Misunderstood Aquarius

topic posted Thu, October 18, 2007 - 10:15 PM by  petra
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I find that Aquarius people are often misunderstood by others. I'm wondering what your first impressions are of the Aquarians in your life, and what you've come to realize about them after knowing them for a while. Lately, I've been curious as to how I appear to the world.

Petra (Sun,Mercury, and Mars in Aquarius)
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  • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Thu, October 18, 2007 - 11:24 PM
    The Aquarius Sun people I have met and known fall into either one of two categories: really paranoid or really smart.

    The paranoid ones have not figured out how to fit into society yet and keep on trying. The smart ones have figured out that they don't fit into society and that this is not a problem but an asset. The paranoids seem to have a big chip on their shoulder, like some rage against the machine or whatever, while the smarties seem more liberated and not so caught up in infantiie rebelilon against phantom authority figures.
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    Fri, October 19, 2007 - 5:05 AM
    Being an Aquarian, I find that my Aquarian relatives get misunderstood like I do, mainly because we can appear a bit detached on the surface, when in reality we are feeling deeply on the inside. People never quite know how I'll react to something. I give no indication......and just when they think they've figured me out, I do something unexpected. At least that's what my boss used to say to me. :o)
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Fri, October 19, 2007 - 6:18 AM
    Maybe they just feel misunderstood -clarification within comminucation often works .
    if you were to start a post and ask which sun sign is the most understood it wouldn't be one sign that would come up.
    You will find it repeated on several of the sun sign bashing posts where someone will come to the defense of the sign by saying it is an often misunderstood sun sign. We don't offer discloser to everyone we meet so much is going to be misunderstood.
    I have come to the conclusion that there is observation and there is first hand experience -many of the descriptions out there are observation of what it looks like or possible common traits -for example, not everyone with a full ninth house is a international traveling Guru .
    It is about communicating with each other . Most people don't give their profile to the astrologer so it is a long process of elimination -traits and tendencies are part of the general description and these are brought by through by the nature, observation , firsthand account , asking an honest person about it who is living it firsthand.
    We can say how come, until we are blue in the face or we can say I am this sign and this is the way I view and experience my expression of this ray.
    kate

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      Fri, October 19, 2007 - 6:49 AM
      I will have to think over all the aquarian sun and moon that I know and try to come up with things they have incommon as for a first impression -I think so far it would be good looks and a pleasing often cheerful disposition. To me it seems as though they actually want to befriend me . Growing up I had a neighbor who was aquarius sun and she would give us candy -she gave all my children their first piece of candy. Still when she was into her 60's with advanced stages of alzhiemers she brought candy out for the neighborhood kids . I grew up around air signs and they are sical and friendly and have the best parties and get togethers .
      It ws fun for everyone -lots of board games and dancing at the parties. Everything always got quickly cleaned up without a complaint . You wouldn't even know that there had been a 12 hour raging block party the next morning other than the trash can would be full .
      kate
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        Fri, October 19, 2007 - 7:41 AM
        wow, your neighborhood was fun, Kate!
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          Fri, October 19, 2007 - 10:46 AM
          I guess this begs the question what are the substantial benefits of being understood by the many when all we really want is those deep and meaningful bonds with the few, and more acquaintance like connections with the rest of humanity - that which we are trying to save from the perils of wandering around in the dark...

          or something like that.

          ~V~
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            Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

            Fri, October 19, 2007 - 11:38 AM
            Like Leo, Aquarius wants to have his cake and eat it too.
            Leo and Aquarius both make this selfish mistake in their personal relationships.
            Both of them WANT to be part of something special but are unwilling to give up their pride or freedom in order to have it. These two signs might encompass some of the lonliest people around, and really might be so truly ALIKE each other at the heart, that maybe it is better to think of Leo/Aquaurius as two sides of the very same coin.
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              Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:06 PM
              interesting your perspective on Leo/Aquarius ,FJ
              at times I have speculated on these similarities as well
              possibly true as in being opposite , these two partake
              of a similar 'medicine ' ,somehow ..
              in any case I'm pretty happy in being my Leonine self ....
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              Fri, October 19, 2007 - 7:31 PM
              geez, being an Aquarian with Leo rising that is so offbase with me. I've given up pride AND freedom at different times in my life for the sake of someone else. If Leo and Aquarius are really pegged that way, I may as well toss out any astrology books I have here, 'cause it's BS to me.
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                Fri, October 19, 2007 - 7:34 PM
                I've given up pride AND freedom at different times in my life for the sake of someone else.
                ~~~~~~

                & how'd that work out for you?....

                love all-ways,
                mem
                • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                  Sat, October 20, 2007 - 1:54 AM
                  it worked fine, MEM, and I have no problem doing it. I really enjoy it when others are pleased and happy. Makes me wanna dance on the rooftops. : D
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                    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                    Sat, October 20, 2007 - 2:34 AM
                    *looks at you*

                    This is one of those moments when one has to go to the chart... I mean, I have some oppositions in my chart... especially with an ASC and... lemme just say... crazy! Er, challenging....
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                      Sat, October 20, 2007 - 7:36 AM
                      "...This is one of those moments when one has to go to the chart...."

                      Ergane, I agree! It's the entire chart which should be looked at. I'd rather people say "all the Aquarians I have known exhibited this trait....blah blah blah..." than have someone just make a statement like it's fact.

                      Besides, there are positive and negative traits to every sign, so we really can't lump everyone into one category. A good example is I have known a double Scorpio all my life who is truly a sincere, kind, honest, charitable good person. She fits none of the bad stereotypes of Scorpio, despite her Sun AND Moon being in that sign. She carries the positive traits. She is well loved by all around her, so it isn't just my opinion which sees her this way.
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                Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:24 PM
                Well maybe Pride & Freedom are simply bigger issus for these two, then.
                I mean, I've known Scorpios who have been fucked over and used and abused miserably by others and been quite pushed around. I think that shows that dealing with power issues and the "dark side" is just something Scorps deal with, and maybe don't want or look for.

                So yeah, it's not to say ALL aquariuses are hung up on their own freedom, and not ALL Leos are too proud to humble themselves enough to associate with people who can steal the spotlight from them...but maybe these folks are learning about these issues from a Karmic standpoint...and their specific Karma shows how the sign plays out in one life.
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    Fri, October 19, 2007 - 10:49 AM
    the main thing with aquarius is thinking that they need something (relationship, job, religion, drug habit, etc.) to fill the emptiness inside. but when they realize that humans are just naturally empty (that's the human condition), then they can be the inspired humanitarians they are meant to be. I've seen aquarius people act crazy trying to run from the simple truth inside that they don't want to face, thinking they are supposed to be something they are not. self-acceptance goes a long way for aquarius!

    as for how other people see them, well that depends on who's looking. I think every sign is misunderstood.

    dave
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Fri, October 19, 2007 - 11:45 AM
      I think every sign is misunderstood by certain other signs too, David.
      But I think some signs are merely misunderstood while others are deliberately deceptive, I think Aquarius often fits the latter category. (That is, signs that don't actually believe they are what their behavior might suggest to others).
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:10 PM
        Well yes FJ, many folks appear to have some difficulties in understanding the concepts of freedom, individuality and self-expression, in themselves and in others. This leads to misunderstandings and misperceptions in so many ways. Perhaps anything that strays from the status quo is seen as deceptive, eccentric and therefore subject to being maligned and put into a little box like the ones they are familiar with and live in.

        No thanks.

        I'll keep my freedom, my individuality and my voice, regardless of of how it might received and perceived...and hopefully connect with those others, whatever astro configuration they might be inhabiting this go around. I'd rather have a few diamonds in hand than houshold full of trinkets at this stage of the game.

        ~V~

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          Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

          Fri, October 19, 2007 - 1:08 PM
          >I'll keep my freedom, my individuality and my voice, regardless of of how it might received and perceived...and hopefully connect with those others<
          See Pisces' for assistance on achieving this. Their qualties usually pick up on it where Aquarius falls short.
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          Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

          Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:25 PM
          i think this is a powerful way to be. as a pisces i find myself most attracted to aquarius and leo for this reason. i think accepting yourself is difficult but for me the best way to teach myself how is to accept all part, including the askew parts. uranus has such a strange energy that is difficult to feel at peace with i think.
          leo, aquarius tend to be the most accepting and long lasting friendships ive ever had because they teach me to take pride in myself which in turn can be projected back out towards accepting others ...which maybe when you're at the point of pisces, there's a lot that you must just accept and digest ...
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            Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

            Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:33 PM
            Yes, Aquarians can be very good in this respect.

            ~V~
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              Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

              Fri, October 19, 2007 - 5:26 PM
              I don't think Aquarius are detached my god!that is part of the point of this post .
              Like anyone we come across things which promotes emotion. An aquarius receives and processes emotions and attactments like most average and normal person do but it goes quickly into the thought process as to where a Pisces or scorpio might stew in their watery haven processing the same emotion each similar get it is filtered within the element guidelines of the signs that rules the chart. There are several combinations and possibilities and outcomes to how people procress things some Aquarius have a Pisces sun or an earthky virgo-aquarius and cancer can throw a nice twist on the concept of detachement.
              Detachment is s a highly developed state of being that is why with Aquarius' detachment comes healthy expressions and understanding which is the promise of Pisces sign . How can one sacrifice for the highest unless they can detach themselves from the myth.
              kate
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                Fri, October 19, 2007 - 5:59 PM
                I have Pisces sun and scorpio rising with moon/venus in Aquarius in H3.

                Aquarius processes emotion by trying to solve it or, literally, understand it to death. Pisces drinks it in like the nectar of life and scorpio pumps it up like the blood of life.

                someone wrote: "Everyone has astrological components which could be wired in numerous ways with different results."

                i agree, signs are like raw materials that posess certain qualities, but free will decides how to shape and apply those materials.
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                  Sun, October 21, 2007 - 1:54 PM
                  <i agree, signs are like raw materials that posess certain qualities, but free will decides how to shape and apply those materials.>

                  I agree. Free will and upbringing affect how the "score" (musical) will be played.
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                Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:33 PM
                Yeah, I know.
                I've known more intense, emotional Aquariuses than detached ones...and that includes myself. One thing I noticed that many Air signs (epsecially Aquarius) share is an interest in scientific hobbies. But that doesn't mean that they are superlogical Vulcans! Aquarius can be pretty damned emotional and quite romantic and deep.

                My girlfriend said she read that Aquarius doesn't fall in liove easily, but when they do they REALLY do...which might explain why they mind their P's & Q's in love.
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:19 PM
        i think a lot of air signs are like this as well, i think its part of being able to be detached, maybe take too literally or too far?
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Fri, October 19, 2007 - 11:28 AM
    In fact, I don't think the Aquarius in me gets that much attention. I think the most expression my Aquarian sun gets is that I tend to enjoy electronics gadgets and goodies (a Uranian influence, really), I like to thini about UFO's sometimes and stuff like that. And I practice astrology. Other than that, people expereince as being somewhat intense and emotional, but also very sensitive about my ideas (which could be consdiered Aquarian). There are always peopel who think that anyone who spends time thinking about UFO's is crazy...but people also think many other people who are into astrology are wierd....which includes all of you NON-Aquarians who are here in this Tribe. So...WHATEVER! ;-)

    When people have anything to say about me, it's usually because I'm display an above averge amount of impatient (DO! DO! DO!) energy whuch stems from my Mars in Aires, and also tend to be unusually intense and jealous and deep (which stems from my Moon in Scorpio). Sometimes I am also considered rather philosophical (which stems from my Sagg Ascendant), because I tend to have an interest in like Buddhism and religion in general.

    Then there are my occasional quirks which seem to draw the most attention, like the fact that I sometimes offer people money for "a few cigarrettes", because I know that if I buy a pack I'll be tempted to smoke at night or whenever...and I really only like to smoke at work when I'm feeling stressed. Therefore, I prefer to pay as I go. People say "why don't you just buy a pack"?! I say, "Because I'll smoke more! You'll make out on the deal, so...WHAT ABOUT IT?"

    I don't think that people have such a diofficult time understanding Aquarius, as they just don't like to think all about the things that Aquarius wants to think about. I noticed that Virgo has a quirky side like this (AQUARIUS ON THEIR OWN HOUSE CUSP, MAYBE?!!! DUH!), but unlike Aquarius, Virgo tried to hide this fact because they are oh-so-conservative and feel they will be blacklisted if they go against the norm. Aquarius (depending on the individual) usually has ineterests such as art, science, history, politics, metaphysics...or all of the above. Most other people want to make small talk, about things which pertain more to their "little world" instead of the Big Picture that includes all people and all things. Most people are not able to foster this broad-mindedness, and they prefer to think about more subjective things which are more personal to them...like football, their kids, Thursday night bowling, hunting trips, Aunt Mabel's trip to the big city, or the great deal they got on lamb-chops at the local meat shop. Aquarius frequently enjoys broader topics and want to share ideas and most of all, EXPRESS THEIRS!

    Personally, I enjoy bonding with significant others in my life and going places to abosorb the Feng Shui energy there. Sometime I like to talk about the borader Aquarian topics I mentioned before with others, but most often I just like to eat, cook, sleep and travel with people I like...and usually on a one-on-one basis. But that's hardly eccentric, is it?

    THE ROOT OF THE ECCENTRIC
    The one thing that I think that confuses some people about Aquarius happens when a traditionally wamer, more senistive, more expressive and more intimate sign like Leo, Aries or one of the Water signs starts getting involved romantically with a traditionally detached Aquarius who doesn't invest much energy in cultivating personal relationships. Many Aquarians feel very uncomfortable with this, and many of them have well-devloped decoys (such as their interest in boring topics like science and politics) which puts conversations with would-be parters on ice so the Aquarius can more easily maintain a distance. Trust me folks, that's it. Aquarius wants to be free to explore and ponder, but sometimes this alienates them and it becomes a self-perpetuating need. So after awhile the Aquarius might actually WANT to have a warm relationship with a lovely person who qualfies as their best friend as well as their lover...(because Lord knows that comes first, right?!). But their lifelong practice of keeping people at a convenient arm's-length might become their personal prison.

    Hint:
    FOLKS....when you want to understand one sign, always look to the opposite for the most important answers. Think about how Leos are, and how they exxress themselves in relationships...and you'll see why Aquarius is their opposite...and why these opposites attract. Leo loves intimacy and attention, but they are also afraid of it and most of all are afriad of their own need for it and of become "tame"...JUST LIKE THEIR OPPOSITE, Aquarius who starves theirself of love in an equal but oppostie way because they also want to be free.

    Duh.
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      Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:10 PM
      *Leo loves intimacy and attention, but they are also afraid of it and most of all are afriad of their own need for it and of become "tame".

      oh my you are so right about this ......



      ..JUST LIKE THEIR OPPOSITE, Aquarius who starves theirself of love in an equal but oppostie way because they also want to be free. *

      point taken .. !!
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:41 PM
        Well, Capt.... After dating having many girlfriends with either Leo Suns, Moons or Ascendants I have found that Leo is like a semi-feral cat sometimes. They may WANT to be pet and fed by you. They try to come close. But they are also afraid fo being too tame and domesticated. When they find themselves getting that way they go back to the jungle for awhile. The taming of these folks is sometimes slow and takes patience. If you are romantically involved with one, the Leo need to be "wild" may sneak up on you if you try to domesticate them too much. I might just be talking about the emotions and not neccessarily the living arrangement. Leo are afraid when their emotions start to take up "residence" somewhere...like in a relationship. I think this stems from having independent Aries on the 9th House cusp which effects their philosopy of life. They value their independence, and they might need to assert it if they start to feel emotionally dependent on you.
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:40 PM
    how you appear to the world? i dunno, i don't know you.
    i've known many 'aquarians' and they are all very different.
    if i was to compare to other signs, i'd say a lot of signs fall into their stereotypes, like i can spot a scorpio a mile away...;-)
    aquarius on the other hand wears many hats but is mostly distinguished by holding an intelligent conversation or at least has an air of intellect about them and something interesting to say. not necessarily smart, as stubborness can play a big part, so can a rather inflated ego, but there is an air about then...pun intended...that i enjoy and feel very much at ease with.

    my mom is an aquarius, my daughter has aquarius moon, my partner lots of aqurius too... i guess i like the aloof detachment, or just respect for individual space for most part, as i mostly have air in my chart with a lot of uranian influences and hate to be controlled or tied down.
    altho i have noticed traits of massive micromanaging in some aquarians, some outright in your face and other's more gehind the back to control the situation.
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Fri, October 19, 2007 - 1:11 PM
      I am an Aquarius but I prefer the company of grounded Earthy people who have developed some sensitivity and intellect also. All the intellectual prowess in the world does not make up for a person who can't relate in a deep and sesitive way to other human beings.
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Fri, October 19, 2007 - 1:21 PM
        ..and hence i'm a pisces, picking up where aquarians leave off ;-)

        'we' fish swim to shallow and deep waters alike... ><{{{'<
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          Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

          Fri, October 19, 2007 - 1:28 PM
          and no, i'm not saying aquarians are 'shallow'.. i like the trait of non-personal-ness of things ...it's not shallow, or unrelating, it's quite the opposite actualy...it's having the ability to step outside the self (ego) to see things objectively...it's a step up from making everything personal. (which i'd assume is more a scorpionic trait then aquarian) either way can lead into insight, but one leads to knowledge of shelf through comparison with others while the other leads knowledge of others while observing self.
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            Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

            Fri, October 19, 2007 - 2:43 PM
            Quite honestly Starfish, besides being an Aquarius I have had almost zero interaction with people born under my own sign. I had an Aqu friend for awhile, about 2 years, but his pushy impulsive Aries moon got to me, coupled with his Aquarius know-it-allness. I decided nothing really good was coming out of it. Other than him, Aquarius has played little role at all in my life. I also haven't had any relationships with people with personal planets in Aquarius either. To tell the truth, Aquarius just doesn't do much for me, but I haev nothing against Aqu people who display the classic traits of their Sun Sign. Usually they are decent people, but just not what I need for personal interaction. More often Aquariuses are just business associates that I have an unually cooperative relationship with because of some mutual way of thinking. It doesn't mean I especially like them. Aquarius seems to be wired into me in such a way that it is just something I am sometimes when the need arises.

            To tell the truth, I'm really not into these posts about narrowing down individual signs. I do basically understand how the signs may operate within a chart, and I know sometimes Sun Signs are especially strong...but also sometimes they aren't AT ALL, for reasons whcih I have come to think of as being a bit like "circuit theory". Everyone has astrological components which could be wired in numerous ways with different results.
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              Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

              Fri, October 19, 2007 - 2:47 PM
              I thought you were an Aquarian FJ?

              ~V~
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                Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                Fri, October 19, 2007 - 3:18 PM
                > I thought you were an Aquarian FJ?

                you mean misunderstood?
                ;-)

                ok, enough emticon-ing for me for one day.
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                  Fri, October 19, 2007 - 3:27 PM
                  Aquarius's ruler ~ Uranus ~ not the most socially 'acceptable' planet
                  old-school ruler ~ Saturn ~ not the most 'easy going' planet
                  Aquarius's mode & element ~ fixed air ~ difficult to describe, kinda like the sill air right before a big lightening storm

                  IMO there are plenty of 'positive' qualities inherent to Aquarius ~ being easily described & understood aren't them ~ *fun* to describe, yes!

                  love all-ways,
                  mem
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                Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:50 PM
                And so stated in the first line of that post, V.
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                  Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                  Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:50 PM
                  (That I'm an Aquarius)
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                    Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:54 PM
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                      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:54 PM
                      your posts
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                        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:54 PM
                        are sometimes a little
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                          which is fine
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                            Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:55 PM
                            and for some reason, you seemd















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                            ya know







                            ~V~
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                              Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                              Tue, October 23, 2007 - 5:35 PM
                              I think your own eccentric Uranus makes you dart around when you read my posts, hoping that you'll have some laser-dissecting electric insight that no one else can see, ~V~ That's how you miss simply-put stuff that's stated in the very beginning!!!! One thing some Aquarians do, and I too have been guilty of, is to try to guess the outcome of everything instead ALLOWING the truth to come out. Aquarius has Aries on the 3rd House cusp, and they tend to be somewhat impatient at times when attempting to feed their heads. Therefore, there is some stuff they miss trying to learn everything at the frequency that they do. That's a lesson I've learned from some really great Taureans...who taught me that not everything can be learned from trying to scan everything at lightspeed. One of the best things any one sign can do to develop himself is to try to work harmoniously with one of the other signs of his quadruplicity...in our case: Taurus, Leo, Scorpio. I have found that some of my superfast Aquarian mental techniques do NOT work with Taurus. Taurus has another way of doing things that I have learned to respect. Smoetimes you just have to chill with the hi-tech apparoach to understanding things because somethings are really...just...SIMPLE...and don't need lasers and Gigahertz-speed equipment to figure it out. If you do, the original simplicity will become garbled, and I believe that's what's happening here. In my case, my Aquarian Sun is located in the 2nd House so I am more down-to-earth than the typical Aquarius, my co-ruler Saturn is also in Taurus. I don't ALWAYS have my hi-tech/hi-speed equipment running, that most Aquariuses seem to use when trying to understand things.

                              But don't take it personally, I too have a tendency to read things from the BACK to FRONT occasionally. Uranus IS, after all, a lop-sided rebel! Generally I just do that with fiction books to kind of reverse-engineer the plot...or maybe I was Hebrew or Chinese in a past life...BEATS ME! But when I read informative stuff I usually read it as written.
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                                Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                                Tue, October 23, 2007 - 5:48 PM
                                Nah, that ain't it.

                                You have spoken at times from a Leo perspective while kind of distancing yourself from Aquarius in a depersonalizing way.

                                I'm obviously the type of Aquarian that stomps around like a big martian tripod shooting laserbeams of Love and Light Blessings to all the blessed creatures in god's great countryside full of sheep.

                                er, yeah.

                                ~V~
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                                  Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                                  Wed, October 24, 2007 - 3:03 PM
                                  I think that IS it...unless you just have ADD, V. You are really the only person in this Tribe who has always such trouble extracting the intended meaning of my posts. I get lots of folks who say my posts really open their eyes, or that they simply understand (in their own words) what I'm getting at. If we speak a different mental language, oh well. But don't blame me because of it. I have no more obligation to change my communication style than you do to LEARN how someone else is communicating. You really seem to have trouble there.

                                  It's a more Leo perspective to imagine yourself as "the type of Aquarian that stomps around like a big martian tripod shooting laserbeams of Love and Light Blessings to all the blessed creatures in god's great countryside full of sheep."

                                  Hmm. I had no idea you liked to think of yourself as a wonderful supernatural being roaming among a flock of sheep. (Thanks for the tip).
                                  At least I don't go around making declarations of my greatness.
                                  I'm too busy just thinking about things and honestly expressing what I see or think I see and I don't need to get so stuck on myself.

                                  No I finally see why you respond to me in the way that you often do!
                                  Thanks.
                                  (And I'm now I'm wondering how Leo is situated in YOUR chart).
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                                    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

                                    Wed, October 24, 2007 - 3:38 PM
                                    What an interesting mis-assessment all around FJ.

                                    I'm not the silly goose tethered to astrological generalities like yourself: that would be you.

                                    That might be the actual basis for my response. In fact, that is the actual basis for my responses

                                    Leo has nothing to do with it: it's not even in my chart, except in the Vedic tradition.

                                    I guess your myopic pattern recognition doesn't apply.

                                    ~V~
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              Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

              Fri, October 19, 2007 - 3:17 PM
              > Everyone has astrological components which could be wired in numerous ways with different results.

              well.. of course!

              i'm a 12 house pisc-arian with a shit load of libra and then some uranian energies that make me nothing like a 'typical' pisces...currently i'm having some major saturn/uranian transits to top it all off.
              but sometimes people are very much their sun sign...and it's more fun to play along with stereotypes rather then constantly fight them on here... of course play as long as they aren't about pisces ;-)
      • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:11 PM
        and then you merry a Taurus
        and are happy for a while until you realise you don't want to be 'mothered ',right ?
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          Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

          Fri, October 19, 2007 - 4:13 PM
          Stop talking about us!

          Just give us lots of money and love....and our freedom... and a science lab and a space ship.........and some other stuff and we'll be just fine!

          ~V~
          • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

            Fri, October 19, 2007 - 9:34 PM
            *Just give us lots of money and love....and our freedom... and a science lab and a space ship.........and some other stuff and we'll be just fine! *

            I can't believe this ...... I want exactly the very same .... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Sat, October 20, 2007 - 2:43 AM
    Hello.

    My name is Ergane J.

    And I misunderstand Aquarians.

    However, I try to keep open to their lessons because I know that, ultimately, I want to be perceived like them. Like the things that sometimes lead to my misunderstandings are the very things that I admire about myself and others seem to hate or want to in some way hurt me for...

    I want to discuss this topic, but I find myself... I'd rather listen. With my MC in Aquarius... that detachment can sometimes feel like I have been smacked on the nose with newspaper... because I am a really warm person and when my warmth is met with... flat, just the facts... well, I have had to learn to do something magical with my feelings around Aquarians because I can be unintentionally hurt and I have lots of Scorp influence and like to hold a grudge... and a Merc/Plu conjunction that likes to strike back.

    I love their dedicatedness. Their shamelessness. THeir ability to bring together ideas and passion. The manner in which they know and own their knowing -- even if it might step on toes. I like their daring and maverick ways.

    ... I feel the need to reach out to some of the neglected Aquarians in my life...
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Sat, October 20, 2007 - 4:55 AM
    I wonder where this idea of the cold, calculating, logical Aquarian comes from. It makes Aquarius sound like Mr. Spock.
    The usual astrological tripe dictates that air signs are not connected to their hearts and are logical etc.
    People are people and sometimes they require a specific catalyst to release their emotions, or demonstrate them. That doesn't make someone cold...it makes them selective, or cautious, insecure perhaps.

    Peace, Bo
    • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Sat, October 20, 2007 - 10:36 AM
      I wonder where this idea of the cold, calculating, logical Aquarian comes from.
      ~~~~~~~~~
      old-school ruler ~ Saturn
      logic ~ air sign

      'air' not known for it's warmth, but for its quickness & ability to move

      love all-ways,
      mem
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Sat, October 20, 2007 - 11:34 AM
        Earth signs are the logic signs. They look at what actually happened, the reality that cannot be denied.

        Air signs are the intellectual signs. They express a unique point of view about what happened, seeing things from different perspectives.

        The type of Aquarius depends on what planets are strong. Aquarius with strong Saturn will be more detached and reserved, Aquarius with strong Mars will be more logical and opinionated, Aquarius with strong Mercury will be more playful and whimsical, Aquarius with strong Venus will be more gracious and diplomatic, etc.

        Dave
        • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

          Sat, October 20, 2007 - 12:00 PM
          Interesting choice of words "Misunderstood"..
          I see Aqu or 11th or Uranus as the individual. We are a group oriented species. Our sense of community. Village. w/in this group, Aqu personifies the differences of each individual. I look at Aqu, Uranus and the 11th for the flavors of unique-ness, a person brings to the Worlds Family.
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            Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

            Sat, October 20, 2007 - 12:14 PM
            I say as long as the Aquarius doesn't form Guru Syndrome.... They are fine by me.....

            I notice in relationships they have a tendency to base their current relationships with their past relationships.... and even start to date people who remind them of the last... though that could be only the handful I run into.
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              Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

              Sat, October 20, 2007 - 5:20 PM
              I've always enjoyed the company of Aquarians, due to the fact that barring any other conflicting placements they aren't always getting all "emotional" on you.....but when they do manage to feel comfortable enough around you and trust you enough to share that side of themselves with you...

              it feels more genuine and real than many other signs can deliver
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:54 PM
      Right?
      It's like how Geminis get a bad rap because of their multifaceted-ness.
      Sometimes they get made out to be two-faced backstabbers...but that is such bullshit. In some cases a person with a back-stabbing nature could benefit from having planets in Gemini because it would confuse people...but it doesn't MEAN they're going to stab anyone in the back.

      Likewise, I think Aquarius needs to be understood in a similar way, as they are both air-signs.
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Sun, October 21, 2007 - 11:58 AM
    My 2 cents:

    Aquarians I know are attracted to "the latest" and "the strange". It seems natural for people to not understand them, then to some degree since the latest and the strange are things most people do not understand well, aren't used to, and often are uncomfortable with.

    With my aquarian friends and family, I find I can understand them fair enough...it is just sometimes tricky to understand whay they are talking about or where they are going with some thing or where some thing came from sometimes.
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Mon, October 22, 2007 - 2:05 AM
    Hi petra. here is my personal experience on misunderstanding aquarians...

    As a scorpio sun conjunct uranus, moon trine uranus, and 7th house in aquarius, I'd always empathized with aquarians. I'd always been somewhat of a rebellious, free-spirited soul myself. But despite this, for the longest time I never felt as good at pinning aquarians down as I'd felt for the rest of the horoscope. Aquarians have figured prominently in my life in one way or another so I feel fortunate to have been exposed long enough to better understand them, and through them, understand myself

    Virtually all aquarians I've encountered had in common the uncanny ability to verbalize my own feelings better than any other sign; even better than I could myself. I felt mystified by this almost superhuman intelligence (or at least this was how i characterized what aspect of aquarius I couldn't grasp). I now feel that I misunderstood them for the very same reason I empathized with them. My scorpionic tendency to personalize things in order to gain insight, (as opposed to the aquarian tendency to depersonalize and universalize) clouded my view. What I didn't realize then was that the conclusions/commentary that many aquarians make tend to be universal in nature - they tend to connect with and verbalize an essential nature of humanity which ties all of us together; an essence that many non-aquarians who are less capable of seeing or verbalizing in these universal terms unwittingly personalize (as I had) into being an appraisal or criticism of themselves, for better or worse. I had the tendency to take the aquarian commentary (and there is plenty of that to go around!) as a direct appraisal of my fragile scorpionic ego. I don't doubt that those with less "universal-minded" chart aspects misappropriate aquarian commentary as personal critique when in fact no directed critique was intended to begin with. The aquarian is more like an advocate for those deep-seated feelings that the other 11 signs are incapable of acknowledging, admitting, or verbalizing for whatever reason, but share, and in many ways, aquarians are shallowly attributed to rebelliousness and nonconformity because its almost as though they represent those parts of us which we are unable to/refuse to acknowledge.

    In other words aquarians champion uncomfortable truths which we have grown comfortable ignoring, truths we have to set free in order to grow, and truths that more of us share in common than we are willing to realize. They put things out into the open and get the ball of humanity rolling forward, so to speak.
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 2:12 AM
      oh, I forgot to mention a key point about individuality. Aquarians, by finding those essential common threads, highlight how differences can be accomodated. Their nature is to promote accomodated individuality; to depart from historic intolerances.
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 7:28 AM
        Their nature is to promote accomodated individuality; to depart from historic intolerances. >>>

        nicely said
      • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:21 PM
        Hi Ned, thanks for the great insight on Aquarians! I felt like I learned some things about myself! Maybe thats why I like to be in the company of Scorps...they "get us" and let us be quirky and experimental without batting an eyelash.

        Oh, and they seem to understand our high standards for friendship and loyalty...also a Plus.

        It's nice to feel understood, and even though we are so independant and giving, we can feel insecure, so it's nice when other signs see the vulnerability and gentleness as something to protect, rather than to take advantage of.
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 8:15 AM
      Aquarians seem to be like guardian angels towards me. As I got Jupiter in Aquarius... as my only air planet in the 5th house.... With bunches in Cancer and Virgo...Cancer ruling over the 11th.

      I always love the endless debates.... Im a sucker for conversation... Cancer Mercury, Taurus Venus... With Uranus floating in the 3rd house Sagittarius and only fire planet.

      Air just goes with the flow.... just as much as water does... Air doesn't get trapped and rises above. Water sinks and molds to the ground.
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 9:20 AM
      i absolutely love what you said and how you said it 'ned'.
      they are indeed very universal rather then personal...this is what i absolutely love about aquarians, once i learned to take my ego out of the equation ...which was really difficult as a teenage pisces with an aquarian mom!
      if someone is not fully understanding the aquarian, they could ask the question back, or get them to rephrase it. aquarians that i've known are mroe then happy to clarify what they said because they want to be understood.

      • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:27 PM
        I have Aqu on H8 (a house I still don't understand) so i'm trying to take what you guys are saying and apply it.

        however, I will say that i get along famously with Aqu's. two of my good friends are Aqu's and while my Taurus nature would like them to be alittle more grounded and predictable, I think my Libra moon loves how, once you get them started, my Aqu friends will talk the heck out of their emotions trying to break them down. and they are strange, but I love it. my one Aqu friend sends me the stupidest jokes ever created in an e-mail spam, himself finding them hilarious. I find that individuality endearing, frankly. what I don't like about them is that they are very judgmental. not only to others, but they tend to be really hard on themselves for "not fitting in" or "going with the flow." it's like they know they are different, but do anything but embrace that diversity. Also, they always have to make themselves busy with something and they need sleep like a motherf*cker. another thing my Aqu friends do is talk alot about relationships. how they want to be in one and how they want more friends and even if the prospect of one comes up, they don't want to spend the energy on it. it's very wierd. my one friend always jokes (?) "I want a girlfriend I only have to talk to two, three times a week." lol i'm like good luck with that.
  • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:12 PM
    The only thing you really need to understand about Aquarius is that they enjoy being different and need variety, excitement. There is not much worse than to be considered "normal." Also, Aquarius can be a genius in some area of life. Scorpio squares Aquarius, and anyone with a strong Aquarius will not tolerate being controlled. This is where the detachment and rebellion will show.
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:16 PM
      That's true.

      Just ask my Mom.

      But she isn't exactly real keen on being controlled or managed either, or normal for that matter, but she's a Pisces.

      ~V~
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:32 PM
        There is this oh so slight difference between being controlled and letting people think they control you.

        There is also a slight minor nuance between separating from the norm in "an approved or appropriate way" and hoping others follow you
        and simply separating from the norm because you feel it is right to do so and not caring if others approve or even notice.

        People can understand the choices you make and emotional reactions even if they don't have a clue what you are talking about.
        People can also clearly understand what you are saying but have no idea how or what you are feeling and why you act a certain way.
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      Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

      Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:25 PM
      Good grief. That is kind of wrong-o! I'm an Aquarius see...
      ...and I kind of enjoy being conservative and down-to-earth in the way that I dress.
      I also would considerate it somewhat of a compliment to be called normal.
      When I was younger I didn't always have the greatest eye for style-matching in clothes. People thought I was wierd, but I really just had trouble accessing my aesthetic judgement. Now I'm quite the opposite.

      Heh heh!
      Today it's a blue polo-shirt, beige corderoy pants, and beige sneakers.
      Doesn't attract attention, and I am very happy with that. I don't WANT to attract attention to myself. I realize that being conservative is the best way to go about this. The only thing about me which might attract attention today is my floppy denim Corona beer hat...which I'm wearing because I have a severe case of "bad hair" at the moment!!! ;-)
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        Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:36 PM
        I've always been a clothes horse.

        And when I was young, I did - on occasion - dress a little strangely - in some odd attempt at fitting in with people who...dressed strangely and had no taste. But mostly I like classic, elegant clothing with a twist that I can dress up or down and thus, express my own aesthetic sensibility.

        Ah, some of the tongue in cheek, playful battles with bosses over wearing a tie way back when.

        "~V~, you have to wear a tie - this is a more conservative environment"

        "Well, no, actually I don't. I know how to dress myself very nicely."

        "Besides, it doesn't match my outfit."

        "But you have to!"

        "No, I don't have to do that! It's tacky and irrelevant and conformist!"

        "Yes!"

        "No!"

        (sigh)

        ~V~
      • Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

        Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:40 PM
        "Virtually all aquarians I've encountered had in common the uncanny ability to verbalize my own feelings better than any other sign; even better than I could myself."

        Ya,, well. the Guy has this Big bucket of Water, don't ya know....
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    Re: Misunderstood Aquarius

    Tue, October 23, 2007 - 10:24 AM
    <I find that Aquarius people are often misunderstood by others.>

    Most Aquarius people are terrorists, aren't they?

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