Leo/Virgo Cusp, Pieces Moon

topic posted Wed, August 15, 2007 - 9:59 AM by  Katrina
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Anyone else have experience with people that are of this type or are this type? : ) What have you noticed about their personality and habits? I feel like Leo/Virgo cusps are sometimes confused and complicated people yet when they find their life's purpose, are unstoppable. The problem is finding that purpose for these people.

The Pieces Moon aspect blends well with this Cusp but unfortunately, if the individual has been brought up in certain standards or strict religious beliefs, breaking out of those molds is very painful. Especially letting go of what this person "thought" was "right" (Virgo rearing it's head there... Leo adding it's strength and sometimes pig headed nature to Virgo's ideals) This sign tends to be very hard on people in it's life and itself more than anything but there seems an internal compass (Pieces Moon) that is always running underneath the radar to try and steer this sign towards what it's purpose is. I think that if this sign could let go of expectations and "ideals" that the Pieces Moon aspect could really shine through and a wonderfully Spiritual person could be born.

Your insights on the Leo/Virgo Cusp, Pieces Moon please?

Katrina
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    Re: Leo/Virgo Cusp, Pisces Moon

    Wed, August 15, 2007 - 12:30 PM
    Wow, are there many of us out there? My birthday is next week!! I'm definitely a Lergo (LEO+Virgo=Lergo, it's like a Liger, but better!) w/Pisces moon. Yes, I'm often confused...but very driven when I have a goal in mind! I don't really consider myself very complex...but I do have a curious combination of Leo/Virgo characteristics...I always say I have only the good traits of each sign and none of the bad traits (I guess that's the Leo in me!). I'm usually introverted, but sometimes I'm extroverted.

    I read somewhere recently (on this tribe I think) that someone didn't believe that cuspers actually exist...well that's just hogwash. I'm actually a Leo (born on 8/22), but I tend to lean towards Virgo traits more. I'm very analytical, I plan everything out, I am a compulsive cleaner, I need order in my life. But I'm also a sun worshiper, I'm very loyal, I like to look good and I love to have lots of fun! However, I don't think I really need to be the center of attention like some Leos.

    Typically, I love most other LEOs, but there have been a few Leo men whom I absolutely couldn't stand to be around. I'm definitely attracted to Gemini men, which has never worked out for me. Most of my good friends are Aries, Taurus, & Scorpios.

    As for the Pisces moon, I don't even know what that does to my personality...I've always been more mature and responsible than most people my age...but other than that, I don't know much about the sign. I'd really like to know more about how this might affect my personality.
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    Wed, August 15, 2007 - 1:23 PM
    First off.. oops on the mis spelling of Pisces.. Can ya tell I'm new round these parts?! : )

    My husband (and first real boyfriend) was an Aries. After I was divorced the first man I was attracted to who is also my boyfriend of 3 years now, is a Taurus.. So I found it funny when I saw that correlation between other signs that you resonate well with too : )

    I too read that post and I am a living testament of what a Leo / Virgo Cusp is. I think they can balance eachother out beautifully but they can also be very destructive together, maybe depending on the rest of the chart and major life influences. I'm the 23rd of August @ 2:31pm. Smack dab in the middle. I feel such a pull from both. The need to feel special fits me to a T.. I'll put off cleaning but then freak out on my house because the clutter makes me crazy.. at that point you'll find me labelling my life. But then, I won't keep up with it. lol I get so frustrated.. Some I know is how I was brought up however. I had NO decent influences, the only ones that were positive were some of my teachers who would occasionally bring a lunch for me because my Dad never did & my Grandmother whom I lived with for a a couple years while I was little because my Mom & Dad were "out there" looking for theirselves.

    The Pisces Moon aspect is really really intersting to me probably because the tendencies fit me to a T. I feel as though my Moon sigh is stronger and the Me of Me than any other part of my chart.

    I'll write you the Karmic point of view of Pisces Moon
    Judy Hall writes

    "This Moon remembers at a Soul level what it was to have soul and Self joined with the Divine. In the past, however, the Soul sought this Union through another person. The desire to be united may be so strong that any union, no matter how imperfect, is clung to-and hence relationships can be far from perfect. It is prone to illusions, delusions, and deceptions, the greatest of which is Self deception. As relationships rarely end at the emotional level, ties are brought forward from many lives. (this part I resonate with so deeply as I am with a man from many many lifetimes)
    Another Pisces Moon ideal is that of Self-Sacrifice and Self-Immolation. Pisces immerses itself in pain and suffering. The urge is to take on suffering for others, the reality is to become a victim.

    VICTIM-MARTYR-SAVIOR
    Archetypes of savio, victim, martyr, rescuer, & persecuter are deeply etched within the psyche. So known and familiar are they that the soul feels completely comfortable falling back into these roles. (also resonated with this deeply) Lacking boundaries, the soul feel the pain of other acutely. Rather than having empathy, the Pisces Moon falls into sympathetic wallowing pity.

    EMOTIONAL NEEDS
    There are overwhelming emotional needs. Pisces flows this way and that, helplessly reacting to each and every emotional stimulus. This souls sees itself reflected through other people. It has great difficulty in being separate. Its urge is to merge with another. It lives through emotion and symbiosis. Emotional demands on other people are high, and the soul resorts to emotional blackmail to keep a relationship-without which it fears it will die. Separation is an ENORMOUS trauma for this Moon. The soul feel as if part of itself has been torn away. The need is to remain in the relationship no matter how bad. A pisces Moon rarely lets go of the past, especially it's partners.
    A great part of this soul's neediness is expressed through the victim-martyr-savior syndrome. Wanting to save someone is an emoitonal desire. Becoming pulled into victimhood or martydom can be such an ingrained emotional pattern that the souls recieved emotional satisfaction only when immersed in these roles. It confuses pity with love, sympathy with relationship. The souls needs to be needed. If the needs are not met then the soul seeks escape or solace in a bottle-alcohol-pills, etc. - or in a beautiful fantasy.

    The dominant emotion is guilt, both personal and existential. This soul wants to atone, when it should be seeking at-one-ment with the Divine."


    That's the basics and at my core.. This is me. I figured all this out without the book fortunately.. but when I read this a few days ago I broke down in tears. I do not need the things that it mentions anymore because the last two years have been intense growth years for me however I hurt so deeply and in so many ways because of the tendencies mentioned. Especially the guilt part. I'm so prone to feeling it and inflicting it of myself more than anyone or anything. I used to inflict it upon others until I realized what I was doing.

    Anywhoo, I think this is quite enough to keep you interested for now, let me know if you resonate with any of it : )

    Katrina






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      Wed, August 15, 2007 - 1:56 PM
      Hmm...I always thought my guilt complex was due to being brought up and surrounded by Catholics! Interesting.
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        Wed, August 15, 2007 - 2:34 PM
        lol!! I too was brought up by Catholics but I fear the roots of our guilt prone hearts grow deeper than any religious system : ) When you were a child, would you have done anything for anybody, while still having a solid head on your shoulders? So it wasn't as if someone could have gotten you to do something that wasn't going to help them.. but if you knew someone was in need did you have this deep (and probably still do have it) alarm that would go off and set you into the motion of helping or trying to help. sometimes even desperately?
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          Wed, August 15, 2007 - 5:09 PM
          Hmmm...this is a lot more interesting than the pisces moon tribe which I left months back bc it was so stilted.
          I am a scorpio w/a pisces moon, libra rising and mars in virgo, I mention those planets bc I feel they influence me the most. When I am feeling good, I feel strong and confident (hell who doesn't) I feel clear and intense - raring to go.
          Lately, I haven't felt that at all - I feel my pisces moon A LOT - i often feel lost.
          I felt growing up (notice the operative word is feel and it's almost always introduced with "I" since my sun is in my first house)
          anyway, I often felt that I wanted to help/fix people but I couldn't - I felt my mother's unahppiness a lot.
          Boundaries - yeah, it's hard having them when you have a pisces moon - you feel so much and often it's you taking on other's feelings and losing your own.
          I feel it's both a curse and a blessing bc my capacity to forgive is great - unlike most scorpio's I don't hold grudges - but rather I hold "hurts" or I hold "guilt" inside - which I am working on getting out.
          If i had been born just a wee bit later I could have had a darn Aries moon - than all my problems would be solved ha ha.
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            Fri, August 17, 2007 - 3:19 PM
            well I'm a Leo/Virgo Cusp with an Aqua Moon....................so even though it's not a pisces moon............the aqua moon can have a cold exterior but have very strong feelings underneath as in my case.............it just takes time to access................but I do think and feel alot, very strongly and passionately but i don't always express it.........which can be rough cause I feel like i project one thing but really mean another........which can make life complex
            Being a Leo/Virgo cusp..........I'm not as serious as your standard Virgo...even though I'm very much a virgo( 4 planet stellium).............but I do go from introverted to extroverted giving my comfort level with people.............I do have determination..............once I focus my energy .....this true and i often try to do this in my life


            growing up............I really took care of myself...........I learned to be self sufficient and be strong...........so I never really caused any problems to my mom
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              Fri, August 17, 2007 - 4:23 PM
              "Self sufficient and strong" are some of my best characteristics too! Throw diligent in there and it kind of sums me up. I'm definitely more serious than necessary, but I'm working on that and trying to re-visit my more playful (leo) side.

              Blue--when's your birthday? I know what you mean about being extroverted and introverted...it's a strange dualism, which I think has often drawn me to Gemini's.
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                Fri, August 17, 2007 - 6:04 PM
                My b-day is Aug 24...........I'm 1 degree Virgo and I do feel the leo traits........I'm very loyal, noble, social ( at least when I want to be), of an open nature, I like people , determined.........I consider my self a srong person..........opps is that my self-centeredness coming out lol
                my mercury is literally 00 degrees in Virgo so my way of expressing myself is def a Leo/Virgo cusp.............I really don't tend to criticize at all ......very rare.......I do also show my Virgo traits..........meticulous, I like to help others, common sense, loveable nature

                so far a Virgo/Libra Cusp, Taurus, an Aqua have caught my attention which I might add is very hard to get? Don't know if this is a Leo/Virgo Cusp trait though
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                  Sat, August 18, 2007 - 1:50 AM
                  I resonate BEST with Taurus's. My ex husband was an Aries. Think he and I would have gotten along well if he hadn't had some emotional issues. but maybe the demise was related to differences in signs?... I also enjoy Libra's.
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                    Tue, August 21, 2007 - 3:25 PM
                    Taurus people are "big" time in my life...mother, grandmother, daughter, aunts...they are everywhere for me and i love them!! they have all been some of the best relationships/friendships for me...my mom is my rock...only dated one taurus in my life and it didn't work out...although it was a highly romantic connection...just fizzled....
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    Sun, August 19, 2007 - 9:45 PM
    Oh wow!

    I haven't been on this site in months but this topic is so timely for me.

    I work with a guy who has this placement. He is such an interesting person. He is very much himself at all times with is unusual in the corporate world and makes everyone comfortable enough to take off their work mask, too...and it is hard to get me a Capricorn with Virgo Asc to do)

    He's also an interesting mix of masuline and feminine. He was an intimidating looking guy who sobs at touching movies, truely loves women and quite arty - all this adds to the chick magnet factor.

    I just find dude fasinating and wonder what mood he'll be reflexing one day to the next.

    Here's the kicker: We are both Pisces Moon with Mars in Leo..

    If we were not both in relationships I'd probably be all over him, but thank god the situation has allowed me to observe the fact that the attraction woud be one-sided.

    Yep, I can say that the description of Pisces Moon describes me to a T....my work-buddy, too.

    I think a difficult childhood is the norm for Pisces Moons tho and the Leo Sun placement helps with the unstoppability.


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    Tue, August 21, 2007 - 11:46 AM
    i am a leo/virgo cusp (born 22nd) with pisces rising and moon in taurus...so i can relate to this post...i definitely feel that i am complicated, confused at times and often misunderstood...i alter between being this vibrant outgoing person to being too responsible at times and a stick in the mud to wanting to escape from it all and swim in my own fantasy worlds...yep, this combination has its challenges. the older i get the more closer i seem to be moving toward my life's purpose and things are becoing easier and more clear but its taken awhile to get here...
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      Tue, August 21, 2007 - 1:23 PM
      Leopiri,

      TOTALLY!!!! I to have that childish quality and then the 'adult' in me that says it's time to be responsible but then I take that responsibility too far and end up throwing in the towel and being depressed that I can't give in to the 'fun' aspect of my Leo nor keep up with the 'adult' aspect of my Virgo.

      I flip between these two polarities, the older I get the more grounded I am becoming and I'm ending up using some of the lighthearted Leo characteristics when I'm working with others to get a job done. So I'm trying to bring the two closer together and fit them more subtly in my life where they can be of great help! OHHHH, the balancing it requires and I just don't feel like a naturally balanced person, I've really really had to struggle for some of that stuff.

      K
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        Tue, August 21, 2007 - 3:22 PM
        wow, so glad to find someone who can relate to this dichotomy i have been struggling with all my life (mid thirties now)!!! its been quite the struggle for me...i feel like this very responsible adult who does what she's supposed to do and then there is this wild child bursting to come out and upset what i've worked so hard for...sometimes i am astonished at what comes out of my mouth...that leo arrogance and proudness, course i totally love my leo qualities but sometimes they get me in troubles with my more grounded friends...i have one cap friend who constantly accuses me of being full of myself. and when i tell them that i am really just insecure, they chuckle and find that too funny...as if i could possibly be insecure...well, with the virgo in me and that pisces rising, insecurity is definitely there...hey, i'm just a "tri-chotomy"...lol

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