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Hey, you guys! I just had this idea. Do you think that the existence of human kind revolves around the stages of each sign of the zodiac? Like, for those who believe in human evolution, humans started out as Aries-like, starters and revoluntaries, building technology such as the spares, ships,swords,etc during the Stone and Bronze Ages. Aries is the sign of the ram, the explorer; humans conquered new worlds, new kingdoms, and slaughtered millions in the process. Then moving up as Geminis and Virgo, we began to thrive on empirical and practical knowledge, writing the best literature and drawing the most inspirational art of all time. But it seems that human kind goes a very long way to go to achieve the Piscean way of life-compassion, self-sacrifice, and peace. Whether you are a Roman Catholics, Zen Buddhist, or atheist, everyone tries to find inner peace and tranquility within ourselves so that they could spread it across the world and for generations to come. But, wars, political conflict and political corruption prohibits us to achieve these means. I think we are in between the Scorpio and Capricorn spectrum, where ruthlessness and greed still reign our public and private domains of life. What do you think? I want negative and positive feedback! That is all.
Lady Remi
Queen of Scotland
Lady Remi
Queen of Scotland
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:14 PMthat pretty much is what it's all about... signs, houses, planets... they all point to that, essentially. Like a spiral of existance. At least that's what I've gathered... -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:26 PMI also wonder, if human kind find that compassion and love, will the cycle start all over again? -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:35 PMthat or the end of the world. or both simultaniously... oh mr. pluto!
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:41 PMInteresting concept...never thought of it like that :)
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:38 PMi don't see astrology as a hierarchy, where certain signs are more evolved than other signs (except maybe Scorpio, ha!) or as a strictly linear progression of stages, though it's certainly fun to view it that way. i see astrology more as a radial, non-linear expression of the Infinite where all the signs symbolize autonomous archetypes spinning simultaenously in their own integrity, power and numinosity in constant communication with each other like the miraculous interactions of the self-governing heavenly bodies they reflect.
as for human life, heh, it seems to me that we are not fully human yet. we are a little like imposters or like little kids playing dress up in front of a hall of mirrors. we have a long way to go as a species. as for who we actually might be, i think it's more iike we might be spiritual beings ravenous for certain essential human experiences to nurture our deepening embodiment into the human condition.
i also think natal Pluto symbolizes this spiritual process of embodying the human condition. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:53 PMI didn't hear anything about one sign being more or less developed than another. To say that it implies something derogatory to have a linear state... it is just as if you see a child crying over losing a toy and wanting it back, and saying that child is undeveloped because it doesn't understand why it can't have the toy, etc. but in reality there is nothing undeveloped about experiencing a particular state of conciousness, even crying over a toy, and shouldn't be looked down upon in that manner. it is more the state of not moving, not developing at all, that should be deterred... If that makes any sense.
But I agree with what you say, and the pretty way you said it. :)
As far as humanity goes... a friend of mine said something that really stuck with me: "death is the root of human survival, so once you face death and be ok with it, then the fear of death is gone and you're not human anymore. " -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 5:00 PMre: ""death is the root of human survival, so once you face death and be ok with it, then the fear of death is gone and you're not human anymore. ""
au contraire. releasing the fear of death opens the very portals to our humanity by the very blossoms of intimacy and compassion that grow for each other. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 5:09 PMdeath is usually associated with seperation... unless we are not actually human when we fear death, and seperating from that fear leads us to actual humanity... not quite sure what you mean by "the very blossoms of intimacy..." do you mean on realizing that we must seperate in body?
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 5:37 PMi do not refer to any concept or system when i say that releasing the fear of death opens the very portals to our humanity by the very blossoms of intimacy and compassion that grow for each other. the actual experience of becoming separated from a loved one -- suffering that loss due to a death -- carries unforeseen gifts, some which keep on giving.
surviving the death of loved ones transforms us; in some way, we are never the same, can never be the same. the world often opens up in unexpected ways after deep losses, especially for those not yet captivated by self-pity and who are awakening to the gift of life itself.
now, if we are talking about the experience of death itself, that is unknowable (though we can write and speak of it in metaphor, poetics or symbolically). fear of death turns out be fear of loss, of losing control and/or fear of the unknown. this fear is exposed as an illusion when we realize that nothing can be lost that was never ours, nothing can be controlled that was always free and nothing can be dead certain in the face of true mystery. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 5:58 PM"As for human life, heh, it seems to me that we are not fully human yet. we are a little like imposters or like little kids playing dress up in front of a hall of mirrors. we have a long way to go as a species. as for who we actually might be, i think it's more iike we might be spiritual beings ravenous for certain essential human experiences to nurture our deepening embodiment into the human condition."
It's weird that humans have been living on this earth for millions of years supposedly but we have a long way to go in terms of becoming these spiritual, mature beings.
"Now, if we are talking about the experience of death itself, that is unknowable (though we can write and speak of it in metaphor, poetics or symbolically). fear of death turns out be fear of loss, of losing control and/or fear of the unknown. this fear is exposed as an illusion when we realize that nothing can be lost that was never ours, nothing can be controlled that was always free and nothing can be dead certain in the face of true mystery."
SOOOO TRUE!! Although, we have to accept death and its consequences (if you look at it on the surface), sometimes it is nice to live in that illusion. But for this who don't are truly human. For me, let's just say that I have a very long way to go. lol. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:19 PMre: "It's weird that humans have been living on this earth for millions of years supposedly but we have a long way to go in terms of becoming these spiritual, mature beings. "
yeah, you'd think that after 2 millions years we'd all be enlightened to who we truly are and why we are actually here. but when i consider the unfathomable tragic depth of human ignorance and the very, very, very slow slow slow rate of species evolution, it's easier to see the fate of our current predicament.
we don't know who we are or why we are here. it's all unknown, don't y'know ?
we can pretend to know -- and often times forget we are pretending -- to secure our sense of certainty with elaborate manmade maps -- astrology, religion, science, systems theory -- that claim to provide answers to such big questions as "Who am I ?" and "Why am I here ?" and "Where did I come from ?" and "What am I going to do for the rest of my life ?". who was it that said, "only madmen and lunatics are totally sure about anything" ?
at the end of the day, it's all unknown and life is what you make of it and what you put into it, is what you get out of it.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:41 PMSherpa, I think we need to speed up human evolution! Whose with me!?! lmao.
I think the reason humans develop at a very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very slow rate is because we are some point in our lives are shallow and just very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very slow, basically. But I do not want to wait another 2 million years or so! I want it now!! *crying like a little girl*. I want my mommy!*goes back to her delusional world full with ignorant people. because it feels safe*
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:46 PMit's ok:
we're all crystal children or something.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 8:13 PMWe can all evolve as quickly as we choose to, I think. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 9:05 PM"We can all evolve as quickly as we choose to, I think.":
I Agree,
and more importantly we are doing exactly that - evolving as quickly as we choose to.
Tragedy may be the truth of some, but it is not "universal truth". The universe unfolds perfectly to those with the eyes to see. Just because the human mind does not understand everything that happens does not make it wrong, tragic or anything else.
One of my teachers says: (pp) "a main problem with modern culture is people are pretending to be asleep. if they were actually asleep it would be easy for them to wake up. But as long as they pretend to be asleep they will remain alseep. That is why people only respond to or recognize pretentiousness. Once you become authentic and truthful and admit that you do not understand, it becomes very easy to wake up and see the truth."
There are human beings on this earth now who are fully developed, fully God conscious beings that we can learn from.
Learning from those more spiritually advanced than us is not very sexy or tragically hip though - and does nothing to feed the illusions we are so comforted by. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 10:06 PMThere are human beings on this earth now who are fully developed, fully God conscious beings that we can learn from.
What's her name, Sam ? -
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 12:46 AM
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 8:56 AMHer name is Willow. ;)
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 10:12 AMYeah... it seems like something that is really right under everyone's nose... the human mind with these systems attaches values and ideas to life in an attempt to control and understand it, with that fear of death spawning out of it... there is always the realization that despite these systems, there is still no control... so what then, was the point of understanding?
Being considered children doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Children have little control over their lives, and are free to exist in the wonderment of the world because they haven't learned that it's supposed to be this way or that way. Then it seems to be the best time to truly understand life for what it is, and not what we want it to be... to be okay with not understanding, just knowing from experiencing (not empirical knowledge, but being very... familiar, so speak) and being receptive.
It's always been a wholly uncomfortable feeling for me, though. Like something stuck on the tip of my tongue... "I'm supposed to understand something here.. but I don't, I just... feel it there and know it." Mind racing, trying to put words to something beyond words, asign a value, set up a plan.
Sometimes we can experience that moment of divine grace, where everything just happens and we do not fight it. We go along gladly, but don't lose our autonomy, either. I don't know if would be as precious if it was a constant state of existance. That is why people have to grow up... figure out that there is nothing to figure out.
There is my waxing for the morning. Also, Sada, I dunno what you're talking about, the Dali Lhama is sexy supreme! -
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 1:33 PMAmma is one of many enlightened beings who, once established in the real Self, live in this world of bliss.
There are many others, some popular - others nameless who are also established in the true Self of Bliss.
I have personally seen her sit in the same spot hugging and giving love for more than fourteen hours straight without eating or stopping to go to the bathroom probably 30 or 40 times now. She has been doing it for over 20 years now, nonstop.
here is an interview and video of her giving Darshan in NYC a few years ago - www.youtube.com/watch
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 2:36 PMre: "I have personally seen her sit in the same spot hugging and giving love for more than fourteen hours straight without eating or stopping to go to the bathroom probably 30 or 40 times now."
30 or 40 times...wow.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 8:41 PMYeah, I'm not really into enlightened being versus unenlightened being.
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 8:42 PMIn other words...Pisces ain't the end of the cycle.
And there are many, many ways to give love to the Earth and its inhabitants...not just guru-style.
Nothing against gurus...I just think it's counter-productive to think of enlightenment as existing in only one form...that Piscean lovin' kind of thing. -
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 11:25 PMA little kid gathers up some snow and roles it into a small ball, then roles it down the hill. As it picks up speed gathering snow, becomes larger and larger, the momentum carries it faster and faster and it gets bigger and bigger, till it reaches the trees and smashes into them and breaks apart into a million pieces. The sun shines and melts the snow into the ground, it seeps in past the many layers of earth, the gets pushed out be the weight of the earth, then flows down to the ocean. The sun evaporates the water, and carries it up to the mountains, were it snows…
A little kid gathers up some snow and roles it into a small ball, then roles it down the hill. As it picks up speed gathering snow becomes larger and larger, the momentum carries it faster and faster and it gets bigger and bigger, till it reaches the trees and smashes into them and breaks apart into a million pieces………………………………………
Just jumped into my head…maybe it’s late..past my bed time…
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Sun, September 9, 2007 - 6:25 PMHey willow,
I agree with what you write here.
I was speaking about a teacher for those who see life as being bleak, dark and depressing, etc. I have never sought out a guru - in spite of many hardships. The guru funds you when you are ready (so they say) However, spending time in the presence of such rare beings is important to me also these days. I still have things to learn and I am not ashamed to admit it.
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Sun, September 9, 2007 - 6:26 PM'You must have been in some deep pain to need so much love."
you assume a lot, Antero.
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Sun, September 9, 2007 - 6:28 PM"I have personally seen her sit in the same spot hugging and giving love for more than fourteen hours straight without eating or stopping to go to the bathroom probably 30 or 40 times now."
My assumption that you were "in a lot of pain to need so much love" was based on your statement (see above). -
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:31 PMIt's nice to see that there are people giving love to those who need it...I don't think Sada is necessarily one of them. Just a witness?
You're right, Sada, when you say that this is quite amazing because it's pretty draining to have the love-o-meter on for strangers all the time. It must be this woman's guided mission. She's protected to act in this way, maybe? -
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 10:20 AMDear Willow,
you said:
"It must be this woman's guided mission. She's protected to act in this way, maybe?"
Yes that is a good way to look at it. From our perspective, we would certainly need protection, both literally and figuratively. People have literally tried to kill Amma many times, to no avail. She has drank poison in front of her enemies to show them who she is. (not the body) But also the energy exchange of her hugging is not something any of us could do for very long. We would be going through the attraction / aversion emotions the whole time. "This person is repulsive, this person is hot" stuff. Amma has sucked the pus out of the sores of lepers, consoled hideously disfigured burn victims and others that most of us could not embrace due to our physical aversions. And even on a typical level you see how the outer appearances do not matter to her at all. Old, Young, Attractive, Disfigured, it makes no difference. She embraces one after the next - hour after hour - laughing, effortlessly giving, crying with them, whatever they need.
In many ways, she IS the protection. In the Eastern sense we all have the protection in us. The only difference between great souls (mahatma's) like Amma and people like you and me is she knows how to channel the infinite power of her true Self and we do not yet. As you understand, we are all great souls, but it is in seed form in us. To mahatmas like Amma, the seed has sprouted into the tree of full Self realization. it is not just an intellectual idea, it is lived and embodied. That is why her body and what she does with it defies physical laws. Food, sleep, bathroom breaks are nothing to Amma. And i mean NOTHING. Stated in another way, she does not need protection because she has merged with all. Demonic spirit forces or other entities that would scare us and that we would need protection from are also her children. Her bad, invisible children! - HAHA.
Her life on Earth is for us - her sacrifice is to show us who we really are and inspire us to all that we can be. She is a celestial being in a human body. The energy she pushes through that human body does not come from food or sustenance in any worldly sense. A great being like Amma has to be experienced. After than many questions get answered. -
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 11:13 AMspoken like a true devotee -
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 1:19 PM>>I am not motivated by pain. Are you?<<
the immediate context aside, that's an absurd statement.
have you ever touched a hot stove and not been motivated to remove your hand? -
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 1:46 PMzdevo,
you wrote:
">>I am not motivated by pain. Are you?<<
the immediate context aside, that's an absurd statement.
have you ever touched a hot stove and not been motivated to remove your hand?"
Good point! - of course pain is a motivator, but for what?
Context is everything in this case.
The comment by me was made in response to a false assumption that i must have been in a lot of pain to keep returning to the same situation over and over again - that i was motivated by pain to be in the presence of this great being who showers love.
I said no - I am not motivated by pain (in this way).
Pain teaches us to avoid what hurts, not willingly embrace it - like in your example about the stove.
That would be like willingly sticking our hand in the fire over and over again.
Read the thread again and you'll see that was the intent behind my comment.
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 5:52 PMWow, Sada...it's quite presumptuous of you to assume that this "soul greatness" is in seed form in us but is fully realized only in this woman you seem to idolize.
I know who I am. And honestly, gurus ain't got nothing on me. (Or on many of us in this tribe, I'm sure.) Some of us don't need to do tricks for the masses or perform in the stereotypical guru fashion. How we serve in divine love as divine beings takes on different forms. I have Pisces South Node in the 9th house, and I'm fully aware. -
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 6:33 PMMe too I am fully aware and sorry to tell you all I have no guru , know pleanty of ordained people and I am whole. Terrible thing to admit. This day and age. The questions was....Do you think the existence of human kind revolves around each sign of the zodiac. Well Wolfolk "The Only Book on Astrology You Will Ever Need" (did me fool get the title right) talks extensively about the ages and the ages are exquisate and fascinating. Why not have ages in which humans play out different scenes of what it is to be human? Remi-Love's statemennt
< we have to accept death and its consequences > is interesting. More than interestin It is inevitable for all of us. And so what is the worry of human evolotion? Homo Sapien Sapien will most probably be replaced by some species and perhaps the wonder, magnifigance and beauty of the stars and their placements will not be as important! Could you imagine a species that does not find the stars and star gazing so enjoyable. So enjoy it now. Each age has it's strengths and it's weeknessess that has both built empires and brought about their demise. Like most chains each link is important. A person's greatest weakness is often their greatest strength. Each age has it's own glory and it's own shame. Christmas I can talk too much. But did I plug the "Age of Aquarius" again because it is the age we are entering an infancy. Look back on Pisces what was the accomplishments of the Piscean age and what are the weaknesses. What was the Arian age and what was strength in the Arian age what were the weaknesses. The one thing that I will say as didactive about Aquarius is that mind reading will be an accomplishment that will have to be enforced it will not come easily and you can control your own mind. NO matter how much they load into it. You own your own head. Revel in it. Wolfolks book is worth the read for this info.
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 6:41 PMI know that one of the weaknesses of the Piscean Age was the way people sought a guru...someone to follow, someone to hand their own personal spiritual power over to, someone to look up to as a "more enlightened" being...a "more perfect, more spiritual, more loving, more whatever" being than they themselves are. This is false idolhood, in my opinion, and diverts energy from where it is needed - the remembrance in every human being of who he/she is and why he/she has incarnated. We do not need to look outside ourselves to find God...
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 6:48 PMSo Sada...if you need to experience "Amma" in your life to understand spiritual love, that's fine.
I don't. Many people don't. So kindly discontinue projecting your own consciousness level on the rest of us. To me, it's old paradigm. -
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 8:36 PMI prefer the Sufi vision of spirituality that finds (not seeks) the human in the divine and the divine within the human as interchangeable spirits embodying their lives as one. -
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 12:59 AMI don't mind people projecting their stuff onto a group. That is what the group is for. That is why beginners feel like total tards buying books w/titles like "the only book on astrology you'll ever need." Everyone has some information that is pertinent. It's okay to set boundries. We all have them.
Now I'll go post some more stuff somewhere else.
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 7:23 AMIf I'm not mistaken, sufis believe one must study under a "teacher" and belong to a group of other sufis in order to reach enlightenment. Again, not something I personally support. :) -
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 7:24 AMOf course, you and anyone else is free to. -
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 7:40 AM...ARE free to.
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 8:02 AM"I don't mind people projecting their stuff onto a group. That is what the group is for."
When I see a self-proclaimed astrology teacher doing something so lazy as making presumptuous and false blanket statements about the consciousness level of entire groups of people...I have to put my foot down. No, I don't think that's what this tribe, in particular, is for...maybe that's just me.
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 8:23 AMHow many theorist does it take to change a light bulb?
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 10:10 AMre: "If I'm not mistaken, sufis believe one must study under a "teacher" and belong to a group of other sufis in order to reach enlightenment. Again, not something I personally support. :)"
Actually you are mistaken, at least partially. There are many Sufi paths. Some study under teachers, others with a group and some go solo. But there is no "must" to do this or that and no push to reach "enlightenment". It is more a devotional way of life.
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 4:51 PM"How many theorist does it take to change a light bulb? "...LOL
no one knows, their still discussing it
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 6:52 PMI've recently grown to consider the Earth's sign as the Cross in the center of the circle as a representation of the astrological cross - quadrating the Archetypal selves, surrounded by the 5th - "spirit, ourobos, mobius strip"
The reason the Sun gets depicted as a dot in the center of said circle, I think, relates to the fact that our conscious self exists in the center of the cross - the cross-roads, as it were - able to move ourselves to any extremity as it suits us, ever shifting.
The Mandala, I've come to realize, represents a balanced and harmonious human (or otherwise) psyche - all the voices speaking as a community - none dominating any other (non-heirarchal) all supporting and contributing evenly.
So, while I certainly consider the signs as a map, as it were, I hardly consider it linear.
All about the point of the Pentagram - Spirit - Connectivity - for me.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 10:38 AMI've come to feel that we should never become complacent.
When we do...we stop "evolving" (to use that word)...we stop learning...we stop growing.
Enlightened...sure. Wiser...hopefully. But don't stop asking questions...don't stop evaluating things through a different lens...just don't stop, period.
I see the astrological signs are archetypes of individual strengths and weaknesses, not a progression of a lesser to a "better" more "evolved" sign.
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 2:09 PM(Since this seems to be mostly randomness... I decided to write in rambling thoughts....)
God...Kill me already.... and feed me to the crocodiles...
Commuication, agricultural advancements, and accessable water to most in the world....is a pretty amazing feat!
To me the key to life... is the ability to entertain yourself.... The ability to actually enjoy your own company from time-to-time... Working with changing your own world... opposed to the world at large. Baby steps!
What does evolution do for us in the first place? What does this evolution deem us to? Some paradise where everything is love and light? What challanges me? What tests me? What motivates me for tomarrow? That is what I wonder about.... This phrase makes me wonder..."why do bad things happen to good people"... My reponse to that one... is to remind you why you wanted the goods in the first place. Evolution... Devolution... It happens... I thank my thumb.... for its flexablity and ability to bend into my palm!!
You know how they say that we only use only 5% of our brains? Think of using 10%... BORING... You wouldn't forget anything... Remember everything to the point that there wouldn't be a need to express that thought, or action anymore. I think sometimes we forget... because we all wouldn't have the ability to recapture a moment and express it the same way anymore. The most oblivious reason that comes to my mind.... I don't care what I ate last month, and some of the best memories are the ones you forget (and usally for good reasons!).
How much of the evolution chain are we supposed to go? To me 2 millon years isn't that long... And Earth has been known to distory the creatures up above... like a bird throwing her chicks outta the birdnest to learn how to fly.
I went to this meeting a couple months back about the Sun being a binary star.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...bit5.gif ... When two objects of the same magnetism come into contact with eachothers... It works like that picture on the link above... is repulsed, yet pulled in at the same time...
This was a pretty intresting read.... food for thought!
The Binary Research Institute (BRI) has found that orbital characteristics of the recently discovered planetoid, "Sedna", demonstrate the possibility that our sun might be part of a binary star system. A binary star system consists of two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. Once thought to be highly unusual, such systems are now considered to be common in the Milky Way galaxy.
Walter Cruttenden at BRI, Professor Richard Muller at UC Berkeley, Dr. Daniel Whitmire of the University of Louisiana, amongst several others, have long speculated on the possibility that our sun might have an as yet undiscovered companion. Most of the evidence has been statistical rather than physical. The recent discovery of Sedna, a small planet like object first detected by Cal Tech astronomer Dr. Michael Brown, provides what could be indirect physical evidence of a solar companion. Matching the recent findings by Dr. Brown, showing that Sedna moves in a highly unusual elliptical orbit, Cruttenden has determined that Sedna moves in resonance with previously published orbital data for a hypothetical companion star.
In the May 2006 issue of Discover, Dr. Brown stated: "Sedna shouldn't be there. There's no way to put Sedna where it is. It never comes close enough to be affected by the sun, but it never goes far enough away from the sun to be affected by other stars... Sedna is stuck, frozen in place; there's no way to move it, basically there's no way to put it there – unless it formed there. But it's in a very elliptical orbit like that. It simply can't be there. There's no possible way - except it is. So how, then?"
"I'm thinking it was placed there in the earliest history of the solar system. I'm thinking it could have gotten there if there used to be stars a lot closer than they are now and those stars affected Sedna on the outer part of its orbit and then later on moved away. So I call Sedna a fossil record of the earliest solar system. Eventually, when other fossil records are found, Sedna will help tell us how the sun formed and the number of stars that were close to the sun when it formed."
The world was once flat... because enough people belived it.... And it was flat! Then they discovered it was round... out with the old in with the new.... and If I must say... I see a pretty flat world around me forming...Seems like there just isn't enough "Time"... -
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 5:04 PMLOL....
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 7:20 AMREmi,
Yeah but you'll stump the masses with the term evolution part -each age had certain emphasis and the a larger group/ society collected informastion from and expressed in the lens of such trends -we grow and learn from experiences because that is what we do as humans .
There is plenty written about this astrologically and the ages -procession of the ages would be a good way to further investigate.
Think in ways that a sociologist does more so than a psychologist or clergy and you find all kind of intersting things about it.
it how we adapt as individuals to the current astrrological age rays yes?
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 1:56 AMAstrology cultural parental and genetic influence all have a say regarding the quest for contentment, enlightenment , arriving to the peak of evolution or bowing down to the nakednes and purity of this moment, or whatever you want to call it.
As far as l can see, the mind deals with past events and future possibilities, so as long as l am in the missunderstanding that l am the mind then l will always feel that l am a day away from where l want to be, the main value of the mind seeking enlightenment is to come to a point where we come to see the fulility of it.
we have always been who we really are, how can we be who we are not, its a case of mistaken identity.Through the ages there have always been a few who accidentaly acknowleged that fact and through that acknowledgement a shift of perspective, or consiousness if ya like, has taken place.
Regarding amaji and the others, sure it feels good to be a part of something special going somewhere special, getting the hug feeling the love, seeing it become a rememberance and then waiting for her to come again, but what comes and goes surely cannot be who we are, it must be an experience, and they all come and go.Not much more valuable than supporting a football team, all helps give a sense of purpose, but will always keep one against the apposing teams, if ya know what l mean, why not just enjoy the purposlessness of it all, the last line is an affirmation to my own mind
An indian guy, ok.. mystic, once said , a mind seeking enlightenment is like a thief dressing up as a policeman to catch a thief
one day in the future l will be in this moment, LOL, ime more humble that you, and l also came second in the world vipassana championships
I wonder that if a couple of poeple 150 years ago had sat together brainstorming about what might be happening in on the planet in 2007 regarding evolution, lf they would have suggested that contraptions would be operated by remote control on mars,
The point l am making is maybe there will be an inner transformation as radical as the outer transformation over the last 100 years, and the real powers that be will decide it is time to move from human doings to human beings , and the mind will take its rightfull place as a secondary thing, personality ,persona, mask,
Having read what l wrote l see its more related to the posts a bit back, regarding the last post,.,l would love to think you are right regarding your statement............we grow from experiences.........what poeple used to do with clubs and arrows to each other they still do by other means, computor guided missiles, if you have them.
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:52 AMthe mind is a liar and a whore
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Re: The Signs of the Zodiac and the Stages of Human Life
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 4:17 AMvery beautifully worded poetic clip, the mind is a liar and a hoar??? mmm? what would we be without it? l preffer to see it as a servant in the missunderstanding that it is the master.
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when the mind is not a liar and a whore
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 4:28 AMthe mind that learns to see through itself is not a liar and a whore anymore. the mind that can serve something greater than itself is not a liar and a whore anymore. the mind that is re-minded of its status as an interpretor, rather than the creator, is not a liar and a whore anymore.
"the mind is a liar and a whore", part 2
www.youtube.com/watch
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