Star-Gazers,
The zodiac is not just out there, it's in here. All of the planets and all of the signs are within us. We are the solar system. This understanding of planet/chakra correspondances comes from Vedic astrology, but can be used by anyone wanting a direct connection to the planets.
ROOT CHAKRA - SATURN
Inhale: Aquarius
Exhale: Capricorn
SEX CHAKRA - JUPITER
Inhale: Pisces
Exhale: Sagittarius
WILL CHAKRA - MARS
Inhale: Aries
Exhale: Scorpio
HEART CHAKRA - VENUS
Inhale: Taurus
Exhale: Libra
THROAT CHAKRA - MERCURY
Inhale: Gemini
Exhale: Virgo
THIRD EYE CHAKRA - SUN & MOON
Inhale: Cancer
Exhale: Leo
CROWN CHAKRA - BEYOND ZODIAC (OUTER PLANETS??)
As you can see, this creates a wheel through our energy body. The inhale or lunar breath draws energy up from the root chakra to the third eye, while moving through the zodiac from Aquarius to Cancer. The exhale or solar breath sends energy back down from the third eye to the root, moving from Leo to Capricorn and completing the zodiac.
Using your breath and visualization of the chakras as planets and signs can help you to connect with your energy body and the astrological forces within you, and can open a lot of doors for deeper understanding of astrology.
There is a solar system within you!!!!
Feel free to share your experiences with this or other chakra meditations, or share your own chakra/planet correspondances here.
Namaste,
David
The zodiac is not just out there, it's in here. All of the planets and all of the signs are within us. We are the solar system. This understanding of planet/chakra correspondances comes from Vedic astrology, but can be used by anyone wanting a direct connection to the planets.
ROOT CHAKRA - SATURN
Inhale: Aquarius
Exhale: Capricorn
SEX CHAKRA - JUPITER
Inhale: Pisces
Exhale: Sagittarius
WILL CHAKRA - MARS
Inhale: Aries
Exhale: Scorpio
HEART CHAKRA - VENUS
Inhale: Taurus
Exhale: Libra
THROAT CHAKRA - MERCURY
Inhale: Gemini
Exhale: Virgo
THIRD EYE CHAKRA - SUN & MOON
Inhale: Cancer
Exhale: Leo
CROWN CHAKRA - BEYOND ZODIAC (OUTER PLANETS??)
As you can see, this creates a wheel through our energy body. The inhale or lunar breath draws energy up from the root chakra to the third eye, while moving through the zodiac from Aquarius to Cancer. The exhale or solar breath sends energy back down from the third eye to the root, moving from Leo to Capricorn and completing the zodiac.
Using your breath and visualization of the chakras as planets and signs can help you to connect with your energy body and the astrological forces within you, and can open a lot of doors for deeper understanding of astrology.
There is a solar system within you!!!!
Feel free to share your experiences with this or other chakra meditations, or share your own chakra/planet correspondances here.
Namaste,
David
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 10:16 AMcool thanx ~ that makes lots of sense!
love all-ways,
mem
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 10:31 AMThese impositions of astrological correspondences to the Hindu Chakra system may be traditionally correct to a certain system and can probably be appreciated by Geminis and Virgos and others who favor their conceptualizations. I personally see this list as impediments to the direct experience of the chakras themselves and as a well-meaning yet misguided attempt to connect us with the energy of the planets.
Just like each Central Nervous System differs in its capacities and ways of absorbing, integrating and transmitting information and/or energy, so too does each chakra system in each person differ to reflect the impacts experienced throughout the individual life. It's a little like assigning certain colors to each chakra. It's an imposition. When I was trained and self-employed as a clairvoyant aura reader many years ago, the chakras I saw and read differed -- and sometimes, wildly -- with each person.
I do not disagree with your support of going within to experience the energy of the planets and I can see how certain people predisposed towards heavy conceptualization might find these correspondences you list as useful and intriguing. However, as a practicing astrologer, I find this list nauseatingly mental. My two cents. -
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 10:53 AMsherpa ~
I'm just looking for words, so that I can have conversations with other people about my *direct experience* ~ I think that's what words are *for* in the first place ~ my 2 scents :)
love all-ways,
mem
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 11:07 AMHey Sherpa,
you wrote:
"personally see this list as impediments to the direct experience of the chakras themselves and as a well-meaning yet misguided attempt to connect us with the energy of the planets."
with all due respect:
i see your comments as a well meaning yet misguided attempt to DISconnect us from the planets - as i see you do quite a lot. Some of us experience the planets directly, through the heart, and thus do not see the separation that you do. This DIRECT EXPERIENCE then takes root through the Astrological and ASTRAL zodiac.
To some of us Astrology is a holistic system that is inclusive of all..
David's presentation of the VEDIC (not Hindu) Zodiac as the inner Astral landscape is an inspiration to those of us who see it as such. It gives a visceral context to those of us who experience the planets directly and who wish to better understand how Astrology connects to life expereince and karma. -
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:15 PMHey Sam~
No need to defend this system of correspondences or your Gemini friend, David. There's been no attack from me, only expressions of my differing views. By the way, I doubt any of my comments here or elsewhere have any power to, as you say, "DISconnect us from the planets"; hehe.
May you join us all here in learning how to allow the differing and sometimes conflicting views and reactions to Astrology. -
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:29 PMhey sherpa~
You expressed a very strong veiw and replied to it strongly also. I found your words "nauseating and misguided, etc. " a bit strong. so i respectfully replied. as did another poster. I matched your tone in intensity. If you found it disrespectful though, i apologise.
also friend,.. per this:
"May you join us all here in learning how to allow the differing and sometimes conflicting views and reactions to Astrology."
may you drop your need to lecture me and keep an ongoing fued with me..
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:42 PMOh Sam, you are taking things too personally. I feel no fued with you. If you wish for me to express my honest opinion of you here on tribe, you have only to ask.
As for me lecturing you about permitting differences, I admit that sometimes my style comes off as pendantic -- not something I'm proud of -- but beneath that surface appearance is a sincere wish that you would allow the expression of more differences of opinion here without feeling like you need to come down on it or defend yourself or any system. -
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 3:16 PMSherpa,
I respect your opinion. Thanks for clarifying your position! Internet communication can require lots of patience and reservation of judgment. I assume you are not trying to be combative and are just sharing your honest opinion, which is great!
If imagining the chakras as planets is not for you, than you should not attempt it.
For me, I need to try something before I determine whether it works for me or not, and until I do I don't really have an opinion about it one way or another. That's how I stay real and keep from being too much in an artificial conceptualization of reality.
It's all in the experience!
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 3:23 PMDavid,
Thanks for respecting my opinion. I respect yours, too, I just don't agree with it. This is possible, yes ? Perhaps more accurate to say I respect your right to have a differing opinion and even moreso, I respect the intelligence you show in admitting that it is opinion and not scientific fact. Not trying to be combative; just expressing a difference of position here. By the way, I did try it out for myself before posting and could not find those connections without imposing them first.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 4:32 PMYes, you can respect someone without agreeing with them.
Sometimes you have to "impose" something first, before you can tell if it really fits, like how a new pair of shoes may feel funny at first. God knows, yoga definitely feels forced and imposed when I haven't done it in awhile, but that doesn't mean it's not food for my soul.
But at a certain point, you can tell if something just isn't working, and it's important to recognize that. This chakra meditation has worked extremely well for me, otherwise I wouldn't have taken the time to post it.
In the Vedic community, there are a lot of people who are heavily into tradition and figuring out the original, irrefutable rules of it all. I really appreciate those who are into that (like the Capricorns I love!), but I also have this creative and individualistic streak. I want to discover the tools (toys) and then work (play) with them in my own space, in my own way. I don't want to be limited by somebody else's interpretation of the ancient rule book. So I completely respect and acknowldedge the need to discover things on your own and not impose an artificial structure on your own direct experience. Astrology is an abstraction, and so it can either connect us with our experience or veil it, depending on how we use it. For me, connecting astrology with the human energy body makes it real, something I can feel at a deep level. It really was a great epiphany for me to realize that the planets and signs weren't "out there", they aren't these distant abstract concepts, they are right here, right now, they are part of me.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 4:51 PMDR,
I have found that those who actually practice Vedic Astrology full time or who have taken it deeply beyond the point of just study are also very creative with it and open to others interpretations.. I have not found the close minded archetype too often, at least not with those who are actually using it truthfully.
I do not know any notable Vedic Astrologers who are close minded per se,, they have all taken the rules and applied them individually, there is no other way -- I only say this because learning the rules and what why they mean what they do is very important to vedic astrology -- they is not a barrier to creativity, they are a support for it.. and western astrology also, i might add -- they provide a structure for a creative mind to flourish for the nervous system to interact and be truthfully connected to the mechanics of the art / practice -- at least that had been my expereince.. -
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 6:14 PMI absolutely agree, Sam. The more I learn, the more my creative process is enriched. There is a place where the information connects with my direct experience, and magic happens. I also notice I reach plateaus with it where I feel especially connected to the knowledge and liberated to express it however I like and be creative with it. Right now, studying with our friend Ernst Wilhelm, I am once again humbled and immersed in lots of new information which hasn't exactly coelesced into a beautiful epiphany yet. But I trust that it will, it always does eventually.
Don't get me wrong, I like the people who are truly dedicated to unearthing the wisdom of the ancients as it was recorded. In fact, I depend on them, since I don't feel like that's my strength. It's good to hear that you think the Vedic community is open to experimentation and creativity, I think so too!
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 8:09 PM"In fact, I depend on them, since I don't feel like that's my strength. It's good to hear that you think the Vedic community is open to experimentation and creativity, I think so too! "
Absolutely - I totally agree about Ernst also -- the stuf fhe does i would never do,, so i am glad he is there... same with all others who are informed -- It must be so --
vedic astrology is really just about 20 years old actually -- it has just re awakened -- there is a long way to go there.. You will be a big part of it DR!
On another note, it is interesting as you and sherpa discuss your shared paratheter connection and how it relates to Astrology..
For me - i have been doing Meditation since i was 21,, hard core detachment meditation.. floating off somewhere in communion with nothingness meditation -- having felt so disembodied for a long time, Astrology has been something very profound to ground me in the worldly the corresponding forces that have eluded me -- The spiritual nature of the world and the planets is so clear to me, actually the most real part -- it is their worldly nature that i still trying to embody with more strength and clarity.. It is an ongoing process to care about my appearance, clean my apartment, these worldly things.. i know it sounds strange, it is upside down in my head..
the otherworldly forces have been so strong in me for so long, yet embodying a tangible worldly life has been the tricky part..
Probably the reason why i can sound like a disconnected egghead when i write about it - thankfully in person though it is not so bad -- haha
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 5:21 PMDavid,
Thanks for clarifying. I like your communication style and your ease with language. Your words and the way they're used and combined convey to me someone writing, thinking and speaking from direct experience. Very cool.
re: "It really was a great epiphany for me to realize that the planets and signs weren't "out there", they aren't these distant abstract concepts, they are right here, right now, they are part of me. "
I can relate. My embodied experience of the energies that the astrological planets and signs represent, have become enlivened through an approach I have been developing with for almost thirty years now. It is a form of dynamic movement meditation called paratheatre. It is my yoga.
The word 'paratheatre' was originally coined by Polish theatre genius, Jerzy Grotowski (google his name). Inspired by his lead back in 1977, I set out to develop my own paratheatrical medium combining elements of his ideas, Stanislavski, modern dance and Zazen standing meditation techniques. Over the last ten years or so, I have incorporated certain elements inspired by Osho, such as his vision on "action v.s activity": www.paratheatrical.com/actions.html
Paratheatre (like some yoga) is, for better AND for worse, an elitist medium due to the tremendous time and commitment required that, for most people, make it almost impossible to achieve any proficiency in. To give you and others here a better idea of what I mean (and what I do besides astrology), I refer you to this article excerpted from my paratheatre workbook, "Towards an Archeology of the Soul": www.paratheatrical.com/orientation.html
Though paratheatre does not formally name these energies "Mars" or Capricorn" etc., their correspondences have proven resonant and meaningful over the years; sources and forces being universal and astrology being another abstraction and labelling process to help organize these raw signals into meaningful messages for communication purposes.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 6:05 PMohmigod, I love him!!!
When I was eighteen and disillusioned with traditional theatre and looking for something experimental, I came across a beautiful photo book about the Manhattan Project's Alice in Wonderland project. I totally fell in love and knew that was the direction my theatre work was going to go. I loved the idea of an "actor-centered" production, where you fit the parts and script to the actor, and not the other way around.
Years later I decided to create my own theatre company. For each production I would find small groups of people, choose a story from ancient mythology to work with, cast it and come up with a scene breakdown. Then we would improv the scenes and tape record them and generate our own actor-centered script that way. I did a production called Origins, which was four seperate vignettes based on myths: Quetzalcoatl, Sigurd Dragonslater, Isis & Osiris, and a story based on the Hindu triad of Brahma, Shiva, & Vishnu. I did another one that was a modern version of Dante's Inferno, as well as an improv-generated re-telling of Ikarus, which dealt with issues of changing from a matriarchal to patriarchal society. Since then I have also worked with a radical faerie sanctuary in Vermont to create an improv-generated version of the ancient gay love story, Gilgamesh & Enkidu.
Now, after working with a Playback Theatre company for a year, I am getting more and more into improv theatre. Recently I was part of Lola Tarot in Seattle, where we acted out live tarot readings for audience member questions. Everything was improvised. We had a bunch of random costumes and props, and would use the questioner's question, the cards they picked and their positions in the reading to create improv theatre. We did an intensive 9-month rehearsal period before we even performed, and this process taught me so much about the tarot (and astrology). There is nothing like actually embodying these archetypes for bringing their deeper meanings to life.
Since I connect the major arcana with the tarot, I did a fun (and powerful) theatre exercise with the cast where we acted out each other's Vedic charts, based on what we knew of the tarot cards! There is definitely some great potential in this type of "astro-drama", but I agree that not everyone can do it because it requires a certain skill set that for most people takes some time to develop. I would personally like to explore this stuff more.
I will check out the websites, thanks!
Please keep me informed about any performances and/or workshops you are involved in.
What a strange synchronicity..
David
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 10:58 AMthanks for sharing this David,..
I always like to see this and feel the inspirations.
I like how you include the breath also.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 11:29 AMthis is an intersting idea...thanks david...i like when people try to link systems together, even tho i think this experience of mapping would vary greatly depending on the individual.
personally i'd give the sex chakra over to scorpio and aries...maybe cause my aries is in venus and rules my carnal desires...or maybe cause i do not especially identify pisces and sag with blood....as a woman with her cycles those would be domains of scorpio. shedding of the skin, transformation...sex is an extremely transformative process...how i've known it anyway.
i'd say leo and cancer for the will, as the 'hara' (belly) is the home of the energy centre,,so they say in dance and alt medicine practices...however because my center of gravity and 'home' is in my upper chakras i'd have to disagree for myself.
pisces and sag i'd definately give the third eye....why would you put cancer and leo there if i may ask?
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 11:34 AM"why would you put cancer and leo there if i may ask?"
dynamic interaction of yin & yang, 1+1=3, sum greater than the whole, my guess....
love all-ways,
mem
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 12:04 PMoh, that could be "whole greater than the sum" ~ kinda makes more sense that way ~ I'm dyslexic :)
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 12:28 PMdislexic? you?
nahh, you're all-ways.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:07 PMi'm curious - where's your pisces mem?
good question, star_fish, very timely!! I *just* had a realization about that subject the other night:
my Pisces is intercepted in my 12th house (with my N.node singleton)......hmmmmm.....
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 4:41 PMhmmm indeed...
'all-ways' does sounds so piscean to me.... ;-)
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 11:58 AMI agree with Sherpa, it's personal. That's why I opened it up for others to share their own experiences and correspondances. So Sherpa, if you don't mind sharing, in your experience, where do you feel the planets and signs in the chakras?
I don't think there's a wrong answer, and I agree that regimenting it is not a good idea. Even within Vedic science, there are different theories about this and different correspondances. I also like to make it personal, but I gained so much insight through this understanding that I feel moved to share it with others who might find it insightful too.
The words on the screen are very Mercurial (Gemini & Virgo like that!), but the actual act of breathing with the chakras and feeling their energy is more like a cure for Mercurial people like me who may spend too much time in their head. It really helps me to energetically connect, to feel and embody these archetypal forces, rather than just talk about them.
That said, astrology is full of correspondances. It's how we tell the planets from each other. There is a level of it that's personal, and then there is a level that is universal. Each astrologer may do it differently, but we all assign the planets fields of influence that are specific to that planet. So while you may not like this particular set of correspondances, I don't understand how as an astrologer you can avoid correspondances entirely.
One interesting way to make the chakra zodiac personal is to map out where the planets are in your natal chart, using the above system as a backdrop. For example, using the sidereal zodiac, I would have the following chakra map:
ROOT - Rahu (Capricorn)
SEX - Moon (Pisces) & Jupiter (Sagittarius)
WILL
HEART - Venus (Taurus) & Saturn (Taurus)
THROAT - Earth (Gemini) & Sun (Gemini)
EYE - Mercury (Cancer), Mars (Cancer) & Ketu (Cancer)
Another interesting thing to look at is where the planets are exalted:
ROOT - Mars (Capricorn)
SEX - Venus (Pisces)
WILL - Sun (Aries)
HEART - Moon (Taurus) & Saturn (Libra)
THROAT - Mercury (Virgo)
EYE - Jupiter (Cancer)
Like anything, if it doesn't appeal to you, then you just don't need to use it!
I posted it for people who might find it inspiring, not for people who might find it limiting. If it feels limiting to you, please ignore it.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:25 PMDavid,
re: "I agree with Sherpa, it's personal. That's why I opened it up for others to share their own experiences and correspondances. So Sherpa, if you don't mind sharing, in your experience, where do you feel the planets and signs in the chakras? "
Thanks for asking, David.
If and when I apply my astrological understanding to my personal experience of the chakras, I can just about feel each chakra containing elements of all 12 signs, the planetary, lunar and solar influences. I don't find much sense or use in imposing rigid boundaries over living energies within my body/soul where complexity reigns (what looks like "chaos" often expreses a higher order of intelligence than what intellect can grasp).
And so, I do not really relate to these correspondences you list here. Assigning certain signs and planets to certain chakras seems more like a good exercise in mental gymnastics to me than anything organic to my actual experience.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:29 PM'mental gymnastics' is on the right track, but I consider myself more of a "mental contortionist" ;)
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 4:58 PMbut I consider myself more of a "mental contortionist" ;)
It's all about you once more
So Buffy the Snake died in January (Capricorn) she was without any heat ~
The power was turned off so her hot rock was off, how cold she had been
the power was off since Oct.
Tell us about how you let that happen. Now that is all about you
Poor dead snake, snake dies owner has crank snake has no heat
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 12:18 PMhi star fish!
This is how I understand it...
Cancer & Leo are the signs of the Sun & the Moon, which are the planets of self-awareness, individuality, and perception. The Sun is the left brain and the right eye, and the Moon is the right brain and the left eye. They are the two polarities of consciousness that unite to create the higher consciousness of the Crown chakra.
Cancer receives consciousness while Leo projects consciousness. Like the Chariot card in the tarot, Cancer helps us to navigate through life by being receptive to what's around us, by opening our perceptions and using our intuition.
For me, Jupiter in the sex chakra fits because it is big, expansive, creative, and holds a deeper wisdom. Pisces is the big ocean, the receptivity of the sex chakra that can unite us energetically with other people and help us to feel part of something larger than ourselves. Pisces is the Moon card in the tarot, which I relate to the female reproductive cycle. I personally feel there is a lot of wisdom inherent in our sex chakras, not too mention the creativity of Sagittarius!
Mars in the will chakra can still be about sex, when sex is about power. Scorpio as the exhale of the will chakra makes sense to me because it is the sign where we need to process and release the emotions we have around our power. Scorpio is always shedding its skin like a snake (and the Death card in tarot), pushing through desire and jealousy and anger to get at that bright gem of true inner power within.
Also, if you look at the whole pattern, it matches the pattern of the solar system. The Sun is at the center (with it's other half, the Moon), and Saturn is at the outer edge. The planets are in the same order as in the solar system, and the zodiac goes in a circle up and down the chakras, creating a cycle of energy in our bodies just like in the solar system.
Anyway, that's how I currently experience it, but who knows, it may change.
I think it's an enlightening exercise, whatever you come up with!
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 12:27 PMvery cool way of interpreting david. i see your pov - thanks. :-)
from my take on pisces and jupiter is like the third eye...to me anyway, it expands the experience, sees the 'whole' rather then it's parts...like scorpio would be more of a contraction into 'specifics'..now i'm rambling..
it would be interesting to see other's view on this as well......
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 12:43 PMWell, Jupiter is exalted in Cancer (3rd eye) so according to this system you can put Jupiter there too.
You can do breathwork where you move the energy of a planet from its chakra to its exaltation point. For example, breathing energy from the sex chakra to the third eye chakra "exalts" the wisdom of Jupiter.
Yes, I would like to hear other's thoughts/experiences as well!
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 1:39 PMRe: THE SEX CHAKRA:
This is really the Chakra of expanding into the world through the senses and the creative principle in general.
Jupiter is the planet that gives children, welath, all forms of worldly expansion. It is sometimes called the Sex Chakra because it correlates to the generative organs. I also use this sometimes for ease,, but i find it a lot easier to understand the principle if SEX is not used.. yet Swadisthana is a little hard to swallow.
So jupiter is how we expand in life - this chakra rules water,, which is related to the flow of our senses into the world to sustain our body,, the expansion of our self-contained, body nature into the world --
yes its lord is exalted in the third eye Chakra -- In Fact Jupiter is said to BE THE THIRD EYE
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 4:50 PM>Swadisthana is a little hard to swallow.
hehehe....!
well, in this context, jupiter being the 'expanding force' we can apply it to any chakra really.
expanding the root (grounding)
expanding the sex = orgasm can be very expansive, so is child birth.
power = power sure expands quickly, gotta watch that one
heart = i think we need more of this in this world
throat = voice, expansion of voice is so healing, most people's throat is constricted
third eye = psychic and seeing the 'whole' pic
expanding sahasrara (sp? probably poor spelling, it's been a while) expands one to the universe...merges you with it and with root chakra.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 4:57 PMof course star -- eah chakra can be expanded,, but the planets themselves,, Jupiter is the main planet of expansion, (although yes, each planet eventually expands us also )
I was only explaining why he rules this in this way -- he gives children, wealth, mysticism, etc. In general, gaind in life and the capacity to be increased through children, knowledge, education, etc is seen through Jupiter -- a weak jupiter and the person lack hope and optimism,, the abstract notion of increase..
but yes of course, there are no wrong ways of looking at personal inspirations like this.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 5:26 PMi did?
i did! :-)
sam, not to turn attention to myself, but im burning to know now what jupiter in capricorn would manifest/expand? i mean jupiter, the expansive energy in a strained sign like capricorn? i see cappy as more of an introverted sign.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 5:59 PMThat is a lot of inhaling
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 7:56 PMjupiter in capricorn is debilitated - which means he will expand materially (also think of capricorn for that) -- actually he is very good at that material expansion -- Jupiter in capricorn is good for earnin money, but the hope and optimism that connects us to teachings, etc, the highest quality of jupiter become mired in pessimism, etc.
but if your jupiter is in capricorn in the tropical zodiac, don't worry it is probably rockin off the charts strong in the sidereal zodiac in Sagittarius --
you do not seem to have Jupiter in capricorn with your expansive nature -- also your ascendant would be pisces not Aries -- Sun in Aquarius -- perhaps,, -
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Re: Ckakra Zodiac
Sat, September 2, 2006 - 9:19 AMthanks sam. most typical readings for my jupiter/cappy/mc issues don't ring true...at all, ever.
i'm dirt poor..hahaha! earning money? maybe if i was in the profession of collections! hahaha!
i think there is something to that sidereal zodiac in that respect. ;-)
but pisces acendant...i don't know about that one. sun in aquarius i can identify more with - i usually feel the mental restlessness of an air sign...but what about all that aries energy? maybe it's not arian after all? -
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Re: Ckakra Zodiac
Sat, September 2, 2006 - 9:21 AMdebilitated..ack!
that sounds so... handicap!
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Re: Ckakra Zodiac
Sat, September 2, 2006 - 10:34 AMbut aren't you a pisces in western??
that would make you one of those lucky people whose main sign does not change when you go from western to vedic!
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Re: Ckakra Zodiac
Sat, September 2, 2006 - 12:02 PMsherpa ~
theatre is sacred to me ~ one of my 'guides' is the *spirit* of Alla Nazimova, star of stage & silent screen ~ she was the lover of my late, great aunt Glesca Marshall & is now my life-companion ~ she just adores it when I talk about her.......
partners.nytimes.com/books/9...bow.html
love all-ways,
mem
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