divine in all of creation, not just things with faces that talk to us or talk back to us. It is this arrogance that justifies the systematic torture and abuse of animals for food - the destruction of the planet and many other "human" things.
Human beings are not the most important thing that has ever happened to Earth.. Hell, being a human is not even the most important thing that has happened to our souls.
but it is a great gift - a body with consciousness - and a marvelous chance to learn.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:58 PM"Which is it for you Remi? Is love natural, or a socialization?"
Socialization.
I think that most things that we are taught in this society is a product of socialization; from romantic love, to how we should celebrate sex. Sex is a biological act but it is influenced by social factors such as religion. Love, on the other hand, is a social product. It is behaviors that we were taught by our parents, and communities.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:36 PM
Sherpa,
"Think on this."
I have a higher authority, your opinion means nothing ..."bombastic" yeah I AM "strong force"
but its only to reveal your ego -
I am far from perfect and have given up the illusion of being perfect or the Ego Identification of being "this" or "that"
Deaf ears? I have over 3,000 member and consult each day with hundreds
i need not you nor this joke tribe... if i unsettle you then good
"In the heat of the day I seek shadows. At night I
praise the light of stars.The moon grows legs and
wanders through an young man's heart seeking some dark
corner to inspire. At midday the god walks through town
invisible as cats. Only children and wise old men know
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a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:42 PMre: "I have a higher authority, your opinion means nothing ..."bombastic" yeah I AM "strong force" but its only to reveal your ego - "
Since my opinion means nothing to you, I am free to comment on the strong force of your stench.
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Re: a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 9:44 AMSherpa wrote:
"Love is finding the divine within the human and the human within the divine"
Then he wrote:
"Since my opinion means nothing to you, I am free to comment on the strong force of your stench. "
Sherpa,
With all due respect, you words of divine love ring very hollow.
Is GodStar also not a divine human, worthy of a better attempt for you to practice what you are preaching?
I agree that his presentation is bombastic etc. - I have seen him here before, but your hostility toward him is yours and a choice you are making. Totally Your Stuff.
This hypocrisy is typical of human beings in general. Concepts are easy to espouse and hard to practice. In this very thread you cut him down mercilessly in one sentence then talk of what "Love" is in the next.
What enrages you so much about him that you defile the Love that YOU are and that He is ?
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Re: a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:04 AM<snort>
I'll tell you what enrages me. Stuff like this:
"What enrages you so much about him that you defile the Love that YOU are and that He is ?
Think on this."
Gag me with a shovel.
GodStar, it's really much more effective to just get your points across...without all the spiritual ego static. I would say that's what "God" really wants from you...not all this blustery, "I Am Ultimate" bullshit.
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Re: a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:42 AMre: "Sherpa, With all due respect, you words of divine love ring very hollow. "
hahaha. the quote "Love is finding the divine in the human and the human in the divine" is not mine but from the Sufi master Pir Valayat Khan. If you find it hollow, Sam Geppi, perhaps it reflects your own hollow man nature.
contrary to your assumption, i was not and am not enraged with GodStar. i see him as a very perceptive person with great research facilitiers (as I already mentioned) . i merely found his presentation offensive, his style; that's all. I have said as much about your style, too. GodStar is intelligent enough to not take it personally. I don't know why you bothered to step in and defend him with this counterattack. You already know I don't take you seriously.
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Re: a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:15 PM"If you find it hollow, Sam Geppi, perhaps it reflects your own hollow man nature."
I don't find the words themselves hollow, but you stating them as if you agree with them and then violating their intention over and over is pretty hollow.
BTW - I didn't say YOU were the author.
As always you respond defensively to me and without sincerity as you now claim you "merely found his presentation offensive, his style; that's all."
Go back and read your words Antero Alli (since you want use real names). Your contempt with GodStar is obvious and all over this thread and hardly expresses "loving the divine in the human", etc. Your little caveats to him about being a good researcher or whatever are just hollow justifications at fairness. They fool no one, especially in contrast to things like this:
"I smell a pungent narcissism festering behind an elaborate mask of grandoise spirituality. I hear a lonely, hollow howling at the moon for attention from anyone not paying attention to the scam beneath the soapbox he is standing on. I see someone dangerously starved for the warmth of human touch by mistakenly turning LOVE into an abstract principle that explains everything about everything."
You could take me pointing this out to you in many ways, but you choose a typical public reaction.. "Gotta Win, Gotta Win, Gotta Win"
Anyway, I have a lot to do,.. be well brother.
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Re: a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:55 PMSam Geppi
re: "As always you respond defensively to me "
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Re: a strong smell of sulphur in the room
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:00 PMAntero Alli,
I did not attack you. I pointed out what appears a glaring inconsistency between your words and deeds. At least it was not my intention to attack you. I have experienced you as reacting as if attacked over and over in this tribe.
I see you point out others mistakes and weaknesses all the time here, as you have done in this thread repeatedly. But usually it is not in an aggressive way. Yet I have seen when someone points to your mistakes or even disagrees with you about astrology and your opinions, you often react as if attacked by attacking them or trying to belittle them in some way (as you did to me here).
In this thread you have laid into another member in the harshest of ways yet you describe that as you "merely found his presentation offensive, his style; that's all."
Yet you sum up my post to you as an "ATTACK".
This is unbalanced.
Read this again and tell me where I attacked you:
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Sherpa wrote:
"Love is finding the divine within the human and the human within the divine"
Then he wrote:
"Since my opinion means nothing to you, I am free to comment on the strong force of your stench. "
Sherpa,
With all due respect, you words of divine love ring very hollow.
Is GodStar also not a divine human, worthy of a better attempt for you to practice what you are preaching?
I agree that his presentation is bombastic etc. - I have seen him here before, but your hostility toward him is yours and a choice you are making. Totally Your Stuff.
This hypocrisy is typical of human beings in general. Concepts are easy to espouse and hard to practice. In this very thread you cut him down mercilessly in one sentence then talk of what "Love" is in the next.
What enrages you so much about him that you defile the Love that YOU are and that He is ?
Think on this.
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Yes i deliberately used the same "Think on this" that you did.
I found it arrogant for you to say to him and i bet you found it offensive that I said it to you.
You said:
"Are you done with me yet, Geppi ?"
I am Sam - the New World Astrologer.
Looking for Top Billing.
Creeping You Out.
Holding Down that 8th House of Chaos That You LOVE Soooo Much.
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the strong smell of sweaty gym socks
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:18 PMSam Geppi
You give me way too much attention here.
This creates a real imbalance, as I clearly do not care enough about your comments to give as much back. I think that you must somehow know this already and so I can only assume that all your words here act as some kind of show for others, the Sam Geppi show. From my perspective, we look more like wanking locker-room jocks on opposing teams during half-time in a game that never ends.
or a couple of pencil-neck giraffes with an itch to scratch...
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Re: the strong smell of sweaty gym socks
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:21 AM
I agree with Sadasiva, ha-ha
Sherpa you're way out of control and acting like an Ego maniac ;-P
you can't even admit when you're wrong, which is most of the time...
Sam is not the first person in this tribe to admit this...perhaps its time to take a "time-out" and reflect on your behavior? hmm? -
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i thought you were a troll
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:34 AMGodStar
Check it out. My posts to you came from an assumption that this is an Astrology tribe and that you were a troll, someone posting volumes of content that had nothing to do with Astrology. Though I find your research into the tribal complexity of Israel quite fascinating, I cannot see how it relates with Astrology. Bottomline, I thought you were a troll. My posts were a futile attempt to make you go away.
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Re: i thought you were a troll
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 10:58 PM
Sherpa,
Well, when you Assume you make an ASS out of U and ME...
you know who I am, and the title of this thread and the articles I posted in my blogs have a lot to do with Astrology and its metaphysical nature... i bet you didn't even read them?
I've come to claim the pyramids,
those blogs not only have a lot to do with the origins of the universe (one verse or song, in harmony) and how Cosmology and Astrology came about... but on Myths and these archetypes as well as the origin of religion, philosophy, science, of how they all came about, from Kemet to Astrology as well.
It shows the true meaning before the Greek corruptions - How and Why Astrology can be used
"The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question!"
is not about me or my ego, its the title to one of the blogs i posted,
you came in here, in my thread, with a derogatory remark quote on color,
when i only used the analogy of god being a black women
my post may not be for everyone, perhaps only for those looking for in-depth study -those who can make the connections, and those who are open and want to learn instead of mouthing off on and on about things they -Think- they know, people may think I'm pompous or egotisitical, but then i say have you done the work?
Have you spent years and years, 20 hours a day, laboring with these resource,
that does not mean I'm right, it just means you better come with something transforming
Competence breeds confidence ---my only problem is how to share it all in such a way that others here get it - where others can understand it and enable them to make that paradigm switch. This is not something i believe - this is like finding the king tuts head piece, even greater and priceless - this information is going to turn the world upside down and you all are the ones who will go down as shunning it - I try to say or post as little as possible and yet still have a certain level comprehension.
I have a message that has to get though - and i won't stop for anything or anybody - we can have a loving discussion or we can battle
the choice is yours, I'm doing gods work here and it has very little to do with me or my Ego i take no credit for it and this is not to get anyone to join my cult or anything like that - i say see for your self do and honest objective analysis - see for yourself
those who try to get in my way, may god have mercy on their souls they'll get stomped ha-ha - if they try to put me down they get stomped -
i am a warrior - i can be as good as the best or as bad as the worst so don't test me - I'm not that slow passive type of Taurus
But hey i like a good heated debate just as the next guy, but when it's all said and done, it was all for us, me and others to somehow grow a little bit - to challenge us to a higher understanding about ourselves, Astrology , and life- it's so funny because I'm free...and i love it
Most people see me go off and automatically discount me as "losing it" some think i must not be advanced or I'm emotionally immature - but that's what that "Blissed Out" blog i posted was all about - it's OK to get emotional and express yourself - many have been told that emotions are bad etc
Those who do not want to learn or are so full of themselves, and are not open for growth need not apply.
Ralph, Taryn, and finally Sirius Asked and Inquired.
so they are far more advanced
the thing is my cut and paste can be read and better understood than my rushed grammar and misspellings, and yes, those are apart of my Merc in Aries grand cross configuration but what i lack in structure i make up for in content.
I just don't have time to type these topics over again and again so I'll post one from a previous discussion...
all you have to do is say "I need clarification" or I'm not sure what your point is"
I'm debating these articles in 3 tribes along with my own tribes
my post may not be for everyone perhaps only the true inquiring minds and its also for those who search out topics on google, many have join my tribe based solely on my articles plus many of these websites get destroyed by the powers that be so i post as much of it as i can
the post on Israel has a lot to do with astrology and how the bible came about - the bible is Astrology, the 12 tribes of Judah and the 12 disciples are the twelve signs of the Zodiac
www.angelfire.com/stars2/as...iples.html
the only thing that obscures the signal is your laziness and your Ego
read for god sake - or don't comment at all and if you do, know that i like to back up my statement with a link for reference or resource
this information has to be discovered, I've edited them as much as possible - usually after i post an article with my cut and paste i then want to discuss it or debate it in my own words or quotes to go along with it with yet there's so much western corruption this is no easy task- but no one listens and their head's are so filled with conditioning and lies- they see what they want to see and then jump to conclusion.
most of these threads no one ever returns to ... how in gods name to you all go back and forth spending so much time and don't grow?
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Re: i thought you were a troll
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:36 PMGodStar
Thanks for explaining so clearly your intentions and for sharing something of your struggles around trying to get your message across. You are clearly on a mission and inspired by many visions of truth. Big picture stuff. And the thing is, I actually want you to succeed. I want to see other people actually get the vision you're seeing.
I am also carried by visions of truth that I struggle to communicate (natal 9th House Pluto, Uranus, Moon and South Node). Texting on tribe remains the most frustrating medium for me to do that. That's why I return; to learn how to do it better. And so, I can relate with your frustration to get the vision across and how easily you can be misunderstood. This has happened to me many times before and will probably happen, again.
My first derogatory remarks expressed honest emotions of repulsion to your initial fire&brimstone communication style; honest emotion without regret. But when you write simply from your personal experience, your ideas and views come across very clear and direct, bold and compelling, ie., the positive side of Mercury in Aries?
We have misunderstood each other. Thanks to your response here, I understand you a little more now. I hope you understand me some more now, too.
Onward.
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Re: i thought you were a troll
Sun, May 18, 2008 - 8:54 PM
sherpa,
"Onward."
Thanks Sherpa, i somehow missed this post
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:47 AMRalph
I posted: ""troll fodder from the realms of flotsom and jetsom"
you replied: "I don't understand what you mean?"
Your reply was exactly the same as my reply to all these posts by GodStar (RatsDog spelled backwards).,
GodStar's words waft and fume with the bovine excreta of flaming intellectual arrogance. Note the title of this thread: "The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!" I smell a pungent narcissism festering behind an elaborate mask of grandoise spirituality. I hear a lonely, hollow howling at the moon for attention from anyone not paying attention to the scam beneath the soapbox he is standing on. I see someone dangerously starved for the warmth of human touch by mistakenly turning LOVE into an abstract principle that explains everything about everything.
Love requires no explanation; Love Is.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:05 AM
i do not claim to be an authority on anything...the Divine is and this is it's message, I am just a scribe
And Yes, we have evidence and beyond and we have experience "we don't think, we know"
>"Are you aware that most people on tribe are probably slightly hip to the implications that science holds for our understanding of consciousness?"<
i guess that is partially my fault - the excerpt I posted below the links is of little importance - it was perhaps for those of right sided
thinking only I was debating in the crossroads tribe with Atheist and Materialist...
the Science community has lied (Scientism) and we have come to set it straight ...this is science of a higher nature
“Thus, Science is a means of conditioning the masses to accept future visions that the elite wish to tangibly enact. This process of gradual and subtle inculcation is dubbed "predictive programming." …"Predictive programming works by means of the propagation of the illusion of an infallibly accurate vision of how the world is going to look in the future"…
Materialistic Scientism - by E.F. Schumacher
but the links (above) are of value
>What is the point of this post?<
To introduce you to KMT (Ancient metaphysical Egypt - when we we all black, and what's been hidden or stolen out of racism and sexism
all Greek and Roman unknowledge (And Astrology) is Stolen and Perverted African wisdom - the Jewish even try to claim the Kabblah
In every area of modern life, ancient Kemet left solid lessons and guiding principles to live by. We should return to our source, build on our best, modernize each area that Ancient African Kmt made advanced contributions in, extract the fundamental lessons, redeem and restore indigenous civilization before the predatory invasions of the West and North, and stand on our ancient's tradition of excellence. The mental, moral, and martial contributions (Ma'At) of ancient African Kemet civilization are unmatched in human antiquity.
The present eclectic, confused, frail, fragmented, contaminated, hodge-podge cesspool of stillborn hybridized Pagan and scientific ideas are in need of redemption, resurrection, and renaissance of a improved spiritual civilization and culture - which is to be realized within this lifetime. And the time is Now (i pitty the fool who gets in Divines way) - This is the real meaning of 2012 and the new age Aquarius
Divine has enlisted me - Merc in Aries opposite Mars in Libra
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:11 AM
There's a new phenomena that I call "bliss out." Everyone claiming they're some how evolve or as if they reach different levels of meditation that they are some how "there" What's happing is there's a lot of people passing off as enlightend a lot of people are getting to the point where there getting so blissed out (APATHY) that they don't really understand that its not about just blissing out and saying
"oh everything's fine, everything's beautiful, everything's great."
it's about DOing the work, feeling the pain, and helping others, sharing love; even sweat, and tears, even fALLing in love if need be
Blissed' Out
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...566efb272b
Everything is NOT great. Everything is NOT fine as far as the human self is concerned, obviously. To the eternal self yes, everything is fine, everything is all right. But there's a real fine line that many people are stepping across into this detachment and not caring about changing the world (these are the low vibrations of the aquarius age). "Well the world is fine as it is. There's nothing to do. Everything is perfect as it is. Good, bad it's all fine. Murderers, saints, it' all the same."
On one level this is true, in the non duality and the Kemetic teachings. However, there is the portion of the eternal self, the Godself that is in you, that does want to change the world and does want to change what is happening here.
There are civilizations that have risen and fallen. There are civilizations that have risen and flourished. There are probably planets somewhere Utopia has been achieved. There are planets that have been completely destroyed, maybe even self-destructed. All of this is in the mind of God. This is all imaginings in the mind of God. And yes, on that level it's all fine.
But there is an urge in the human heart; the human heart does want to evolve. The human heart does want to see changes; does want to reach this Utopian idea of society and civilization. And you are in this human urge; this human evolution. You are not evolving but the human species is. You, as formless awareness, the consciousness of Godself, the emptiness that contains the everything-ness; you are that and you don't need to evolve. You aren't learning anything. You aren't changing anything.
All these things appear and disappear: people, places, experiences, planets, civilizations, even universes appear and disappear. All of these appearings and disappearings are happening in this container that you, which is consensuses. All of these appearings and disappearings are coming and going, and those are changes, but the awareness that is left over is still left untouched, unchanged, unharmed, not fixed, not harmed. You are already perfect so there is nothing to change; there is nothing to fix.
Now the human self on the other hand, the human condition, the human species, the human civilization… all of this is evolving, and this is a project for the mind of God. This is a human experiment. What if Utopia can be reached in human form? This is the question.
So you see, YOU are not evolving. The humanity is evolving. And then you can say, “Well ok, what about aliens? Are they evolving?" Sure, it's all evolving. Every civilization grows and develops new technologies. Every species grows and evolves; even comes up with new species. All of this is part of the coming and going in the emptiness that you are; part of the comings and goings in the arena of consensus.
So rest your mind, rest your soul, rest your heart… but don't become so detached, so dis-compassionate that you forget about the project that you’re in. If you are in a human form right now you are part of this project. And so yes there is a certain level of caring about what happens, and being careful of this non-duality bliss out. It's a new phenomenon in the metaphysical community and it's probably one of the toughest nuts to crack once someone gets into this non duality bliss out.
It's difficult to explain how it might be important to stay involved in the human condition experiment… the human condition evolution. It's not an excuse to check-out and not be part of it anymore. You're a part of it whether you like it or not at this point, because you did sign up for human body and here you are. Working with the human condition, attempting to stop the monkey mind, attempting to let go of the past and stay out of the future and be here in the present… all of this is evolution of human species.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:04 AMI will really spend some time reading what you have wrote before I make any assumptions; but coming from a point of view that seems to resonate with Buddhism more than anything, I am trying to make sense out of the relationship between astrology and consciousness.
I can understand how larger patterns could have influence on smaller patterns (such as thought forms) but astrology is still in the realm of form, so how could someone who makes an argument about formlessness based on form have a sound idea?
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:20 AM
Well thank you Ralph,
>"I am trying to make sense out of the relationship between astrology and consciousness."<
well then you're in the wrong tribe
Intuitive Astrology
astrotribe.tribe.net/
The very first thing which I would like to clarify is that both the Tarot and the Zodiac are not external phenomena. They are not "out there" and should be considered living essences or archetypes within each individual.
You are a living, breathing zodiac.
I refer to it as the "Living Oracle." The external planets have no strange effect on consciousness, at least not enough to affect one's fate. It is a fundamental error and the basis of great metaphysical confusion to postulate otherwise.
Know that the philosopher has power over the stars, and not the stars over him - Paracelsus
As long as you still experience the stars as something above the head you lack the eye of knowledge - Fredrick Nietzsche
when the planets of the Solar System are named or symbolized...it must not be supposed that the planetary bodies themselves are referred to, except as types on a purely physical plane of the septenary nature of the psychic and spiritual worlds - Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
It is an erroneous interpretation of astrology to opine that special forces emanate from the planets and the stars - R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz (Sacred Science)
A Taroscopic chart, like any divination chart, is a record of the interaction between the conscious and unconscious dimensions of being and on a gender level between the masculine and feminine polarities.
Due to modern society's aversion to right-brain expression, the esoteric disciplines once revered by kings are all but deleted from serious concern, being relegated to the level of novelty and pseudo-science. Though there is a plethora of "New Age" books rolling off the assembly lines, few authors or researchers concentrate on the relationship between Astrology and its sister disciplines - Astrology, Numerology and Kabala - all children to the great mystery systems of Kemet - Mama Afruka
It is time for each person to become their own priest or priestess and to dispense with such authorities on the external level. What we have been receiving from the pulpits is not religion or theology but propaganda.
Theosophists and Magicians know that we each have within us a Living Oracle. We need to find out how it comes into being, how it operates and how to get directly into contact with it, if we are going to be mentally and psychologically present in the New Millennium and be able to assuage the existential nihilism and decadence apparent everywhere. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:29 AM
I AM AMON Ruler of Pharmouti (gOd StAr Chanel)
"The creator and a self-created God. He is discreet, but is virile and active at the same time. Amon was/is, the beginning, the warrior God who fought and destroyed the enemies of the divine order. He is placed very high in the hierarchy of Gods, however, when the order is threatened, he does not hesitate to come to the battlefield to fight.
Mandala Dendera: Original Map of the Sky
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...8941490c05
The Mandala of Denderah precedes all modern history and is over 54,000 years old. It is clearly older than many civilizations on the planet and has been reproduced by various societies. It has been plagarized by the Greeks, Arabs, Chinese, and the Hitittes to name a few. Each group has changed the Mandela of Denderah to establish their own cultural identity with the map. For example, on the Chinese calendar, a dragon resides in the same position where a crocodile resides in the Mandala of Dendera. When looking at the Mayan calendar, one can see its close resemblance to the Kemetic map. Hence, the map was changed from astronomical accuracy to a cultural expression for each group of people.
The map has been reproduced in various areas around the world. But what is happening is that every tribe or culture tries to add their identity (Grossness) to the Mandala by transforming aspects of the map itself,” Most of the public does not realize how easy corruption happened and was introduced into a spiritual and factual map.
Different people put their own cultural flavor or influence in it, and that is what has affected the knowledge (Gnosis). “You start doing something with a reason, and in time the reasons of why you are doing it change. You see it as evolution, but the truth is it is more like a degeneration.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:58 AM
"You have gotten yourself into quite a conundrum! "
Evidently you were speaking to yourself here and didn't take heed. You have spoken way to much to answer all of your obvious errors, but I will point out a few.
"spirit comes from consciousness"
You evidently don't know that the spirit and soul are two different things. Just as you are made up of body, soul, and spirit. Three in one.
Your spirit is able to talk to your conscious.When God made man he breathed the spirit of life into him and he became a living soul.
You are not God. You are simply a man, and will die like a man. You said that your mother is a God. lol You were just a seed in her body sitting around which would have been dumped into a toilet if it wasn't for a seed from your father. It is just a biological function created so that the real God can put your soul and spirit into that piece of clay. I find that many people that have a miniscule concept of the greatness, power and glory of God tend to think themseves as God. Like a maggot rolling in dung looking up to a man and proclaiming himself God. haha! God can tell me what I had for breakfast yesterday. You are not omnipresent and have no idea. God is much larger than this universe and do you think that this primordal soup is all that exists? Not to mention even the multidimensional sections that you have never seen.
Enlarge your concept and perhaps you can begin to see the light, the little box that you wish to live in is way to small to hold those kinds of rays. If a man loses conciousness does he cease to exist? I think not!
"Black is not the absence of light but the Absorption of light."
Go deep into a tunnel and cave in one side so that no light can enter and tell me what colour that you see. Is it red, blue, or green? It will most deffinantly be black because in this case it is the absence of light, not an absorption of something that isn't there. Same with space, where there are no vibrations of light waves, it is black.
I am a photographer and I understand all about colours and spectrums and light waves and colour addition and colour subtraction, so you don't need to explain the physics of light to me. And I understand that our eyes only see certain wavelengths in the spectrum. What with radio waves,microwaves, infrared, then the visible spectrum, ultraviolet waves, x- rays, and gamma rays. All in the electromagnetic spectrum. (I won't go into the spiritual spectrum for you though)
Science will never have the answer for that which is in the realm of the spirit. Parly because, it doesn't play by the same laws and rules. So trying to find him that way is fruitless, though you can know many things about him by watching nature.
You said "Amen means “concealed”.
Actually the term we use in english means "So be it" It is an affirmation. It comes from a form of the Hebrew word, emunah, which means faith. I am Israeli, so I do know our language. So your whole speach on "Amen" is pretty much pointless.
Spirit is not matter, though if it wishes to it can combine with matter to take on a physical form. Actually, the "Strong Force" which I spoke of and you seemed to not wish to discuss, I believe that it is the Spirit of God that holds the nucleus of an atom together, and it can be taken apart or put together at His will. To those of us who have enough faith in Him, he allows us also to share in this ability as needed. Of your own self you can do nothing.
I choose not to continue in pointing out all of your errors and misconceptions in your further ramblings. Though I see you must be bored as your Intuitive Astrology tribe isn't receiving much input. Hang out here awhile and I am sure that Sherpa can teach you some real astrology. I have seen alot of false religions and gurus come and go. Yours is just another one to add to the list.
John 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me
John 10:4-5
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
I deffinantly do not hear my masters voice coming from you. You may be able to fool many, but I am not so easily deceived. KMT will be overthrown and cast down, Mark my words.
Oh, BTW, are you dyslexic, or did you just spell your name backwards on purpose?
Leave the dark side and come to the light, Darth.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:34 PM
Sirius,
come on! E'rybody break bread, huddle around Guzzle that, and see for yourself god in action
I'm about to grow hair on his back :O ha-ha (next post)
supreme cleintele
www.youtube.com/watch
ghostface lyrics (wu tang clan)
Uh huh uh huh what what? uh huh
Yeah I see that I see that
All y'all fake motherfreakers up in the joint huh?
Stealin my light huh?
Watch me du' watch me watch me
Check these up top spiritual murderous
Snowy in the bezzle as the cloud merges
Every eye try and want word with this
Kid who punked out bust a shot up in the becon
Catch me in the corner not speakin
Crushed out heavenly, yo' g rock the sweet daddy long fox me'
Chicken and brocolli, walle's look stinky
Since the God Star been revealed, game got real
Tribe, opened, my impostors, who scream the ill
I'm the inventor, o8 rhymin at the center
Debut '93 LP told you to enter (Wu TAng)
Punks stealin my light
Crawl up in the bed with grandma, beneath the lazy board where ya pray for your life.
Dog Star is back, stretch Cadillacs, screw cocktails
Hit the blunt, the pub space we rap
Walk with me like Dorthy tried to judge these
Plush degrees,
Take the stance, throw my hand all on the bible
And tell lies true, I'm the ultimate
Splash the Wolverine Razor Sharp ring, dolomit'
Student in role holdin it...ha-ha
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 1:09 PM
intermission
i WILL be back later to share that Love with you
OOPS! :-P Daytona 500! www.youtube.com/watch
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 4:03 PM"Sherpa is jealous of me because i challenge him on Astrology and the Jewish whitewash and the world's best kept secret;"
"these people are not even the real Jews, the real Jews are from Ethiopia, and a black race - the Black Hebrews "
When in doubt - blame the Jews - except for the black ones from Ethiopia.
Anybody ever hear of the "Jewish whitewash"? What the $%#& is THAT?
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 4:43 PMI have dealt with the black hebrews before in New York City, so their hate rhetoric is nothing new to me. I found them very hard to have a real dialogue with, lol and when I was pulling my bible out of my backpack, their leader (who had a bible in his hand) was afraid and had his thugs come over to make sure I wasn't pulling out a gun. haha
A large group of them also tried to get a foothold in Israel, claiming they were the true Hebrews. That didn't sit well and they were all deported.
As far as Jews taking over the worlds wealth, that is just more propaganda that he has bought into from the haters. They used to point to the socalled fact that the Bible was untrue because the prophecies said that Israel would once again be a nation in its own original land at the end of days. They laughed until they saw it fulfilled before their own eyes. When the surrounding arab nations decided to destroy Israel at its rebirth, they ended up getting their butts whooped and lost land in the process. They tried it again later, and lost even more land, all the way past the Sinai Peninsula.
I do see things setting up for something even heavier, and it wont only concern the Jews who will be the targets of destruction. People will even think that they are doing God a service in doing so. lol Trying to rid those that they think are holding back the earth from reaching a higher vibrational level. Make sure you don't play a part in this. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:46 PM"Make sure you don't play a part in this."
Very little chance of that!
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:53 PM
r u Kidding me?
you shouldn't even be in this thread it's like your a mere infant, an adolescent, going up against metaphysical supreme scientist - you lack understanding and comprehension.
You haven't even gotten my post let alone know anything about the topic nor astrology, you're way in over you head. You haven't understood any of my post and i didn't write those rap lyrics just more and more confusion.
You have no reading or comprehension skills
If i had the time I'd give you the spanking that you deserve in fact we can start another thread because i believe every man should know the truth - Sherpa stepped off cause he knows better with his experience, as I suggest that you do the same. Sirius Darth? whatever you don't even know what those names mean and you step to God?
You know Amen because your pagan Christ was stolen from Egypt the whole bible is full of them. I suggest you learn about the Essenes and the Orthodox Corruption of the Scriptures and research Gnostic (gnosis) and find out when all your bible comes from it was all taken from the book of the dead and cosmology hahaha sorry to rain on your parade but your church and your religion is one giant lie to control the masses for imperialism Pagan solar Christ who nailed the truth to the cross and drank his blood and ate is body (SIC) ... there is no Santa clause
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This Astrology tribe is for novices and beginners like you
God is not a thing its an Experience
and how we came into the world is the mother analogy
and maggots have the divine within them as well
I don't have to see the light I AM THE Light the truth and the
"Black is not the absence of light but the Absorption of light."
absence of light, is not the absence is energy nor power in we are the
originators of light
>"Science will never have the answer for that which is in the realm of the spirit."<
and that was my whole point with this thread but you lack comprehension
>"Actually the term we use in english means "So be it" It is an affirmation."<
that's more lies and confusion and speaks volume of your stolen religion of Egypt
>It comes from a form of the Hebrew word, emunah, which means faith. I am <Israeli, so I do know our language.<
Yet do you know where your language comes from?
i have accepted both light and dark sides... i am whole
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IDOLATORS OF ZION
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...6b30b8f33c
Black Moses and the real Exodus
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...3ee9a275d2
Advocators of Truth
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...8f1bde44ea
kristos: ancient wisdom lesson
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...03fbd04a3b
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The entire story of "jesus" (and all other religions) is a deliberate perversion of the story of Ausar, Auset and Heru (Osiris, Isis, and Horus)
* The word Christ is from Krishna (Christna). Krishna was a great avatar
(savior) in India 3000 years before Jesus. The name of the historical
man was Jehoshua (or Jeshua), not Jesus.
The transformations of the Pagan cult into the Christianity
and of the Gnostic/Kemetic hid behind veils of "Secrets,"
There are scrolls that reveal all this knowledge hidden from the world
Ever since the Alexandrian library was burnt by the Toman churchmen in
order to purposely destroy it, because they considered it dangerous to
the existence and survival of the new religion (Pagan Christianity) which
they elaborated by alteration of the original doctrines taught by the
Essenes centuries previously."
Jesus "lost" years were deliberately concealed by Roman churchmen,
along with most of the deeper, esoteric teachings of Original
Christianity which include reincarnation & karma. Fragments of these
teachings remain in the Bible, for example: John the Baptist was the
reincarnation of Elijah (Elias) the Prophet (Mt. 11:11-14, Mal. 4:5).
Reincarnation & karma explain much of the seeming unbalances in the
world.
Major altering and censoring of Biblical books were accomplished at the
Council of Nicea in 325 A.D. In addition, whole books were deleted from
the Bible. Evidence of missing Biblical books exists within the Bible
itself! These include the books of Jasher, Nathan, Shemaiah, Iddo and
Jehu -referred to in Nm. 21:14 /Josh. 10:13 / II Sam. 1:18 / I Chr. 29:29
/ and II Chr. 9:29, 12:15, 20:34. The Bible in its original form was the
product of an African people. Though it has been greatly "messed" with
Jesus in fact, was a "Black nationalist freedom fighter..
whose goals were to free the Black people of that day from the
oppressive ... the white Roman power structure and to build a Black nation."
* Jesus, the Panther? The original name for Jesus was "Jehoshau Ben
Pandira" which means "Jesus, son of the Panther!" Even the Bible refers to him as "the Lion of the tribe of Juda." (Rv. 5:5)
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Biblical Hebrew history is stolen
Egyptian mythology.
Evidence is in the Bible itself.
Exposing the fraudulent stolen history of the Hebrews
Abraham & Sarah were not real people; they were
the Sun & Moon. Even the Bible calls them an allegory.
The Bible itself proves that the 12 Tribes
of Israel were the 12 Zodiac signs!
Jews were never slaves in Egypt. The "Captivity" was a celestial event
The biblical Exodus was a plagiarized celestial legend
The historical "Exodus" was several "Expulsions" of
lepers & diseased foreigners
The murderous Hebrew conquest of Canaan never
happened according to archeological and even biblical evidence
The Tell-el-Amarna tablets "tell" on the Hebrews
Do we recognize the Counterfeit Religion or Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
The so-called Jews have no legitimate claim to Israel for two reasons
Reconstructing Probable True Judaic History
History's hidden "double Israel" is blended
or confused in His-Story books
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Comparing 5 of 25 Crucified Saviors
The world's 25 crucified, risen Saviors
Comparing five famous crucified Saviors
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The Resurrection of
the Plagiarized Solar Christ
The plagiarized Solar Christ : one original, many copies
All the crucified Saviors were personifications
of the Sun. They were the Sun /Son of God.
New Testament: The Gospel events are
solar allegories made literal! They mirror the Sun's annual history!
The Old Testament is equally astrological!
"Glorification through grease": The Afrikan origin of Anointing
Some 100 Euro Christ-words from just four Afro Krst-words
Holy Cannibalism: Saviors for Supper
Mummy Jesus in the Bible
Christ's biblical connections with Pisces
Born as Water, Reborn as Fire; the unsuspected
significance of Virgo & Pisces with John & Jesus
Who was the "father" of the "Son of Man"?
Thus the Crucifixion is Cruci-Fiction about the Crossification
Tracking down the historical human Jesus
Does Jesus's "double executions" point to two separate Christs?
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The Disguised Zodiacs
Composing the Entire Bible!
Astrology or the Zodiac is the disguised central theme of the Bible!
Genesis documents the creation of the Zodiac "signs"
Afrikans originated Astrology /Astronomy and took it around the world
Biblical evidence that the 12 (13) Tribes of Israel were the 12 Zodiacal Signs!
Thus we all belong to a "Tribe" of Israel, ¬that is, "sign" of the Zodiac!
The 12 (13) Tribes of Ishmael were also the 12 Zodiacal Signs
The 12 (13) Judges of the Book of Judges are the 12 Zodiacal Signs
The combined NAMES of all the Biblical Books conceal five Zodiacs!
The Bible's first big Zodiac is particularly deceptive!
Are the names of the kings of Israel & Judah
zodiacal, thus exposing them as fiction also?!
The names of Jerusalem's 12 Gates identify the Zodiac's 12 Gates 255
Hidden Zodiacs permeate and compose the entire Bible!
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The Zodiac-Apostles of Christ
Abundant biblical evidence that
Christ's 12 Apostles were the 12 Zodiac Signs!
So WHY is the Zodiac the underlying, disguised,
CENTRAL theme of the Bible?
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Westerns have done to "Original Christianity" what they've done to true history!
Like HIS-story, the westerns Christianity is False Christianity!
* The word Christ is from Krishna (Christna). Krishna was a great avatar
(savior) in India 3000 years before Jesus. The name of the historical
man was Jehoshua (or Jeshua), not Jesus.
* Jesus, the Panther? An original name for Jesus was "Jehoshau Ben
Pandira" which means "Jesus, son of the Panther!" (Blavatsky: The Secret
Doctrine) Even the Bible refers to him as "the Lion of the tribe of
Juda." (Rv. 5:5) Jesus in fact, was a "Black nationalist freedom
fighter.. whose goals were to free the Black people of that day from the
oppressive ... Roman power structure and to build a Black nation."
The Original Christianity of the Original Christians and Original Biblical
Books has been greatly changed, distorted, censored and reconstructed by
whites into a False Christianity which serves as a "weapon" and the
primary pillar of global white supremacy. Consider these
facts:
* The original early Christians were the Essenes, a Jewish sect in Palestine.
Jesus was an Essene. The earliest images of Jesus, his Mother, disciples
and Biblical characters, appear for the first time in the catacombs of
Rome where these early Christians (Essenes) buried their dead. They are
portrayed Black. These Essenes in fact, were the "early Christians" who
were brutally persecuted by the Romans and often fed to the lions
for entertainment!
* The Original Christians Church was also African (Ethiopian). Its
original African founders and early saints were often martyred when this
church was usurped by the whties who replaced it with their counterfeit
Roman Catholic Church.
*COMPARABLE BIBLE STORIES STOLEN FROM KEMET
*Please see links lower part of the page
home.austarnet.com.au/calum/egypt.html
An example of the information contained within the site:
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:07 PM
The original Biblical Jews were Black African people who were ruthlessly
persecuted by the white man (Romans). The prophet Jesus was a Black Jew
who was born during this time. The Roman-Jewish War in 66 A.D. marked
the peak of this persecution and the end of the original Black Jews
(Hebrew-Israelites) as a nation.
As predicted by Yeshua (Jesus), in this war Jerusalem was overthrown, the
emple was destroyed and the Black Hebrews were scattered. (Mat. 24:15-21, Luke 21: 5,6, 20-24)
The loss of life was appalling. So many Hebrews were slain that the whole lake of Galilee
was red with blood and covered with corpses. The noted historian,
Josephus estimated that one million one hundred thousand perished in the
siege of Jerusalem alone, reports Hugh Schonfield in his book The
Passover Plot p192-195, which describes this massive genocide.
* Seeking to escape destruction, millions of original Black Biblical Jews fled into AFRICA!
* Centuries later, their descendants were captured and sold into slavery in the Americas!
"Many of the Israelites... who managed to escape their persecutors during the Roman-Jewish War subsequently migrated to West Africa, and 16000 years later their descendants were captured and brought to America in chains by cruel slave-traders."
there were many Hebrew (Jewish) tribes that were of indigenous African origin, These African Jews were caught in a rebellion in Cyrene...during 115 C.E. This rebellion also marked the beginning of a mass Jewish migration southward into Sudan of West Africa." finding Jews scattered across North and West Africa during his travels. The Hebrewisms of numerous tribes,
especially in West Africa is well documented.
If the original Jews were Black, where did whtie Jews come from?
There are two main types of hite Jews; the Edomites and the Khazars. Edomites
are the descendants of Esau, who was born ruddy (red) and hairy according
to the Bible. (Gen. 25:25) This describes the "white" man; he is red
(all shades) and hairy. Esau was the albino, frateranl twin borther of
Jacob, the father of the original Black Israelites. The whtie Edomites
and Black Israelites were constantly in strife against one another.
In fact, the Edomites fought the Black Kews in the Roman-Jewsih War. At a
later period in history, the Edomites (Idumeans) were conquered and
forced to become "Jews." The European Khazars became "Jews" in 740 A.D.
(see below) Neither groups are descended from the house of Israel!
Khazars make up over 90% of the so-called "Jews!" (Hatonn)
The world's best kept secret? "These groups... [Khazars
esp., plus Edomites & other ethinic groups] make up modern Jewry today.
Although the black Hebrew-Israelites are the real descendants of ancient
Israel, this truth is not known by many and it is 'the world's best kept
secret.' Because of slavery and ascattering, the Hebrew-Israelites are
not known to the world as true Israel... Some scholares, teachers and
ministers teach that God has completely cast them awy, but God said, 'I
have chosen thee, and have not cast thee away.' (Isa. 41:9, last part.)
[& Rm. ch. 11] Although the chidern of Israel went into captivity, a
remnatn has returned as was predicted.
The prophecy of Ezekiel 37th chpater tells of the spiritual resurrection of the true people of Israel ( I AM THAT RESURRECTION),
who will be perpetually betrothed to their God in truth and in righteousness."
Counterfeit Jews: the white "Khazars" who have usurped the real Jews!...
Historians are now recognizing that the majority of eastern so-called
"Jews" are actually "Khazars" and have NO Semitic roots whatsoever!
The Khazars are impostors: well-suppressed knowledge is emerging about this
war-like tribe of whites that rose to power in Eastern Europe and were
hated by the other whites they conquered due to there severe,
exploitative treatment of them.
The Khazars all converted to Judaism as a political ploy during the Middle Ages. It appears that they learned
all they could fromt he real Hebrews before usurping them, selling them
into slavery (or killing them) and taking over in their place, -using the
corrupted form of Judaism to hide behind while continuing their treachery
right into modern times.
Much of Europe's historical hate for "Jews" is hate for the ruthless Khazars who continued to be hated in spite of becoming "Jews." In fact, the word "Jew" originated during the 1700s to label them!
The Khazars are the real "anti-Semites" who have labeled themselves as Zionists and "Jews"
to deceive the world in furthering their own plans for global & political conquest.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:25 PM
I don't know why i'm wasting my time on this....this thread was supposed to be Ultimate answers
The real story of Jesus (Yeshua): Real Christianity
blackhistory.tribe.net/thread...5919b6b
Yeshua (Jesus) was an Essene... Jesus was born in a cave in Ethiopia
The Ebionites were the Essenes who became the Disciples and Followers of Yeshua
Ebionite means the "poor ones"
."Blessed in spirit are the poor, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
Quoted from the Gospel of the Nazirenes
If you call yourself a Christian, Jew, Messianic believer, or Nazarene,
*then it is imperative that you learn of the Ebionites*
-- the Poor Ones --
who were the Original Essene followers of Yeshua/Jesus who were in the world and not of it.
While the Disciples of TheWay have become well known in their role as Essenes who we now know to be the true bedrock and foundation of what is known today as Christianity, the Essene followers of Yeshua came to be called Ebionites
The Teachings of The Way (MA"AT and the TAO)
The teachings of Yeshua/Jesus which are known as TheWay was a purely spiritual religion -- practiced by a purely spiritual people known and Essenes, Nazirenes and Ebionites. These sacred teachings became impure when placed in the hands of the Gentiles, and totally corrupted under Constantine and Pagan Rome.
Essene/Ebionites Do Not Argue Over Doctrine: In the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus there can be no sects or manmade church doctrines. The Teachings of TheWay is a guide to the believer along the "Narrow Path" through the "Strait Gate" and into the Inner Kingdom.
Paul taught that Denominations, Churches and Sects are under the dominion of Satan, because they alienate believers from Messiah/Christ and God. “Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned ”(Titus 3:10-11 NIV). The Greek meaning of the word divisive is “one who promotes a sect ”. It was for this reason the religion of the Messiah/Christ can have no doctrines of belief, and can have no worldly name as the churches have today, and this is seen in the fact that it was called “TheWay ”.
Spiritual Rebirth vs Church Doctrine: Yeshua said you must be Born Again to enter the Kingdom.
Nowhere in the Bible does it remotely suggest that present-day born again Christians have fulfilled this requirement by saying a prayer or merely calling on the Lord with the lips.
We are an Embryonic Image of our pre-existent soul, and we must experience the next stage of birth by merging the paradoxical male/female forces of Creation within our own mind and being.
The pathway into Life can only be attained by those who pick up their own cross and walk in TheWay. Thus, the disciples themselves witnessed this fact in the words: We must through many tribulations enter the Kingdom of God!" (Acts 14:22 NKJ).
The Vow of the Nazirene: Genuine Spiritual revelation can only be received by those who are set apart unto the Lord, and live in accordance with the Vow of the Nazirene. To know the Mysteries of God, and learn directly from the Son of God in the Temple *within us*,
The Orthodox Corruption of the Scriptures: Was the Bible rewritten? Prof. Nestle reflects the warning of many biblical scholars and writes: "Learned men, so called Correctores were, following the church meeting at Nicea 325 AD, selected by the church authorities to scrutinize the sacred texts and rewrite them in order to correct their meaning in accordance with the views which the church had just sanctioned."
To ignore the facts is to alienate oneself from the Living Word of God. Christians today are led in the wrong direction because they use the Bible that was re-written by the Church of Constantine.
The Gospel of the Nazirenes: What did the Gospels look like before being edited and re-written by the Church of Rome? What were the original beliefs of the first followers of Yeshua/Jesus?
KMT it all comes from the Kemetic Book of the Dead which is really the Book of the Living "coming forth by day "it is symbolic and a analogy
of the Tree of Life from Afrika
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:51 PMr u Kidding me?
y"ou shouldn't even be in this thread it's like your a mere infant, an adolescent, going up against metaphysical supreme scientist - you lack understanding and comprehension."
You haven't even gotten my post let alone know anything about the topic nor astrology, you're way in over you head. You haven't understood any of my post and i didn't write those rap lyrics just more and more confusion.
You have no reading or comprehension skills
"If i had the time I'd give you the spanking that you deserve in fact we can start another thread because i believe every man should know the truth - Sherpa stepped off cause he knows better with his experience, as I suggest that you do the same. Sirius Darth? whatever you don't even know what those names mean and you step to God?"
"You know Amen because your pagan Christ was stolen from Egypt the whole bible is full of them. I suggest you learn about the Essenes and the Orthodox Corruption of the Scriptures and research Gnostic (gnosis) and find out when all your bible comes from it was all taken from the book of the dead and cosmology hahaha sorry to rain on your parade but your church and your religion is one giant lie to control the masses for imperialism Pagan solar Christ who nailed the truth to the cross and drank his blood and ate is body (SIC) ... there is no Santa clause."
"I don't know why i'm wasting my time on this....this thread was supposed to be Ultimate answers"
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:41 PMI believe he's talking to Sirius.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:11 AM
No Remi Love, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Sirius
I like your post ...Love is an action
Compassion, is all you need to know -buddha
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:57 PM"Historians are now recognizing that the majority of eastern so-called
"Jews" are actually "Khazars" and have NO Semitic roots whatsoever!"
Historians may argue all they wish, DNA does not allow for argument.
See: "Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences" 97:6769-6774 (2000), and "Nature" 394:138 (1998)
"The founding fathers of Jewish communities around the world were drawn from the same ancestral Middle Eastern population of 4,000 years ago. ." (part of the J branch of the Y chromosome family tree.) Their descendants carry that genetic coding world wide.
There are also two specific sites on the Y chromosome, the cohen modal haplotype, which is shared by 45% of the Askenazic cohanim, and 70% of the sephardic cohanim. Estimated original date is 3000yrs ago, roughly corresponding to the First Temple Period in Jewish history.
Todays Jews DNA genetically ties them to the Middle East circa 4000yrs ago.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:49 AM
Who Are The Real Hebrews
uk.youtube.com/watch
Israel is Black
uk.youtube.com/watch
The Physical Appearance of Ancient Israel
www.stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm
The term Jew is the English translation of the Hebrew Yehewdiy means "descendant of Judah"--The Tribe of Judah--the Ethiopian Jews are descended from Jews who accompanied Menelik, the son of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, from Jerusalem to Ethiopia.
The Physical Appearance of Ancient Israel 2
www.stewartsynopsis.com/physic...t_i.htm
Beta Israel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel
www.freemaninstitute.com/Galle...ba.htm
A few years after his travels, Parfitt teamed up with a group from The Center for Genetic Anthropology at University College London to look for a genetic counterpart to the Lemba's oral tradition of Jewish descent. Using a relatively new technique in genetic studies, the team identified a particular series of genetic markers on the Y chromosome of Lemba males. They then compared these markers to other groups with whom the Lemba might have shared a common ancestor long ago.
"The first striking thing about the Y chromosomes of the Lemba (people) is that you find this particular chromosomal type (Cohen modal haplotype) that is characteristic of the Jewish priesthood in a frequency that is similar to what you see in major Jewish populations. The people of Lemba that we looked at had this particular Y chromosomal type that appears to be a signature of Jewish ancestry.
What this study shows is that the Lemba, and more specifically some members of the Buba sub-clan, seem to have an ancestral connection to Judaic populations. Like an oral history, but written in the letters of their DNA, the Lemba Y chromosome hands from father to son a living record of the past. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:18 PMIn order for me to touch on your certain points and threads, I need more of a starting point where you are coming from.
I notice that in many of your posts and threads, that you use text from the Word of God. What I am wanting to find out is, do you actually believe the Bible, if so, do you believe all of it, just the Old Testament, just the words of Yeshua, everything but the 4 books of the Gospels? Or do you only pick and choose which ones you want to accept? I am trying to find out what kind of foundation that you have here, is it a rock, or shifting sand?
And if the case is that you don't believe it, then why do you use it to support your doctrine?
Secondly, way up there somewhere you wrote: "Divine has enlisted me - Merc in Aries opposite Mars in Libra "
I am wondering what kind of credentials that your Mercury opposition Mars entails with Divine. I understand that with this aspect that heated or forceful debates are nothing new to you. That would put the Sun in Pisces, Aries, or Taurus. My guess is most likely Pisces. What about the rest of your chart? I looked through all of your pictures in your profile a couple of months ago and don't remember seeing it
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 4:31 PMLooks like another A-Bom set off,
now doing what was intended.
Insight conflict...
"Jane You Ignorant Slut"
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Re: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:53 PM
Thank you Sirius ;-)
>"do you actually believe the Bible"<
I believe (of the entire bible) that there is still metaphorical truth to the bible and some of their stories, still-yet-barely, intact with enough information to make out their true subjective and metaphysical meaning. I believe there might be some accurate history but most of it is inverted. i believe it to be a crude pagan make over, then with rendition after rendition. and most mistake it for fact instead of allegory
I too was brought up as a Christian and i believe you me it was hard to accept, but then i found what was even greater story than the "greatest story ever told" You can find god in the Christian practice and faith (and i don't mean to come down so hard on it but i do this with most of the religions in debates) as i have seen many members of the church with that twinkle in their eye of love and spiritual intelligence and the voice of a spirit filled minster speaking directly to me - you can find god in a tavern, my point being is that where the spirit of love is so is the divine
meaning if "Jesus" works for you and gives you that divine grace and spiritual abundance to do and live right then so be it ... but what's been going on for so long is that people are being mislead and misguided, and with the inaccurate help of Scientism i.e. sounding all legit(Which its not) it makes others shun the church and the Christan faith - abd god and many have become Atheist out of rebelion or out of the bible not really making sense ...I'm here to help change all of the - a one religion fits all
and how many people were tortured and killed with the acquisitions in the name of Christ
>"I am trying to find out what kind of foundation that you have here, is it a rock, or shifting sand?"<
I'm standing on a foundation of Love yet with enough power to help break though the outdated paradigms
and caring my approach my be ruff and rude at times (only when i feel attacked or that apathetic reaction or when others have not inquired or try discredit me with out proper cultivation... then i get that Warring feeling
i just want you all to know what I've found out in all my labors of love and research.... i mean years and years of this spiritual intelligence has guided me ...i take no credit for this information or that i'm somehow enlighted or whatever...I come on strong so others will react to the force and reveal their ego so a change can occur - a transformation much like what is going on now
theres a secret to dog star ...i'm like silly puddy when others come at me with love ...it's like i can't fight love and don't want to
"And if the case is that you don't believe it, then why do you use it to support your doctrine?"
because we have to go backwards step by step soon you will see that Yeshua is just a myth
>"Secondly, way up there somewhere you wrote: "Divine has enlisted me - Merc in Aries opposite Mars in Libra - I am wondering what kind of credentials that your Mercury opposition Mars entails with Divine."
that's not really what i meant - that's my combative reactionary side of what i perceive to be for justice - you have to understand these two are apart of my grand cross, along with the moon and Jupiter (9th house) - So in a way i have my Cross to bare...but with the divine credentials, I think we all have them - but with mine numerology Master 11 and Scorpio rising, Taurus sun ruling planet Pluto in the 10th/11th house
I'm here to help usher in this divine truth -
Yes does my Aries Mercury get me in trouble sometime
">I understand that with this aspect that heated or forceful debates are nothing new to you."<
Yes that is true, it's my one of my best qualities and also one of my worst
What about the rest of your chart? Why do you want to know that? we just met we can't do that yet ha-ha ...I shared a little bit above
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A comparative list of some pre-existing and pre-Christian data which were christianized in the Canonical Gospels and the Book of Revelation.
KMT - THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
www.theosophical.ca/AncientE...endix.htm
*COMPARABLE BIBLE STORIES STOLEN FROM KEMET
Bible Story Egyptian Source
*You have to scroll through the middle of the page
home.austarnet.com.au/calum/egypt.html
these two have been very instrumental
Gerald Massey
www.africawithin.com/massey/...ssey.htm
Alvin Boyd Kuhn
tribes.tribe.net/kmt/threa...74f9661032
Black people who wrote the bible
tribes.tribe.net/kmt/threa...ed840164cd
Ancient Egypt and Biblical Similarities
tribes.tribe.net/kmt/threa...49b5c2e6a5
African Influence on Christianity
www.raceandhistory.com/histor...001.htm
Gary Greenberg (a white Jewish guy)
The Moses Mystery: The African Origins of the Jewish People
101 Myths of the Bible: How Ancient Scribes Invented Biblical History
ggreenberg.tripod.com/aboutgg.htm
For those who can’t read more that a sentence or two
• Moses didn't write the Ten Commandment
• David didn't kill Goliath
• Samson did not pull down a Philistine temple
• Joshua didn't bring down the walls of Jericho
• Sodom and Gommorah never existed
• Noah's ark did not land on Mount Ararat
• The story of Esther originally had nothing to do with the Jews of Persia.
these are all symbolic ...
on the Moses Mystery
• Moses was the chief priest of the Aten cult and that at the time of Akhenaten's death Moses fled from Egypt to avoid execution. Upon Horemheb's death he returned to Egypt and attempted a military coup,
• His allies included the persecuted remnant of Akhenaten's following, large numbers of badly treated sick and diseased Egyptians, assorted opponents of Ramesses I, and an army belonging to the Canaanite kingdom of Shechem, whose rulers were openly hostile to Egypt's demands for submission.
• Moses' actions brought the nation to the brink of civil war. The confrontation ended with a negotiated truce that guaranteed the insurgent army safe passage out of the country. This negotiated truce and safe passage out of Egypt was the Exodus.
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This places the emergence of Israel after the patriarchal history, the Genesis stories of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, he also sets out to analyze the origins of these biblical accounts. His study shows that the patriarchal history was actually based on Egyptian mythology about the family of the god Osiris and in The Moses Mystery he shows the many parallels between the biblical and Egyptian stories.
He also analyzes the biblical and archaeological evidence concerning the existence of the Twelve Tribes and the settlement of Canaan. The evidence shows that the Twelve Tribes never existed and that the original core of biblical Israel consisted only of the Rachel grouping. In subsequent years the Rachel coalition merged with Canaanite and Greek settlers to form a new nation.
He argues that Moses was the chief priest of the Aten cult and that at the time of Akhenaten's death Moses fled from Egypt to avoid execution. Upon Horemheb's death he returned to Egypt and attempted a military coup, the purpose of which was to restore the Aten cult to the throne.
His allies included the persecuted remnant of Akhenaten's following, large numbers of badly treated sick and diseased Egyptians, assorted opponents of Ramesses I, and an army belonging to the Canaanite kingdom of Shechem, whose rulers were openly hostile to Egypt's demands for submission.
Moses' actions brought the nation to the brink of civil war. The confrontation ended with a negotiated truce that guaranteed the insurgent army safe passage out of the country. This negotiated truce and safe passage out of Egypt was the Exodus. -
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Re: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:56 PM
Advocators of Truth The entire story of "jesus" is a deliberate perversion of the story of Ausar, Auset and Heru (Osiris, Isis, and Horus)
people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...8f1bde44ea
Let me begin with the proper etymology of the name jesus/hesus/yeshua. Many of us know the letter 'j' entered the english alphabet in the 1600s. The latin and so-called hebrew way of pronouncing the name is what's relevant here, to wit "hesus/yeshua". Of course, those who speak spanish say "hesus".
The greeks and later romans took one of the forms of the God Heru from ancient Kamit and corrupted His name into 'hesus'. The form of the hawk-headed Deity Heru that they corrupted was that of "Khensu".
"Khensu" is often written "Khons" or "Khonsu". This is as misleading as writing the name of God, 'Amen' as 'Ammon' or 'Amon'. This was done by the white egyptologists and others in order to conceal the fact that 'Amen/Amin' in
christianity/hebrewism/islam comes from the God Amon (Amon Ra). The same goes for writing "Khensu" as "Khonsu".
The 'kh' metut/hieroglyphic symbol in the name is often interchangeable in the language of Kamit with the metut/symbol
for 'sh'. In the Twi (Akan) language we have the same sound and it is written "hy". In both languages (Kamit & AKan), the meaning is the same. The 'kh' in Khensu, is pronounced similarly. 'Khensu' thus becomes 'Shensu', 'Tchensu', 'Jensu', 'Yeshu', 'Hesu-s' in greek. The 'n' in the name is nasal, as it is in Twi.
"Khensu" is a hawk-headed Divinity, and as a form of Heru, He is the son of Auset and Ausar. Does His name indicate this? Yes. "Kh" or "Khi" in the language of Kamit means "child". "Nsu" (nesu) means "Divine, royal, King, King of Southern Kamit". 'Nsu' is the title of the King (Per aa, Pharoah). It is the first part of 'Nesubat' (nsubat), meaning "king of the south and north". Kh-nsu, Khi-nsu, thus means "Divine royal child". 'Heru' or 'Khensu Heru' is the Divine royal child born of Auset and Ausar. He was born to become King.
The westerns and their offspring used the descriptive title of the God Heru (Khensu) and corrupted it into "Khensus, Shensus, Shesu, Yeshu, Hesus", and in english 'jesus'. You must hear the pronunciations of 'Khensu' (Tchensu--Tchay-nsoo) and 'Yeshu' (Jay/Yay-soo) and 'Hesus' (Hay-soos) together, and you will see the connection. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 8:02 PM
The Holy Bible
"Bible" comes from Byblos,Pyplus/Pyprus---Papyrus. "Holy" comes from Helios. Who is Helios? The greek corruption of "Ra". Holy bible = "Helios Papyrus". Or, Papers/Papyrus/Book of Ra. Plagiarisms.
What is a Jew?
The title Jew is really a misnomer. Judah is a corruption of a title of Tehuti
(Djehuty/Djahuti/Jahuty/Jahuteh/Jahutah/Judah). It is this corruption that was used to create the title Judah, Judeans (greek: Ioudians) from which "jew" is derived.
The important thing is that the title of Tehuti that was corrupted from Aprehui or Uprehui into Ibrahuim/Ibrahim/Abraham was also corrupted by the whites and their offspring from Aprehu to Ebrehu, Ebreu, Hebreu, Hebrew. Of course, there was no person name "Eber" from whom the "Hebrews" are descendant. Eber is a fictional character, the name being a corruption of Aprehui.
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I didn't even go into the fact that every December 25 (after the solstice) God's Sun (son) is born. The sun hangs on the cross (intersection of the equator and the ecliptic) near "easter" and then ascends into heaven (highest arc in the sky) at the summer solstice.
You can watch the entire story of 'jesus' play out every year by watching the movements of the sun. The story also plays out in the lunar phases, in your physical body and in the divisions of your spirit that are governed by the different Divinities mentioned in the story.
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The Torah
The Torah is a corruption of "tua Ra". This is the title of many compositions of ancient Kamit. For example, "tua" means "worship, adoration". "Tua Ra" means the "Worship/Adoration of Ra". Hence, Torah.
The Quran/Koran
"Khu" is our ancient word for illumination, intelligence, wisdom, the intelligent aspect of the spirit. The Ancestral Spirits are thus called "Aakhu" or the "intelligent" or "shining/illuminated ones". The bird that represents Divine wisdom and is a determinative for "khu" (intelligence, wisdom) is a bird connected with the God of Wisdom, Tehuti.
"Khu Ra" is thus the "Wisdom of Ra". Now we know why the muslims call the "qu-ran/quran" (khu-ra) the "book of wisdom". "Khu-ra" was corrupted in "qu-ran/quran".
*Please see Link for the interpretations of the rest people.tribe.net/chaz/blog...8f1bde44ea
Moses - Fictional Character
Yahweh - Fictional Character
David - Fictional Character
Abraham - Fictional Character
Isaac & Ishmael - Fictional Characters
Solomon - Fictional Character
Allah - Fictional Character
Muhammad - Fictional Character
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 9:47 PM
by GERALD MASSEY
It maY have been a Million years ago
The Light was kindled in the Old Dark Land
With which the illumined Scrolls are all aglow,
That Egypt gave us with her mummied hand :
This was the secret of that subtle smile
Inscrutable upon the Sphinx's face,
Now told from sea to sea, from isle to isle ;
The revelation of the Old Dark Race ;
Theirs was the wisdom of the Bee and Bird,
Ant, Tortoise, Beaver, working human-wise ;
The ancient darkness spake with Egypt's Word ;
Hers was the primal message of the skies:
The Heavens are telling nightly of her glory,
And for all time Earth echoes her great story.
>"so what are you really saying GS?"<
Thank you Taryn,
it sure wasn't supposed to be about religion or the Jews, Christianity, and the bible, but i think its important esp. when we find the the bibles (and kmt's) astrological parables
Point of Contention
KMT (Ancient Metaphysical Egypt)
Everything we thought we knew about the World, Religion, History, Science, Politics, and yes even Astrology has been a lie.
all of it So much so that i can hardly contain it, and not only that, it's based on the oppression and the suppression of the Black African race
and the removed the female principle... even the pagan goddesses is authored by men
"We must be a better, aware, awake, spiritually people and process a higher consciousness than those who have stolen our history and birthright and have removed our true history from the universe."
KMT is not so much a land or a people but a spiritual cultivation - the real Tree of Life, MA'At and the Book of the Living
most don't have the true understanding of Egypt, most all have deciphered her wrong and most have may gods and goddesses out of her
or some crazy scary religion who worshiped the dead etc ...The Gods and Goddesses are all within us - so is the Christ consciousness (Heru is LEO) This is all cosmology - i would not have recognized it had I not been an astrologer. All my life I knew the Zodiac was so much more - it's the science to life - but again many of us peg one person as "this" or one person as "that" ... "or I don't like Gemini'" something like that - or does my Venus go with his Mars etc ...which is all good fun and fine but, we have to see the whole chart instead of just it's parts and our relationships to them, within ourselves, these are intuitive tools not objects floating through space controlling our daily lives and though at times it seems like that, we are really make our own way - it takes away our Gnosis with fear and a fate based on someones interpretation ...No don't get me wrong I love Astrology and I very much seem like my chart but we just need to get better archetypes of a higher nature and know the true purpose of this great art - it's supposed to uplift us not damn us - there are no so called negative aspects
One of the "so called original sins" is when we turned our inward attention outward---
when we began to look for God in Religion in the Earth, above the earth; in others, for Ego; approval, recognition, acceptance and permission
Our initial soulful pain commenced when we jumped out of our bodies into our minds, when we started to try to figure things out instead of listen to our intuitive, instinctual guidance.
The zero point is when we rejected ourselves and disconnected from our spiritualism of our own heart and inner feelings. Societal rejection and its the root cause of our conflict and suffering.
God self-rejection began with the Earth religions when we were very young (around the 3rd century). The healing of our inner humanity takes place as we recognize when and how we cut ourselves off from our intuitive selves and then energetically reconnect to our deepest emotions.
This is an organic process whereby we actually access our wounds as feelings as a world
Our goal is universal therapy to uncover the reoccurring patterns and underlying belief structures about ourselves, others and the world that lock us into recreating the same dysfunctional scenarios in our lives. These scenarios play themselves out over and over until they get our attention, then we realize what we are doing, understand why, and choose to change.
Transformational change happens when we (1) identify what caused us to turn our attention outward, (2) take responsibility for what happened, (3) forgive ourselves and others, and (4) actually alter our beliefs, attitudes and behavior. Sociality-soul integration takes place as we redirect our attention towards inner selves and establish an energetic relationship with our intuitive, emotional and feelings selves
"apocalypse " is when we come home to ourselves and
fill our inner void with our own self-love….and then bring it forward
This has been given to you for a reason.
Open your hearts to‑embrace the pull of the Universal tide. The bridge has been built. Now is the time for us to cross into the next dimension of Togetherness that the New Age has brought.
Don't fight what you can feel.
Every One of Us is truly a divine creation, each is unique in nature, the result of a spark from the Fire in the heart of God. The Age of Aquarius is truly here. This is a time for our self‑identity to be revealed. We are all divine beings.
After 26,000 years, as enough of Humanity reaches this realization, an effect is created on all human beings. The Force of Truth is pressing on us. The Force has cracked the dam, which restrains Human consciousness and has allowed an unstoppable flowing energy to be released.
This Force of Truth is gaining more momentum every day, as more people feel it's effects.
Don't fight the flow. Let it carry you to our true destiny, Unity.
The illusion of separateness is the dam that blocks the stream of consciousness. Overcome the illusion; expand your circle of compassion.
Love One Another
As the circle expands, our collective consciousness grows, bringing us to ever-higher realizations of divinity.
As we are individually aligned with our true nature, the whole of humanity is strengthened, By focusing on your own development you serve all of humanity.
The New World is Inside You.
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 1:11 AMSirius,
the most amazing thing just happen ...i looked at your chart (and we're not even close to the same age)
Our charts are almost exactly the same, i mean this is insane
we have same rising sign, same sun sign and house placement, same moon sign and house placement , same Venus and Mercury
sign and house placements same ruling planet Pluto sign and house placement ...yet you have mars in the 9th, i have Jupiter
this is beyond mere coincidence, I believe this is the Divine revealing itself ...there is, of course, lots of differences but I've never
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 10:26 AMUsing his own words, God Star is straight and to the point.
Without the verbiosity, cut and paste, and multiple links, we might have a better idea of what you are saying.
Try this approach on your subject matter.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 10:45 AMI agree with Edward. When writing in your own words, GodStar, your message is clear. All the verbiosity, cut and paste, and multiple links, only obscures the signal. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:30 AMlooks like a flood...
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 6:27 PM"Sherpa you're way out of control and acting like an Ego maniac ;-P
you can't even admit when you're wrong, which is most of the time..."
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 12:11 PMI know, haha. With the little bit of information you gave me, I cast a birth chart for you last night.
Since I dont have your birth city, I used San Fran as a reference. I was born in San Diego, so I know Scorpio rising starts around 7pm for me.
I am sure the time is off a bit but I cast yours for April 29, 1967 at 7:15 pm.
Your Sun / North Node is Conjunct my 7th house Sun, which is a highly active part of my chart. It is a Major player in my Kite formation with my Neptune / Ascendant acting as the focal planet.
Your 8th house Venus, is conjunct my 8th house Venus (Sorry man, your just not my type) Lol
Your Saturn is pretty much unaspected in the 5th (Did you perhaps never know your father? The Father wishes for you to get to know Him) It is close to my Mercury / South Node and forms a T-square to my third house Saturn and my 9th house Mars. I figured that spot was activated before I even saw your chart.
You have Mars opposition Mercury, and I have Mars square Mercury, so debates are nothing new to me either.
Your Moon in Cappy is less than 5º from my Moon, both are opposite your Jupiter, and sextile to my Jupiter.
From this chart, your Vertex is conjunct my Vertex, which shows destined meetings.
There is other synastry, which I wont go into, with the pattern in my chart I have dynamic synastry with alot of people, and even have the Grand Sextile / Star of David formation with a few that I have seen. But I have also seen that I act as a catalyst for transformation in many.
It grieves me to hear people say that "Christianity" has killed alot of people in the past through inquisitions and such. Those that did such things, usung His name never knew him. Yeshua (Jesus) taught us to love our "enemies". You don't do that through a two by four along side the head or through a sword. James and John were not received in a village and said "shall we call fire down from heaven and consume them? Jesus rebuked them and said "You know not what manner of spirit you are. The Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. In another place he told Peter to put up his sword because all that live by the sword shall die by the sword.
There are many other places where it is clearly shown. The prince of darkness is able to move carnal people to sway the ignorant masses who do not know the Word.In the oast, certain greedy people would also dress up as Indians and kill people. Inciting even more hostility. Darkness knows well the old "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" strategy.
As far as race goes, Paul said in Athens that we were all made of one blood. God said to Samuel, in I Samuel 16:7, "for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart." So race should never be an issue, it is just the clay that you have on now.
I do know the authenticity of the Bible, I know it better than anything else that I have studied in the world. It is archelogically, historically, and prophetically proven to be fact. www.answersingenesis.org/artic...-bible
But aside from that, on a personal level, I know it to be spiritually proven as well, As I have seen it in action. Having lived it, and seen its power in manifestation. I have read throughout it many times, and the more I read, the more I see that I never saw before, in a deeper, higher way. It is the neverending book. I know without a doubt.
The Bible was written by over 40 authors who came from just about every walk of life conceivable, including fisherman, kings, a butler, priests, and a tax collector. The 66 books of the Bible were written over a 1,500 year span in three languages on three continents with one theme and no contradictions. That is because, though there were many writers, they were all inspired by One Author, the Holy Spirit of the Living God. Pride is what usually clouds people from being able to see the truth.
My Neptune Ascendant is opposite the Sun in the Kite formation. The key is the balance for the dissolvement of the ego. I have learned that its "not all about me". Once "I" get out of the way, God is able to reflect his light and shine through me, as the Sun opposition Neptune is like a full Moon. As a matter of fact, my progressed Moon is conjunct that point right now, receiving a sextile to natal, as well as transiting Pluto and Saturn, activating the Kite even more.
I consider myself just a glove, it is the hand which animates it and uses it for its purpose. The glove in itself is nothing. Talk to the hand. Lol
If I considered myself to be great and wonderful, it would be taken away, and I know that without Him I am nothing.
If you look at sabian symbols, the one for my Sun is : A Christmas tree, bending with its weight of gifts, is illumined at the end of a vast darkened hall.
To me it shows to be a light in the midst of vast darkness. I have been given many gifts, which are meant to be shared with others, as there is an endless supply. I can offer you a gift, but unless you receive it, and open it, it will do you no good. It is up to you and will not be forced, but the Light becons you.
Touching reincarnation, it doesn't matter one way or another if you beleive it or not. It does not affect your salvation either way. I personally don't believe it, but I do believe that we were in His presence, and or given tutors before He placed us here, for whatever reason.
The thing that alarms me about reincarnation beliefs is that it can bring visions of grandeur to a person, affecting their pride. Also those haing suicidal thoughts figure that if they end it now, they can just start afresh and be born at a different time, under different circumstances and put an end to their problems. What alarms me the most is, that when the one world relegion comes about, the false prophet will be able to sway many, especially after they see fire called down from heaven, miracles, and a sense of false peace to the world.
He will be able to justify the slaughtering of many by reasoning to the masses that "we" are inhibiting the rest of the world from reaching their potental and are keeping the world from reaching a higher vibrational level. Therefore, It would be an act of "love" to round us up and to mercifully put us to death so that we can be reincarnated into the new world of peace that he is creating. It will happen, but I feel sorry for those that will fall into this trap.
What it boils down to though, is who is Jesus. And I am speaking of the Biblical Jesus. We all know that he came, even Jewish scholars and historians will attest to that: www.godandscience.org/apologe...toricity So it is not even an arguable discussion He was either the biggest lunatic that ever live, or he was who He said He was, the I AM, the Creator of the Universe. It is up for you to judge, but it is better to meet the Judge now, rather than later.
You are right when you say it isn't about denominations. I feel that it just causes division and believers are all part of that One body. (Hebrews 12:23)
Somewhere along the way you took a wrong turn, being swayed by dissinformation and those that know not true love. You are at the crossroad, I am sent before you to point you back to the True Way, the correct path that you were meant to walk. You somehow missed the big "Danger!" sign. Maybe you were expecting a big light to shine from heaven, but many times you will find that God uses people as instruments.
Saul was heading to Damascus to find believers and bring judgement to them, thinking he was doing the work of God. On the road there, about noontime, He met a light many times brighter than the Sun and became blinded. He was face to face with Jesus. God can take one that fights against Him so hard and make him into something much better than he will ever be otherwise. That is what he did when he changed Saul, who is known as Paul, which wrote a great portion of the New Testament.
You can continue to be blinded, or allow the light to open your eyes and transform you.
I did pray for you last night when I was casting your chart. Thinking back on it this morning this scripture came to my head:
Luke 22:31-32
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
It is up to you, choose Light, or darkness. But just don't come to the end and say you never knew, or that He never put out His hand to reach you.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:31 PM
Sirius,
I'm glad your found something to be passionate about; the bible, Christianity, and it's historical origins
it amazes me as what seems so clear to me that others are unable to see or even look at -
and I'll have to admit it's very hard looking at those links and taking them seriously.
I remember all the contradictions and confusions around the word and the godspells - leaving it up to others interpretations
I knew the spirit of God was real but no of this made any sense until i discovered the Gnostics, the black Hebrews, and ancient Egyptian and African myths and cosmology... then it all fell into place.
I'm just glad that you have found something that aligns in your heart - and don't get me wrong i too pray that i am guided and directed
by Divine
you give me proof directly sourced from the bible itself? that's no proof and what is there is just more western confusion and names changes to fit their culture - over and over again i can point out the origins of where that got this information - it's plagiarism
believe me I've read more than you can ever imagine
So where's the proof? What are the names of those writers? where are the actual documents and who wrote the manuscripts? how was this information gathered?
i'm a professional (AIRS) Researcher w/ definite and proven validated information or at least pronounced competent theories.
i challenge any one to refute my sources
You can placed the Inquisition right alongside the African Transatlantic Holocaust, along with the Jewish one, and other unspeakable horrors attributed to religious and racial intolerance...
it killed more than any plague any or war put together.
those you work for are less interested in digging for truth than in diffusing the criticism of the Church and their Racist evil pagan partners
they have glossed over incontrovertible facts and tried to whitewash the Inquisition.
This is a disservice to the truth...
Those like you (who may have well-intentions) are perhaps misguided - i'm not sure if you're able to take an objective look at it it's like your caught up just like me.
Christian and Spanish inquisitions; The Inquisitions was simply the most diabolical institution ever created by humanity, and the state was for the most part merely its tool. it’s estimated that more people were killed and tortured than any other time in history. 30 million to 40 million innocent people (black people: Jews, Muslims, Africans ) were forced to convert to Christianity this lasted for 600 years
www.rotten.com/library/hi...nquisition/
>"Those that did such things, usung His name never knew him. Yeshua (Jesus) taught us to love our "enemies". You don't do that through a two by four along side the head or through a sword."<
"And yet, Jesus did get angry. The most familiar story of Jesus becoming angry was in the temple when he flew into a rage and overturned the money tables. Most of us would like to think of that incident as an aberration to his character. Or at least hear that story as an isolated event. But if we study Mark closely, we see that Jesus was often angered by events, questions and requests coming from his disciples, his followers and the religious leaders of his day."
The Bible shows us in both the Old and New Testaments that our God of love is also capable of violence, retribution, and vengeance. Force is never condemned in the Scriptures – only the misuse of force. Love and force are not incompatible in the mind of God, neither are justice and force. In each situation they are only opposite sides of the same coin. Religious humanism has put all the emphasis on the side of love and pacifism,
But the same Jesus elsewhere acknowledges the legitimate use of force, telling the apostles, "let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one" (Luke 22:36). How are these passages to be reconciled?
St. Paul (Rom 13:3-4) stated: "princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil.... He beareth not the sword in vain: for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil";
Jesus taught, "Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword." (Matt 10:34). -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:47 PM
Sirius, doesn't the bible condone using and practicing Astrology?
do you live according to the bible or do you just adhere to the scriptures that suit you at the time?
now you tell me if this is the voice of love or the voice of darkness, violence, and retribution?
Bible on Astrology
The Bible does go into great detail about astrology, and it certainly makes its position clear. We should never trust in astrological beliefs or predictions. Astrology is an ancient, heathen practice that leads to disaster. Our lives are not determined by the stars or movement of planets. The Bible warns against the false predictions of astrology (Jeremiah 10:2; 27:9-10; Daniel 2:1-4; 4:7; 5:7-9) and repeatedly condemns the associated practice of worshipping the sun, moon and stars (or “deities or demons associated with them”) (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:2-5; 2 Kings 21:3, 5; Zephaniah 1:5; Job 31:26-28; Jeremiah 8:1-2).
In Isaiah, God sarcastically rebukes Israel for practicing astrology,
"For you have trusted in your wickedness… Therefore evil shall come upon you… trouble shall fall upon you… Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, And the monthly prognosticators stand up and save you from what shall come upon you. Behold, they shall be as stubble, The fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame… -Isaiah 47:10-14a
Warnings about astrology
And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven (Deuteronomy 4:19).
... and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky (Deuteronomy 17:3).
All the counsel you have received has only worn you out! Let your astrologers come forward, those stargazers who make predictions month by month, let them save you from what is coming upon you. Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up. They cannot even save themselves from the power of the flame. Here are no coals to warm anyone; here is no fire to sit by. That is all they can do for you—these you have labored with and trafficked with since childhood. Each of them goes on in his error; there is not one that can save you (Isaiah 47:13-15).
Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel.This is what the LORD says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them" (Jeremiah 10:1-2).
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 12:32 AMI have to leave for work or I would answer more, bur for now here is a thread where I answered your question on astrology
astronuts.tribe.net/thread/b...eba34c035
I am also here to be able to attempt to reach others like you and I look at it this way:
Luke 7:33-35
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!
35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 6:48 AMConcerning the scriptures you pointed out on the word "sword", if you had actually done a word study on sword you would have the answer to your question.
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God
2 Cor 10:3-4 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
There are more, but this should suffice you. Knowledge, unless mixed with wisdom, is dangerous. Forcing someone to believe is never taught in the scripture. Unless it comes from the heart it is meaningless. That is why it says confess with your mouth AND believe in your heart.
I have seen the power of the Word. At more than one occasion I have had people come up to me and say that they were going to cut me up and slice me into many pieces. A scripture came to me that I spoke out to them. I saw them fall backwords and their whole countenance changed and they all of a sudden became a different, friendly person. There are many, many more instances I have seen the power of the Word, because it is spirit and unless mixed with faith you will never know. It is not the word of man, but in fact, the Word of the Living God.
I do not believe pacifism (or nonresistance) is the essential point of Christ’s teaching in Matthew 5:38-42. Nor do I believe Christ was teaching to “turn the other cheek” in virtually all circumstances. Even Christ did not literally turn the other cheek when smitten by a member of the Sanhedrin (John 18:22-23).
When it comes to my personal faith, I do have scars on my face from turning the other cheek to Samoan drug dealers, and others. Though I have plenty of experience and knowledge in martial affairs, I just turned around and blessed them, with God's help.
But when it comes to protecting the helpless and the innocent, it is another matter
It is one of the greatest examples of human love. Christ said, “Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends” (John 15:14). When protecting one’s family or neighbor, a person is unselfishly risking his or her life for the sake of others.
What if a bully is picking on little girl? If I desert her to the bully, I have deserted the true meaning of love — responsibility to my neighbor.
I have stood in the middle of people before to protect another.
To permit murder when one could have prevented it is morally wrong. To allow a rape when one could have hindered it is an evil. To watch an act of cruelty to children without trying to intervene is morally inexcusable. In brief, not resisting evil is an evil of omission, and an evil of omission can be just as evil as an evil of commission. Any man who refuses to protect his wife and children against a violent intruder fails them morally.
You have to examine your motives, motives are everything.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 6:58 AMI do find your phraseology and investigative methods quite laughable, to put it kindly.
Your supposed archeologist and egyptologist , Gerald Massey, who you hold in high regard, has some interesting information about him here: www.tektonics.org/harpur01.html
But if everyone reads nothing else, please look at least at the last 9 paragraphs in this website. You will find it quite amusing as to the manner of thinking and reasoning that Dogstar is using. It is quite a laughingstock to those of us who know languages and linguistics.
Matt 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Here is a rope Dogstar, pull yourself out of the ditch or be buried in it. The hand is still stretched out to help.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 8:50 AM
You give me scripture as your proof? Again the bible contradicts itself over and over, why, because they never really understood the original Egyptian meaning of things when they STOLE IT yet THEY Copied and Pasted any way and mixed it all up into some SIC pagan conception
who in gods names drinks the blood of Christ and eats his body and flesh???
what is now know as the King James version wtf does
King James know about the middle east -AFRICA? they know nothing
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." -
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:09 AM
I tried being nice...i really did
TO ALL OF THOSE IN THIS TRIBE who wrote derogatory remarks about me, KMT, and our original people, I know you are AFRAID.
This is why i am here. This is why you want to put in words to discourage my efforts. Your numbers are dwindling to nothing, you have effectively ensured your end by depleting the ozone. The End of Western Civilization is near and you can see it. Babylon will fall. If you think about it, spiritually, they (them not You) are the equivalent of the devil.
Raping the earth, polluting the air, destroying animal species not because it was needed but because it was wanted. You call that civilized. Isn’t circumcision sexual mutalation? Would you call the murdering of Millions of people Christlike? killing thousands of my people on death row every year civilized and caging innocent people civilized? They think they’re more civilized because they don’t have to see the people they kill?
today people are Christian because they put a gun to our heads or tortured us or beat us - shame on you for this sham
this may break your heart but its time to wake up from this nightmare and get real ...a white blue eyed jesus???
How about the sanctions on Iraq and the bombs that kills millions of man, women and children. Death by starvation of Africa by the millions to appease their unlimited want. Are they great because they stole land and had others build the nation they now benefit from? Are they great because they build weapons of mass destruction? Or maybe because they’ve caused diseases that are unknown to many and tested them in Africa
As long as they can say that the Egyptians were “dark whites” they will always maintain the false idea of racial superiority with which they have fooled so many people. And yes they have fooled many people. The evidence that was presented clearly indicates that the people of the Bible and the Ancient Egyptians were black (GET OVER IT).
Lastly, ever heard of the saying that says you must love yourself before you can love someone else. Well, we (I know I) don’t teach hate, I teach love. If this world were not turned into a world filled with so many lies of religion science and the conditioning of the masses and racism (media programing so-called intellectuals sending my brothers to jail) where a group of people are forcefully subjugated socially and worse psychologically, for the the economic benefit of another, we could just go on and focus on the betterment of human kind. Right now it is one step at a time. Everyone needs acknowledge their debt to our ancestors and the original people of this earth.
The pope needs to stand up in front of the world and tell the people its all been a lie
This is where we are going. Believe me the process has begun and it won’t be long now. All the efforts to downplay the facts are doing nothing but prolonging the inevitable!
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 6:05 PMG and B rhyme, you know.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:16 AM
Matt 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God
2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction
John 6:47-52
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
48 I am that bread of life.
49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
It is through faith, all of your works are meaningless, you allready screwed up and no matter how many times you think that you will be reincarnated, you will never give it right. God knows that, that is why Jesus shares His righteousness with you. Religion is your futile attempt for perfection and your wisdom is in vain
1 Cor 3:19-20 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:21 AM"TO ALL OF THOSE IN THIS TRIBE who wrote derogatory remarks about me, KMT, and our original people, I know you are AFRAID. "
ROFL, that is the sillyest thing I have ever heard!
2 Tim 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
You might also explain to me , if they were all black, why did Miriam and AAron come down on Moses fro marrying an Ethiopion woman?
Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:57 AMAlso, along your line of reasoning-
Kahuna in Hawaiian means priest. Cohen in Hebrew means priest.
Notice the similarity? Therefore, the Jews must have stolen it from the Hawaiians. We must take it back!!!
Also, congregation. Con - Greg - ation. Oh my gosh, there is my name in the midst of the congregation!!! It must be all about me!
Therefore we conclude, that the congregation must worship me! ROFL
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:03 PMI don't like the KMT culty-thing and I am not afraid of it
I am not white and I am not afraid of it nor do I believe in any of it
except for I think there is truth in some of the things it co-opted from other religions
I deleted a big tangent here.....
why not mention a few of your ideas in your words and give a link to the site where you have already posted all this or very similar things
your postings are not much different from each other and those who are interested will come seek it out
providing you with a reflection of what you are calling in
I won't come back to this post
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:06 PMbefore I go I want to acknowledge that there are some useful things to think about in godstars postings
for me it's buried too much under culty-thing
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 4:45 PM
Thank you Rose,
Well, we're all our entitled to our own opinions, and that's just what yours is, but what is yours based on? Have you done the work? Do you have the experience and who or what are your resources?
Have you inquired about any of this with me?
There is no "culty stuff" unless you mean by the real meaning of the word Culture and Cultivation - perhaps this is how it has come to you in the past or by way of some African pagan religious source etc...
People discount things on which they know nothing about, perhaps they see that it shuns some of their addictions so they try to discredit it or me - then they brush it off - and yet they know very little about it, except for perhaps a few glances of of my articles and a few authors.
And there's nothing actually to believe in, African were the first in everything - PERIOD. We invented Science, Mathematics, Astrology, Myth, Language, Numbers, Philosophy, and Religion etc
Sure you're afraid, that is why you're AGAIN scurrying off up out of here with your hit and run, touch-and -go antics, that's how you played me out last time in my tribe...my first thought then was to react, be i just chilled and mossied off gracefully, Tribe's most wanted Sheba -hawk,
But now you trying to come to others about me is this public forum and speak of me in second person and somehow try to discredit me and KMT to some 5,000 members? in a topic that you know very little about, just because i had a difference of opinion from you about relationships?
>"Some of my post" my "postings are not much different from each other" "culty-thing" and "co-opted from other religions"<
what religions? KMT was before there was anything called religion
and who told you you Weren't white?
walking that path - its got a hold of you
-say it NOW I'm black and I'm proud-
do you think these do not have consequences?
KMT IS, no matter if we believe it or not
I have nothing to sell and nothing to gain... the only KMT is the one you bring
no "culty stuff" only "ancient analogies" (though I'm sure at times those can seem creepy if misunderstood)
-yet we don't need them-
"no Religion, don't believe in modern man nor your modern love"
I've heard the same thing when I offer insight with Astrology to others who think its witch-crafty or something they need to calculate or let every movement of the moon and stars dictate their life ...
KMT say's listen to your heart, not me, divine laid this out, not Man not Africans there is no religion, there is nothing to believe in...the tree of life is you - find it within yourself.
of course my delivery is bad and i cut and paste like crazy - this is only to catalog these articles for my reference and to offer them as resources for "googlers" or other Internet searchers about our great ancient heritage, culture, and the greatest metaphysical secrets Never told.
I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING THE TRUTH - AND I WILL DELIVERY IT THE WAY DIVINE INSTRUCTS ME
out of respect for all of the people I will adhere to your request and be more quiescent on the length I post in your threads, BUT I will not stop what I'm here to do - even if that means that i post a few paragraphs and a link
you people go back and forth all day all year - same of errors
it's really hard to look at
I will not appease the same people who are trying to subjugate these truths of our heritage and the great metaphysical mystery systems, there are many who would like to continue living the lie, many to try to strong hold me and discredit me, our resources - But I am strong and this is why it was giving to me - I will not be deterred or persuaded against nor defeated.
*People learn how to read instead of thinking you have all the answers already
if it doesn't interest you walk on by - don't call me a lier unless you have something to back it up with... i can be as good as the best or as bad as the worst so don't test me
I hope the tone of this message is coming off correctly - i am not upset, and it does not bother me to be challenged
but nether will not be ridiculed or called a troll with out a fight - and yes Love can fight, this is my first post in this tribe in years
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 1:20 AMNope. It's all about my bf, Greg Ryan.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 6:12 PM>>Notice the similarity? Therefore, the Jews must have stolen it from the Hawaiians. We must take it back!!! <<
evolution instead of theft
kahuna maybe an evolution of cohen
(some believe that the first wave of humanity that populated the main hawaiian islands is the lost 13th tribe that lived in peace and prosperity with one another and their environment until the second wave of tahitians arrived in the islands a thousand years later)
is cohen an evolution of the original egyptian word for 'priest'? (do you know chaz?)
(side note: the hawaiian word for sun is 'lā' , originally 'rā until r's were replaced with l's)
www.wehewehe.org/gsdl2.5/cgi-bin/hdict
www.wehewehe.org
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:14 PM
great job! ॐarboloco...my power forward ;-)
Yes! the first Hawaiians were Africans...and whom the natives are descendants of
Tehuti (which was turned into Jew - (Maa kher/Maashe/Moshe) is given a helper. Anan (Ah- nahn) was corrupted into Aa-Rahn or Aaron, the fictional assistant to the fictional Moshe/moses. When you see the depiction of Tehuti sitting in a sacred barque with the baboon Anan next to Him, you are viewing Maakher and Anan (Moshe and Aaron/Moses and Aaron).
Jewish surname indicating priestly descent, from Heb. kohen "priest," from base of kihen "he acted as priest," rel.
o *kahana* "he divined, prophesied."
kohen (priest - descendant of Aaron)
In the Bible, Aaron (אַהֲרֹן), or Aaron the Levite, is the brother of Moses, . He was the great-grandson of Levi (Ex. 6:16-20) and represented the priestly functions of his tribe, becoming the first High Priest of the Hebrews. While Moses was receiving his education at the Egyptian royal court and during his exile among the Midianites, Aaron and his sister remained with their kinsmen in the eastern border-land of Egypt (Goshen). He there gained a name for eloquent and persuasive speech; so that when the time came for the demand upon the Pharaoh to release Israel from captivity, Aaron became his brother’s "nabi", or spokesman, to his own people (Ex. 4:16) and, after their unwillingness to hear, to the Pharaoh himself (Ex. 7:9). He is said to have flourished about 1200 BC (traditionally 1597 BC)\
members of an ancient institution, known as the Cohanim, the Jewish priesthood. The Cohanim predate rabbis, and trace their origins back 3,300 years to the first high priest or Cohen, Aaron. the older brother of Moses.
Beginning with Aaron, priestly status has been passed down through the ages, from fathers to sons through word of mouth. To this day, all the Cohanim are seen as descendants of Aaron, not just figuratively but by blood. Many. but not all, have the surname Cohen, Kohen, Cohn, Kohn, Cone, Kone, Cahn, Kahn or Kahane. (Cohen In Hebrew means priest.) But not everyone with one of those names is necessarily one of the Cohanim.
The Torah (the first five books of the Bible) describes the anointing of Aaron, the brother of Moses, as the first High Priest (Cohen).
Jewish tradition, based on the Torah, is that all Cohanim are direct descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses.
which mean this religion and the first high priest were Kemetic
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:12 PM
ॐarboloco,
"i know no-thing"
you sure do - you set that off, this man is spirit filled, i just went with it ...thank you ;-)
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:34 PM
"Also, along your line of reasoning-Kahuna in Hawaiian means priest. Cohen in Hebrew means priest.
Notice the similarity? Therefore, the Jews must have stolen it from the Hawaiians. We must take it back!!!"
YES! Sirius, now you're getting it, when your the root of civilization everything always comes right back to you ((haha)
the language for me is minor though actually it is major ...that's the metaphysics of Ancient Egypt and word origins
words have power that which is of a name is of that nature language is much deeper than we think - the sounds of god
hieroglyphics are the metaphysical roots and connections to all language.... coincidence i think not
The word ‘Egypt’ is of Greek origin derived from Aegypt-os Aegyptos, itself derived from Coptic hi(t)-ka(u)-ptah, "the house/temple of the ka of Ptah"). Hence, Hat-Ptah-Ka, becomes A-futah-ka. (afuraka). Hat-Ptah-Ka and Afuraka AFRICA have the same meaning cosmologically.
Kemetic Terms Use (check out site for Key -very good see the connections)
tribes.tribe.net/kmt/threa...079470bd38
. Egypt was formerly known as the ‘Land of Ham’ (Kham).(Psalms 78:51 & 105:23) The ancient Egyptians called) their country Kemet or Chemi (Khemi) and themselves Kemmiu (= The Black people). In hieroglyphics Kemet was written without vowels as KMT (= The Black Land). KM means charred or coal black. It was the strongest term that denoted blackness and was represented by a block of wood charred on the end. There are some who steadfastly argue that this referred to the color of the earth of Egypt and doubt that it also described the color of ‘ethiopic’ people of that land.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:53 PM
Sirius,
great scriptures
"You have to examine your motives, motives are everything. "
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:10 AMI find it utterly fascinating that in on paragraph you will say that Moses, Abraham, Sarah, King David, and a host of other Biblical characters never existed and were fictional, and in another paragraph use them to support your false claims on geneology and ancestry.
I know the way that the forces of darkness work. They will feed you a little truth and then mix it with lies to plant the seed. Then come back and add more, in hopes that it will grow.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:57 AMGod is consciousness and the fusion into action and manifestation, the potential for all that is, out of ....itself -
i.e. dIVINE masterbastion into Love" -Dog Star
And all this came from that opening-hmm..
As for religions stealing from other religions -isn't more like that which is within a common thread of familarity .
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 5:44 AMYes! the first Hawaiians were Africans...and whom the natives are descendants of
The oldest human orgins are found in Africa -I had an anothropogist class once and the Professor showed us a film on DNA and there was a group in Africans that kept the same religious tenant as anohter Jewish sect -the only different was the age of circumcison . The two groups were very different looking but they knew the same traditions and had the same religious titles similar lanuage -so scientist did DNA testing and it was conclusive they were ancesters -The DNA testing wasn't flawed neither because the Jewish group kept to themselves and didn't marry outside of the close nit group and some did not marry. So you say the Hawians were Africans that is not a far stretch if it holds true over time that this is the oldest humans -I think even older than chinease orgins that was another option as for the oldest human orgin. I am sorry I don't have any more concrete details it has been nearly a decade since I had the class -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 6:03 AMThe Bible describes the creation of man as having occurred in the Mesopotamian plain, near the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
Genesis 2:10, 14 Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 6:24 AMSirius - So how often do people sneak up behind you and scream real loud . -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 6:44 AMI am aware of everything that goes on in my enviroment, so sneaking up would be difficult, and those that make loud noises do not effect me as I am used to people acting stupid. -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:04 AMSame here. Extreme Object/Ground discermnment is a very useful skill. Kept me from more than one mugging in the making.
"I am used to people acting stupid."
How do you know my children?
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:19 AMPaleoanthropologists say the first development of true man took place in Southeast Africa, about 50,000yrs ago, from whence they immediately moved out. They settled, forming the beginnings of what we call civilization, in and around modern Israel.
"The Bible describes the creation of man as having occurred in the Mesopotamian plain, near the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers."
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 9:37 AMOkay Thank You Edward -that adds icing to the grunt cake I was trying to push out.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 3:12 PMLettuce, I was born in San Diego, but you you will find no evidence of me there, especially since the hospital I was born in is no longer there.
You can find traces of me to where I have moved, in Oklahoma, Hawaii, and in Israel. And perhaps in other countries in the world.
Because they had their creation in the Mesopitanian area and the African area so far has found some traces, perhaps you didn't know that they were thrust out of the Garden of Eden to another area. That area is also known as the "cradle of civilization"
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:51 PM"that adds icing to the grunt cake I was trying to push out. "
"And the beat goes on, the beat goes on. . .keep sendin' rhythm to the brain."
(Sonny and Cher)
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Re: Beginnings: The Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Questions!
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 9:36 AM
Sirius my twin astro bother - i am of love and a light to candle truth (this is divines will)
remember we have to go backwards, yes, all of those are fictional, but they are realer in our lives then history - and line in us today,
they were attributions of god and lessons of the tree of life ...stay with me here
I will go into the Story of Ausar and Auset and Heru the original trinity, they too were fictional, but realer than History they are Futuroy they are our presence
the lineage of Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie also goes back to Judah and all the wailing of reggae artist such as bob marley
Haile Selassie was not the true and living god king but the lineage show are great heritage - Haile Selassie is the direct descendent of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba from biblical times... not that those are real people but they give a history of those people at that time
His Majesty's line was before Israel existed, even before Christ.
yet, our Majesty lies within, ... our inner guide who is the most exalted King, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, the conquering Lion (Leo) tribe of Judah,
Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origin." The Bible classifies the Ethiopians and Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian" and declares himself to be a "Jew." (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3) That the Jews got their language, religion and culture from the Canaanites and Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians. The original ancient Hebrew alphabet was identical to that of the Phoenicians. "Semitic languages" are really dialectical variants of African languages.
The word Semite is from semi which means half. Half what? Half BLACK! (mulatto!) Semite refers to the descendants of Shem, one of Noah's sons. The word originates from the Latin prefix semi which means half. "half Black and half white... therefore Black (since Black is genetically dominant)" points out Dr. Cress Welsing. Historian Cheikh Anta Diop also points out that the "Semitic" arises in the 4th millennia B.C. from crossbreeding between Black inhabitants of the holy land and white northern invaders.
While many Semites (such as Jews and gypsies) have mixed so much with whites that they've forgotten or deny their African roots, racism (white supremacy) will never let them forget this no matter how light-skinned they become, The very word gypsy means "out of Egypt."
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:39 PMSilly, silly, Dogstar, you are playing the "banana -fana- fofanna, fi-fie-fofanna" game again with languages.
Check wikipidia little buddy, you will see that semitic is derived from Shem, nowhere is semi entered into the mix. Another semantics game.
Better get you a new "inner guide" because he is truly lost and is to proud to ask for the right directions
Zeph 2:10-12 This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts.
11 The LORD will be terrible unto them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth; and men shall worship him, every one from his place, even all the isles of the heathen.
12 Ye Ethiopians also, ye shall be slain by my sword
You still seemed to overlook, or pass over the question that I put forth to you:
"You might also explain to me , if they were all black, why did Miriam and AAron come down on Moses fro marrying an Ethiopion woman?
Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman."
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:38 AM
wikipidia is the worst and many times corrupted
Maa kher Maashe Moshe Anan Ah-nahn Aa-Rahn Aaron
>"Miriam and AAron come down on Moses fro marrying an Ethiopion woman?"<
Yes and their challenge to Moses angered God, so as a punishment He made Miriam to become leprous, that is, white as snow. Once again, if Miriam, who was a Hebrew, was white to begin with, what would have been the curse of turning a white-skinned person white?
it is no small wonder that ACTS 7:22 in the Euro-Christian Holy Bible states that "Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians and was mighty in words and in deeds."
The Afrika-centered view categorically states that Moses was an original Afrikan (Black) man who was born in Afrika, spent most of his life there, then married an Ethiopian woman named Zipporah. They had two sons Gershom and Elieyer.
In regard to Moses' family, several members bear Egyptian names. Among them are Moses, Aaron, Hophni, Merari, Miriam, Putiel and Phinehas. Phinehas means the Nubian/Black. "There was a Nubian element in the family of Moses."
In Exodus 2:19, "Moses is identified as an Egyptian by the daughter of Jethro." Zipporah, Moses' wife was the Cushite daughter of Jethro.
Leprosy among the Hebrews and Snow White Miriam
In the fourteenth century B.C., plagues were endemic through the Middle East and Egypt. The Book of Numbers tells us that Miriam and Aaron, sister and brother to Moses, revolted against their brother’s leadership. Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because he had married an Ethiopian woman. And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only to Moses? Hath eh not spoken also by us?” Their challenge to Moses angered God. As a punishment “Miriam became leprous, white as snow”
Moses and Aaron didn't exist. Maakher/Tehuti and Anan are the two
attributions of god from which the fictional characters were manufactured.
Khensu Heru is the attrubute of Tree of Life from which the functions of the fictional jesus were manufactured. (The white iconography comes from serapis). There was no brotha walking around in Palestine two thousand years ago
telling people to turn the other cheek. Study Heru, Khensu, Khensu
Nefer Hetep Heru, how Khensu and Heru were identified with one
another. Study Auset, the title Merit. Study Ausar, Set, Nebt Het. Ba
Neb Tata (Tettet)....."
Ma asomdwoee-Hetep (Peace),
Moses - Fictional Character
The name Moses/Moshe is not derivative of the 'mes' title in the language of Kamit. Moses/Moshe is a purely fictional character. The life story of this fictional character was patterned after the knowledge of the God Tehuti. The title/function/name "maakheru" is the origion of the corruption 'moshe/moses'. Maakheru is very often written "maa kher". We must also recognize that the 'kh' metut is often translated and pronounced 'sh'. The 'r' is a rolling 'r' as in many of our Ancestral languages. Maa-kher thus becomes Maa-sher and later 'moshe/moses'.
The term maakher (maa-she) in Kamit, meaning "true of voice", one who "speaks/voices the divine law" exists in Twi as "mmarahye" (mmara-hye) pronounced (mmara or maa-sheh). In Twi, mmarahye is defined as "jurist" meaning "one who voices the law (mmara)". The term is often used hyemmara (to legislate). Tehuti is the Divine Spokesperson of Ra. He is the original Maa-kher (true of voice and word) Who has the ability to make others "maakher" or true of voice and word. Hence the beginning of the prayer "Es Tehuti s-maakheru Ausar er khefta f" "Hail Tehuti who makes Ausar maakher against His enemies"
The title moshe (Moses) was a title given to initiates all over Kamit, the reality of that statement is rooted in the fact that when one achieved a certain level of development in this life (and after death) they were given the title "MAA KHER" (Maa-she). In the "Book of the Cow of Heaven" (The Destruction of Mankind) Ra asks Tehuti to "Come with me to the mountainous region" where men and women would not see them (Ra and Tehuti). Ra takes on the form of a God of Light and is thus called "Ra Aakhu".
1. Tehuti (Maa Kher/Maa she/Moshe) goes on the mountain to see the God of Light (burning bush).
2. Ra directs Tehuti to "write down what is in the spirit-world". Tehuti is givine the title An-Maat or "scribe of the Divine Law".
3. Tehuti (Maa kher/Maashe/Moshe) is instructed to become the lawgiver (ten commandments inscribed in stone) Ra makes Tehuti His Deputy on Earth, and gives Tehuti an assistant. This assistant is the Divine baboon called "Anan".
4. Tehuti (Maa kher/Maashe/Moshe) is given a helper. Anan (Ah- nahn) was corrupted into Aa-Rahn or Aaron, the fictional assistant to the fictional Moshe/moses. When you see the depiction of Tehuti sitting in a sacred barque with the baboon Anan next to Him, you are viewing Maakher and Anan (Moshe and Aaron/Moses and Aaron).
5. Ra calls for the Divine Field (Sekhet Hetep) to be created for the followers of Tehuti and calls for Divine food (Aaru) to be placed in the Divine Field. Hence the name Sekhet Aaru.
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:40 AM
MOSES
The historical Moses in all probability may have been a dissident Kemetic priest named Osarsiph. The name Moses [which was never Hebrew in the first place] in Hebrew is MUSHEH/MOSHE. The biblical Moshe 1) as an infant is concealed in the river among the reeds in an ark of bulrushes to escape the massacre of male children by "Pharaoh" 2) he is found in the "sea of reeds" by the Pharaoh's daughter 3) he becomes a type of Hebrew saviour. This model would be later modified and applied to the Christ figure. For the time being we will lift part of the veil of Moses to show the deeper aspects overlooked by the religious "literalists".
Moses/Moshe was concealed and taken out of the river after the Pharaonic massacre of Hebrew children. The event itself was largely fiction, but analyses of the names show us the same links to ancient Kemetic theosophical thoughts. In Egyptian his name has two forms: MU-SHA and/or MU-SAH. MU - "sea" or "pool" and SHA - "reeds" so that our biblical Moses is literally the Sea of Reeds, a papyrus swamp, but allegorically a type of Heru/Horus who in his infancy was hidden in a papyrus swamp to conceal him from his enemies. Heru is a Kemetic saviour and so is Moses. SAH means, "to draw from" and, according to the bible, "Pharaoh's" daughter took Moses from the Nile and adopted him [a romanticised fiction since Egypt, like many other African cultures traced lineage through the woman. There was no way that the very powerful priesthood, particularly during that 18th Dynasty would have allowed the Pharaoh's daughter to adopt a foreigner and a commoner at that!].
Moses' brother is Aaron [Heb AHRN], high priest and fashioner of the Golden Calf when Moses was on the mountaintop. Note the allusion here to the ancient mountain-worship still observed by some African communities [though this was also found in the Babylonian concepts of Marduk]. In Egyptian AH means "bull" and REN means "child" or "calf", therefore, Aaron himself is the Golden Calf, the youthful Celestial Bull from the zodiacal Taurean Age whose mother was the cow-eared Great Mother Hathor [still revered by Hindus]. Because of the equinoctial Precession, by the time of the Exodus the transition from the Age of the Bull to the Age of the Lamb had occurred but remnants of the ancient regime still lingered. Scholars argue that Moses' anger was directed not to the image of the Calf but toward the teaching ascribed to this avatar whose time had passed.
Mount Sinai is where Moses allegedly got the famous 10 Commandments, although six of these were actually lifted out of the Kemetic Admonitions of Ma'at/Mwoera. Remember, the historical Moses was an actual Kemetic priest and so would have known these Declarations without having to go up on some mountain. Now while the actual location of this mountain is unknown the story of the Lord appearing wrapped in fire on the summit while Moses was receiving the Laws is rich with meaning. Sinai in Hebrew is SYNY and in the Hebrew's parent language, Egyptian, SY means, "stone" while NY means, "fire". It is here that the Hebrews first learn of their god's name, Yahweh. Now Yahweh [YHVH] comes from the Kemetic YAH-WAH, YAH - " the Moon deity as Thoth, Khonsu or Yusir and YAH - "to increase" or "to grow". Jehovah is therefore the Increasing Moon, the youthful male Moon growing into the New Moon. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:47 PMI won't go into your obvious errors on Moshe (Moses), but for one Sinai in Hebrew is samekh - yod - nun - yod which is pronounced as See-nah'-ee. סיני
The big error that I see you make is that you seem to think that English is a base language. It isn't, and it is a fairly new language. So to try and squeeze some sort of meaning into an ancient language using English is a major boo-boo.
Same thing when you try to interpret God's name into some English based kemetic meaning.
His name is transiterated into English as YHVH by some authors as you know, but is written in Hebrew with a yod-heh-vav-heh. יְהֹוָה
The name of God is very Holy and sacred in the Hebrew faith, so do you think that we are even going to tell you the proper way to pronounce it? lol Even when His Name is come across when reading the scriptures or reciting the "Shma", the word Adonai (LORD) is replaced to avoid taking His Name in vain. i.e.- Shma Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad!
Yod and vav can act as a vowel, or as a constanat. When Hebew is written, there are no "points" to show you how a vowels are to be pronounced. In some texts, like for novices or beginners to the Hebrew language points are added by the writer. His Name, yod-heh-vav-heh can be pronounced a number of ways. There is no "J " in Hebrew, so we know that one is out. Vav can be pronounced a number of ways, as a vowel it can be O or OO. As a constanant it can be Va, Ve, or Vee.
So your wild hypothesis that it is derived from an Egyptian gods name is unfounded and pointless.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 5:43 PMThank You, Janet. Thank you very much!
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:45 PM
Janet -deep down inside I was hoping for someone to vomit . -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 11:23 AMHmmm... - everything is connected.... Considering some of the dialog here, opposing views, supremacy issues, ego/s, ultimate answers............ I thought to share this link with ya all. Bit of a stretch for an astrology topic I know, but some may find the connection...
Stroke of Insight
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 2:25 PM
What's your point brm, those discussions on that blogs speaks volumes to the problems of her talk, its misleading to the
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 4:46 PMOn one hand we have the "we", "oneness", and "wonder", and on the other there is rationality and perceptions of isolation (us and them). Hopefully we have a healthy balance between the two.....
"you shouldn't even be in this thread it's like your a mere infant, an adolescent, going up against metaphysical supreme scientist - you lack understanding and comprehension."
You haven't even gotten my post let alone know anything about the topic nor astrology, you're way in over you head. You haven't understood any of my post ..."
You have no reading or comprehension skills
If i had the time I'd give you the spanking that you deserve in fact we can start another thread because i believe every man should know the truth - Sherpa stepped off cause he knows better with his experience, as I suggest that you do the same. "
Regarding some of your comments I have to wonder if you have any regard for the meaning of "community". Like a number of other people have suggested...I won't waste any more of my time on or reading this post as so much of this energy is corrosive. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 8:52 PM
Radical simply means "grasping things at the root." -Angela Davis
"The world we have created is a product of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking." -- Albert Einstein
And i can see you have a healthy balance between the two....as you have singled me out,
yeah well if community welcome wagon becomes a mob you get an Army of One,
this is how i was greeted and these are only the first few post on this thread;
The "theory that darkness + darkness = light is utter nonsense. - Sirius
"It's an proselytising advertisement. Join and see the Truth.
Took a little longer than usual to pick up on that" - -Edward
"Color is the suffering of Light." (Goethe) sherpa
"troll fodder from the realms of flotsom and jetsom" - sherpa
"Since my opinion means nothing to you, I am free to comment on the strong force of your stench." sherpa
"I have dealt with the black hebrews before in New York City, so their hate rhetoric is nothing new to me. I found them very hard to have a real dialogue with" -Sirius
"A large group of them also tried to get a foothold in Israel, claiming they were the true Hebrews. That didn't sit well and they were all deported."-Sirius
"Make sure you don't play a part in this." - Sirius
Very little chance of that! Shalom." -Edward
"Individuals can resist injustice, but only a community can do justice."
"I took Pound at his word and tried to "make it new."I wanted to once again offer it up as a celebration of the beauty and terror of life.The awe of awakening to a new day, or perhaps a new self. The wisdom of the ancients seems eternal, yet we are all people affecting our changes. The work of a lifetime is the process of returning to light and life. So it seemed right to blow a little dust off the old Egyptian book and let it shine anew in a more modern era."(p.25) - awakening osiris book of the dead
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 11:58 AMALHIM are not black women if you suggest. rather UMA from RK VEDA>. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:18 PM
Elohim (Amen, Nu) of course was translated into the singular (Whole) and sexless
But
The Amen position was also held by Nu. Nu was, metaphorically, an infinite expanse of water. But water, as shown by the wavy lines of Nu's hieroglyph, meant energy.
Nu was infinite energy. His opposite polarity, the goddess Nut, symbolized infinite matter.
So Nu/Nut represented undifferentiated energy/matter.
That undifferentiated, "pre-Big Bang," state of Being (and consciousness) consisted of eight fundamental characteristics:
Nu (Nun) Nut (Nunet)
Hehu Hehuit
Kerh Kerhet
Kekui Kekuit
Nu (infinite energy) paired with Nut (infinite matter).
Though fused they formed the basis for the eventual Yang & Yin polarities famous in Chinese Taoist philosophy.
Hehu (temporal infinity) paired with Hehut (spacial infinity). Kerh (darkness) paired with Kerhet and Kekui (inertia) paired with Kekuit (stillness).
Those 8 attributes (Tree of Life) , forces or "deities" formed the spiritual template for all differentiated phenomena:
8 DNA strands, 8 lunar phases, 8 bits per computer byte, octal number system, 8 brain circuits, 8 chakras,
8 solar directions and 8 I Ching trigrams.
BOOK -7- ANCIENT EGYPT- THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD
EGYPTIAN WISDOM AND THE HEBREW GENESIS
www.theosophical.ca/Book7Anc...Egypt.htm
According to Egyptian thought, “creation” was mainly limited to the bringing forth of life - the life of water, fish and fowl, animal, reptile, and other forms from the meskhen or creatory of earth, when this was represented by the womb of Apt the pregnant water-cow. This idea of birth from the womb is portrayed in Apt the first Great Mother (fig., P.124). Next the idea of birth from the womb is repeated in the making of Amenta with the Tuat as the creatory or the place of rebirth for the manes. And thirdly, in the astronomical mythology the meskhen, womb or place of birth, was constellated in the “thigh” of the cow as the sign of rebirth in the celestial rebirth place. We have now to formulate the Egyptian origins of the creation legends that have come to us in a Semitic guise or disguise.
In their account of “the beginnings” the Egyptians make no pretence of knowing anything about a cosmical creation. Theirs is the natural genesis. A common Egyptian phrase for creation was “of the first time”, and the expression is well represented in the opening words of the Hebrew book of Genesis, which are rendered “in the beginning” (Stele of the Sphinx, “Of the first time”).
This beginning was “in the domain of Sut”, “that sacred place of the first time”. This first time, says the inscription, goes back to the domain of Sut and to the days of the masters of Khar, the later Akar and,Neter-kar of the under-world.
Darkness was the domain of Sut, as a condition of commencement, and the birthplace was where light broke forth from out the darkness.
It was the African birthplace of the black and white twins of night and day. Otherwise the beginning in “the first time” described by the Meditation was with birth from the abyss, which was the birthplace of water within the earth. It is portrayed as “the Tuat which nobody can fathom”, the place that “sent out light in the dark night”, which was the birthplace of water and of eatable plants (Rit., ch. 172) Thus we have the Deep, the darkness on the face of the deep, the light breaking out of the darkness; the waters and the life springing forth from the waters in eatable plants, grouped together in Amenta the earth of eternity.
Water (Yin) had revealed the secret of creation in the life which came as food by water from the Mother-earth in the unfathomable deep. The [Page 400] secret of water (Orgasm) as the source of life was the primal mystery to the Egyptians, as is shown by Kep (or Apt), the ancient mother of mystery, when the mystery was that of fertilization by means of water, as in the inundation of Egypt by the river Nile. -
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 10:11 AM
When you see the slaughterer, kiss him and fall down. His sword is swift. It brings you life. You shall die and rise as Osiris, born in the magic of sky. Suckled by the mother's teat, you will learn the nature of love. In your hands the slaughterer places the sword with which your must conquer Ignorance, Scientism, and Religion (culture based on seclusion or a chosen one or people set up for imperialism). You shall not live by faith, but with certainty; not in sacrifice, but in ecstasy, and know the coming and going of flowers, the passion of love, of loss and pain.
In my hand I took the sword I was given and I learned to use it. I severed ignorance and felt no pity for the fallen. I brought suffering and pain, but perhaps the wicked men will grieved and change. Love ran through the fields. Wheat grew waist high. Green was the color of grace.
Triumph Over Ignorance
"Now I seize ignorance by its arms and shake it... I am triumphant... I bring to form the man I am, the thoughts I imagined, the worlds I dreamed. The bones of my head burst into flame (Aries Merc). I shoot fiery arrows into the ignorance of darkness and they are like falling stars, messages of light. I live according to what I know and love, the healing of words, the stealing of kisses, the pleasures redemptions."
this was all a test
"There is no end to becoming.... The doors of perception open; what was hidden has been revealed.... As the houses of earth fill with dancing and song, so filled are the houses of heaven. I come in truth. I sail a long river and row back again. It is joy to breathe under the stars. I am the sojourner destined to walk a thousand years until I arrive at myself."
The breeze at dawn has secrets to tell you
Don't go back to sleep!
You must ask for what you really want
Don't go back to sleep!
People are going back and forth
across the doorsill where the
two worlds touch.
The door is round and open.
Don't go back to sleep!
--Rumi
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