About uranus influence on some of this gemini creatures, i know
that Bob Dylan has moon uranus conjunction, and Marilyn Monroe had moon in aquarius

There are many different systems of rulership.

We can start off with the more common method of dividing a sign into decanates, or 3 ten-degree sections. Using this method, Gemini as a whole is ruled by Mercury. However, the second decanate is also flavored by Libra, and thus Venus, while the third decanate is flavored by Aquarius, and thus Saturn and Uranus. Being born with the Sun in this decanate, I've always had a particular fondness for Aquarian people, and been a bit of a rebel, but Mercury is definitely my primary ruler.....honest!

Another rulership system was taught by Alice Anne Bailey, where each sign had three different levels: Mundane, Esoteric and Hierarchical.
According to her, Gemini's rulers in those three levels were, respectively, Mercury, Venus, and Earth. Uranus was the Mundane ruler of Aquarius, the Esoteric ruler of Libra, and the Hierarchical ruler of Aries.

Then there are those that believe that only the traditional planets rule signs. These astrologers do not see Uranus, Neptune or Pluto ruling any signs.

There are also those who add more bodies into the stew. Take Ceres, for example. When first discovered, it was called a planet, then demoted to asteroid, then promoted to dwarf planet. Some astrologers feel that this body rules Virgo. Chiron is given by some astrologers as rulership over Virgo, by others over Libra, by some over Sagittarius, and a few even add it to Scorpio. Along these lines, there are astrologers who have added several other minor planets as having partial rulership over different signs. It has been hypothesized that Aquarius gets its unconventional nature, not from Uranus, but from the fact that the asteroid Damocles spends most of its orbit in that one sign....giving Aquarians the feeling that they never know when the other shoe is going to drop. And the asteroid Pallas is named after a Goddess of Wisdom who was born from her father's head.....a 'brain child', as it were, and is often described ad representing one’s capacity for creative wisdom and original perception. Some have given this body to Gemini.

There are several astrologers who feel that the Earth rules Taurus, and that a yet-undiscovered body past Pluto (Carl Payne Tobey called this body Planet Z) rules Gemini. Planet Z supposedly takes 900-1000 years to orbit the Sun.

You mentioned Bob Dylan and Marilyn Monroe, Kafka and Rousseau. But I can think of some very un-Uranian Gemini people, and some very Uranian people of other Sun Signs. British Queen Victoria, the longest-reigning monarch in English history, was a Gemini, who
displayed a personality marked by strong prejudices and a willful stubbornness that was much unlike typical Gemini or typical Uranians.
Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, though a medical doctor, is much more widely known for his stories of Sherlock Holmes who had an acute sense of deductive reasoning that was in many ways more like a Scorpio than a Gemini, and certainly not Uranian.

Non-Gemini's who were Uranian? Let's take, for example, the signers of the Declaration of Independence, a document declaring a very daring and Uranian event. Benjamin Rush was a Sagittarius. John Adams was a Scorpio. John Hancock, who made a point of signing his name so large that he stood out even among the other 55 revolutionaries, was a Capricorn. Samuel Adams was a Libra, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Harris were both Aries, and Stephen Hopkins was a Pisces. In fact, William Hooper was the only signer known to be a Gemini (although there were 9 signers with birthdates unknown.) Known to be Aquarians were Abraham Clark, Joseph Hewes, Robert Morris and John Witherspoon....so at least these few lived up to their Aquarian revolutionary sign.

Anyway.....

One of the things that originally attracted me to Vedic astrology was a return to the traditional planetary lordships. Every astrologer prior to the discover of Uranus, whether Vedic or Greek or whatever, used this system. What I love about it is its symmetry. Every planet rules two signs, except the Sun and the Moon, which rule one sign each. The signs of the Sun and the Moon show the symmetrical division, so you end up with a lunar and solar half of the zodiac, sort of like the inhale and exhale of the solar system. From there, the planets go in order from closest to the Sun to furthest from the Sun.

Lunar Half (inhale of solar system):
Aquarius - Saturn
Pisces - Jupiter
Aries - Mars
Taurus - Venus
Gemini - Mercury
Cancer - Moon

Solar Half (exhale of solar system):
Leo - Sun
Virgo - Mercury
Libra - Venus
Scorpio - Mars
Sagittarius - Jupiter
Capricorn - Saturn

I think we are in an exciting time in astrology with a lot of experimentation, innovation, and personal creativity. I think it's great to experiment with different possibilities and to see which ones work by putting them into practice and really testing them. But I also think it's important for astrologers to learn this traditional system of lordships and really understand it. In my opinion, there is a lot of wisdom in this system. There has to be if that's what all astrologers used for thousands for thousands of years!

Eventually I want to study the outer planets and learn more about them. But in my mind, using the outer planets in astrology is still an ongoing human experiment. Astrology as a science took thousands of years to evolve, maybe more. So only time will tell what the outer planets are really up to.

David

i think that you should read up on hermes (mercury)... if you haven't. you'll see that he was extremely inventive/creative, rebellious, and youthful... he has alot of qualities that are very similar to those associated with uranus.

YOur discussion and the question you are arising here
are rather interesting,my dear..
Still we have to think about the similiarities that often take place in and between
some definite signs..
Indeed Hermes is very inventive and creative=new ways and innovations,also interests in experimentations,
so it is just ALIKE Uranus,but why Uranus itself..?
Then we can also compare others signs with their ruling planets ..

I have read once that the same element signs are often influenced
by the sign after!
But here we should get that Aquarius had to be like Gemini described,
and Gemini like Libra described...
Why I tell u this?
Cos there are lots of interpretations and descriptions in Astrology,
only them which are proved to be true,are acknowledged in the long run..


SO Cheers!Good that you are trying to discover something new :))))
Are u Gemini or Aquarius anyway ? :))))

I am Gemini myself.
I know Aquarius (not one),that are very innovative and non standard ppl ..
I am very creative and also Innovative in my ways of life :))))

Let`s judge together ;)

Would love if u add me

I think that Uranus is too 'transpersonal' for the Gemini next door ~ Mercury, as a personal planet, is more appropriate

love all-ways,
mem