October 9 Moon Bombing

topic posted Mon, September 14, 2009 - 1:41 AM by 
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Is this really a good idea?

www.nasa.gov/mission_pag...w/index.html

<The LCROSS shepherding spacecraft and the Atlas V’s Centaur upper stage rocket executed a fly-by of the moon on June 23, 2009 (LCROSS lunar swingby video stream coverage) and entered into an elongated Earth orbit to position LCROSS for impact on a lunar pole. On final approach, the shepherding spacecraft and Centaur will separate. The Centaur will act as a heavy impactor to create a debris plume that will rise above the lunar surface. Projected impact at the lunar South Pole is currently: Oct 9, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. PDT. Following four minutes behind, the shepherding spacecraft will fly through the debris plume, collecting and relaying data back to Earth before impacting the lunar surface and creating a second debris plume. >

It is already up there ready to create an "impact." Gotta love these words.
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  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Mon, September 14, 2009 - 1:47 AM
    Better the moon than Pakistan or some other global atrocity. I just think old guys who are losing their potency like to shoot rockets at things...
    • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

      Mon, September 14, 2009 - 1:42 PM
      "I just think old guys who are losing their potency like to shoot rockets at things... "

      Does anyone think, that this could be a very bad idea?
      Screwin with a mass that has direct effect on our tides, weather... what if they cause the moon to lose its remaining atmosphere, alter it's orbit by .ooooo7 or some crazy **t?! Call me a paranoid. Keeps me alert.
      • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

        Mon, September 14, 2009 - 2:57 PM
        Not exactly wild about "debris" shooting off the moon, for that matter. Where is it going to go, and where's it going to wind up? And that is just a "minor" matter.
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Mon, September 14, 2009 - 5:45 PM
          What gets me is the money it's going to cost to figure out the moon has some water on it or something. Do we have to do this when most of the country can't even afford to pay attention? ¡Aye Carumba!
      • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

        Mon, September 14, 2009 - 7:47 PM
        "Does anyone think, that this could be a very bad idea?
        Screwin with a mass that has direct effect on our tides, weather"

        We've been blowing shit up on this planet for a long time now... and look around... everything's just fine.
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:25 AM
          "We've been blowing shit up on this planet for a long time now... and look around... everything's just fine. "

          This must be sarcasm.

          "everything's just fine" ?!? in spite of our "blowing shit up".

          Don't think so.

          Almost NOTHING is just fine (economy, health, culture) because of the military industrial culture, which is all geared toward "blowing shit up" or selling weapons to others for the same purpose.
    • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

      Wed, October 7, 2009 - 10:58 PM
      Ha ha! that is funny Yoda.

      "old guys who are losing their potency like to shoot rockets at things... "


      .....and possibly the source of motivation for creating rockets in the first place...
  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Tue, September 15, 2009 - 1:37 AM
    I don't really like this moon bombing for water nonsense. For one thing, I think we should demonstrate a lot more personal and social responsibility before we start any space colonization escapades where moon water would even matter. However, I am fond of the idea of sending corporate and other greedy, power-mad types to Mars if that means that they will leave the rest of us alone. I have had this little fantasy about "Trump Mars" decorated by Martha Stewart and housing the all the Illuminati and their associates....
  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Tue, September 15, 2009 - 5:30 AM
    This news article s actually making me feel sad. =(

    ----

    Anyway, a quote:

    “If they keep crashing stuff into the moon, the moon's gonna get pissed off, and the tides'll change, and all the women'll start PMS-ing together. Then you guys are going to f-cking regret it.” - Tori Amos
    • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

      Tue, September 15, 2009 - 8:26 AM
      Why can't mad scientists explore their own selves for once.
      "Find the water in your own psyches, you idiots!"
      Bombing the Moon for water - that's symbolic behavior, that is.
  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:40 AM
    I checked the transneptunian objects besides Pluto for evolutionary intensified experiences

    only the big ones that include:
    Eris,Makemake,Haumea - dwarf planets along with Pluto and Ceres

    Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion - dwarf planet candidates


    Eris in 21'31 Aries
    sextile Moon - '11 separating

    Sedna in 21'45 Taurus R
    square Neptune - 2'06 applying
    sextile Uranus - 2'01 applying
    sextile Varuna - '07 separating
    sextile MC - 2'57 applying
    semisextile Moon - '03 applying
    contraparallel Sun- '09 applying
    contraparallel Ceres - '58 applying
    contraparallel Asc - '27 separating

    Moon,Eris,and Sedna are in 12th harmonic triangle because Moon sextiles Eris,and Sedna semisextiles both

    The Moon/Eris midpoint is in 21'37 Taurus

    Therefore, Sedna is conjunct Moon/Eris midpoint with 8 minutes of arc

    talk about "far out" controversy involving the Moon!

    wonder if it could lead to some disaster that involves the influence of great bodies of water with both Sedna and Varuna being objects named after deities that rules the oceans. they were also linked to death. Varuna judged souls in Indian mythology, and Sedna ruled the Inuit Underworld.

    there is more

    Haumea in 16'00 Libra
    conjunct Sun with 17 minutes of arc separating
    conjunct Asc with 1'55 orb separating
    trine Jupiter with 1'10 orb applying
    square MC with 2'47 orb separating
    contraparallel Pluto - '17 applying


    Haumea is a transneptunian dwarf planet named after the Hawaiian fertility/creation goddess whose children born from fragments from her body. The actual transneptunian object has fragments from its body that became its moons as well as solar-orbiting transneptunian objects. It used to be big as Pluto, but it suffered a collision which resulted in much of its ice layer broken off.
    It's very unique in that it's an extremely rapid spinning object, looking like a football that's been kicked. That due to the violent collision from another large transneptunian object.


    Quaoar in 18'31 Sagittarius
    sextile Sun - 2'12 applying
    sextile Asc - '35 applying
    sextile Jupiter - 1'19 separating
    quincunx MC - '19 separating

    Quaoar is named after the Native American creation deity of the Tongva tribe in California


    Varuna in 21'53 Cancer
    trine Uranus - 1'53 applying
    square Eris - '22 separating
    sextile Sedna - '07 separating
    sextile Venus - 1'27 separating
    contraparallel Moon - '26 applying


    Varuna is named after the Indian God of the Oceans. I mentioned that earlier.

    It's interesting that Sun is in applying parallel to Sedna,and Moon is an applying contraparallel to Varuna. Both are ocean deities with connections to the dead.


    Orcus in 1'32 Virgo
    trine Pluto - '40 applying
    semisquare Sun - '13 applying
    contraparallel Sedna - '35 applying

    Orcus is named after the Etruscan God of the Underworld who punished people who broke their oaths.


    I also checked direct midpoint pictures involving Eris and Sedna in Solar Fire.
    direct midpoints can be just as important as straight up major aspects.

    Sedna
    conjunct Moon/Eris - '08 separating
    conjunct Uranus/MC - '28 separating

    Eris
    conjunct Moon/Chiron - '04 separating
    oppose Sun/Ceres - '54 applying

    MC
    conjunct Sun/Eris - '06 applying
    conjunct Asc/Eris - '55 applying

    Uranus conjunct Node/Eris - '20 applying

    Mars oppose Node - '10
    conjunct Mercury/Sedna - '53 separating

    Node
    conjunct Neptune/Pluto - '53 applying

    Venus
    oppose Uranus - '33 applying
    oppose Neptune/Eris - '31 separating
    oppose Node/Sedna - '53 applying


    a lot of Eris direct midpoints

    highly controversial indeed!
    a lot of crap being stirred up
    a lot of debate over it.

  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:09 PM
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
    • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

      Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:11 PM
      Maybe our horoscope will be changed after all, by default.
      • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

        Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:30 PM
        I've just realised that this is right on the button for my T Saturn conjunct N Pluto AND square N Moon...does this mean I might get to skip the Moon part? ;)
        (Mild unease changes to grave concern haha)
        Philip
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:45 PM
          YES! And, maybe it will bugger up my moon conjunct saturn, speeed the whole thing up in some way *yay*! On a more serious note though (actually, who knows, maybe this wil change aspects in our chart - ANYTHING is possible I believe, and the optimist and negative in me agree!) this whole thing makes me feel a little sad. How would we feel if life forms on other planets decided to experiment with us? Sounds flippant, but we shouldn't be so arrogant to assume it could never happen - we simply just don't know. The whole conversation of life forms on other planets is subjective, and comes down to personal belief systems, which are again, subjective. My virgo moon is unhappy about this. Details are good, but not at the expense of something that is based firmly in curiosity. There's enough to be curious about on this earth..........
  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:07 PM
    I will hold a little E-vent for three days, in case anyone is interested.

    vedicastrologycenter.net/blog/...-moon/
    • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

      Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:37 PM
      It does seem to be an incredibly destructive thing to do - Captain Kirk and his ilk should look in he mirror, here will be a Borg, or a Kilingon, or a dalek, staring right back at him. Explore strange new worlds (ok, not so strange, let's foul our own nest a little further aflield instead then)- and bomb them.
      • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

        Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:55 PM
        The moon keeps so many important things in a healthy balance here on Earth, you'd think intelligent scientists wouldn't want to mess around with it too much. Decreasing its mass by any small percentage, or affecting its orbit in any small way, may wreak havoc with our delicate balance of nature here on Earth. I know the Russians shot rockets into it during the space race, but it seems we have bigger problems here on Earth and out in space to explore before we see if there's water on the moon. Whether or not there's water on the moon won't end food shortages or stop gang violence or prevent organized religions from murdering people with impunity.

        Yoda rant ends here...
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Wed, October 7, 2009 - 4:16 PM
          I think that these guys are seriously looking toward expanding out into habitable or semi-habitable areas in the solar system. I think we need to get our shit together before we go spreading ourselves around. But the density of the population on this planet is creating an impetus to find more space. It is getting crowded, and resources are obviously being depleted rapidly. Same old human story ~ use it up and move on.
  • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

    Fri, October 9, 2009 - 3:54 AM
    • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

      Fri, October 9, 2009 - 4:12 AM
      oh I didn't look at the date it was posted.
      it's a comedy site too. that might just be a fake.
      yeah it's a joke post.
      www.somethingawful.com/d/news...rds.php
      ~
      • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

        Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:30 AM
        The bomb hit the Moon at 4:31:53 PDT this morning. I cast a chart at the west coast of Canada.

        Moon => 21 Gemini, 10th House
        => focalizing t-square between Venus/Mercury/Saturn and Uranus. This *could* be stretched to an out-of-sign Grand Cross involving 4H Pluto at 00 Capricorn
        => also in a Grand Trine with Sun and Jupiter/Chiron/Neptune

        Other relevant significant alignments include Mars combust the South Node in Cancer, the Moon's sign. Age-old war and attack on the emotional self.
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:48 AM
          I rather gather thoughthat the experiemtn turned out to be a bit of a damp squib:

          news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091...HJvYmVzZ2k-

          They didn't get the firework display thaey had been hoping for, it seems.

          Serves them right. Too much like those panting idiots who turn up to watch tower blocks being demolished.
          • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

            Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:57 AM
            "They didn't get the firework display thaey had been hoping for, it seems. Serves them right. "

            yeah but lets hope they don't instead think, well we didn't get it right that time,lets do it again even more forcefully than last time.
            Unfortunately it seems that a lot of people operate on the assumption that if you hit something hard the first time and it doesn't work, just hit it even harder the next time.
            • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

              Fri, October 9, 2009 - 10:52 AM
              Last night I read a pro-NASA post somewhere that the rocket didn't actually have a bomb in it, because if it did, and there was water on the Moon, the poisons would render the water useless...
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:51 AM
          'Age-old war and attack on the emotional self.'

          Thatr is whatr bothers me about it. In many respect I shall be excited when Mars finally gets explored for example, the discoveries from Hubble are fascinating - but the gung-ho I saw on Yahoo about how wonderful it all is to bomb the Moon and how much 'blowing things up is human nature' - well, that did turn my stomach.
        • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

          Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:26 AM
          Basically every celestial Body we normally examine in an average chart is involved with the Moon @ 4:31am PDT, if you count Cancer Mars combust the South Node. Woh. This bombing could really have significant ram-ifications, pardon the pun.
          • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

            Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:37 AM
            Ahahahahaha! Good one, Pea!
            • Unsu...
               

              Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

              Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:50 AM
              objects strike the moon all of the time in space and there isn't any fire works .

              why was the event chart done from the earth's location?


              • Re: October 9 Moon Bombing

                Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:55 AM
                "why was the event chart done from the earth's location? "

                I assume cos we're observing it from earth and looking for its relevance to earth?
                After all we don't cast charts for the sun (or most of don't) when we're looking for the effects of solar flares. Same logic I guess.

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