Tribe.net. Local Connections Paul http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#4d0f5837-bcbb-40cf-a282-8eefc6543998 2009-07-01T15:51:49Z 2009-07-01T15:51:49Z

Cynthia What's quite important here is that the Moon is also square your Sun and both the Sun and Saturn relate to the father, which means that your Moon is receiving stressful aspects to both your planets that relate to Fatherhood, especially in a woman's chart. Also it's not just Moon opposition Saturn, it's opposition Saturn-Jupiter conjunction! By and large I would suggest your relationship with your parents has been a somewhat emotionally distant one, perhaps your needs weren't met by your parents, particularly the father, or there may be some suggestion of your parents not getting on or perceiving one parent as being somehow more distant or emotionally cut off, whether physically or not. As an adult you may carry expectations that nobody will satisfy your strong needs and desires and as a result you may not want to open yourself up to expecting too much only to be cut down later and left dissatisfied. Saturn in the 7H AS WELL suggests that this is most likely in your relatinoships to others, not necessarily a 'loved one', but more likely so. It is likely you will expect your significant others to satisfy the needs that subconciously were not met by the father and there may be an attraction therefore to Father type figures or people who remind you conciously oor otherwise of your own father and of course the latent problem being that your father did not satisfy your emotional needs. This might lead to you attract the very person who, like your father, won't satisfy your emotional needs. Inevitably you wil lhave to work on this yourself so that you no longer look to others for these strong emotional needs. With your Sun-Pluto sextile also involving the 7H, it is likely that some transformation of some sort will have to occur in this realm - basically your attitudes regarding emotional security and who provides it will have to be transformed and this may be quite difficult to undergo, but will ultimately be a good thing. Alternately you will fall for a father figure who WON'T leave you and this will transform your attitudes toward yourself and your own father etc etc.

Paul 2009-07-01T15:51:49Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#fdec09d7-32f4-4ef3-b431-fe120c3c3389 2009-07-01T15:13:28Z 2009-07-01T15:13:28Z

I just made my natal chart available in my photos. My first house moon is in fact conjunct the ascendant. I'm just a beginner at this, so I'm still learning about how the other aspects play into the Moon-Saturn opposition. As for my parents, I can see how they could have instilled rigid emotional attitudes in me while I was growing up. There was a definite emphasis on duty and correct behavior, even when it meant ignoring my emotions and instincts. In adulthood I think this has made me seem kind of cold and unemotional. People tend to think that I just don't like them, even though that's not the case at all. Many thanks for your advice, everyone. What you've said has really hit home with me.

$item.owner.firstName 2009-07-01T15:13:28Z SecSip http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#1d04eb47-c5ca-4bc4-b6d4-a6dca0945cb7 2009-06-29T19:58:51Z 2009-06-29T19:58:51Z

Okay I had to read up on what it meant again since I just learned about aspects. Yea... =/ I'm 39 and this one still seems to linger but not as strongly as it use to. When I do allow my inner wall to go down I often times do get hurt by what I refer to as toxic people or situations. But from what I have read it is this part of me that is attracting these types of people to me as well as me be attracted to certain things. I hope that makes sense. I suppose I'm worse off when I am completely guarded or I completely take my guard down. What I mean by letting my guard down is essentially placing myself (a kitten) in the middle of a busy highway. That's what it feels like I end up doing. I don't think I'm making any sense lol I think I'm still working on this one. :)

SecSip 2009-06-29T19:58:51Z Paul http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#0866d23c-b2c5-47c2-b1a6-6ab40f9ecd80 2009-06-29T19:48:57Z 2009-06-29T19:48:57Z

Cynthia What was your realtionship with your father and mother like growing up? It's not unsual for moon-saturn issues to show up in the father-mother realtionship. With Moon in the first house you are inclined to view the world through a highly subjective and perhaps 'needy' lens (especially if conjunct the ascendant) and it could be that you are looking for your partner to be the 'anchor' in your life. Ultimately with the oppositions we always have to try and incorporate them internally to make the most out of them. I don't have this aspect myself, but something similar, a first house saturn square moon.

Paul 2009-06-29T19:48:57Z SecSip http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#848344a5-e44a-4be2-8045-911659f0889f 2009-06-29T19:32:10Z 2009-06-29T19:32:10Z

I have this opposition in my chart.

SecSip 2009-06-29T19:32:10Z Unsubconscious http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#88737b49-955c-45f0-a324-e15a90cda324 2009-06-29T19:13:25Z 2009-06-29T19:13:25Z

Hi Cynthia, everyone has a saturn, so we are all somehow somewhere a bit stiff and anxious. I tell this because it MIGHT make you feel a little less lonely. Some people manage to hide their stiffness and anxieties a bit better than others. Still, we all have this horrible awkward part where we feel lonely and unable to connect to the rest of the world. In fact the only way to overcome it, is to learn to live with it. We all have a weak spot, and yours happens to be connected to your emotions - and women, I suppose, and your 'roots', your early years AND... the things you need in order to feel safe. Could it be true you actually NEED a bit of distance as well (in your dealings with others I mean) in order to feel OK? Would you feel really at ease if you had to give up that distance? Apart from learning to live with it, you could also try to become an expert on emotions. You could start by trying to find out what you feel. The next step would be: trying to express those emotions in words (or in any art form). Or maybe you don't need this advice; maybe you'll know exactly what to do in order to become that expert :-)

Unsubconscious 2009-06-29T19:13:25Z ~FaF~ http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#7bafefcd-0bbe-4d87-a89f-8c3f87088e18 2009-06-29T19:06:16Z 2009-06-29T19:03:59Z

Cynthia, What Sign is the moon in? Does the Moon or Saturn have other aspects? could you post a chart in your photos?

~FaF~ 2009-06-29T19:03:59Z sherpa http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#3fd1c552-21fa-4b00-bd33-61f89047176d 2009-06-29T19:05:24Z 2009-06-29T19:05:24Z

Though this is a difficult opposition, you were born with it for a reason. The only thing you can get rid of here is the naive attitude that life should always be easy. When you learn to approach what is difficult in life with more courage and commitment, great happiness will come to you. I don't know your age but if you are not yet 29, your Saturn Return will certainly clarify this process for you. "There are no classes in life for beginners; right away you are always asked to deal with what is most difficult. What is required of us is that we love the difficult and learn to deal with it. In the difficult are the friendly forces, the hands that work on us. Right in the difficult we must have our joys, our happiness, our dreams: there against the depth of this background, they stand out, there for the first time we see how beautiful they are." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

sherpa 2009-06-29T19:05:24Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/5c7aca93-aacf-4416-b61e-b6576cbf1824#2f48f1a2-6544-4ecf-a337-45a559af1ecb 2009-06-29T18:50:36Z 2009-06-29T18:50:36Z

I have Moon (in the first house) opposition Saturn (in the seventh house) in my natal chart. I wish I could get rid of it. It makes me emotionally stiff and anxious, among other problems. I've read some interpretations that say its limitations can be diminished with the right efforts, but that's easier said than done. I'd really appreciate any astrological advice on this aspect...

$item.owner.firstName 2009-06-29T18:50:36Z