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Somtimes on nature-shows on the telly crabs gather in large packs & kinda patrol the beaches, it´s almost like they´ve "taken over", they have claimed that space..."don´t mess with us!" seems to be their harsh message. Are they typical "cancerian scorpies" (crab sun scorpy moon)?
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Re: Cancerian scorpies
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 10:48 AMCancerian scorpios indeed control their territories, that include human rights and liberty, like crabs crowding the beach, hidden in holes under the sand. The natural sand diggers penetrate the Earth with double shells and 4 barbed clamps and they dig in human minds with great fervor. If someone plays nasty with them, you see lizards slithering back into ground, ants dispersing, and there is no way to halt the Earth tremors. People tread carefully around steely-eyed scorpios, but fear no kitchen-freak crabs? That’s where the problem is: there are always wicket people trying to push luck to see where the limit is, hoping they will win giant jackpots… -
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Sat, November 7, 2009 - 3:18 PMAny mentioned kitchen activity in the past was just to kinda underline the secret communication (a language, yes) many crabs speak: they "talk" with food, a language. Great fuss is made about food & folks who want to remain seen as friends better appreciate what´s being offered. Some say it´s here crabs & vigoans meet: most virgoans appreciate good, simple home-cooked food. If great care has been taken to find the right pasta or wine virgos understand the point in doing so. Crabs like old ways & virgoans are old-school critters.
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Sat, November 7, 2009 - 8:27 PMI'm a cancer sun and scorp moon. I usually don't patrol beaches on my spare time... But if need be I can assume authority and respect, but usually there is no need to and I stay nice and sweet -
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Sat, November 7, 2009 - 10:27 PMAs a Cancer Sun and Scorpio Ascendant I have often wanted to get a massive group of people together so we could just wreak havoc on the beach where I used to live. I never was successful, but one day... Nah, I'm way too lazy for that! -
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 10:05 AMYeah, I've always had nightmares about getting run over as I crawl across a street with a bunch of friends. Gotta try it sometime all the same! -
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 10:14 AMYeah, I've always had nightmares about getting run over as I crawl across a street with a bunch of friends ~ on the way to an orgy.
(fixed that for you ;)
love all-ways,
mem
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 2:18 PMI know mars-scorp crabs & am aware THEY CAN SNAP & TURN ANY TIME, full-blown fixated & focused scorp fury, harping endlessly about the same hated subject. But I´m not so sure moon-crabs works the same way, due to the fact that moon-signs only inflate character traits found in both sun/moon sign, and crabs are not known for their malign tempers so...? -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 1:34 AMCancerian scorpios are not known for their combustible nature. Last week some relatives visit the house and found a large hollow space in the kitchen door, which looks kicked broken by a human foot, no one questioned us crabs. All the people pointed finger at my Sagittarius and aries housemates.
We mantic creatures always give enough warning and instruction to prevent the possible crab earth shake. For some apes who try to push the luck, we turn our scorpio tails towards them slowly when they are happily stealing bananas, and sting them before they could scream. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 2:20 AMJoakim, i can confirm that...
Whenever an old issue comes up that i am still angry about, it is like it happens to me/i hear it for the first time again..
i can completely lose it, while normally when i get angry i can be quite in control of my anger
also territory is an real issue, although i think other parts of my chart also contribute to that
i have moon in cancer trine mars/saturn in scorpio... also pluto on the cusp of scorpio wich squares my 4th house sun
i am very territorial this includes my woman, family friends, some possesions and even ex-lovers i can still be possesive about
anyone who oversteps my boundaries, is playing with fire... well water actually
i found that although i get angry mouthed quickly, i do get in a slow burn (like mars in scorpio is described)
and will not go into action quickly, but when i do decide to act, and dont stop either... -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 2:30 AMI think cancerians are quite passive with their aggression. Especially Mars in Cancer.
They're probably one of the more passive aggressive types and in my experience not really prone to overt displays of anger. LIke crabs themselves they attack by approaching things from the side rather than head on. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 4:08 PMPaul-"I think cancerians are quite passive with their aggression. Especially Mars in Cancer."
I can concur Mars in Cancer is very passive. They smile off everything like it means nothing to them.
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 12:24 AMwell i can confirm that is not true, although are also important i guess...
one of my friends has mars in cancer, and is a passionate fan of k1 fighting, practices kickboxing himself and has this real confrontational energy, when het gets mad there is nothing passive , or smiling about him..... he has a square from pluto in libra
the other one is my brother, dont let me get started on that one.... he has got into fights througout his entire childhood, and althoug i can say he is kind of a shy type (but just 18 years old!) he does not let anyone step on his toes, started the most part of the fights he was in, and when he gets heated up he could scare away just about anyone i think, super agressive and strong also....
nothing cancerian or moody about that, i think that his emotions fuel his rage
has mars in the 12th opposite uranus/neptune, square mercury in aries, trine pluto in the 5th
what is really important i think is the level of emotional involvement is important... if they dont care, they wont put up a fight either but just laugh it of i guess...
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 12:38 AMpaul
I have mars in cancer + all other inners in cancer except the moon and even though I can be passive aggressive I am equally as prone to being honest with people if I believe there's a problem of a sort. I tend to be frank and even intense when I think an issue must be addressed.
That might be my moon in scorpio conj pluto in 3rd though, but with that said I think that a mars in cancer, which might be passive aggressive in itself, can grow "unpassive aggressive" if there's other influences that pulls the individual in another direction.
But I should add that in general I do tend to opt for not acting on something and staying passive rather than being impulsive and rash etc. which I realize isn't always to my own benefit AND which I also think astrologically stems from that mars in cancer, but still there's a side of me that can be head strong and initiative taking, especially when I am in a context of other people. But that could be my 11th house sun and mars.
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 12:45 AMWith regards the passive aggressive stance. I do think mars in cancer is fundamentally passive aggressive, just as mars in Gemini is more likely to be verbally caustic, however I didn't mean to imply that ALL mars in cancer people are like that. Obviously you have to take into account the houses and, perhaps more importantly, the aspects involved. A connection to Saturn, Pluto or Uranus will probably temper that mars anyway. Another feature of Mars in Cancer can sometimes be to 'win over' enemies by providing or protecting them in some way, which causes them to lose their 'fuel' for disliking you in the first place - just what I've observed. -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 12:58 AMOh I didn't take it personally or anything, I just thought I'd share what I'm like since I have mars in cancer.
A thing I've noticed with mars in cancer is that they (including myself) tend to be night owls and have general sleep issues. -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 1:05 AMSugarmoon
I was kind of directing it at Ze's post too. Ze suggested that the passive aggressive stance is not quite accurate due to friends of his etc that do not display that temperament. I would suggest that pluto, saturn and uranus aspects probably 'desettle' the normal workings of ANY mars - tempering mars by the quality of the aspect in question. I have mars 29deg gemini, so its pretty close to mars in cancer. -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:09 AMI have Mars in Cancer. What Paul said rings true for me. I hardly ever seem to get mad. *Seem* is the operative word. I like to think that I'm more tolerant and understanding with people's flaws. After all, isn't everyone concerned with "self-preservation?' I'm fine with people's petty mistakes as long as they don't take anything away from me - money, dignity, trust, etc.
When someone's offense is serious I remain angry for days dreaming up revenge for them - half of those I'd actually attempt to fulfill... Actually during those times I hardly had to lift a finger... I use the person's flaws and offenses and magnify it, turning it upon them... (That's probably what happens when an idiot attempts to take advantage of a secretive, passive aggressive opponent. Ha.)
The best way to ruin an enemy is to never let him know that he sucks. Make him exhibit his most abhorrent, or humiliating traits to the world. Hope that everyone throws rotten tomatoes at him.
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Wed, November 11, 2009 - 10:19 AMVirgoan "tactics", when dealing with foes, are similar: be gooder than good & leave it to others to decide who´s the scumbag. -
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 2:42 AMi have had neptune square my mars for a long time, after that chiron, and the recent year jupiter also.....
some difficult energy, i think squares suck , but in fixed signs more than ever...disturbed aggresivenes, with weird states of mind and no obvious outlet...
uranus trine my mars was most certainly a pleasant energy and i sometimes wish i would have stayed in this particular state of mind forever...
i did night shifts, hardly sleeping afterwards, would go to the gym 4 times a week, would go out and party every weekend, women were willing and seem to came out of nowhere..nevered getting tired.. although chiron square would have also contributed to this heightened activity
paul, you said gemini makes for mental agressiveness, cancer for passive one... so what would you make of mars in scorpio seperating from a saturn conjunction (saturn at 9 deg. and mars at 19 deg..)
mars 29gem means you will have progressed mars in cancer for a long time probabaly untill youre late 30s.
also means you have had the opposition from pluto for quite some time, saturn will square it for a year, and uranus will also get into the picture by squaring it, and jupiter will also contribute to that square next year... seams like a lot of action for you, or at least a lot of stimulance.. also the house with aries on the cusp, probably the 6th, is a house to pay attention too i guess as well as sexual attitudes.....
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 6:00 AM"paul, you said gemini makes for mental agressiveness, cancer for passive one... so what would you make of mars in scorpio seperating from a saturn conjunction (saturn at 9 deg. and mars at 19 deg..) "
I think that 10 degrees is too wide an orb for me to consider. I wouldn't take these two planets as being conjunct.
"mars 29gem means you will have progressed mars in cancer for a long time probabaly untill youre late 30s.
also means you have had the opposition from pluto for quite some time, saturn will square it for a year, and uranus will also get into the picture by squaring it, and jupiter will also contribute to that square next year... seams like a lot of action for you, or at least a lot of stimulance.. also the house with aries on the cusp, probably the 6th, is a house to pay attention too i guess as well as sexual attitudes..... "
Yeah I had pluto opposition for quite some time. Pretty intense 'character building' ocurred during those years. I entered the fire and exited a galvenised and transformed individual. I'm all the better for it, but I won't lie and say it was a walk in the park cos it wasn't.
"also the house with aries on the cusp, probably the 6th, is a house to pay attention too i guess as well as sexual attitudes..... ""
yes coupled with the fact that my natal venus is in the 6th too! -
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 7:31 AMhmm that is what i read upon every time, that 10 degrees is to wide of an orb... i do fit the description for the most part, i am slow to action, and do repress my anger sometimes..although not as strong my best friend has them conjunct within 1 degree
my sun and venus are 11 degrees apart and feel pretty much as the conjuction...
and by the way of the 4 serious relationships i had... 3 had mars conjunct midheaven or in the 10th, and 1 had mars in capricorn...
that must mean something!!
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 7:49 AM"i do fit the description for the most part, i am slow to action, and do repress my anger sometimes"
I think that's just part of the Mars in Scorpio energy to be honest, I don't think its Mars-Saturn conjunction.
I think Mars-Saturn conjunction is much more of a dyanmo or a pressure cooker. It's not about sometimes repressing your anger, which of course we all do, its more about almost being afraid of your anger, bottling it until eventually it explodes! Or alternately about 'pacing' your energy and not wanting or not being able to 'sprint'. It's about pace, the steady control and preservation of your energies. The square of course is much more 'dynamic' and perhaps much more difficult, as woudl be the opposition.
Are you sure your time is exactly right? If its off by a minute or two you'll have Taurus rising. Taurus Rising can be very slow to act!
If we take Venus as the chart ruler ,we'll see that it squares mars and saturn which might also talk about being slow to action.
But even if we accept your chart as it is, you have the majority of planets in Fixity, mars in a fixed sign and sun sq saturn.
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Re: Cancerian scorpies
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 6:30 PMSo, I'm a Cancer sun, my wife is a Scorp moon. I practically never get angry in a directed way though I can get very "grouchy" and sarcastic at times. She tends to have raging fits of fury which pass relatively quickly- to be honest I'm probably projecting the anger because I don't really deal with it myself. Put these together I can imagine the potential anger issues! I don't know anyone with these two placements personally, but if Will Ferrell www.astro.com/astro-datab...rell%2C_Will is anything to go by- help!
