When people post their charts on tribe for example..

topic posted Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:55 AM by  Joey
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Why do they take out their birth time and location?
Just to be more private? or is there other reasons?
because I want to post my chart but i dunno if I should take it out since other people are
....
what should I do?
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Joey
Oregon
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  • There's some logic to not displaying your birth location or name, however if you have a chart you can - if you have a clue about the continent - determine within minutes when the person's born since uranus narrows down the decade, saturn narrows down the 2-3 year span, jupiter the year and on it goes and then just go on and find the moon and finally the asc and there's the whole chart.
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    • I got really paranoid about someone asking someone else for their exact details on where and when they were born. You could if you were obsessive enough track down the hospital (in some situations) etc etc.

      I don't know why I got so paranoid, but I'm embarassed about it now.

      (you know who you are - sorry!)
      • I've been known to ask for the name of the hospital in which the native was born so I could use google earth to get the precise Latitude and Longitude for the chart. I started doing this when I found the Lat/Long for certain cities to be off. I had an astrology teacher who showed me how the coordinates for San Diego, CA, for example, were a mile or two out to sea! I haven't checked on that in a while, but San Diego *is* a big place, and one could be born at many different edges of the whole place, and that can change some things. When a chart has cusp issues with the ascendant or something, it pays to have complete accuracy to a certain extent, but most of the time asking for the hospital is just hairsplitting nonsense IMO.
      • "I got really paranoid about someone asking someone else for their exact details on where and when they were born. You could if you were obsessive enough track down the hospital (in some situations) etc etc.

        I don't know why I got so paranoid, but I'm embarassed about it now.

        (you know who you are - sorry!) "


        Speaking as someone who has actually had that happen to them, it's not paranoia. It's fact.

        Cover up and protect your info, folks.
  • You could always just make a chart with the name anonymous or ?, or whatever, some folks post charts that are related to other people and not necessarily themselves.
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      to me its just not good form to display any personal information publicly. you don't know who is going to look at that image or what they could do with it. I'm not particularly worried about the astrologers on tribe, but this is the internet, and someone could waltz on here and see it and use for identity theft or who knows.
      • well, there are over 4500 members on astrology tribe listed, not all of them astrologers...
        • Attie

          Haha yeah one could really go off in a paranoid spin wheel, however since this tribe has been around a while people may have left their accounts and created new ones over the years.

          I actually signed up like twice on this tribe, then forgot my username/password as time went by, did it again and THEN I created this one and stuck around because I liked it and now this is my main astrology online discussion forum, before it was another.

          Not to mention that most people don't even know that astrology is based on precise birth data with birth time and all, you have to get into astrology to know that. The general person thinks astrology is starsigns(sunsigns) and strange calculations of remote star constellations.
          • It's not paranoia, folks. It's a valid concern.

            I'm currently three years into a situation with a cyber-stalker who pieced together my actual name and location based on stuff I'd say about myself here and there. And it wasn't like I was giving out my info freely online - I'm notoriously freaky about my privacy, but just based off small things I said here and there, she apparently had enough to go on, and was mentally ill enough and persistent enough, to pull up info on my entire family (yes, she ran background checks on all of them), and post it up on random sites she knew I frequented - with a lot of lies mixed in.

            So Yes, it's possible. Yes, there are people that crazy with that little going on in their lives who will make finding you and harassing you, THEIR life's work.

            So don't make it easy by giving them a head start on what birthdate to use and what location to go looking for you in.
            • Book, did you do anything to provoke her?
              • "Book, did you do anything to provoke her? "

                How could I, when I didn't know she existed until after she started harassing me.
                • That's strange. Well, somehow I think she's an idiot for going after you. You strike me as the type of person who can defend herself and then make heads roll.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    "That's strange. Well, somehow I think she's an idiot for going after you. You strike me as the type of person who can defend herself and then make heads roll."

                    I found out (rather, I connected the dots later) that she knew someone I knew. She knew OF me, I knew nothing of her until she made a few swipes at me out of nowhere, which threw me. I replied in kind, and figured that was that.

                    She apparently had other plans - and, three years in, several anonymous phone calls, and much stalking and harassment later, here I am.

                    I can hold my own, but even I get tired of dealing with people's bullshit. So now I'm just waiting for her to trip up so I have something concrete to take to the police. Yay me!
                    • Whew, okay well then atleast you had some connections in real life as opposed to just getting randomly picked by a psycho on the internet, even though I understand that it didn't make much of a difference to you.

                      I've had apx two different calling/hanging uppers and one time there were more than one that called on a cellphone that I hadn't used in years and knew my name and had seen me on the street etc and I had no idea who they were. Although I never got scared because it was obvious that they simply didn't have a life and had thereby remembered me a little too long. The other one just called my then cellphone from an anonymous number and hung up for like 2 months but it stopped when I asked why the person had nothing better to do than call and hang up regularly.

                      So they weren't real stalkers... I can't imagine getting in touch with a real one. Even ex-romances that call frequently after you break up with them easily gets scary.
                • Book

                  That's creepy to say the least. Did she say what she wanted, like what she wanted out of you? And do you mind if I ask, was it an astrology forum that she "found you" on and gathered info about you?
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    "That's creepy to say the least. Did she say what she wanted, like what she wanted out of you? And do you mind if I ask, was it an astrology forum that she "found you" on and gathered info about you?"

                    Other than saying that she is determined to see me kill myself, telling me I won't be around by 2012, and that I am the Whore of Babylon and Luzbel (which I actually had to look up), nope, she hasn't told me a thing. :P

                    I've since seen with my own eyes and also heard from others, that I'm not the first person she has done this shit to. Nor am I the last.
                    • Book

                      No!
                      That's awful! I hope they send her to psychiatric care. Jesus. Good luck to you with that. And remember to bring that up to the police...!
                      • "No!
                        That's awful! I hope they send her to psychiatric care. Jesus. Good luck to you with that. And remember to bring that up to the police...!"

                        Yeah - I've already found out for a fact that she's schizophrenic but refuses to take any medication, and three years in, she doesn't appear to have any plans to stop her stalking and harassment - which has extended to new targets, and my concern too is that one day she will do this to someone who isn't as strong as I am and can't deal - think the Megan Meier case. I just had a falling out with a friend who has suddenly done a complete turnaround and is essentially coming to this woman's defense and telling me that law enforcement won't do anything and that I expect them to bend over backwards for me.

                        People are grand! :P
                        • Unsu...
                           
                          I'm always interested in astrological connections in stalkers and in being stalked, and it seems like Virgo in particular is very good at it (the researcher in them). I'm not sure why some of us seem to attract stalkers more than others, but I do know that even men who are interested in me and I have dated have kind of stalked me, though I sort of stalk too (only via search engines - I am good at researching ppl, but I have never harassed!). Pluto seems to me to be a planet that would incline people to stalk because it relates so much to obsession and feeling so compelled about someone. Supposedly Pluto transits to your natal Venus, Mars and Moon, or over the 5th or 7th house cusp, are the most likely to bring out the inner stalker in you or someone else.

                          We talked a little bit about stalkers in another thread a while back:
                          astronuts.tribe.net/thread/6...802daae6f