http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#60cd423a-0569-4017-9a0a-b032bbd96b93 the return of saturn or any planet occurs when it completes an orbit around the sun and returns to the degree/minute of the sign where it's placed in your natal chart. Saturn orbits take about 28-29 years. You can look it up in an astrological ephemeris or calendar like http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm --due to retrograde motion, it may actually cross your natal deg/min 3 times over a span of months. Just start looking at the year of your 29th b'day (or 58th, etc). Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:07:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#60cd423a-0569-4017-9a0a-b032bbd96b93 stevo diVino 2007-09-13T00:07:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#ff8dd63d-fb8a-4787-b61a-04ed7d361164 A little off topic, but how do you calculate a saturn return and what is it exactly? I saw some people talking about it in this post.... Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:01:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#ff8dd63d-fb8a-4787-b61a-04ed7d361164 Melissa 2007-09-12T22:01:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#3dd27b36-5edb-4288-bc6c-a788ea3cf77a magenta, your comment to me? (summer moon) aka FaF.... I did watch the eclipse...did not sense much then...I realized the error Thur morn 9/6. I am still working on the clerical aspects. My Venus at 7*22 Pisces...Conj Chiron 11*59, Opposed to Asc, Uranus, Pluto...Venus was semi sextile Mars on that date, 8/28. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:32:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#3dd27b36-5edb-4288-bc6c-a788ea3cf77a ~FaF~ 2007-09-12T15:32:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#8745b729-4bc9-4ae2-9a79-2fbae5ec449c very interesting...i wonder if your "revelation' came of the lunar eclipse in pisces on august 28? hmmm...glad it worked out in your favor! Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:51:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#8745b729-4bc9-4ae2-9a79-2fbae5ec449c magenta 2007-09-12T04:51:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#8cfb3363-3147-4476-a0d2-06791b12ebc2 saturn conjunctions can have a lot to do with commitment....which can feel good in a relationship! I think the most troubling saturn aspects are more the square and opposition from what I can tell. Sure maybe saturn conjunct isn't a barrel of monkeys! Or a jumpin' house party! But commitment is a key ingredient in a lasting and healthy relationship. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:52:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#8cfb3363-3147-4476-a0d2-06791b12ebc2 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-12T03:52:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#0aa24cf1-738d-45f2-af84-82a4d4fc2e49 Thank you, Willow. I've marked my calender. Would you have a link for me to look up the time/frame, and put it in the appointment book? Just joking. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:09:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#0aa24cf1-738d-45f2-af84-82a4d4fc2e49 Mae 2007-09-12T02:09:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#606a4441-1d6b-4ec7-aa33-cf4e6b63fc27 Excellent! Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:08:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#606a4441-1d6b-4ec7-aa33-cf4e6b63fc27 Mae 2007-09-12T02:08:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#22b79009-6d74-40a8-b8d2-24401b9c89dc Likely. If you do the work, Saturn will provide you the benefits of that hard work. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:36:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#22b79009-6d74-40a8-b8d2-24401b9c89dc $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-12T01:36:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#0dc7dd53-499f-4586-848f-b7a83698f5fa I've actually been having especially good experiences in my love life during this period, which is kind of ironic considering that transiting Venus is exactly conjunct my natal 7th house Saturn. Maybe the positive effect could also have to do with finally being past my 7th house Saturn Return (and all the difficult, isolating introspection that went along with it). Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:28:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#0dc7dd53-499f-4586-848f-b7a83698f5fa Nyx 2007-09-12T01:28:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#13947eab-637c-4652-868e-da3f32e8993d Oct. 2nd. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:17:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#13947eab-637c-4652-868e-da3f32e8993d $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-12T01:17:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#dd1d3206-af0f-4667-8bba-870561669483 venus will be visiting 26* Leo soon, for the 3rd time in recent months. 3rd time's a charm (?) Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:37:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#dd1d3206-af0f-4667-8bba-870561669483 stevo diVino 2007-09-12T00:37:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#53b90c0d-6c55-455d-96a9-a1662a781060 Thursday, I watched "Venus" DVD from 2006, with Peter O'Toole, Vanessa Redgrave, and Leslie (actor of 70 years experience) and new young actress playing "Venus". Hanif Kareshi screenwriter. It was fantastic, with quite a lot of Venus retrograde mixed in with several Saturine themes. I have quite a lot of activity in natal my Leo with Pluto and Jupiter in the eight house 26 degrees with Sag ascendant 26 degrees. Would anyone know when Venus will be visiting Leo, say 26 degrees? soon? Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:29:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#53b90c0d-6c55-455d-96a9-a1662a781060 Mae 2007-09-12T00:29:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#32511079-c0f0-4104-8f69-d5f12bf4a040 With venus direct hitting my ascendant, I was on a boat on the dock when a guy invited to his boat. The owner of the boat and this guy had an altercation that almost led to a fist fight. I am not dating nor want to date either of these guys so I thought it was funny. Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:19:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#32511079-c0f0-4104-8f69-d5f12bf4a040 Tara 2007-09-11T20:19:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#c761d547-518f-46ca-a2fd-46597518b1c6 Yes Marcia, This retrograde has really enlightened me as to much I am identified with Venus...( 7th house, Pisces; conj.Chiron)I have become moreaware of the energy it brings forth in me...and the effect that my love relationships have on me. : ) Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:05:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#c761d547-518f-46ca-a2fd-46597518b1c6 ~FaF~ 2007-09-11T18:05:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#ce932b95-057a-4e39-aae1-c43eee6732c8 thanks for posting this ~ it seems really interesting. Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:01:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#ce932b95-057a-4e39-aae1-c43eee6732c8 kat 2007-09-11T17:01:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6861e854-fab1-4e72-a329-4aa1b6244fd2 summer moon that sounds exactly like what i would imagine would happen during a venus retrograde! Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:58:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6861e854-fab1-4e72-a329-4aa1b6244fd2 kat 2007-09-11T16:58:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#cf78beff-b776-4a5c-a028-6ac38d6f09d3 Ugh. Me, too. It started for me when Saturn went into Virgo. Time to get serious about the health/diet, I guess. <sigh> No more chips and pop at midnight. Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:40:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#cf78beff-b776-4a5c-a028-6ac38d6f09d3 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-11T16:40:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#f0376c96-336a-4219-bade-5d832b7bc186 http://exotericastrology.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html Just thought I'd post this again at the bottom because it might be hard to find within one of the threads (in case anyone is interested). Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:58:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#f0376c96-336a-4219-bade-5d832b7bc186 UranusinPisces 2007-09-11T03:58:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#f2340bca-b4ba-4936-8f63-c1f3a8328522 http://exotericastrology.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:43:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#f2340bca-b4ba-4936-8f63-c1f3a8328522 UranusinPisces 2007-09-11T03:43:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#29d755de-c4d4-4313-baf6-148e14db8eef Yeah Venus conjunct Saturn nearly killed me (and my relationship). There was just so much stress and "issues" the universe obviously pushed for us to work on, but to me it seemed to be slamming us for no reason. Then Venus had to go retro at almost exactly opposite my natal venus, which made it LINGER on Saturn for ssssssooooooooooooooooo llllonnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggg. The whole conjunct Saturn, retro, then conjunct Saturn again thing has just been stress, Stress, STRESS. Add that with the eclipses in my (and at times my bf's as well) 1st and 7th house the last two years and a host of life changes....it's been pretty hard. We're a Capricorn sun (composite) and we have Venus in Cap as well so it just seemed unnecessary (JUST A BIT). Has been a little rough ( ok, I admit even the rough parts were fun and a just a lil more than a bit halarious looking back at it, albeit brutal and cruel), but now I understand why Saturn is exalted in the 7th house. Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:36:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#29d755de-c4d4-4313-baf6-148e14db8eef UranusinPisces 2007-09-11T03:36:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a29dcaea-f245-4ecf-9c04-a1563b32147c Have been dealing with tons of Self-love/self-worth issues...Actually moved out of 4yr relationship, although we are still working things out...have had some heart palpitations. I also have Saturn coming upon my 7th House and Saturn Return...does it ever end?? :) Thanks Willow for your explanation of the process of Venus...very cool! Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:29:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a29dcaea-f245-4ecf-9c04-a1563b32147c Seaoglass 2007-09-11T03:29:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#35c5bbec-00c3-46cb-aa13-e9029c3c1203 Just a thought, but doesn't Virgo rule lower intestines? I've had some hellacious GI problemks since Sun went into Virgo Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:21:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#35c5bbec-00c3-46cb-aa13-e9029c3c1203 Seaoglass 2007-09-11T03:21:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#736327e5-61cb-4a97-83cd-ebc2cc7b1b73 A couple nights after I came back from the Playa -where I had acquired much completion regarding my ex- I had a dream about her that seemed to bring more closure for me. In this dream-reality, a friend of mine had a relationship with my ex sometime before I did. The dream acquires a kind of clarity as I'm getting ready to go somewhere & I'm musing about this connection between the 3 of us. I'm thinking about how whimsical her relationships with each of us had seemed, how her new interest is just a rebound and how her heart seems to ridiculously go where the wind blows. I felt a sort of pity and exacerbation towards her. As if on cue with this internal review, my friend and my ex come out of the blue as if heading off to some private and intimate affair. I say to them "Oh, this is *perfect*!" (as this seems to fall right into what I was just thinking to myself before they appeared). Since she was always possessive and paranoid about my friendships with women, I say to her in a chastising manner that spoke into her hypocrisy, "Well what about (new guy)? What would *he* think (of these two going off together)? How would *he* feel about this?" Surprisingly, yet perhaps to prove to me that there was nothing to hide, my friend tells me to come along with them. However, my surprise didn't quell my outrage. After entering his car, I start sharing my thoughts candidly and my ex surprises me by getting out of shotgun and joining me in the back seat with this look in her eye that strangely mixes sympathy, sadness, hurt and anger. I stop for a moment to take in her gaze and suddenly feel a swell of compassion and love for her rise in my chest and throat. I put my arm around her and pulled her into an embrace. She then mounts me and starts dry-humping me and for a moment I give into it. But I sense the wrongness of it, stop her, tell her I don't want to get intimately involved with her and that she needs some serious professional help (conveying silently that she's out of control). As if to illustrate my point, I start reviewing to her the sequence of events that defined her relationship patterns -how she dealt with my friend in their earlier relationship, how she dealt with me and how her dynamics are now with her current interest. This is where the dream ends and I awake with a strange new peace in my heart. This dream felt like my intellect & heart coming into a concordance regarding my inner resolution of my relationship. I've come to a relatively peaceful place concerning my process and am no longer pensive about how long it will take or what shape it will require to do so. I feel okay just letting it unfold as it must, feeling whatever I feel without judging myself, and breathing easy for the first time in a long while. ...Before, during and since Burning Man I've had a few distressing encounters as I mentioned earlier, but I've been having far more pleasant though fleeting experiences that I have found rather perfect for where I am at. It's like the Universe keeps sending me this sweet cosmic nymphs to gently kiss me, play and dance a while as they pass by -reminding me that I'm perfectly desirable yet still where I need to be at as I evolve through this stage of my Journey. They remind me that my time for Deep and Lasting Love is coming :) Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:21:11 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#736327e5-61cb-4a97-83cd-ebc2cc7b1b73 "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-11T03:21:11Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e52b8039-ceea-441c-b7b3-39abad12d78c My ex husband and I have been trying to negotiate the terms of our divorce during this venus retrograde. I thought we had come to a fair agreement on 8/20. However, when the final papers arrived, my intuition was telling me *do not sign*. Not in a romantic sense, but in a sense of what is fair, and right for me; that I can walk away, and not be bitter. Last Thur, I woke up, and it dawned on me that a major financial factor was not taken into account, one that would be in my favor. Now, to return to the table...as he thought we were finished with it all.... Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:07:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e52b8039-ceea-441c-b7b3-39abad12d78c ~FaF~ 2007-09-10T16:07:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#30b97650-4048-4570-b048-86566c947469 I had an emotional break Thursday night, sobbed to myself at 3 a.m. Friday morning, felt like I was falling in love with my current love interest, but doubted my personal feelings of love for him as well as whether he reciprocated. Saturday night, Venus direct: We went to a party together, his work friends told me he was really into me, was wondering about when does "commitment" happen (we've been at this for over four months now) and was uneasy about (noncommittal) statements I had made about moving to New York City. In general, the vibe was sexy, loving, and expressive and I feel very confident now that his feelings are reciprocated and we can finally move forward with this relationship with some confidence. We were disgustingly heavy on the PDAs, which made me feel so very loved I had been thinking it was just a "summer love" thing, but I think it is much bigger than that. And I am very excited about it, as I think he is a fabulous, exciting, interesting, wonderful person. Ninth house rules!!! Now I'm just waiting for the right time for either of us to say the "L-word." I had a very bad headache Sunday morning, since that is the theme here. I also had two beers and a vodka cranberry the previous night, and was going through my monthly agony, so maybe that has more to do with it than Venus Direct. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:09:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#30b97650-4048-4570-b048-86566c947469 magenta 2007-09-10T15:09:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#7f807319-f7ae-45c1-9a99-eaaf8f32f77c A couple of months ago my relationship has been going down hill. It hit bottom the first weekend of Sept. I definately thought it was over. Then this week my friends begin to inform me of admirers and my Scorpio boyfriend rediscovers his love for me. Just in case this makes a difference -I have Venus in Scorpio). This weekend we felt the closest we have been in months, also I felt a great bond with my family. I'm pretty new to this and don't know how to read my chart. Can anyone shed insight? Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:54:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#7f807319-f7ae-45c1-9a99-eaaf8f32f77c Bebe 2007-09-10T14:54:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6719c386-e078-46ae-9cd2-f61abac3caf2 A friend of mine did my chart online years ago and I'm still very new to Astrology. ...Looking at my chart, it says: Sun - 2 - Aquarius Moon - 27 - Capricorn Mercury - 11 - Aquarius Venus - 4 - Aquarius Mars - 11 - Taurus Jupiter - 19 - Aquarius Saturn - 28 - Gemini Uranus - 27 - Libra Neptune - 9 - Sagittarius Pluto - 6 - Libra Chiron - 16 - Aries North Node - 26 - Sagittarius I hope that helps. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:42:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6719c386-e078-46ae-9cd2-f61abac3caf2 "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-10T09:42:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#fa0c2354-7e93-40cd-b290-8fd05aae468b Too much drama. My Aquarius Venus was born in Retro and I really had some strange experiences in relationships...probably more so than my thinking back in Merc Retro earlier this spring/summer. I think this Jupiter in Sagittarius is just catapulting me ahead like 50 years in life. I've never gone through so much self-relfection in my entire life and I usually did quite a bit...but I'm going over the top now. I'm doing so much research into everything I'm at a loss. I've definitely become a spiritual person and a huge reader of anything over the past year...especially since I graduated from college in May(I'm 25)...still not knowing where life is going. Think I have the answers but then again I have a crazy imagination. Definitely not building any bridges...not burning too many old ones either though..hmm..actually that's probably not the case. I always burn bridges. All these occult studies, numerology, tarot, metasymbology and whatnot keep telling me more or less I'm a God...and now I'm actually starting to believe it...but I don't...I think we're all God. Religion is playing a big aspect too, Gnosticism, Buddhism, Taoism mostly...and then even still some own theories I've had of my own for some time too...so yeah...I could go for some normalcy one of these days. I hate mundane jobs though...and the corporate system...so I guess I'm trying to write a book...I have way too many interests and points to go off of though over the past few months it's hard to keep focused. My main drift at the moment is the human soul and peace on earth...how to incorporate some of these other crazy things(videogames even) and not sound insane is kind of tough...but people think I'm insane either way...so... Yeah. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:40:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#fa0c2354-7e93-40cd-b290-8fd05aae468b John 2007-09-10T09:40:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#17f8b446-cb6f-40cf-b01d-290f480fac5a "Meanwhile I keep getting all these flaky women who act like they're really interested and then do a 180 all of a sudden without any apparent rhyme or reason. " what degree is your venus? are there other aspects to it that may be causing this? (uranus comes to mind) "...I've met some people who do especially well during retro periods while others get all f**cked up. Why is that? " sometimes people that have the natal planet retrograde in their chart feel the retrograde periods as more natural to their own state of being. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:34:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#17f8b446-cb6f-40cf-b01d-290f480fac5a kat 2007-09-10T05:34:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#95df5ff1-6ce9-4dea-baef-92b3dea021dc Thanks Willow :) It all makes sense, but maybe there are subtler shades of "finishing business" I'm not tuning into yet. Since she totally closed down communication between us I've had to go through the work of getting complete on my own and doing all the energetics of it regarding her at a distance through the Aether. I'm not really focusing on getting into a new relationship, rather I'm focusing on my interior, my work, and just being open to exploring whatever with whomever as seems appropriate, healthy, interesting, fun, etc. That being said, I'm definitely keeping my awareness open for my life-partner. In a way, I do feel the Universe watching my back so to speak to ensure everything else in my life is in good order while keeping un-harmonious relationships away until It brings me to Her. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#95df5ff1-6ce9-4dea-baef-92b3dea021dc "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-10T04:32:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#c191ad2b-4df8-4235-984e-c39648e268e8 Great words. Thanks so much Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:06:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#c191ad2b-4df8-4235-984e-c39648e268e8 Melissa 2007-09-10T04:06:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1d1062bd-3d38-4e02-9f2c-d6344cfcb24f Thanx, MorphinDrakoTheSmith...THAT was really nice. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:23:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1d1062bd-3d38-4e02-9f2c-d6344cfcb24f $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T03:23:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#87bb68f0-ef54-4ea0-b59f-5213b40cab54 Thanx Willow, that was really nice... Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:19:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#87bb68f0-ef54-4ea0-b59f-5213b40cab54 Dragon-of-Q 2007-09-10T03:19:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e580d06a-882e-4c69-b218-a624b8f5245f Also, the thing about Leo is that it relates to the fun, romantic kind of love - dating, candles, wine, going to the zoo together...you know, fun shit like that. Once Venus hits Virgo, it'll be down to bidness...related to the work, adjusting and refinement involved in really getting a relationship started, accepting the other's habits, work situation, cleanliness, etc. It moves beyond the fun, giggly stuff. Then Venus in Libra deals with the actual partnership...actual relationship, being together, committed, in the public eye sort of thing. Then Venus in Scorp...well...uhh...that's when the darker stuff starts to come out and we see if we can truly, deeply love the person, warts and all. If it's going to be a true merging of souls. Venus in Leo is pretty lighthearted for the most part...it gets deeper. And for any relationships not able to move to the deeper stage...that will likely be the end of it. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:03:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e580d06a-882e-4c69-b218-a624b8f5245f $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T03:03:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#56171d46-512f-473e-9096-30e58a1ebe63 got hit -quite aggressively - by a girlfriend.. went out on Friday night with a couple of old friends (and exes)..good and got drunk..spent the weekend recovering. but now saturn has kicked in! boy am i glad it did! Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:47:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#56171d46-512f-473e-9096-30e58a1ebe63 jacqueline 2007-09-10T02:47:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1b9bf086-d46c-41ba-83d8-38de46711ed5 I would say it's a rebound (for her), but Venus direct will tell the tale. Venus enters new territory Oct. 11, so wait and see. Women are more than likely picking up on the "unfinished business" vibe about you related to this woman...that's more than likely why they're initially into you, and then later (once they've picked it up) back away. It's not responsible to enter into a new relationship with unfinished ties to the last one, in my opinion. :) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:42:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1b9bf086-d46c-41ba-83d8-38de46711ed5 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T02:42:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#fb8cc256-eada-44c6-a131-785d021af00c Venus retro in Leo is about coming directly from the heart in our relations with other people...so sort of backtracking to make sure we're infusing our relationships with that sort of love...true, authentic, fun. Getting our loyalties straight...being loyal to our heart's desire rather than to the relationship itself. So this retro could have been about adjustments related to that for you...getting clear on what your heart is telling you, and being 100% authentic. Making sure you're being treated like the queen (Leo) that you are in your relationships (Venus). Also about values (Venus)...so getting clear about what you value in a relationship...and making sure what you're dealing with is true to that? I would say that a retro period is a period of sussing things out, maybe being aware of ways that you have not come from the heart in other relationships and making this one different. Or something. :) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:39:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#fb8cc256-eada-44c6-a131-785d021af00c $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T02:39:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a4153e9f-872d-488f-a581-1c3083ce5cf8 Yeah, I'm curious about what Melissa said. My ex started a new relationship right about 7/26 or so, and she seems *really* taken by him. He's even proposed a Playa Wedding to her for next Burning Man and she seems really stoked. I want to feel happy for her and hope that she finds all that she's looking for, but I can't deny I also feel an edge of thinking this is all a very whimsical rebound* fantasy unfolding before her and that she's gonna fall hard at some point when this initial phase of novel romance wears off and certain realities start cropping up. *There was never any true closure with our relationship and we were still in a process of working things out one way or another up till about June. ...Is there a generally accepted length of time that qualifies the rebound period? I imagine it's totally dependent on each individual, but I'm just asking for the sake of verification. Meanwhile I keep getting all these flaky women who act like they're really interested and then do a 180 all of a sudden without any apparent rhyme or reason. And when I ask what's up, they just treat me like I'm crazy for wondering. Arrrgghh! ...I've met some people who do especially well during retro periods while others get all f**cked up. Why is that? Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:37:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a4153e9f-872d-488f-a581-1c3083ce5cf8 "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-10T02:37:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a0db9a0a-20e5-4759-a20b-b0623e78944f Thanks Steve Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:29:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a0db9a0a-20e5-4759-a20b-b0623e78944f Melissa 2007-09-10T02:29:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#9b483877-04c4-43a9-bc30-816bae54b37e melissa, i'd clear the question from my mind and maybe look at it later if there's any reason to --but never let a single aspect or factor (or even a bunch of them) discourage a seemingly good relationship. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:07:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#9b483877-04c4-43a9-bc30-816bae54b37e stevo diVino 2007-09-10T02:07:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e8bbabbf-ab06-4aa0-9f30-a25ea29b910e I just realized Venus is conjunct my Ascendant, too. Woohoo! I should get out on the town! Vineet and Steve, sorry to hear about the relationship troubles. My partner's Venus will be at his 7th house when he comes over from England at the end of October. I hope that gives a good chance he might propose? If not.............. I'll be crying in my Newcastle beer. Dang those Venus in Sagittarius! They want to set up house, but not make it binding. arrggh......... Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:07:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e8bbabbf-ab06-4aa0-9f30-a25ea29b910e $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T02:07:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#187340b0-599a-4508-8672-7dc4950cb700 it's okay, i love you just the same :) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:02:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#187340b0-599a-4508-8672-7dc4950cb700 stevo diVino 2007-09-10T02:02:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6a0927e3-0f1f-4ccd-ba2d-a37b9fd0693b Anyone have any thoughts on the fact that during this retro phase I've started what seems to be a really great relationship? It doesn't seem to fit all of the things I've heard. Should it only get better? Anyone relate to this? Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:55:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6a0927e3-0f1f-4ccd-ba2d-a37b9fd0693b Melissa 2007-09-10T01:55:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#5b6d9171-1c14-4f6a-b5c7-acb81452acd1 I wasn't talking to you, sorry. I was talking to the ladies. little mix up there. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:39:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#5b6d9171-1c14-4f6a-b5c7-acb81452acd1 Vineet 2007-09-10T01:39:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#2d1ccae2-68a5-4629-a65c-76a2bc1716db when it turned direct, the retro had carried venus back to where it had been on 6/19, so the whole movie will have lasted from 6/19 (12* Leo) thru 10/12 (3*Virgo) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:24:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#2d1ccae2-68a5-4629-a65c-76a2bc1716db stevo diVino 2007-09-10T00:24:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#9daa0343-c940-4839-a10d-f3b0aaecab3a My experience has been similar in the respect to "I got a fresh perspective on a broken relationship that was totally unexpected, and I'm finally able to move on... at least, I think I am. Somehow, all the strange things that have been going on seem much clearer for everyone. A drunken party ensued, and everyone had more fun than they've had in a long time." Of course my fun may have come out as my love being expressive rather than just repressed and i'm still making sense of everything. I don't know if i recommend alcohol on a day that venus goes direct. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:19:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#9daa0343-c940-4839-a10d-f3b0aaecab3a Solenne 2007-09-10T00:19:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#0355070f-38e7-45e2-bb85-e50d5c4f4318 i wasn't even thinking that Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:10:10 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#0355070f-38e7-45e2-bb85-e50d5c4f4318 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T00:10:10Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#2727e313-114e-44b7-86ae-6a7ec2ffc28c wasn't trying to correct you, btw --i was working on it while you were posting Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:08:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#2727e313-114e-44b7-86ae-6a7ec2ffc28c stevo diVino 2007-09-10T00:08:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#44285d27-02a8-49c4-b8b8-9ee53604f46d venus was retrograde for just about 6 weeks yeah, i'm feeling that moon / saturn conjunction today. blah and like allan, venus is making a direct contact to my natal venus - along with uranus trine. i've been on lots of dates lately too, there's been lots of opportunity to meet new folks, which has been fun ..... but today it feels like i just want something to solidify into a "real" relationship, rather than the light and non-commital stuff thats been happening . Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:08:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#44285d27-02a8-49c4-b8b8-9ee53604f46d kat 2007-09-10T00:08:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#83d8729c-b580-4edb-9289-2fe7573c7c56 we're both correct. you were prob reading GMT and I was reading EDT (1:++AM or so) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:07:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#83d8729c-b580-4edb-9289-2fe7573c7c56 stevo diVino 2007-09-10T00:07:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#19834afd-396c-4615-b2c6-af38d2bc9027 it would be silly not to enjoy the energy of any planet when it's crossing your asc Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:05:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#19834afd-396c-4615-b2c6-af38d2bc9027 stevo diVino 2007-09-10T00:05:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#bdd08863-4df5-4356-909d-744df43c732c stevo, thanks wasn't sure about that date. i guess my memory does not serve me right :) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:04:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#bdd08863-4df5-4356-909d-744df43c732c $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-10T00:04:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6dbee042-05b8-474d-9f15-d388c8fd0a4f it stationed retro on 7/27 at about 3* virgo. this episode will conclude on 10/12 when it gets back to where it was (3*virgo) and moves on into fresh territory again. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:01:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6dbee042-05b8-474d-9f15-d388c8fd0a4f stevo diVino 2007-09-10T00:01:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1da6c1b2-7f67-49ec-a542-aac95a9c9618 I don't mean this to sound arrogant but venus is conjunct my ascendant right now....this weekend I went to a wedding with a friend and we were laughing at the amount of catcalls, wolf whistles, and free drinks we recieved the whole trip there and back. I guess we are looking good lately.....................;-) Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:57:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1da6c1b2-7f67-49ec-a542-aac95a9c9618 Coors 2007-09-09T23:57:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6e83962d-8979-4ccb-82dd-92fa30df069c i think venus went retro 7/26 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:53:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#6e83962d-8979-4ccb-82dd-92fa30df069c $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T23:53:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#4aab7c37-3b61-4a8c-9b5c-2f9eb8ebfcc8 Oh, so Venus has been in Retro for a while now, eh? That would explain a *hell* of a lot. I'd be curious as well about when Retro began. It's heartening to know romantic energies will be flowing more directly and clearly forward now. Damn, it sure would be nice for a change. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:33:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#4aab7c37-3b61-4a8c-9b5c-2f9eb8ebfcc8 "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-09T23:33:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#181944b6-fd9c-4d03-88ec-1855f01b1b96 hmm... venus turning direct opposing transiting neptune rx, sextile transiting mars, and trans mars & trans nep trining. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:16:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#181944b6-fd9c-4d03-88ec-1855f01b1b96 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T23:16:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#13698f08-8fc8-4fd0-b027-80f53040ef37 thanks, but not just yet. we probably both have a few lessons to sort out first :) Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:03:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#13698f08-8fc8-4fd0-b027-80f53040ef37 stevo diVino 2007-09-09T23:03:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a7d92557-aff2-4c95-9d87-a981281e297d a balsamic moon and saturn are just about exactly conjunct right at the moment (give em another 10 minutes) and just as exactly opposed my n.node (cnj s.node) by morning the moon will ill have opposed my sun, pallas and mercury . . . with saturn lumbering along in its wake for the next (??) days or weeks. I'm a big fan of reality, so what the heck, bring it on. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:58:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#a7d92557-aff2-4c95-9d87-a981281e297d stevo diVino 2007-09-09T22:58:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#4f6a16f3-cf05-41d3-9bed-1f1913c0c929 you can call me :) chuckling. Not really, but sorta. Like I told her, I'm ripe for plucking. I hope she doesn't read this. I don't want to hurt her fealings. Truth is though, I do desire partnership. Wish it were her but it can't be. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:56:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#4f6a16f3-cf05-41d3-9bed-1f1913c0c929 Vineet 2007-09-09T22:56:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#f6d82330-12a0-4f17-a69f-f15f83c9d2a8 >>yeah, my geirlfriend and I broke up.<< my girlfriend thinks we broke up . . . i'm not so sure, so don't start calling just yet, ladies. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:49:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#f6d82330-12a0-4f17-a69f-f15f83c9d2a8 stevo diVino 2007-09-09T22:49:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#bdeb6c7a-2ceb-4c65-898d-83b511765add Nothing this weekend, though on thursday I ran into my first real love interest. She's now working at someplace I frequent, which is interesting. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:21:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#bdeb6c7a-2ceb-4c65-898d-83b511765add Tony 2007-09-09T22:21:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#4689edc3-de82-4bb1-94d9-662a4c769628 ... and I just found out the house the party was at burned down last night. god. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:17:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#4689edc3-de82-4bb1-94d9-662a4c769628 b 2007-09-09T22:17:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#b9da2ecd-ab2f-4527-9627-0b8545209679 Can someone tell me the date the Venus Retrograde started and ended? Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:59:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#b9da2ecd-ab2f-4527-9627-0b8545209679 YaMama 2007-09-09T21:59:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#ce01be2f-e837-4a4d-adc5-c78c94f19093 dragonwire- morp- post a chart of the time when you got caught up with her and see what it says . kate Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:52:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#ce01be2f-e837-4a4d-adc5-c78c94f19093 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T21:52:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#007a5729-17a8-4409-895b-28e68a43648d Yes have reconnected w/ both past great loves. one to flirt one to just re-conect, (just message's so far). I think, we'll see intentions later...Dang scorpios...course Gem. moon just loves a mystery.. Venus is around my MC. and the 1st I spoke of has it around Asc. still not sure about the other...Our 1st real comunication, getting true birth data is top of list. along w/ catching up on our respective kids.. Curiosity got me by the tail... Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:28:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#007a5729-17a8-4409-895b-28e68a43648d Dragon-of-Q 2007-09-09T21:28:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#dd66ad96-8d48-48e7-ae44-3ede6697dfcb my ex-college had their graduation on the 8th, which I attended because I know the senior class pretty well. The school is wrought with political scandals and underhanded tactics, and there is a lot of animosity between the students and administration. But somehow, it was one of the most touching graduations I've been to... happy and light. The weather was beautiful. I saw a woman there whom I'd slandered months ago for not being honest with me, creating a huge rift and a heated confrontation. Today we apologized for saying those awful things. We are no longer angry and we shook hands. I got a fresh perspective on a broken relationship that was totally unexpected, and I'm finally able to move on... at least, I think I am. Somehow, all the strange things that have been going on seem much clearer for everyone. A drunken party ensued, and everyone had more fun than they've had in a long time. My friend had his birthday on the 6th, and went to the city to celebrate. Haven't heard from him since, so I know he's probably had an exciting past few days... There is a lot more, but I'm not going to go into it. The venus retrograde has really effected me and everyone I know, I think. We all agree life has been crazy for the past few months and now seems to be getting better, a new slate to work from (at least, that was my impression from the drunken rants). Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:27:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#dd66ad96-8d48-48e7-ae44-3ede6697dfcb b 2007-09-09T21:27:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#bcd42fc1-a3d6-49cf-ae36-5cf7a66b0acb I have been going on a bunch of random dates... and being dragged around left and right... outta the house... Natal Venus at 16 Taurus...Jupiter 16 Aquarius... then this one at 16 Leo... I just came back from church a couple hours ago... and it was like Disney Land... the guy was "filled" with so much spirit he forgot to preach... and asked for money... money.... and how great his own private Disney Land was better then any small church on the block. People confuse me.... Is that a good thing Vineet? Venus going direct... clear-minded decision! Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:26:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#bcd42fc1-a3d6-49cf-ae36-5cf7a66b0acb $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T21:26:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1de0e7b6-fe5c-42fc-9ee1-6aa284b19c5e I honestly think the gas may have been due to the passing of the total eclipse(shoot a pun) and the one approaching . I did find myself buying picture frames which seems very much Venus -my uncle started going through his jewlery box around the time it went direct. Nexus, -I must see his chart now something profoundly jupiter and mercury maybe ? if i find it I'll post it on the "Astrological Heroes and Vilians" kate Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:19:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#1de0e7b6-fe5c-42fc-9ee1-6aa284b19c5e $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T21:19:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#433b16f2-4ef5-4704-b581-dfec1f30a668 yeah, my geirlfriend and I broke up. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:20:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#433b16f2-4ef5-4704-b581-dfec1f30a668 Vineet 2007-09-09T20:20:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#b76a1c95-24e0-4e02-83e6-1fc14d7f55bc ** couldn't ** Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:07:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#b76a1c95-24e0-4e02-83e6-1fc14d7f55bc Blue 2007-09-09T20:07:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#d8964662-bf5c-4525-b779-a5b2f7103a1b funny you should say this.................I also have a bad headache and woke up with this today oh and i could sleep last night..............having thoughts or dreams .......that made no sense sucks Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:06:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#d8964662-bf5c-4525-b779-a5b2f7103a1b Blue 2007-09-09T20:06:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#aac9b892-897f-4cb4-b255-3531197d108c i never have anything happen during venus rx, therefore i have no experiences to share. venus turned direct on my moon this time & nada. the last one hit my sun mercury jupiter conjunction a couple of times and turned direct on my north node & nada. I am not going to whine. hell i'd rather have nada then a farting bonanza.. lol Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:38:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#aac9b892-897f-4cb4-b255-3531197d108c $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T19:38:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#15ae8e05-73da-488b-9402-f7e97306deb6 Sunyata Retrogrades in general support a time when we look back, or review the old, rather than move forward into the new. Contemplate. So in venus' case, it would be reviewing or contemplating things venus represents - relationships, values, creativity. I know several people who had experiences with their exes during this retrograde cycle - some re-visiting their connection, some coming to terms with finally terminating it. From the article I posted by Lara Owen: Venus turns direct on September 8, at 16 Leo. Venus retrograde all summer dampened the usual festivities (quite literally in many parts, with flooding and torrential rain) but now turns direct, helping relationships in general and romantic love in particular. If you’ve felt held back or frustrated in your love life, take heart, a better phase begins now. It won’t be free of the influence of the retrograde or of Saturn, (which Venus conjuncts three times during this phase) until October 10, when Venus gets back to the place it turned around at. The combination of Venus and Pluto turning direct at the same time should be of benefit to world financial markets, which have stumbled in recent weeks. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:29:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#15ae8e05-73da-488b-9402-f7e97306deb6 kat 2007-09-09T19:29:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#aa036f65-bbf5-4d1e-afc3-41f961d87479 I have not really perused in any great depth the correlations between Venus going retrogarde and farting. I have occasionally wondered what configurations 'Le Petomane' had in his chart - perhap he had a lot of gas and air in his nativity. He gave performances on stage where he was able to melodiously pipe the French National Anthem from his bottom. He could also do warplanes and bomb impressions. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:19:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#aa036f65-bbf5-4d1e-afc3-41f961d87479 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T19:19:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#918ad5af-c9da-4743-a181-6493ab7f740d Since Venus is the planet of Love, I imagine it means something like this is when things line up to support the manifestation of Love in one's life. Am I close? Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:58:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#918ad5af-c9da-4743-a181-6493ab7f740d "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-09T18:58:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#364c1f48-ec70-4df6-898b-30cef2202008 Say, what does it mean for Venus to go Direct? What's supposed to happen? I know what Mercury Retrograde's about, as well as Saturn Return, but I'm not schooled on Venus Direct. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:56:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#364c1f48-ec70-4df6-898b-30cef2202008 "Marley" ˚˚°º☆º°˚˚ 2007-09-09T18:56:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#063974d0-162d-45fb-8c65-1c56e59bf86b ((((((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))))) sorry about the headache, Kate! But ........ LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO @ the farting!!! I can safely say, no farts over here. However, I did have some wicked battles with the EX today, and I could classify him as a fart. :oP Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:12:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#063974d0-162d-45fb-8c65-1c56e59bf86b $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T18:12:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#888fab99-f147-48e1-9480-d163bb50ba61 I had a major headache one that put me into tears. Got a call from a friend -framed some photo's for a love one . Not sure if it was interesting or not but the headache was really bad and drawn out. I noticed everyone I came acrossed or had contact with was farting, I even heard farting over the reciever of phone calls that i had recieved. A couple of store clerks even were doing it . I was begining to think that my bottom might be a ventriloquist throwing rude sounds at other people's bottoms or maybe I am having onset of shizophrenia and it is some kind of strange hallicination . Overall I mostly framed pictures -heard gas and was having a headaches -that can be interesting I suppose. kate Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:09:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#888fab99-f147-48e1-9480-d163bb50ba61 $item.owner.firstName 2007-09-09T18:09:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e34aef5e-40f2-41e3-b40c-4496924cbb89 venus turned direct this weekend - anyone have any interesting venus experiences? Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:53:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6a6f1786-241c-459d-83ba-b5063900c501#e34aef5e-40f2-41e3-b40c-4496924cbb89 kat 2007-09-09T17:53:18Z