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A few years ago i saw a docu about a girl who need a organ replaced (can't remember wich organ) and some young tough guy who died and his organ was given to her.
She survived and all was well, until she took a big liking to boxing all of a sudden, and that happend to be the the guy's passion. I have a astrological theory about it:
What if the guy had allot of scorpio or aries (or anything) in his chart, when a piece of his body became one with her's then a piece of his chart may became one with her as well, maybe even boosting her own chart.
What do you guys think about it?
She survived and all was well, until she took a big liking to boxing all of a sudden, and that happend to be the the guy's passion. I have a astrological theory about it:
What if the guy had allot of scorpio or aries (or anything) in his chart, when a piece of his body became one with her's then a piece of his chart may became one with her as well, maybe even boosting her own chart.
What do you guys think about it?
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 11:31 AM
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 12:10 PMI've read that Tibetan Buddhist doctors frown upon organ transplants because you take on the karma and the aura of the donor. This story seems to confirm the Tibetan Buddhist theory as I understand it. -
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Sat, October 17, 2009 - 12:32 PM"you take on the karma and the aura of the donor"
i............ dont know...................................
maybe all our organs are impregnated with oour astrological self, so its just inevitable that a little piece of it be transfered to someone else in an organ transplant.... BUT.....
taking on somebody elses KARMA??? i dont know............. -
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 12:58 PMthe concept of organ transplants and blood transfusions make me a bit uncomfortable; cell memory is a very real thing!
Cellular memory is the hypothesis that such things as memories, habits, interests, and tastes may somehow be stored in all the cells of human bodies, not only in the brain.
The suggestion is based largely around anecdotal evidence of organ transplants after which the recipient was reported to have developed new habits or memories.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_memory
the tenets were explored in a freaky supernatural way in Jessica Alba's movie, The Eye -
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 1:34 PMthere was a person who recieved a transplant and their body ended up getting cancer suddenly and thus the diseased spread through out the body. There wasn't any hisotry for the cancer and within months the cancer suddenly disapeared as if as quickly as it appeared . Cells regenerate plus any gene that has a something in common with each doner will develop whatever the selective gene has been programmed to do . For example place a human eyelet gene on a fly and the fly will make a fly eye not a human eye. As for behaviour if this happens it will probably subside after a few months but difficult to determine because a new habit can be developed within two months and what if the new passion of the sport is something the person may have like either way but had never considered doing it. Now if the person recived an organ from a musican and the person was tone deaf tone before and then suddenly within a month could play as if they had years of classical training or if the person was mentally challenged and suddenly could do calculus and write thesis on topics they were never exposed to then maybe the I would pee my pants.
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 1:43 PMnow for the non scientific experiencment of the astrology chart.
Take the natal chart progress everything for 90 days .
then take the moon mercury venus and mars for the day the transplant was done and replace those birth placement planets with the new planets and that would be the new chart. For the sun do a mid point between the suns. try that and see what happens.
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 5:36 PM
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 5:41 PMEndymion - I think what you have said is correct. I subscribe to that thought process. I believe that not only is our spiritual character attributed to our birth charts, but also our physical - and there seems to be very little written (although if anyone knows of a particular book/website that talks about how the physical is showed in a chart then please tell me) about how a chart can descibe a persons portrait in the aesthetic sense. I also realise that a person taking on anothers characteristics isn't just about a physical look and/or ability, but this also pertains a psychological componenet, but I think that you can't have one without the other. An organ from a donor into the recipient is in itself a physical act - boxing is a physical act - I expect that the donor contributed to the recipient in a way that was always 'meant to be'. I expect that if closely looked at, there would have been something in the chart that would suggest a different part of the character would become alive after being dormant from an added life long influence once discovered. I believe the donor and recipient had an 'exchange' (and I don't use the word 'exchange' in a light way - it doesn't seem to do it justice) visible in their charts, I have no idea what kind of aspect this would be, and I expect it would be determind by other aspects - it seems like the kind of thing that would only be seen in a chart by an expert that knows how to read a chart like a piece of poetry and can fill all the strands together.
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 12:57 AMThis probably adds absolutely nothing to the discussion but the first post reminds me of that horror movie "Body Parts" - the guy got some part (I couldn't tell you what, it's been years since I've seen it) and turned out it used to belong to some psycho maniac or something and he ended up acting like that man did.
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:11 AMfor a theory there must be a trend , and or hypothesis . Would it be a specific organ ?, demographics ? would the doner organ be from a living or a diseased person ? Relative or stranger? what made the organ compatable ? dates of the surgeries ? What questions would be asked of the client? how can the questions be asked that would be understandable for the different languages and cultures? What method of astrology would be used? -
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:32 AMhere is another unsusual idea . What if somehow the new interest in boxing came from like a post hypnotic suggestion that during sugery the medical team mentioned that the doner was into boxing.? The patient being under sedation somehow filed that into her memory ? don't know this is a guessing kind of topic .
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 2:37 PMWell i think a heart replacement is of a much bigger impact than say a liver.
That heart is born on a other date and time thant the rest of the body, yet it's still a part of that body, i wonder if the person will have schizo moments from time to time.
Tomorrow i'll try to dig up some stories like the one i heard.
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:35 PMSorry, but you guys are totally pissing me off. Did you even look at that video clip? I can't believe you are even babbling on the way you are if you did. And if you are, I say you are all totally FUCKED UP talking about this. -
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Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:44 PMHow shallow can you possibly get? An organ communicating an interest in boxing. How about organs stripped from a live person, probably with no anesthesia ~ ripped out for money and the person discarded in agony like a piece of used toilet paper. Tell me what the karma is there. Tell me about the astrology. Tell me about how we trade with a country that has people lined up for organ harvesting a week after a request from someone who has the cash for it. Tell me about that. I'd love to hear about the synastry there. -
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Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:00 PMWhat is wrong with you people? You want to talk about karma? Screw the high-minded cerebral bullshit about spirits and lost lives and loves and dharma and all the other lofty crap. Look right here right now for the karma. Look at banal, mercantile face of evil that masquerades as efficacy, compassion even, desperation that knows no limitations, cruelty beyond comprehension, a mentality that has no scruples about "eliminating" whatever is not according to plan. Tell me about the astrology of that. Tell me how to look at all the pie in the sky whimsy about 2012 being the dawn of the New Age of peace, love, dove and tell me where I can find that in any star map when tens of thousands of people are being used like spare parts for people who can pay for their vital organs? I'd love to hear about that. -
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:00 AM"What is wrong with you people? You want to talk about karma? Screw the high-minded cerebral bullshit about spirits and lost lives and loves and dharma and all the other lofty crap. Look right here right now for the karma. Look at banal, mercantile face of evil that masquerades as efficacy, compassion even, desperation that knows no limitations, cruelty beyond comprehension, a mentality that has no scruples about "eliminating" whatever is not according to plan. Tell me about the astrology of that. Tell me how to look at all the pie in the sky whimsy about 2012 being the dawn of the New Age of peace, love, dove and tell me where I can find that in any star map when tens of thousands of people are being used like spare parts for people who can pay for their vital organs? I'd love to hear about that."
I'm surprised at you. Normally you keep a cooler head, and you've kind of lost me with what just appears to me to be a hysterical rant. In all honesty, in this day and age online, it really isn't SMART to click on blind links posted by people you don't know on the internet, because they could lead you to ANYthing, especially something you don't want to see. Part of me (the cynical part) thinks you're just throwing an ego-driven hissyfit because no one appears to have looked at your link and replied; another part of me thinks you are speaking from a place of genuine concern for the people you speak about. I'm not sure. But even if it is the latter, your way of expressing yourself is really doing you or them no favors and really serves to make me not WANT to take the time to hear anything you have to say on it. And with all due respect to those suffering, this thread really isn't about that,plus, just because people aren't constantly talking about the ills in the world doesn't mean they don't care - no one can focus on those things all day, nor should they - it's a good way to end up bitter and/or go crazy. -
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:40 AMYou are an interesting one to say that, considering your track record, dear. That is to say, you surely know that you don't go over too well most of the times you post. Not trying to be inflammatory, but you have to know it is often true. And I have been one of your staunch defenders even when I have thought you have made a fool of yourself. But I couldn't give a rat's ass what you make of me, and I suspect you know that. Hell, I like people who don't like me. No problem.
Be surprised at me. What the fuck is the title of this thread? ORGAN DONORS AND ASTROLOGY. I am talking about about that, like, duh. And what I am saying is if you are going to talk seriously rather than in a silly, superficial manner about this topic, LOOK AT THIS. Oh, squirm if you want to and say I am throwing up shit you don't want to see. Fuck you and everyone else who wants to avert their eyes to this. Do the American thing and pay no attention to what is happening because you want to be all comfy in your ignorance and pretend that it is not your karma. Deal with it. It is part of our world. It is a part of the organ donor market. It is real and here and our human problem.
Oh, right, it is a "blind link." It is one link, but not the only link. I have been through many links, including the entire Canadian expose touched on in that link. The Canadian government determined that this is fucking real. So, we have a bunch of people from all over the world going to China to get organ transplants from political prisoners, and they know what they are doing. And this has no karmic repercussions? Shit. If I have to hear that some guy who liked boxing communicated that interest to a person who got an organ from him. it seems to me perfectly logical to ask what sort of influence a tortured prisoner's organ might have on a person who shopped for that with eyes wide open. What is going to be communicated there? And if you are going to drag karma and astrology into this mix, I think it makes sense for me to ask where that shows up in a chart.
So, do you want to argue with me some more? Happy to oblige. -
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Re: Organ donors and astrology.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:43 AMOh, yeah, if you doubt my sincerity, just hang around.
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