Scorpio Sun ~ play, happiness, joy, expression. LOL! I'm sorry, but that is just too funny.

Aminah - and I remember you asking about your via combusta planets. I guess that doesn't help!

Myzil

I would consider Pluto and Mercury are the key planets in my chart, Uranus also as its a singleton is opposite my sun and mercury and disposits my Moon.

I notice that you also have an 8H Mercury Mercury which is opposition Uranus. Do you think this describes you well at all? Bearing in mind that Mercury/Uranus is involved in your T-Square.
I notice you mention Pluto being powerful, whilst I don't doubt that for a moment, I'd wonder whether Mars is equally powerful in your chart, after all it IS the 'old' chart ruler of your chart.

Like you, Lady Saber, I have a strong Mars in dignity in the 10th (mine Aries, yours Scorpio). I think we tend to be strong, fiery, independent women. We also have a detrimented Venus conjunct Mars. I'm not sure how your Scorpio Venus works for you, but I've heard that Venus in Aries feel they are "special" and require an independence from others unless they feel they've accomplished something. I don't know if I think I'm special, but I don't feel I've accomplished what I want out of life yet. My Mars has a trine to Neptune, which is supposed to give a certain mystique and a deep emotional understanding of people. It can confer extreme esthetic, emotional, and spiritual refinement. I haven't gotten to that point yet. Mars in dignity in the 10th indicates someone who has the strength and the drive to achieve success. The conjunction to Venus makes me sacrifice my love life for my goals, I think. I tend to deny any romantic love, and sort of like to deprive myself of things in general, I've noticed. Like sometimes I will not eat, or watch TV or listen to music for many days... I haven't figured out this deprivation chamber thing I do, and it may be related to the square to Jupiter, but it's easy for me to do stuff like that. I am also a vegan, so I deprive myself of certain food types. Most specifically, I may be an anomaly in that I am non-sexual, but have very sexual aspects and am considered attractive and attracted to the opposite sex.

can i bend the rules and say chiron?! It's the part of my chart I feel most strongly, and in a negative way. If that's not allowed, then i'm actually not too sure, although i'll hazard a guess at the 'sun'.

hopefully that changes because remember 1981 rocks ;)

I was unaware of this Pullen thing, so I checked it out. No surprise that Mercury is the dominant planet, and not much of a surprise that the Sun is next, but what did surprise me was that Neptune, of all planets, would be the third most influential in my chart. Neptune?

As for signs, I was somewhat surprised by this order ~ Leo, Pisces, Virgo. It is true, though, that Pisces is barely more significant than Virgo, but I would have figured that the Virgoan influence is head and shoulders beyond the Piscean influence, but apparently not.

Interesting.

I'm not sure this is even important...I think every planet has its relevance in certain issues, and should not be tossed aside just because it's not on the "my chart's most influential planets" list...

Besides, like others have mentioned, it's all relative. Different astrologers have different methods for finding your most important planet..according to astro.com, I should take Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune as my most important planets, since Neptune and Saturn are tightly conjunct one another, and also my final dispositors, while Mercury and Jupiter are the most influential, "because" Jupiter tightly conjuncts my Moon and Mars, all in 0 degree Gemini, while in the 9th house.

Another site doesn't even mention these, in a free natal report I had made. They list Black Moon Lilith as my number one influence, because it is in the 1st house, and trines my Moon(apparently, aspects to the luminaries make a planet shoot up in rank quite a bit), while listing Venus my second influence, due to its conjunction to the DC, and the Sun, also due to its conjunction to the DC.

And my opinion on the whole matter is that whichever planet holds more "stock" in my natal chart is pretty irrelevant to a useful, beneficial application of astrology on my life-as a whole, as well as in day to day matters. It only helps in getting the general "wiring" of a person's psychological make-up. So, in that virtue, I'd have to name Mercury and Neptune my greatest influences and my overall energy-conformation.

signs, not planets for the second one.

I was way off........ It was Venus (106.0) way far ahead then followed by Mercury (57.5), Sun (55.0) and Neptune (53.5).

Looked at your chart, f0gd0g, and I'd say the Sun is your strongest planet: it's in his sign, Leo, and sits at a comfortable midpoint between Saturn and Uranus.

Lady Saber,

Planetary Strength (via Astro 123 – again, I don’t agree with all of these, esp. Saturn and the Sun)
PLUTO 13.7%
SUN 13.4%
URANUS 12.7%
MOON 12.5%
MARS 12.3%
NEPTUNE 9.4%
MERCURY 8.8%
SATURN 7.6%
VENUS 7.0%
JUPITER 2.7%

Lilly’s points:
(strongest) MARS: 19
SATURN: 16
MERCURY: 11
VENUS: 10
JUPITER: 6
SUN: -5
(weakest) MOON: -6

Note: Moon is conjunct the fixed star Vega
Mercury and Saturn are in mutual reception, as are Venus and Pluto

Essential Dignity
Peregrine – SUN, JUPITER, SATURN
Detriment – MOON, VENUS
Fall – SUN
Domicile - MARS
Trip - MARS
Term - MERCURY
Face - VENUS

In the Via Combusta – SUN, MERCURY, MARS
Combust the Sun - MERCURY
In House of its Planetary Joy - SUN

Arabic Parts:
17 ARI 38 P of ILLNESS
14 LIB 30 P/DEATH-trad.
05 SCO 45 P of MARRIAGE
07 CPR 05 P of FATALITY
03 VIR 35 Point of DEATH

Sign
SCO 24.0%
LIB 22.4%
AQU 12.6%
CPR 9.3%
VIR 6.8%
SAG 6.1%
LEO 5.4%
CAN 3.6%
ARI 3.5%
GEM 2.5%
TAU 2.0%
PIS 1.7%

House
9 (21.2%)
8 (17.9%)
10 (15.2%)
1 (12.6%)
7 (8.1%)
11 (7.9%)
6 (5.1%)
3 (3.5%)
5 (2.5%)
12 (2.2%)
4 (2.0%)
2 (1.7%)

Air 37.6%
Water 29.3%
Earth 18.1%
Fire 15.0%

Fixed 44.0%
Cardinal 38.8%
Mutable 17.2%

Masculine 52.60%
Feminine 47.40%

That is a very interesting article, Hank!

It made me think a lot about my sun which is in H10 square to neptune (sun is pisces), on the SNode, in a grand water (actually at what might be the focal point of a grand water kite) trine with moon and uranus, opposite saturn, on the SNode ... basically lots of strength and weakness all at once.
Your article makes me look again at saturn which is almost exactly square my ascendant, retrograde, and loosely opposite sun and conjunct Nnode

Your discussion brings up some interesting questions. Could there be a slight difference in some cases between the strongest planet and the most influential planet?
There also might be slightly different meanings between the planet with the potential to have the most impressive moments of strength and the planet which is overall the most consistently reliable and grounding/stable/supporting in a person's life. The planets with potential for both great strength and weakness might reach the highest heights of strengthbut still - on average over time - not be the strongest over all.

It depends a little on how you look at it and what one means when they say "strongest planet in your chart" I think.

I have a question - what about planets that are aspecting the majority of a chart in a symmetric pattern. I noticed that you mentioned the planets that are over 60 degrees away from others as being strong, do you think planets that land close to many overlapping midpoints might similarly be strong or not really?

I'm wondering if this would be a case of increased influence but not necessarily increased strength - but that is assuming that there is a difference between the meaning of the two.


And - how would we define strength?
From your article I got the idea of strength meaning possibly that in a competition between influences the stronger planet would win. But now strength and influence seem to have the same meaning again.

I definitely don't have it figured out but your article brings up a lot to think about!
Thanks for your contribution!