Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

topic posted Sat, July 4, 2009 - 9:53 AM by  Joakim
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Age takes its toll on everything & I have seriously considered getting rid of those "baggy" lower eyelids, they kind of steal the attention from my fearsome dark-brown "scorp-eyes" (which so many Virgos have been blessed with). But is this VANITY really ok from a scorpian (virgo/libra/scorpio) point of view? Perhaps one should accept natures changes just like the seasons? Am I thinking about committing perversions..?
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  • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

    Sat, July 4, 2009 - 10:09 AM
    It is OK for Virgo, the most perverse sign in the zodiac, to undergo a little nip and tuck. For Virgo, vanity is no shame...it is a way of life.
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      Sat, July 4, 2009 - 10:38 AM
      *blink*

      I never met a kinky Virgo... ever. I was actually made to feel bad by all three Virgos I was with for anything slightly out of the norm which was not even out of the norm if you think of it.





      I'm a Libra moon and plan on just aging naturally. I dye my hair but have been doing it since I was 17 when I found out I look better with a different color than I naturally am.
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        Sat, July 4, 2009 - 10:48 AM
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          Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:13 PM
          I just got that.

          I can be quite dense at times, but don't mistake it for stupidity. I just have a habit of half reading (or listening) some things because my mind wanders way too much that I don't even need drugs........ I'm on a natural high. BTW, I love that comedian.
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            Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:47 PM
            little wonder why this planet is so devolved
            why is it that most people avoid personal
            responsibility, I wonder...
            spose the easy way out is to lay blame...
            react and point fingers and make other
            people places and things responsible for
            ones own shortcomings.
            Remaining a victim is so disempowering.
            People get some kind of rush from provoking
            reactions....reminds me of vampirism...
            Im not excluding myself from this behaviour..
            this is just a mini war..
            how do we hope for world unity
            with grass roots like this...
            Im suffering idealism
            reality check= balance
            = )
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              Tue, July 7, 2009 - 9:00 PM
              Was it me? I seriously do lose a lot of what it being said. Miss the big picture, which I did here and interpreted something entirely different because my mind does wander. At least I hope that's my problem.
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    Sat, July 4, 2009 - 11:42 PM
    Just a tip, nothing is more unattractive than guys who get plastic surgery. It's better with droopy eyelids than someone who actually goes to let people cut their face, that's off putting. I say save your money and do something worthwhile.
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      Sun, July 5, 2009 - 5:21 AM
      But completely natural with rotten teeth & long, green hair perhaps is not that lovely either. Just teeth-brushing with whitening is a deviation from "genuine". Virgos are female creatures at heart & perhaps they get more disturbed by those piggy-looking eyelids than old Scorpy (a male)? I´m sure most Venus scorps, librans, would agree!
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        Sun, July 5, 2009 - 1:09 PM
        completly naturual IS fine, Joakim - one can be natural AND have white teeth, good tight complexion, and wonderful hair.

        i also know which herbs will produce those effects. If i want to define and lean my muscles, there are simple herbs that will do that. And moderate exercise - like walking, rather than riding, to a large majority of ones appointments is good exercise.
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          Sun, July 5, 2009 - 2:23 PM
          Ageing sooner or later will make most people look like rotten fruit, it´s they way things are meant to be. Anyone visiting the plastic surgeons office looking for lost youth has lost his compass in life. I share the affection for "genuine" stuff but also have, perhaps arrogant, ideas that sometimes Nature needs a little "trimming", sometimes hairy armpits are just a little...too hairy. One of the wisest decicions of my life was a similar little "correction" of Natures work: eye laser surgery. From extreme myopia, just fog without thick lenses, to nearly perfect vision.
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            Sun, July 5, 2009 - 2:58 PM
            Ageing sooner or later will make most people look like rotten fruit, it´s they way things are meant to be'

            one can be good looking into their 50' s and 60's. hansom good. and i figure i will be past the need for the beauty of youth by that time. :)

            General Yang from China of the last century, was over 100, and was still stacked.
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              Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:20 AM
              In Sweden we have this thing called "de grå tinningarnas charm" (the charm of the greying temples), meaning that some senior male citizens are smokin´ hot.
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                Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:23 AM
                Yes men who are aging and who have a little grey can be very hot :) I've always been attracted to men a lot older than me :)
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                  Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:31 AM
                  (hence the Lolita avatar lol) :D
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                    Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:43 AM
                    There is something that is unattractive about cosmetic surgery to me. I think it is normally pretty obvious or noticeable when someone has had a face lift etc etc.

                    I can understand the use of cosmetic surgery in examples such as the removal of a mole or for tidying up scarring etc etc but not for simply wanting to look younger than they really are. The older generations complain that they are not respected like 'in the old days' and they blame the younger generation for this. But how can they blame us when they themselves are fighting to get onto the doctor's table to look ten years younger. Perhaps if the older generations respected their own age, then the younger generations would also.

                    The older you are, the more experienced you are. You are SUPPOSED to go grey and look like you've lived a long life. You have. There is nothing more pleasant and inspirational than seeing the deep wrinkles of laughter lines on the face of an old woman rather than the plastic expressionless sheen of botox and face lifts.
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                      Tue, July 7, 2009 - 11:12 AM
                      "There is something that is unattractive about cosmetic surgery to me. I think it is normally pretty obvious or noticeable when someone has had a face lift etc etc.

                      I can understand the use of cosmetic surgery in examples such as the removal of a mole or for tidying up scarring etc etc but not for simply wanting to look younger than they really are. The older generations complain that they are not respected like 'in the old days' and they blame the younger generation for this. But how can they blame us when they themselves are fighting to get onto the doctor's table to look ten years younger. Perhaps if the older generations respected their own age, then the younger generations would also.

                      The older you are, the more experienced you are. You are SUPPOSED to go grey and look like you've lived a long life. You have. There is nothing more pleasant and inspirational than seeing the deep wrinkles of laughter lines on the face of an old woman rather than the plastic expressionless sheen of botox and face lifts."


                      A smart guy with some vanity is more attractive than a stupid judgmental guy with arrogance.
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                        Tue, July 7, 2009 - 11:57 AM
                        "A smart guy with some vanity is more attractive than a stupid judgmental guy with arrogance. "

                        Whatever.
                        Laux you've never anything good to say to me.
                        Reality is that the truly smart know that they beauty is on the inside and cannot be found by tightening skin and clinging desperately to their memories of youth.

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                          Tue, July 7, 2009 - 12:09 PM
                          chill. the real reality, is that those too young to have cosmetic surgery, also have not lived long enouph to perhaps feel the reasoning that an older person. And, nearly all scorps i know have their own techniques for tightening skin and rejuvinating good looks. And its not unnatural or bad to look good when one is old. As i have mentioned before, General Yang was hansom and stacked at 100+ years old. And it all came from his physical martial arts disiplines and a good knowledge of rejuviation tonics. His dark black hair was natural as well.

                          and on another hand, there are formula's created anciently, that are soley for improving cosmetic appearance. It is just a generality to say someone is desperate about clinging to youth.

                          And there is another statistical fact- in large corporations and fortune 500 companies - men that are wrinkly and grey have a huge statistical drop in sales and revenue. The same for women working in the same capacity. For them, it is not about clinging to youth - its them realizing that many younger clearly executives discriminate in hirings or transactions with those who appear too old.
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                          Tue, July 7, 2009 - 1:23 PM
                          Genetics factor into this to a huge extent.

                          I am often mistaken as being my mother's granddaughter. My son is 26 and could pass for 16 ~ sort of the Elijah Wood/David Radcliff type. My mother herself looks ten to fifteen years younger than her actual age, and the same was true of my father, only perhaps even more so. It freaks people out. I have been accused of lying that I am older than I am, however I carry a copy of my birth certificate with me. Surgery is totally not involved. No one in my family has done that. When I remember, I may use a moisturizer ~ more often in the winter when the heat is dry, but not always. I sometimes wonder if natural moisturizing is a function of urea content in the body. Both of my parents had gout ~ which is when uric acid crystallizes in joints. I don't have it yet though.

                          If there is any astrological basis for youthful looks, I cannot pinpoint it because certainly my family all have very different charts. I think this is one of those nonastrological phenomena.

                          Paul ~ do you remember Dion Fortune's novel The Sea Priestess? She kind of covers this topic there.
                          • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                            Tue, July 7, 2009 - 2:25 PM
                            Amiable--

                            There is! Leo and Virgo combined probably have an impact on your more youthful look. That and 12th house stuff, since that's the house associated with Pisces/Neptune . My mom also looks younger and she's a Virgo Rising, Cancer/Leo cusp combined with Pisces Moon, which also adds a bit of a "clueless" air (even if it's not true, that's the effect). People used to ask her if she was our sister! And I also wonder if your Saturn square helps with staying younger longer or getting more relaxed as you get older (I think so much of it is psychological also) Does your mom have any of these aspects? I also look young, and I have a Leo Asc., Neptune oppositions and Sun conj. Mercury in Gemini with an Aries moon. And Saturn on the IC has made me more youthful as I get older and not take things so seriously--I actually look younger today than I did at 16, when everyone would think I was 25. Okay, part of that was a weight problem also, another thing you don't have issues with lol.
                            • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                              Tue, July 7, 2009 - 2:38 PM
                              I'm 39 and am always taken for being younger than I am when people meet me. I also have a youthful enthusiasm that sometimes comes through that sorta bugs people, but other times I do act miserable and old lol. My parents did not age the same way and I don't know if one day age will just "hit" me like a rock.

                              You brought up certain signs and houses. My Sun/Venus is in Pisces, My Neptune is in the 4th house and my Asc could either be in Leo/Virgo depending on how on my birth time is.
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                            Tue, July 7, 2009 - 2:31 PM
                            "I am often mistaken as being my mother's granddaughter."

                            My mom has been mistaken for my dad's daughter lol! And he's only 5 yrs older than my mom. So people sometimes think that my dad has 3 daughters instead of 2 :)
                            Someone also thought my ex-bf (who was 25) was my father haha :D I was 17, but my bf really didn't look old enough to be my father.. he was just dressed up in a suit, and I think the person just saw him from the back. And another time when I was with his 35 yr old older brother, someone else thought he was my father. I think he was kind of embarrassed, but I thought it was kind of funny :D
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                              Tue, July 7, 2009 - 2:54 PM
                              All this gets very confusing for people, but yeah, it can be funny. Sometimes, well, I really don't know if that seeps into the family relationships or whether the family relationships seep into those perceptions. What I mean is that to some extent, my son and I do relate as siblings. He always calls me Mom, but our way of interacting is not so much like Mom and Son. We get on the phone, and we start talking about everything under the sun like we are the same age. Now and then I pull a Mom thing, I admit. But it is almost like a reminder. LOL!

                              Yeah, you know, you guys are right. There is a psychology to it, too. And, as awful as this is to say, when the little girls in my mother's neighborhood go looking for cherry blossom faeries, I want to go look for them, too. Sometimes I just go out into her front yard by myself and look around for those that would frequent her oak trees.
                        • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                          Tue, July 7, 2009 - 8:04 PM
                          "Whatever.
                          Laux you've never anything good to say to me.
                          Reality is that the truly smart know that they beauty is on the inside and cannot be found by tightening skin and clinging desperately to their memories of youth."

                          Inner beauty can't be hurt by a bit of vanity.

  • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

    Tue, July 7, 2009 - 2:27 PM
    "Perhaps one should accept natures changes just like the seasons"

    joakim

    Im only answering the question that you asked, don't ask questions if you're not prepared for answers. I have no flowers in my hair and genuinely believe what I said. The quicker we stop becoming addicted to youth the better!
    I don't know your life but I do know a tiny bit of travis' and if I saw him in person I would expect some of that life and his experience to be written on his looks, I have greater respect for reality. Perhaps it is my first house Saturn! I accept you're entitled to disagree with me, please accept i'm also entitled to disagree wit you too.
    I disagree wit some of your astrological interpretations, but I have nothing against you personally.
    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

      Tue, July 7, 2009 - 3:41 PM
      Some folks will say "pruned" truths to sound jolly, decent & what not. But most of us know better. Most know that money rules everything, but some of us like to sound good by saying it´s not important. Perhaps even more powerful than money is beauty, that stuff can sell anything. But some folks deny that, they prefer to sound good. Reality often is a terrible thing which often must be "trimmed" to be allowed in our society. Few people want to hear about uncomfortable or just plain unbearable stuff. That´s probably why Nature designed scorpians, cold & hard critters ready to face facts.
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        Tue, July 7, 2009 - 3:53 PM
        Now do you all get why i get rude and simple? another thread, hijacked for its own amusement, at your expense, once again. Whats truly intresting, is that you all leave the door right open, again. Watch, and see what comes of it. Aren't anyone tired of this crap yet?

        niet, it would be. now act surprised. real surprised.
    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

      Tue, July 7, 2009 - 3:57 PM
      @Paul-
      you do know a fair bit about me, and by the responses of my real life friends - say just that. I have come to find that eating right and keeping in shape is the best feel for me. I guess my rugged hansomness extends to my age progression, lol. In similar, having been thru certain things, it is easy to spot that inner feeling or experience on the features of a person.
      • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

        Tue, July 7, 2009 - 4:41 PM
        But none of that goes to explain why you are such a bitter and nasty person.
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          Tue, July 7, 2009 - 4:50 PM
          you are in serious need of some probiotics.

          im only bitter and nasty to you. many find me quite delightful, thank you for your concern. now go finger someone else.
          • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

            Tue, July 7, 2009 - 5:56 PM
            I take probiotics, you insufferable know-it-all idiot who basically knows nothing. And I am certainly not your only target. You are a spiteful, gutless, ugly son of a bitch who can't get over himself and you sure the hell know it. You just like to advertise it as though it were some sort of paradoxical display of muscle and victimization. Dissgust is a generous feeling toward you. And I don't give a rat's ass what you or Joakim have to say. Neither of you are worth the powder it would take to blow you both to hell. <grin>

            And anyone who takes exception to my statements can consider that at least I am honest and not afraid to say what I think and feel. How many of you think it and stuff it?
            • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

              Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:07 PM
              hee hee.
              ?? you gave me my giggles for the evening.

              The new season show of Stargate SG1 was a blast. It takes alot more powder than blowing someone to hell to get one of them Stargates to dial out an address. Really. I tell ya, that Ben Browder is such a hunk. Stacked like a brick shit house, in fact.

              Now it's National Treasure tonite for the movie. I love that one too. i appeals to my sense of mystery. i have dug up a few artifacts, and it really is a true thrill of a life. Ok, anyone have any Templar blood in your family? Will anyone confess to being a Templar, in this lovely astrology room? hmm......
              • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:09 PM
                Does anyone know if Sean Connery ever had any plastic surgery?

                i am under the impression not, and he sure aged very gracefully. Maybe its the voice....
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                  Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:13 PM
                  He is a beautiful Scot. Enough said.
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                    Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                    Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:19 PM
                    What shallow assholes you are. Like your eye bags are of any interest to anyone, Ick. But it all speaks of the enormously superficial attitude you have toward everything. I am delighted not to have made your acquaintance in LIfe.
                    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                      Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:26 PM
                      Moth, the superficiality you have exhibited on this tribe so far upstages anything from anyone on this thread. At least here the superficiality is honest, upfront and not parading as something else.
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                        Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:37 PM
                        I am beginning to think her cat is not dying as much as it's
                        trying to commit suicide and get the fuck away from her.
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                          Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:40 PM
                          oh my. hehe.
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                            Tue, July 7, 2009 - 7:23 PM
                            Jeez you guys,

                            So much energy just wasted-it's overwhelming. Insult to Scorpions, really. I don't understand why none of you even want to even try to be better than this...
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                              Tue, July 7, 2009 - 7:27 PM
                              ""I don't understand why none of you even want to even try to be better than this...""

                              amblinghermit can't resist accentuating the negative -- i hear that it's t's a hard habit to break.
                              • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                                Tue, July 7, 2009 - 7:51 PM
                                Um...I was talking about all of you.

                                At least Amiable's insults are entertaining and even funny. You guys have no light whatsoever. The extent just amazes me. I mean, someone would have to do something truly cruel for me to speak like this (and I do have the ability-just look at my chart), but it's crazy that someone on the freakin' internet can provoke you to be so hateful.

                                Plutonian energy is so powerful, and from an outsider's perspectives, this use of it is just so depressing.
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                                  Tue, July 7, 2009 - 10:42 PM
                                  At least Amiable's insults are entertaining and even funny.'

                                  either you are new, or do not read extensively, or are the same old Alt i have grown to know and love - either way, when you are on the charitable receiving end from her, illumination will quickly follow. She inserts herself at all times, to start fights, and fights she gets. And it looked like it progressed fine while i was out to my movie - thus it is her efforts - not mine - to make her look like the real uncouth swine she tries to cover up with tiger stripped pants.

                                  Why she has not pulled the staples out from the last nip -n- tuck, i cannot fathom. Thats why she's so excited about this thread.

                                  She came in, to be rude to Joakim and myself, so she can entertain us. If she didn't like the thread, or how shallow it is (yet she sunk to a lower shallow than the subject itself)- then why didn't she just - shut the fuck up? Cause she wanted to put digs in with two of her favorite men - and once again, voi-la - she is offended when she gets a snotty reply. We were both actively talking, she actively inserted her own foot, into her hugely swollen mouth. She has the right to speak where she wants, to people whom do not want to talk to her at all, and she has the right to experience again, our distaste in her mean spirited and venal, self centered words. Pretty simple, yet seemingly impossible for some to learn. Don't mistake any of us for having a dark sense of talk or humor. We just plain don't like, or hate her. And then there's others that take turns being reasonable, then crapped upon, one by one, in a sick little merry go round. We that spoke, are not one of those people.
                                  Simple. borrow a calculator and do the math. cook the books, and it comes back to bite ya in the ass. so to speak.

                                  And wait, she will do this,to whomever is present in a thread, for as long as this tribe has no moderator. And she will get what she so orgasmed over last week - a huge amount of comments going nowhere. A monument to her self. its like the attack of the toxic waste zombies, for the good lords sake. To bring it back to cosmetic surgery - lets all make amiable dolls and sew their moths shut. Now lets quickly post some new topics, or call klaudio for some new info on astrology.
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                                    Tue, July 7, 2009 - 11:15 PM
                                    yeah but you have a habit on commenting negatively about everything she says, even if she's just speaking on a thread to respond to the topic. And then she replies insultingly also, and then the cycle begins. I mean, we all have a right to be here and comment about the subject at hand. I've seen many instances when she's merely speaking to discuss and you or someone else chimes in with some comment that gets it all started. And I don't see Amiable with a big posse picking on you either. She's just one person, so it's not a fair fight most of the time, as smart as she is at standing up for herself. It's just bullying if a whole mob is targeting one person, and it makes no sense. This is a freakin' astrology tribe, and there are other people here, so why not support that atmosphere? I mean, isn't that why we're here?
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                                      Tue, July 7, 2009 - 11:28 PM
                                      sonah22 ~ have you ever asked yourself why amiablehermit incites the kinds of responses you write about ? why do you think she is despised by so many here ? maybe it's no accident. and it's a lot more than just two or three hecklers. without listing names, i have counted at least nine or ten people here who have openly stated their dislike and disgust for her thread-hogging posts and nasty comments (both in the public forums and in private e-mails). that you are still defending her baffles me.
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                                        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 1:31 AM
                                        "why do you think she is despised by so many here ?"

                                        Midnighter

                                        I genuinely do not know. It is true that she doesn't back down from a fight, but neither do a lot of people. It is true she pulls her own and can use her tongue as a whip as good as anyone can, but so do others. Is it true that she is despised by many? I do not know, I do know that she is also respected by people here too. What is the purpose of all this? What is the aim? That Amiable leave astronuts? Is that right? To have a witch hunt?
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                                          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 11:42 AM
                                          I'm with Paul...I don't know either, which pretty much conveys that this is something that has been going on for too long, meaning you guys and Amiable could just let it go. I mean, why not just let her reply to a topic, and vise versa? It's just an online forum, if you think about it. I understand people's emotions are involved, but if you hate somebody, then stop riling her up and leave her be. Apathy is a truer form of hate anyway. And I really don't see Amiable replying to every little comment you guys make with an insult. I mean, read below...if she wrote anything within that discussion, even if it was helpful, you would put it down. That's my point.
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                                            Wed, July 8, 2009 - 11:54 AM
                                            Sonah

                                            On this occassion Laux is actually directing his barbed tongue toward me instead. He sees me as some 'flowers in my hair' person, whatever that means, presumably some hippie kind or something? I don't know. Laux has never said anything to me that wasn't an insult and the only reason for it that I can make out is that I have questioned the supremity of Scorpio (as I do not think any one sign is 'better' than the others) and have on occassion supported some of the astrological ideas that Amiable has made. As a result Laux has continued to reveal his own inferiority by projecting it onto others. I wouldnt' be surprised if you were next on his hitlist (maybe not now I've specifically vocalised) as posting comments just like your one is what got me onto his bad books in the first place.
                                            Honestly, you would think that childhood name calling could be left behind in the playgrounds of 6 year olds but it seems not. I'm just waiting for Laux to run over to Amiable and pull her hair and run away.
      • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 1:24 AM
        Travis

        "you do know a fair bit about me, and by the responses of my real life friends - say just that. I have come to find that eating right and keeping in shape is the best feel for me. I guess my rugged hansomness extends to my age progression, lol. In similar, having been thru certain things, it is easy to spot that inner feeling or experience on the features of a person."

        You have had a hard time of it but from your pics you can tell that there is a kind heart that has had it's knocks. Imagine how dissatisfying it would be if all we saw of you was a plasticated sheen on the forehead, your eyes pinned up into your forehead and the inability to express any emotion due to constant botoxing? It wouldn't be right.
        We are all somewhat vain and like to look good, but there is a difference in wanting to look our best and NEEDING to look BEYOND our best. A good diet and some exercise and lots of laughter and love is the key to looking truly young or beautiful. I'd much prefer to see some lines around the eyes that hint at sorry and melancholy, mixed with laughter lines and bright eyes and a kind smile that can still convey emotion - that's the sign that you have actually lived.
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          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 1:30 AM
          Don't get me wrong, I don't judge or have any 'moral' reasons why I would be against botox, just personal ones. I think it's time we stopped becoming addicted to youth. Age shows experience and experience is the whole reason we're born. We can hardly expect other people to take older faces seriously if older faces themselves do not.
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            Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:00 AM
            Thank you Paul, point well made. and kind as well, thank you. And yeah, i would not be complete if my face did not move - its as expressive as the words i choose. That would be like having to use simple words the rest of my life.

            and seriously, injecting oneself with botulism for beauty is....well.. strange.

            You know what is even grosser? Some people have found other places to inject with botox. eeewwwwwwwww.
            ):0 the sign of the devil boy
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              Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:06 AM
              "Some people have found other places to inject with botox."

              So I hear! Who actually thought of that to begin with?
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                Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:38 AM
                ''So I hear! Who actually thought of that to begin with?"

                someone whom apparently was not pleased with what god gave him. its not the impressiveness of the sword that counts, but how well it is used. needles and

                my penis

                do not go in the same line. ow.
                • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                  Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:45 AM
                  yeah ouch!
                  Woman do the same thing tho to tidy up their lower bits. I also hear that there was a woman who got herself stitched up so that she could be a virgin again. Would be interesting to look at the astrology of people who are addicted to surgery, the people who constantly get work done.
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                    Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                    Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:46 AM
                    btw going back to the 'Scorpians' part of the thread, I don't think surgery is ok or not ok for any particular sign. I dont' think it matters.
            • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

              Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:10 AM
              I have noticed a high ponytail pulled tight
              gives a bit of an eye lift...lmao!
              it can also give a bit of a headache though...
              I like the way my crows feet are developing
              more than my frown lines...
              and I have a "beauty" spot AKA mole
              on my nostril where others have piercings..
              people think its pierced at first, then see its a
              deformity, as opposed to , well...
              My Aunty used to go on about getting the two
              removed...one centre chin as well...
              but, Im like, thinking Id rather beauty spots than
              scars to mark where they were...
              whatever, Im flawed....throughout!
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    >>>
    Most know that money rules everything, but some of us like to sound good by saying it´s not important.
    >>>

    Actually I beg to differ.
    Once you get past the poverty line - more money doesn't really relate to more happiness.
    Even if you look at folks in poverty - quite a few of those learn the secret of being grateful for what you DO HAVE instead of grabbing at what you don't have to fill your own self-inflicted appetites.

    Money can only rule everything if you let it.
    And even then it does a piss poor job of it.

    >>>
    Perhaps even more powerful than money is beauty, that stuff can sell anything. But some folks deny that, they prefer to sound good.
    >>>

    The kind of beauty you are referring to is a facade that only runs skin deep and is not fully sustaining. Sure it's nice! But it isn't everything ... not even close.

    >>>
    Reality often is a terrible thing which often must be "trimmed" to be allowed in our society. Few people want to hear about uncomfortable or just plain unbearable stuff. That´s probably why Nature designed scorpians, cold & hard critters ready to face facts.
    >>>

    Actually - these things you talk about - money and good looks have deeper roots in the survival instinct. Almost all features associated with good looks are also associated with good health and symmetry. But there are some other important signs of good health including and especially a smiling face, and a certain sense of balance about a person.
    Money stands for the ability to provide for what a person needs and take care of others as well as themselves. But this isn't the only factor. Education, handiness and social network connections all play into it.

    Also - I think a real toothy smile emanating right from a person's heart is far more beautiful than a flawless complexion or perfect white teeth. I know a girl with a funny nose and wacky crooked teeth and freckles - but when this girl smiles ... all the boys fall down before her. It never fails. I grew up watching ti happen EVERY TIME.


    And for some people like myself - emotion trumps physical appearance every time. But I think I am a strange case so I'm not going to go into detail ... just suffice to say that some things are more powerful than beauty or money.
    Family bonds can be one. The mothering instinct is another. The creative/ inspiration drive can be more powerful than the aesthetic imperatave for others.
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    Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

    Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:49 PM
    OMG, MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEAD!!!
    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

      Tue, July 7, 2009 - 6:50 PM
      • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 12:46 AM
        The smelly moth, "Like your low-intellect and totally unempathic opinion means anything. What a waste of air you are. "

        When smart investigator suggested that there is something in the crime suspect’s hair—perhaps out of a guess-- the bad-breathed hatred-inciting moth screamed, "there is no flower in his hair! Folks, don’t look, don’t look! Her opinion means NOTHING!"
        • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 1:17 AM
          "When smart investigator suggested..."

          Laux the problem is that you wouldn't know anything about being a smart investigator.
          At some point in your life you're going to have to give up your cancerous mindset of hatred. It is not good for the health to be so poisonous. Are you completely incapabale of saying anything that isn't a barbed comment or insult? You are aware surely that everyone here is only human with flaws and faults like everyone else? Your poisonous comments reveal much more about you than they do about anyone else.
  • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

    Wed, July 8, 2009 - 1:46 AM
    I don't think lines or lack of lines determine how youthful or old they appear to others. The inner is just as important and erasing lines only mends the shell of what might just be (general) someone that's old (no matter their age) and that you can't hide.

    I have to admit. I HATE the puffiness under my eyes myself that I get often in the winter time (mainly) from severe allergies when I get locked up and trapped in my apartment. I need to get an air purifier. I am vain about looking sickly myself.
    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

      Wed, July 8, 2009 - 1:50 AM
      "I HATE the puffiness under my eyes myself"

      SecSip

      I know this sounds random, but try adding hemarhoid (no idea how to spell that properly) cream under the eyes. It will reduce swelling. Just make sure not to get any into the eye.
      • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:02 AM
        a fresh tea bag, dipped only for 15 seconds, and placed over each eye (after a moment or two of cooling) and relaxing for 5-15 minutes will suck that puffiness right out. Tea is real good for the complexion, externally.
        • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:45 AM
          Thanks guys, I've done both. Actually I did the teabags but they were frozen so they weren't fresh and did nil. This method should work much better.
          • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

            Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:47 AM
            "Thanks guys, I've done both. Actually I did the teabags but they were frozen so they weren't fresh and did nil. This method should work much better."

            Did you try the hemarhoid cream bit? I know people who swear by that, especially after a night out.
            • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

              Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:54 AM
              heh, yes I have. I have heard that Prep H doesn't contain the stuff that it use to that helps reduce that sort of puffiness anymore. I moderate a modeling website so you think I'd pay attention to helpful tips, but that's not the section I tend to so I tend not to read it often. I may have simply done it incorrectly.
              • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                Wed, July 8, 2009 - 3:02 AM
                hmm I don't know. I've never actually used the cream thing on the eye, or for that matter teabags. I seldom get puffy eyes (yet).
                The only other solution I know is the one that Travis gave, tho some people do the teabag thing and follow up immediately with a slice of cold cucumber or ice also.
                Travis is the teabag supposed to be warm, hot or cold? I know people who use cold tea bags.
                You may have a persistant allergy to something and it would be worth getting this checked out in any case. It might be a simple anti-hystemine or cutting down on a food that will solve the problem. If it is persistant then it is showing something in your life or lifestyle really needs to change, rather than fixing the symptoms, fix the problem!
                It sounds obvious but don't sleep with contacts or makeup on either!
                • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                  Wed, July 8, 2009 - 3:05 AM
                  btw I'm obviously no makeup artist or anything, but a lot of people (like my sister) get around slightly puffy eyes by applying a concealer that is one shade lighter than her skin tone. I had to learn how to do airbrushing at university using Photoshop and a similar technique was used, slightly brightening the area under the eye to reduce the effect of puffiness. Better effects are used nowadays tho in PHotoshop.
                • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                  Wed, July 8, 2009 - 3:14 AM
                  I need to go to a new allergist. I should move into an apartment that's not carpeted and well ventilated. I should invest in an air purifier. I shouldn't have a pet, but I would never get rid of Lucy.

                  My old allergist gave me shots for outdoor and indoor things so I was getting 6 shots a week. When she found out I lived in a house (at the time) with 3 cats she was like, "Oh, I didn't know that....... you're allergic to cats and dogs too." So she started me on a shot for cats only since I wasn't around dogs all the time.

                  Someone who worked there for some odd reason slipped me my results which I wasn't suppose to have and it showed I'm allergic to histamine and certain feathers (I sleep with a down and down pillows lol).

                  <---- Would like to know if there's a natural remedy for allergies. Email me if you know anything :P
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                    Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                    Wed, July 8, 2009 - 3:20 AM
                    "<---- Would like to know if there's a natural remedy for allergies. Email me if you know anything :P "

                    I'm afraid I don't, however the bit that interested me is that you weren't supposed to see your own results?! Why not?
                    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                      Wed, July 8, 2009 - 3:42 AM
                      Got me.
                      • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 4:30 AM
                        *snoring sounds from a seat in the back of a theatre*

                        zzzz...perhaps this show was rehearsed in Hell itself, in the area where they keep the gluttonous sinners guilty of pride. The director probably was the Evil One himself, chuckling for being responsibe for setting loose such scourge upon the world...zzzzzzz....just filled with self-satisfaction, over what? No one else understands why, a real mystery...zzzzzz....Malign attitude, attention-seeker at all costs...zzzzz....Shame! Most folks have some sense of shame!....zzzzzz.....the janitor must know how to lower that curtain & turn off that limelight....the janitor....curtain....lower it ...no more
                        • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 4:55 AM
                          In all seriousness.... were you just being a jagoff towards me?

                          I've never purposely been an ass towards anyone here so I just have to ask since your reply was towards my post in particular.
                          • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                            Wed, July 8, 2009 - 5:06 AM
                            No that was NOT a comment to your post (that would have been VERY rude for no reason!)
                            • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                              Wed, July 8, 2009 - 6:13 AM
                              I will say this... I find Tribe's forums very confusing when it comes to following who exactly is replying to whomever. It sucks that you have to make a reply just to post a non-specific comment and not be able to automatically quote someone to directly comment to them.

                              I guess I just have to get use to how things are here. I guess I'm also use to how things are done elsewhere.

                              My questioning also came off very defensive and for that I apologize.
                              • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

                                Wed, July 8, 2009 - 6:31 AM
                                "I will say this... I find Tribe's forums very confusing when it comes to following who exactly is replying to whomever. It sucks that you have to make a reply just to post a non-specific comment and not be able to automatically quote someone to directly comment to them."

                                SecSip

                                Me too. It should be relatively easy for them to allow the ability to reply to a comment or message by someone. The best we can do is just copy and paste in the quote that we're referring to I guess. Some people go one step further and would do something like this -


                                SecSip said
                                "I will say this... I find Tribe's forums very confusing when it comes to following who exactly is replying to whomever. It sucks that you have to make a reply just to post a non-specific comment and not be able to automatically quote someone to directly comment to them."

                                My Reply:

                                Blah blah blah
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    Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

    Wed, July 8, 2009 - 8:48 AM
    You guys are unbelievable, rejects from the internet...

    www.youtube.com/watch
    • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

      Wed, July 8, 2009 - 12:31 PM
      your Alts are not that hard to spot. your getting lazy.
      • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 12:34 PM
        "your Alts are not that hard to spot. your getting lazy. "

        Who are you addressing Travis? I get confused by all these things. I like how you all can spot Alts, the only ones I can spot are Kaludios!

        I think I should create myself an alt, I feel left out.
        • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:07 PM
          ''"your Alts are not that hard to spot. your getting lazy. "

          Who are you addressing Travis? I get confused by all these things. I like how you all can spot Alts, the only ones I can spot are Kaludios!

          I think I should create myself an alt, I feel left out.''

          im not addressing you, paul. nor the kitty. the person thing to whom i am addressing it, knows.
          the funny thing about it all is - course you have no way to verify it - my alts don't cause trouble. Only the one and only me as myself is the one that says what may need to be said. I do not hide behind an Alt to tell someone to shove it in their piehole.

          have an alt if you want. for fun.
          • Re: Scorpians & cosmetic surgery

            Wed, July 8, 2009 - 2:11 PM
            I might create an alt just for fun, but I know Id end up abandoning it. It sounds like a lot of work. Would be quite Gemini of me to create one that disagrees with everything I say. That might be at least semi-interesting rather than the ones that seem to back up each other. I do have suspicions about alts, and when I think about them I really do feel like I'm sherlock holmes, I'm like...wait a minute...why does X only show up when Y comments....unless..no...it couldn't be....they're not ALTS are they!!! I'm such a Ms Marple.

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