Tribe.net. Local Connections GlowStick http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#decc279f-dfa9-43e6-b00d-9556172acdee 2008-08-29T19:56:27Z 2008-08-29T19:56:27Z

I don't have any advice for a Saturn Return survival, since mine doesn't happen until the end of 2014, but I do have to say that Saturn will be retrograding over my 1st- oh joy.

GlowStick 2008-08-29T19:56:27Z Lord of the Zodiac http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#af431145-fbb3-47b4-a146-08d2058e7c1f 2008-08-29T16:56:19Z 2008-08-29T16:56:19Z

Finally we have Phoebe rising with Logos in Leo after 28 years! The portents are goos as Saturn is clutched between the proverbial hind paws of the sphinx. Phoebe leads the conjunction with neocon Logos towards good results, Gaussian omens culminating at winter solstice 2008.

Lord of the Zodiac 2008-08-29T16:56:19Z Lord of the Zodiac http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#dc8ec594-4441-4778-a3d2-2dcd3b144f55 2008-08-28T07:05:49Z 2008-08-28T07:05:49Z

(C) 2008 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://lulu.com/astrology This is the best transit of all. It is especially rewarding in people who stored personal power or kundalini. Since Saturn hovers over Hydra, this is considered a remarkable time as it makes zodiacal aspects with the multitude of objects of interest in the area. There are 4 zodiacal constellations below Leo and on Hydra's back and a host of dwarf planets and centaurs sits there. This is a lucky time for Saturnine people, to put it mildly, children of the sphinx. There is yet another bonus as Saturn approaches the legs of the sphinx, the precise place where it can ascend at east! Thus we shall soon have Saturn rising at due east, something happening only once in 28 years. Klaudio Zic, Academic Zodiac

Lord of the Zodiac 2008-08-28T07:05:49Z Comtesse Francine Lucette http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#75bc52ff-922f-462f-a5b6-5614319de3fb 2008-08-28T06:46:45Z 2008-08-28T06:46:45Z

There are two cases 1/ Sun over Saturn, which is money, real estate and God;s blessing, in short, and 2/ Sun below Saturn, which is love

Comtesse Francine Lucette 2008-08-28T06:46:45Z Eliza http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#8760f142-ae96-4f7f-8877-b4d7e01734a1 2008-08-28T04:55:22Z 2008-08-28T04:55:22Z

Aloha Rachel and all - The three passes of a transiting planet over a natal position seems to be a normal pattern. Occasionally, there is a rare fly by of a transit (one pass) and the other rare one is four passes, with the 4th being the planet going stationary direct *on* the natal planet's position. Having experienced Pluto that last way, whew. That was an amazingly freeing time. When I share transit information with clients, I ask them to pay attention to the clues which come their way on the first pass - watch for themes during their days leading up to the exact moment of the first pass' timing. During the time between that first pass and the retrograde one, it is best to get clear on the issues revealed through the themes and struggles of the time. Use the retrograde pass as a point of clarity for those issues on the personal experience of Saturn's lessons. Between the time of the retrograde pass and the final, third pass, use that period of time to get prepared to anchor in the changes asked by the transit. Saturn is about the foundations of our lives - what our family and society teaches us that we incorporate as our basic truths. It can be about what we fear through lack of support and finding those things we need to survive and thrive are missing. Perhaps you have reviewed the transits of your childhood - first square to itself, opposition and the square before this time of return. Those periods may shed light on the current health dilemma. Yes, it does have an influence and impact on the bones and connective tissues of the body. So I would suggest you make sure you are attending to your health in a balanced way during the time of classes, study and work. No doubt you know what triggers difficulties in your body, so be sure to maintain the best diet, exercise and health care during this time. Saturn has influence on timing and bringing things into perfection. There is the blessing that you are currently in your graduate studies, as Saturn in Virgo will allow you to be very precise with your research and writing work. They will anchor in as part of your foundation for the next 28-30 years. Harmony with life and attentive self-care can be some of the best intentions for you during 2009, which will be a fabulous thing for the next Saturn cycle of your life.

Eliza 2008-08-28T04:55:22Z rose http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#af015ce1-3626-41ea-88f2-d794efa44c2b 2008-08-28T00:03:09Z 2008-08-28T00:03:09Z

for me it's going to go retrograde ! degree before it actually crosses over, I think it's going to be kind of like gettin' it on with a dude who hasn't gotten any for a while. Being left in "a state" And then waiting almost a year to finally complete the process. Or not, maybe it'll be like almost a different kind of explosion and then everything calms down for a while till it can actually go through and over 7/8 months later. Evertone's process is a little different so it's hard to tell....oh mine will be in the 7th too, so we'll see how that goes. The most fruitful processes take a while it seems.

rose 2008-08-28T00:03:09Z derrick http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#7048f582-8fb2-4658-8e72-580498375ac0 2008-08-27T21:09:17Z 2008-08-27T21:09:17Z

Teresa, We have Saturn at the same placement. How did it feel for the 1st time for you? It was almost as if I got used to the SR and then BOOM Saturn went direct and it got so much worse (which is to say, better for me in the long run, worse at the time). I was told the third time is harsher because Saturn doesn't take too kind to stubborn folk who don't listen. I'm a bit glad we get Saturn 3xs in this SR though because, I don't know about you, but personally I am one stubborn Taurus. Did you notice how hard it's gotten this month, too? Especially with Mars, Merc, Venus and an eclipse all stopping by to say hi to Saturn? I was told it might potentially get worse (which, again, is actually good) when Saturn aspects Uranus soon.

derrick 2008-08-27T21:09:17Z KindaLik'a http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#259537e8-3c07-49a0-822f-2d22ca3b801c 2008-08-27T16:34:53Z 2008-08-27T16:34:53Z

Steve Great way to look at it! I'm not scared of my Saturn Rx. I say bring it on! Serious life changes can upsetting/depressinig while you're going through them, but I've always found that they turn out to be the best things for me. ... regardless of what I thought I wanted. My saturn is in Scorpio. There's only 1 thing that I fear about it and it relates to 1 person I'm very close to in my life. I never even mention or think about it for too long 'cause I'm scared it might happen.... ... but other than that I'm more than happy to do do a little "spring cleaning".

KindaLik'a 2008-08-27T16:34:53Z stevo diVino http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#4aa9a810-bae0-422e-a51e-33ab470f5e01 2008-08-27T11:58:49Z 2008-08-27T11:58:49Z

retrograde (3x) transits are the best :) because they give us opportunities to see the issue (1x) review the issue (2x) and address the issue (3x) the 3rd time is a charm, however, if you don't "get it" by then, it will probably get you

stevo diVino 2008-08-27T11:58:49Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#fd15bf3a-3d40-4629-a86a-c8d7470289e0 2008-08-27T05:22:23Z 2008-08-27T05:22:23Z

mine wasn't a problem other than I hemoraged a lot of blood

$item.owner.firstName 2008-08-27T05:22:23Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#15d71493-cf84-4442-ada4-81e3f8753700 2008-08-27T05:12:42Z 2008-08-27T05:12:42Z

The third (final time) is supposedly the worst. I am going through mine now too. Mine's in the 3rd and square my Moon in the 5th. Someone please peel me off of my couch.

$item.owner.firstName 2008-08-27T05:12:42Z Rachael http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/76c931eb-3079-44e6-8680-f5a1111a71a2#8e0e3a42-de42-48ab-8119-7c1d85be8e7b 2008-08-27T02:15:41Z 2008-08-27T02:15:41Z

Hello everyone, I am about to experience my Saturn Return - however, Saturn will retrograde over it's natal position and then return again when it goes back into direct motion. Has anyone experienced this sort of Saturn return, where you sort of experience the return three times due to retrograde motion of Saturn? I have natal Saturn at 20 degrees Virgo, in the 6th house (I'm a Gemini with Aries Rising and a Sag Moon.) Saturn Squares my moon in the 9th house. I'm currently in graduate school and I have another year or so to go. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and am afraid that my Saturn return (6th house) is going to cause health complications that affect my schooling. Does anyone have any advice for the Saturn Return survival?

Rachael 2008-08-27T02:15:41Z