I'm not sure, but now that I know we have a moderator that is not gone indefinitely or dead as I assumed I will make sure to alert her or a new one, if one is picked, of any problems I may have and make sure those that I know who are concerned about a matter do as well. I still hold to my opinion of what type of governing I appreciate the most.

But would it be interesting enough to bother?

I think not...

But who's the troll in this scenario? Daniel?

Speaking about this Astrology tribe only.

Well, on one occasion once before I did contact the moderator when I had concerns about the way things were going once.

I can think of quite a few times when things got out of hand. Also, one or two people in particular telling me that htey were not coming back to this tribe.

It is not my intention to brand anyone 'troll' either on their forehead for ever more, but I felt that Daniel had crossed a line with his rudeness with me. Probably I would not have reacted as strongly as I had if there had not been other things going on in my life elsewhere and Ro makes a good point there, about not knowing what is happening with people outside cyberspace. I think there is a little too much too talk peopleon the receiving end toughening up and 'growing up' and not enough about asking people who clearly seem to enjoy baiting others being asked to take their issues elsewhere.

In other places and at other times, I have seen totally different sides to Daniel, I even once saw him dealing with another pretty trollish person here with the 'grown-upness' that some people seem to want here. I have also seen and heard enough on tribes like Ro to know that he can be very good indeed at making trouble - as he did with one very vulnerable person on this tribe in particular, who has now left for a tribe which definitely does have the mummy-daddy type moderator she obviously needed, in her fragile state of mind.

So it was not a question of starting coups or takeovers or anything. If Kelly is prepared to step in when things do get weird as Ro puts it, then I would be delighted for that. Have to admit though, I thought TOU's ultimatum was the best news I had heard in ages, and I think there are others who feel the same way here. Nothing to do with looking for mummies or daddies to hold my hand when someone is mean to me, but just to set boundaries so that whilst democratic and anarchic, it really is safe at bottom line too. If some of the sign-bashing threads did get the chop occasionally more often I would not grieve them, though.

Moew and UIP thanks for your vote, but as said, I was not planning coups or takeovers, I just wanted that jerk to stop at this point in time. I also did not want him to drive soemone away whose conversation I enjoyed, though if a moderatror had politely asked me and Spock to just make links to out long, boring discourses, I would have repsected that too.

I live in a different time zone to most folks here in a very differnet culture, which I also think might cause problems if I were to moderate.

I complained to TOU because my experience had already told me there was no point in going to the moderator.
Oh and BTW, I also noticed

The idea to ask this tribe for a new modersator was TOU's. I don't know anyone here who suggested it.

>>Steve, honestly, I wonder how much astrology informs people's perceptions and intentions here...<<

Quite a bit, I'd imagine, wouldn't you?

ANYWAY, I suppose that tribe does want a more active moderator, and as Ro pointed out, this is a LARGE tribe. Frankly, I'd have to suspect the motives of anyone who'd want to take the job on without getting paid.

I vote for Ergane. Seriously . . . there are dozens of us who I'd trust to handle the job impartially, etc. But it's a BIG tribe. Can we really expect anyone to be a hands on moderator, 24/7/365? I'll bet that tribe won't shut us down if we do nothing at all :-)

It's not an insult. Also, it's been clear to a lot of people. I don't find it a derogatory statement just fact, a mental patient is still a human being and he has been quite nice at times. Other's may want to know so that they understand that he isn't in fact a mean person on purpose.

I'm sorry you are offended. But it's something he has made clear to others time and time again.

no Sherpa, no you don't..

www.youtube.com/watch

Leda,

ummm, if memory serves...

Everyone here has agreed they do not like heavy moderation so why is there a problem?
Why are we assuming things to the point of being hastile to each other ?
We all want the same thing -and a few would like to have a moderator to write to and get a response from so what is the big deal ?
Both desires does not cancel out each other out- now does it?
This is all fear based and full of avoidence, it is time we come together and handle it and stop reading so much into the situation.

Leda has voiced my sentiments exactly

but I don't think that members of a tribe should be allowed to kick out a mod who formed it in the first place.......regardless of what she does or doesn't do.

NOBODY tried to kick her out.

How right you are, Sadasiva...

a moving picture is worth a thousand words but a song, a song can incite a revolution

www.sign69.com/medialounge/space141.html

ha

Understood Ro, which is why we all have to be diligent and thoughtful, and, of course, self-aware.
TOU doesn't understand this tribe, period, they're just policing; the squeaky wheel gets the grease
and if we squeak, well, they'll do their 'job.' the site you posted earlier as an example of TOU policing
had '0' replies to multiple postings.
What we have here is spectacular, and I would hate to see it change.