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Since there is some discussion going on about moons I thought I would add another discussion to it. When reading about astrology you always read about the polar opposite effect and how you will attract the opposite of your sign. I have a pisces moon and it just dawned on me that my husband has a virgo moon.
I have always known since day one that my husband and I were opposites and this was before all the astrology research and come to find out we definitely are in life and in the astrology world. I keep reading that a lot of divorces end because what first attracted you in the first place is what tears you apart...so I sometimes wonder how a pisces planet - in my case my moon, would relate to a virgo moon? His virgo moon drives me crazy I am always thinking if only it were in a different sign!
Thoughts anyone?
I have always known since day one that my husband and I were opposites and this was before all the astrology research and come to find out we definitely are in life and in the astrology world. I keep reading that a lot of divorces end because what first attracted you in the first place is what tears you apart...so I sometimes wonder how a pisces planet - in my case my moon, would relate to a virgo moon? His virgo moon drives me crazy I am always thinking if only it were in a different sign!
Thoughts anyone?
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Re: Pisces-Virgo Moons
Wed, September 23, 2009 - 4:09 PMSarah - I think it depends on the individual also. I tend to be attracted to men who are not like me, and so we also have more squares and oppositions in synastry/composite. Uranus in aspect to Venus, sitting in the 5th or 7th might make a person be attracted to individuals who are different for them, for example. Other people might not be able to handle differences, while some crave it and would be bored otherwise. -
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Wed, September 23, 2009 - 9:08 PMPisces and Virgo are indeed opposites.... but Opposites attract! There are also similiaries between opposites... A Virgo moon person could definitely drive A Pisces moon person a little crazy at times but I bet that same craziness somehow also attracts you in ways... Pisces and Virgo, like all opposite signs are similar very deep down but it sometimes doesn't appear that way... I have a Virgo moon and my close friend has a Pisces Moon... we both share passions on a lot of the same issues... It's pretty deep. The Pisces Moon really helps to humble and let go of my controlling and over analytical "Virgo times" -
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Thu, September 24, 2009 - 6:21 AMSame goes for me.
My bestest best friend is a Gemini Sun (im an Aqu Sun) and a Taurus Moon (im a Scorp Moon). a tarus moon DEFINITELY lets me remember that its ok to just chill out and relax about things, and that its also pretty healthy to view at life through simple terms.
in my experience, only taurus moons have been PATIENT ENOUGH to wait through all my scorpionic rampages of self-destruction. and thats really neat!!! this is like permantently unweathering.
taurus moons are also so sexy and slow it just wants to make me hump them all over... but thats a different subject.
opposite moons definitely do attract; there may be some specific things that may drive you crazy, but, in general, its a really cool thing, especially when you two click
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Re: Pisces-Virgo Moons
Wed, November 4, 2009 - 3:16 PMVirgoans are no-nonsense folks which often cannot stand cunfusion, poetry, half-baked thoughts & misty-eye emotion. And they are supposed to be really comfortable with Pisces? Their cores are very similar? Fish-fingers sure can be many positive things: light entertainers & "deep", radical youth wearing hippie-clothes & reciting gibbe...poetry, but they have very few things in common with cynical & determined Virgo. Think of a slushy orange meeting a straight-razor, that´s how I vision a "harmonious" Pisces/Virgo sign rendezvous. -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 3:35 PM"Fish-fingers sure can be many positive things: light entertainers & "deep", radical youth wearing hippie-clothes & reciting gibbe...poetry, but they have very few things in common with cynical & determined Virgo."
I wonder how many strong Pisces you have known, because this is nothing like the Pisces I have known, and I have had some close relationships with Pisces. In their youth, they are especially more likely to delve into poetry and art, etc. But that is not all that they are. One of my sisters is a Pisces, and she has Capricorn rising and Moon-Saturn square. Nothing says "cynical" as much as those two influences. She is also not very emotional to others - quite the opposite. That doesn't mean she isn't very emotional, perceptive, intuitive, etc. But she doesn't go around crying and whining to her close aquaintances. That's the last thing that she'd do.
Yes, Virgo can be determined. But at what? Not always their work! Some may be determined at being serial killers, sexual preditors, or stalkers. My sisters ex was a convicted rapist, and a very good Virgo stalker. -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 4:28 PM"Virgo can be determined. But at what? Not always their work! Some may be determined at being serial killers, sexual preditors, or stalkers. My sisters ex was a convicted rapist, and a very good Virgo stalker. "
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 4:57 PMI was just using a drastic example... I just don't like the high-and-mighty attitude that person has. All of the signs can have their issues. Virgo especially can fixate on things and have serious psychological issues and trouble relating to people, and even seeing people as human beings. How is that so much better than a flighty, emotional Pisces? -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 5:23 PMTeresa
Well, no sign is ever said to be better than the other (in modern astrology) and naturally all signs possess extremes. -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 6:41 PMJoakim is just a rascal. Likes to stir the pot. I would not advise taking him seriously.
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 7:50 PMJoakim
I don't think that's true at all actually. For me with my virgo asc I've for instance never been attracted to a virgo man in my life. It's even to the unexplanable extent that men (or even people in general - with some exceptions as always) that have the sun conjunct my asc I especially tend to dislike.
And I adore pisces. Men that I'm attracted to almost always are either pisces suns or have pisces positions. I'm a real sucker for the pisces influenced man. I also love pisces as a sign and what it symbolizes and I like people that have pisces-like traits in general.
Basically I think your theory is as off as it can be. Virgo is in need of pisces influence to relax, and they aren't all that different actually. They're both feminine, mutable and strives to achieve their ideal.
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 8:09 PM"Basically I think your theory is as off as it can be. Virgo is in need of pisces influence to relax, and they aren't all that different actually. They're both feminine, mutable and strives to achieve their ideal. I say they need each other!"
Hear, hear. Virgo can bring Pisces back down to earth (for a little while at least), and Pisces can bring out things Virgo keeps repressed.
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Re: Pisces-Virgo Moons
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:54 AMPetite green men perhaps should use deodorant, & not only in armpit cavity. Moon & rising influence are too marginal when it comes to deciding whether signs are compatible or not. Virgoan temperament is not suited for fish-connections. Virgos see pisceans as perhaps their counselling-clients, folks lost at sea needing some advice. Maidens are no shoulder to cry on, they were designed to be good "consiglieres", not baby-sitters. Virgos scorpian wrath can be woken by bawlers, folks given precious time who still just want to perform naff songs in pubs can be labeled "cretins to be avoided at any cost" by icy Persephone. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:03 AMVirgo and Pisces are two sides of the same axis. This axis kind reminds me of a lens. The lens is focused on the horizon with pisces, and anything up close and 'real' appears a little blurry. They see the big picture, or rather they feel it, but when it comes to details, everything is hazy and out of focus. Virgo is the microscope of closely focused lens. It sees things neatly, clearly and with a razor focus, and is great at the little things and the details. But can kind of lack the bigger picture. Virgo is a real case for not seeing the forest for the trees, pisces is the opposite, it can see the forest, but can't make out each tree.
Virgo and Pisces are opposing each other on their axis and every sign contains the shadow of their opposite sign. Inside each Virgo is a (normally highly repressed) little poet and mystic that yearns to break free and ignore the details, that years to melt and dissolve itself with some cosmic creator. Pisces has a (also norally repressed) little spell check in their heads that cause them to suddenly 'notice' a little detail and then fixate or obsess on it. Of course we can all fall into our shadows and you will often see the odd Pisces with bowel problems, as the bowel is a Virgo body part and you may see the odd Virgo limping around with a broken toe or a hurt foot.
Pisces and Virgo shouldn't be seen as 'different' signs, rather they are different aspects of the same energy. They both have a mystical side to them. Virgo is more 'magical' or ritualistic with Mercury as its ruling planet, whereas Pisces is more expansive and 'in the clouds' than Virgo.
Of course we often loathe our opposite sign, but at the same time we often love them too! -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:42 AMAll that seems rather "esoteric" & other opposites also give the impression of being just opposing signs (take Leo/Aquarius for example) -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:19 AMWell I guess it IS quite esoteric. But makes a lot of sense if you think of it enough. We're all striving more toward 'completion' or 'wholeness' and of course we'll be attracted to the kinds of people that emphasise those qualities that we 'lack' in ourselves. It's always a love-hate thing. I imagine virgo hates the chaos of Pisces and when Pisces is looking to the sunset with a tearfilled eye and whistfully laying down its beautiful poetry, seeking to find just the right word to describe the feeling, the virgo partner is furiously trying to shift his ass so that she can do the housework and raging on the inside that her pisces man is just sitting dreaming. The virgo partner is probably the breadwinner in those kinds of households. At the same time sometimes Pisces can teach Virgo to just relax and savour the moment. To stop worrying.
All the signs are on an axis which I think is the key to understanding them. You often hear of the Pisces who wakes up at 3am needing to use the toilet and staying awake for the rest of the night worrying about this that or the other. And both signs are prone to psychosomatic problems. Virgo is order, Pisces is chaos. Virgo is critical, Pisces is all-embracing. Sometimes too much crticism is a bad thing, sometimes its the most necessary thing to do. Each side is kind of drawn to the other cos it can learn just a little something from it.
Even Leo and Aquarius which you mention. Bring your fave aquarian friend out and compliment their clothes and their hair. Do it subtley and get them a bit tipsy. Now pass by a Karaoke bar, they wont' be able to help themselves from launching in and grabbing that microphone. The aquarian shadow is Leo, and inside every aquarian is the thirst for recognition and for an adoring spotlight. Same for Leo. Get them a little tipsy and out will spill all their worries about other people. Both are similar in that they represent differing kinds of authority. Leo is the monarch, aquarius the republic. But even the republic votes upon a leader. We might say that the voting public are the Aquarius and the person who is elected, the president, is the Leo. Leo, behind all the glamour, blinding smiles and fantastic hair secretly know that their only power is in the people liking them, and the people are aquarius, behind it all leo knows it needs to do what is the most fair. The very best Kings would tell you that it is their 'subjects' who hold the real power. Of course this is all 'repressed' and not very conscious but it is there all the same, but dont' necessarily hope to find your best Leo friend taking up aquarian ideals, at least not when sober.
The opposite signs all deal with the same 'theme' but on differing sides of the spectrum. We're out our best when we 'borrow' a pinch from the opposing sign and at our worst when we fall headlong into it. Take the Virgoan Amy Winehouse. Amazing singer, fantastic talent, but drink, drugs and her chaotic emotions have sabotaged her. Its a lesson for all of us. Take a pinch of your opposite sign but don't wallow there! -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:40 PMMany Virgos feel this, probably Scorpio lurking in the background here, smoldering resentment when they pick up "weak-will" vibes, there is a common piscean type of character who talks alot & smiles in the right places, but one senses with the old sniffer that there is absolutely nothing behind that facade; if one suddenly snapped and roared "-DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU´RE TALKING ABOUT, HAVE YOU ANY IDEA ABOUT WHAT YOU´RE REALLY SAYING??" the timid, pathetic whimper-answer would just be "-....no!" Another rather unsavory wedding-gift from old Scorpy to his virgoan horror-bride: predatory reflexes (aggression) when spotting weakness.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:12 PMpaul
"Virgo and Pisces are two sides of the same axis. This axis kind reminds me of a lens. The lens is focused on the horizon with pisces, and anything up close and 'real' appears a little blurry. They see the big picture, or rather they feel it, but when it comes to details, everything is hazy and out of focus. Virgo is the microscope of closely focused lens. It sees things neatly, clearly and with a razor focus, and is great at the little things and the details. But can kind of lack the bigger picture. Virgo is a real case for not seeing the forest for the trees, pisces is the opposite, it can see the forest, but can't make out each tree.
Virgo and Pisces are opposing each other on their axis and every sign contains the shadow of their opposite sign. Inside each Virgo is a (normally highly repressed) little poet and mystic that yearns to break free and ignore the details, that years to melt and dissolve itself with some cosmic creator. Pisces has a (also norally repressed) little spell check in their heads that cause them to suddenly 'notice' a little detail and then fixate or obsess on it. Of course we can all fall into our shadows and you will often see the odd Pisces with bowel problems, as the bowel is a Virgo body part and you may see the odd Virgo limping around with a broken toe or a hurt foot.
Pisces and Virgo shouldn't be seen as 'different' signs, rather they are different aspects of the same energy. They both have a mystical side to them. Virgo is more 'magical' or ritualistic with Mercury as its ruling planet, whereas Pisces is more expansive and 'in the clouds' than Virgo. "
Very, very well put and very good metaphors.
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Thu, September 24, 2009 - 10:51 AMI am I am not knowledgable enough in the synastry category but I also forgot to put that both our moons are in the 8th house...which in turn can be good at times because we understand where the other person is coming from but it can also have a negative effect that when something heavy is happening we drown eachother because we both "feel" circumstances in the same way.
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 7:53 PMAs for opposing moons - that can probably be a hassle unless there are some serious trines or venus conjunctions in the rest of the scopes. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:57 AMi think the good thing about opposites moon, is that the transits to your moon mean transits to his moon also...
so a lot of the times although you're not in the same mood, you have the same things going on and feel similar
i have mercury in virgo (asc ruler) opposite my girlfriend's pisces moon (asc ruler)
virgo likes to analize and research , and pisces is more into subconcious like dreams and impressions
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she likes to tell me her dreams, and that i analyze them and try to make some sense of it..
she likes to tell me her ideas, and i tell them if their attainable and how to realize it
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:05 AM"she likes to tell me her dreams, and that i analyze them and try to make some sense of it..
she likes to tell me her ideas, and i tell them if their attainable and how to realize it "
And what does she do for you? That seemed awful one sided, she needs help and you provide it. But what about what you've learned from teh pisces moon? You want to critque and she teaches you just relax and accept? Trust your gut perhaps?
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:05 PMThe opposing signs are like Paul said the same axis and therefore both the same modality and polarity, in other words they're to sides of the same coin and not so different. It's just like the ascendant/descendant axis in which the ascendant plays the role of what is obvious and on the surface, while the descendant is the underlying influence and out of focus but still very much there as an influence inside the individual.
To a certain extent this can be said about the signs of the planets as well. The opposing sign lies there on the other side and one either becomes intruiged by the otherside of ones own coin - or suspicious, depending on how you yourself in a way view your own abstract, shadow self, which is why some people come to fancy the opposite signs - wether it's the descednant sign or a planets opposing sign - or find them irritating(although this might be more of an asc/desc thing, however I think it probably to some extent relates to the opposite signs of the planets as well).
So the way that plays out (if one views the opposite sign as positive or negative) I think is dependent on the rest of the chart. If you for instance have other harmonious aspects to a sign that makes an opposition to something else, you might understand it better and 'like it', while if you have no or few other influences that is similar to this opposite sign, you might not understand it and get more prone to dislike it.
But I have to again stress that there might be a slight difference in how you view your descendant sign as oppose to (no pun intended) how you view the opposite signs to your planets since the descendant is a more harmonious opposition "by nature" and essentially your own attributes that you seek to reflect and be personified in a partner.
Therefore the planets opposition signs might be harder to come around.
