Tribe.net. Local Connections Laura http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#04899ccf-2e38-4ac0-a50f-7feda64f8de7 2007-10-02T17:10:07Z 2007-10-02T17:10:07Z

Great thread! The completed T-square seems to be one factor-- I actually have three T-squares, and two of them are missing their fourth points in early and late Virgo. I'm a Pisces sun with strong Aquarian planets and house/aspect influences, so these "fated" encounters with Virgos usually go down in loud, dish-breaking flames, lol! Another factor for me is Saturn contacts in synastry. I'm currently (still) dealing with a relationship in which my Gemini Saturn is exactly conjunct his natal Sun, and his strong Capricorn Saturn is sitting directly on my Descendant. Nodal contacts count, too...in this case, we have serious south node contacts. His Sun on mine, my Venus and Jupiter on his, for a start. Supposedly, south node contacts represent past-life issues, but I'm not sure whether I believe that or not (or whether it even really matters, for any practical purpose.) So, this is a relationship that feels heavy, important, serious, and fated; for a Gemini man and an independent Pisces woman, it's a seriously messed-up situation!! After three years of avoidance, reluctance, and mutable hide-and-seek on both our parts, we're still...what's the word?...intense, cautious, befuddled friends.

Laura 2007-10-02T17:10:07Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#d19968bb-7f14-41d1-a7de-42eec3727883 2007-10-02T14:00:32Z 2007-10-02T14:00:32Z

maybe the fact that you're attracted to people born on certain dates could be explained through numerology,but don't ask me how,cuz I wouldn't know what explanation to give....All I know is that my best friends and all the guys I've liked were born under "4 energy"-meaning their days of birth could be reduced to the number 4(4th of June,22nd of July,22nd of December,4th of October,13th of November etc.)

$item.owner.firstName 2007-10-02T14:00:32Z John http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#f8dc5315-dceb-4dc7-80ad-f2ca016dde9a 2007-10-02T09:34:24Z 2007-10-02T09:34:24Z

http://www.cardsofillumination.com/history1.html http://www.metasymbology.com/ You're technically the 5 of spades in this set up. Very interesting you have a connection with people born on the day before and after you. I had a similar experience with Dec. 31, a Joker, and me Jan 1. The first day we met there was an instant, "Have I met you in another life before?" feeling. That's how I got into Cartomancy...I actually saw it before on CafeAstrology but didn't really Get Into it after my path with her was unfortunately terminated by vile outside sources. She herself though was stuck on someone else anyhow...so... I wouldn't exactly believe that spread though. Time is arbitrary and I have yet to see a reason why 7 cards stand out from the rest. 8 diamonds, King of Spades, Jack of Heats, Ace of Clubs and a few others. I could join the Magi...but I already know I am one. I do not need confirmation of talents to know what I'm capable of. Solving the mystery of life I think does have something to do with the cards though. Hence why I keep playing the stupid game. =)

John 2007-10-02T09:34:24Z Coors http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#068d05aa-2269-476b-9f5e-c9b4a3f387dc 2007-09-30T18:17:06Z 2007-09-30T18:17:06Z

Chris - it looks like yes you do have a T square with your moon, merc and Jupiter and yes a planet in Cancer would make the 4th leg of the T square...but remmeber it doesn't have to be someone with a sun in cancer...it could be any planet, point, or ascendant that seems to be between 7 and 15 degrees or so...

Coors 2007-09-30T18:17:06Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#d2cca9af-ed34-4d89-a987-50498209b2eb 2007-09-30T02:19:56Z 2007-09-30T02:19:56Z

iiiiinteresting. so in my case someone with their sun in cancer could act as the 4th point and alleviate some tension? honestly, i don't have many, if at all any cancers close to me in my life. someone once told me that i wouldnt attract cancer in my chart, or that it would be a difficult combination...i dont remember its been so long ago, so i dont know what they were talking about. weird. also those houses which are the point to my opposition are intercepted. by maybe a few degrees...maybe this has something to do with it... thanks for your insight!

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-30T02:19:56Z Seaoglass http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#2acaffac-a869-4742-9d66-ca4202461fa0 2007-09-30T01:18:09Z 2007-09-30T01:18:09Z

Cool post. My reoccuring dates are August 6, September 19, March 13, and Dec 9-13. My birthdate is May 13th. This is very interesting as I've always notice a karmic pattern and am sure there is some logical explanation. I believe August 6 is conj. my black moon lilith, September 19 is in my 7th House, March 13 in my 1st house and Dec 9-13 is conj. my MC.

Seaoglass 2007-09-30T01:18:09Z Coors http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#08b53f3e-813f-4fda-a86a-c38a59157813 2007-09-29T16:39:34Z 2007-09-29T16:39:34Z

The fourth point turns a T- square (3 pts) into a Grand Cross....2 oppositions and 2 squares.... For example...I have my sun at 17 Cap, Saturn at 15 Cancer and Pluto at almost 10 degrees Libra. I tend to attract people who have planets between 9 and 19 degrees Aries...I never understood why until I realised they made a Grand Cross.... In theory if you have a T square having a planet make it a Grand cross can allow you to release the unbalanced tension of the T square....

Coors 2007-09-29T16:39:34Z jacqueline http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#ee821ada-b776-49f6-bce6-893b1cfb59ea 2007-09-29T09:21:05Z 2007-09-29T09:21:05Z

hmm most of the people i connect well or are close to are capricorn or virgo moons (which are in most of the birthdates i mentioned) which activates the 1st/2nd houses (virgo) or the 5th house. for some reason unknown, these relationships are all very transformative. perhaps it's the quincux relationship that it makes to my aries moon..

jacqueline 2007-09-29T09:21:05Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#d6955199-a49c-436a-93a7-e2a42b710fff 2007-09-29T01:54:23Z 2007-09-29T01:54:23Z

nope.. i'm cap sun & leo moon with libra rising.

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-29T01:54:23Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#f8adcf4a-8b6f-4183-9e9b-c68eda276cc7 2007-09-29T01:49:27Z 2007-09-29T01:49:27Z

Is it a fellow scorpio bond?

Bea 2007-09-29T01:49:27Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#eb8126e8-bc7a-435c-a706-cb96b0261b4f 2007-09-29T01:39:51Z 2007-09-29T01:39:51Z

november 5th is my mysterious day. i have 3 past boyfriends & 2 close friends with this b-day. hmm... scorpio sun at 14 degrees. it's in the my second house, nothing to do with a t-sqaure, sun/moon midpt is in scorpio but around 9 degrees so too far away (but likely that some of their other planets will be conjuncting this pt), the only thing that pops out is that it is sextile north node & trine south node.

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-29T01:39:51Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#b2d16694-ae25-4f7a-87e3-dbc59ebe084a 2007-09-28T22:08:02Z 2007-09-28T22:08:02Z

this is very interesting, because i just thought i might have a t-square, but im not sure. if its the case it points to the 11th house with jupiter in capricorn. which is exactly what i attract, and specifically the one love of my life being an aquarius capricorn sagittarius with a stellium in capricorn. a t square is an opposition with a square to that opposition right? what do you mean by 4th point?

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-28T22:08:02Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#1a6444aa-89fb-4957-9f46-666d12fe5243 2007-09-28T19:03:34Z 2007-09-28T19:03:34Z

That's a good idea. I've seen that book at the Library, I could go make copies of the dates for the people I know.

Bea 2007-09-28T19:03:34Z Peggy http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#003ae452-c451-49fb-b005-f1cacdcc0a75 2007-09-28T16:24:26Z 2007-09-28T16:24:26Z

My daughters also tend to have relationships with people with only a few specific birthdays we Have a huge old book called "The Secret Language of Birthdays " by Gary Goldschneider and Joost Elffers , "Combining astrology, numerology, and pure psychic intuition, The Secret Language of Birthdays is a wholly unique compilation that reveals one's strengths, weaknesses, and major issues while providing practical advice on spiritual guidance. It is a must have for every library and anyone even remotely interested in the dynamics of personality." -Amazon.com description We call it the "Bingo" book because when people read their day they often yell " bingo " thats me! Any way I think it likely that reading the entries for the birthdays you mention could give you a lot of the information you seek. This particular book has been a big help to us in dealing with people and ferreting out mysteries of our relationships.

Peggy 2007-09-28T16:24:26Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#c477fab6-ff98-4fdd-b4a8-e761a27cea7c 2007-09-28T15:26:09Z 2007-09-28T15:25:39Z

Good point.

Bea 2007-09-28T15:25:39Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#1c5d1980-2267-4455-b888-ca5fa1b9fe13 2007-09-28T15:25:10Z 2007-09-28T15:25:10Z

I don't have any T-squares. The whole bottom part of my chart (houses 1-6) is empty. So that would possibly explain the attraction to/of the Cancers and Leos since I am lacking that in my chart.

Bea 2007-09-28T15:25:10Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#1956b25a-f7b5-48dc-9ff0-bb5dc3045d70 2007-09-28T15:19:54Z 2007-09-28T15:19:54Z

The weird thing is it will be the same date of the month, but on different years. So the planets won't be the same even if the dates are the same. But that would be an interesting thing to try.

Bea 2007-09-28T15:19:54Z Coors http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#4a18a717-5aa2-472a-9f0d-457c53ce1b56 2007-09-28T11:22:40Z 2007-09-28T11:22:40Z

Another idea Bea - do you have any T squares in your chart? I have always found I attracted people (whether I wanted to or not) who have planets that fill in the 4th point of my T square......

Coors 2007-09-28T11:22:40Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#f976f8b7-cc45-4452-9b36-9e023bb2d313 2007-09-28T11:03:21Z 2007-09-28T11:03:21Z

maybe it's them who have the karmic ties to your birthdate rather than the other way around. kaye

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-28T11:03:21Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#10963cbc-b419-4e8b-b279-3224109ca032 2007-09-28T08:33:17Z 2007-09-28T08:33:17Z

Bea Have you tried plotting the degree of each Sign that these birthdays fall in? And then looking to see what strong aspects these make to planets or angles in your own charts? Are these degree clusters n aspect to each other? - say, making sqaures or trinwsto each other? You might then find that other important planets might also be falling within these degree clusters - or then again, perhaps not. If there are not major aspects in evidence, then maybe it might be revelaing to see if any of these degree clusters fall at the exact point that lies between your Sun and your Moon - in other words, your Sun-Moon midpoint. If not, then between the Ascendant or the Midheaven in your chart, or Sun/Ascendant, Moon/Ascendant or whatever. Another planet you might like to include within these pairs could be Venus.

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-28T08:33:17Z $item.owner.firstName http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#57e06c73-a62f-416a-9527-91921563f944 2007-09-28T07:10:59Z 2007-09-28T07:10:59Z

Same here Bea.... I tend to attract alot of people born around certian times also. And even in the signs that arn't supposed to go with mine... I meet alot of people I can't stand born on June 25th, Im the 23rd.... Then I have a friend born on each one of these dates... 2 on Aug. 8th, 3 on Nov. 8th, and 2 on Feb. 8th..... They all tend to have Venus in a Fixed sign also... since I got Venus in a fixed sign also. Though I wonder how the numbers have effects on certian things..... Dec 13th seems to be another one of them hot spots too.

$item.owner.firstName 2007-09-28T07:10:59Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#52fe0099-f3df-4be8-8e05-78aac19fcff2 2007-09-28T06:20:33Z 2007-09-28T06:20:33Z

Yah I have noticed that a lot of these people are kind of my opposite, so I guess that means we were meant to learn from each other. That is always a plus :) It's weird because I am a Pisces, and my boss for 6 years was a Leo and my current boss is a Leo (but he was at the end of July and she was in later August). Also, my on again off again love interest for the past 3 years is a Leo. I actually did learn a lot of my social skills from work and how to be more outgoing, and I met the Leo boy at work, working for a Leo. crazyness.

Bea 2007-09-28T06:20:33Z deb http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#9b09d5b5-0e52-4d48-8608-b566ffddfe06 2007-09-28T04:18:43Z 2007-09-28T04:18:43Z

Good topic, Bea! Probably everyone has noticed a pattern in their relationships based soley on the fact that important people in their life were born around the same dates, whether there were multiple clusters, or just a single focused area. If you look at the houses affected there may be a need to develop the strengths of this house. There may be a "blind spot" that these people help to illuminate by having their "light," (sun), in the house that needs to be developed to find an objective perspective to the underlying themes. Examples of house themes that others can help you identify and develop: 1st house: self-confidence, developing a good way to present oneself to the world effectively, positive impact on your environment, responsibility for one's actions, mental focus 2nd house: self-worth, personal value system, developing awareness of one's sensual needs to feel secure and loved and seeking ways to fulfill these needs in a healthy way. A lover or friend can really help here! 3rd house: developing effective communication skills, development of physical agility and dexterity such as a coach,, broadening the understanding, addressing any tendency to be either too hesitant or awkard in communicating, or too rash or hasty speech or actions such as speeding. 4th house: awareness of the soul, development of a sense of groundedness, understanding and deepening "roots" in your family or in your own emotional body, unblocking emotional "damns" to learn how to let emotions flow in a healthy and nurturing way 5th house: friendship, playfulness, basic romantic expression, learning how to "flirt" effectively, finding the inner child, relating to children, overcoming pride or conceit, healthy expression of the ego 6th house: being mentored in basic practical usefulness, effectiveness in effort, learning efficiency, developing healthy habits and hygeine, learning the difference between servitude and service, overcoming any tendency to be "used" and developing a sense of pride in accomplishments 7th house: identifying and owning your own needs for a healthy intimate relationship, fairness in business, understanding and developing equality in partnerships, developing a sense of "boundaries" and learning how to maintain them 8th house: understanding power in all its uses, understanding death, rebirth, and transformation, development of money handling skill, understanding, evaluating, and handling your partner's resources, learning how to understand and appreciate the value of your partner, overcoming fear of "the dark," exploring the mysteries of sex from the inner realm, deepening one's own pyschology, purging the life of unhealthy or outworn attachments 9th house: exploring life, religion, the psychic realm and inner dimensions of the mind, developing a personal ethical code or philosophy, exploring, appreciating, and understanding other cultures and ethnicities, overcoming pride of the mind 10th house: becoming aware of the impact of one's actions on others, awareness of one's highest potential, becoming aware of one's reputation, developing ambition, repairing the damaged ego from failed attempts at success, developing resolve to succeed and a sense of purpose 11th house: learning how to pursue one's dreams by formulating a plan to achieve success in a way that transcends personal gratification and embraces the "bigger picture," developing networking skills, learning how to socialize in the broadest sense such as attending parties, events, dances, fund-raisers, etc,... 12th house: developing awareness of the unattended "skeletons in the closet" and facing them squarely and fearlessly, tapping into unused potential and neglected or hidden talents, learning how to overcome crippling memories, shame, or irrational fears, developing compassion

deb 2007-09-28T04:18:43Z jacqueline http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#03a4018a-7a3b-4130-a1ee-10f1321b966a 2007-09-28T04:12:52Z 2007-09-28T04:12:52Z

the dates that keep appearing in mine are feb 24 & 25, oct 25 & 27, sept 21 & 25.. my birthday is june 16.. ah well, I enjoy all their company, good AND bad times!

jacqueline 2007-09-28T04:12:52Z your mom http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#a24b7ffc-d7c5-47ad-bdb7-b45e7ff81aca 2007-09-28T03:49:13Z 2007-09-28T03:49:13Z

He he. That, or both of us are crazy. =D

your mom 2007-09-28T03:49:13Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#bfa36869-2246-446f-a7cf-d28574db841e 2007-09-28T03:35:41Z 2007-09-28T03:35:41Z

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one so that proves I'm not just crazy :)

Bea 2007-09-28T03:35:41Z your mom http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#0514b138-edb1-43fa-8b62-b7539461dfa3 2007-09-28T03:16:01Z 2007-09-28T03:16:01Z

No idea...but I have the same issue. All of my close, best friends, have been born on October 10th, and all Aries that have ended up as close friends or even lovers have been born around March 24th to the 30th. Also, Taurus born in early April. Maybe it has something to do with the specific decans of these sun signs that you're so attracted to them...

your mom 2007-09-28T03:16:01Z Bea http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/384507a8-12d2-45f9-a34d-7c731400d924#d1f39b6e-0a39-4080-88b9-afa60477c858 2007-09-28T03:13:09Z 2007-09-28T03:13:09Z

I am a Pisces Born March 5th Can anyone tell me why I may be drawn to people with these birthdays? These are all in different years, but the same dates of the month. April 27 (one serious romantic relationship and one really long friendship) July 24-31 (2 room mates, 1 boss (for 6 years), and one serious romantic relationship) March 4-6, March 15 (3 friends with my birthday, 1 with the day after mine, 1 with the day before, and 1 romantic relationship with march 15th and 1 fling with march 15th) June 26-19 (2 romantic interests, 2 romantic relationships (brief)) Oct 9-14th (one long friendship and 1 romantic relationship with Oct 14, and one long friendship with Oct 9th, and one brief romantic relationship with Oct 10, 1 teacher Oct 9th or 10th that taught me reiki and massage) Feb 25,26 (2 up and down long friendships)

Bea 2007-09-28T03:13:09Z