Advertisement
Is this really a good idea?
www.nasa.gov/mission_pag...w/index.html
<The LCROSS shepherding spacecraft and the Atlas V’s Centaur upper stage rocket executed a fly-by of the moon on June 23, 2009 (LCROSS lunar swingby video stream coverage) and entered into an elongated Earth orbit to position LCROSS for impact on a lunar pole. On final approach, the shepherding spacecraft and Centaur will separate. The Centaur will act as a heavy impactor to create a debris plume that will rise above the lunar surface. Projected impact at the lunar South Pole is currently: Oct 9, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. PDT. Following four minutes behind, the shepherding spacecraft will fly through the debris plume, collecting and relaying data back to Earth before impacting the lunar surface and creating a second debris plume. >
It is already up there ready to create an "impact." Gotta love these words.
www.nasa.gov/mission_pag...w/index.html
<The LCROSS shepherding spacecraft and the Atlas V’s Centaur upper stage rocket executed a fly-by of the moon on June 23, 2009 (LCROSS lunar swingby video stream coverage) and entered into an elongated Earth orbit to position LCROSS for impact on a lunar pole. On final approach, the shepherding spacecraft and Centaur will separate. The Centaur will act as a heavy impactor to create a debris plume that will rise above the lunar surface. Projected impact at the lunar South Pole is currently: Oct 9, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. PDT. Following four minutes behind, the shepherding spacecraft will fly through the debris plume, collecting and relaying data back to Earth before impacting the lunar surface and creating a second debris plume. >
It is already up there ready to create an "impact." Gotta love these words.
Advertisement
Advertisement
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 1:47 AMBetter the moon than Pakistan or some other global atrocity. I just think old guys who are losing their potency like to shoot rockets at things... -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 1:42 PM"I just think old guys who are losing their potency like to shoot rockets at things... "
Does anyone think, that this could be a very bad idea?
Screwin with a mass that has direct effect on our tides, weather... what if they cause the moon to lose its remaining atmosphere, alter it's orbit by .ooooo7 or some crazy **t?! Call me a paranoid. Keeps me alert. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 2:57 PMNot exactly wild about "debris" shooting off the moon, for that matter. Where is it going to go, and where's it going to wind up? And that is just a "minor" matter. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 5:45 PMWhat gets me is the money it's going to cost to figure out the moon has some water on it or something. Do we have to do this when most of the country can't even afford to pay attention? ¡Aye Carumba!
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 7:47 PM"Does anyone think, that this could be a very bad idea?
Screwin with a mass that has direct effect on our tides, weather"
We've been blowing shit up on this planet for a long time now... and look around... everything's just fine. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:25 AM"We've been blowing shit up on this planet for a long time now... and look around... everything's just fine. "
This must be sarcasm.
"everything's just fine" ?!? in spite of our "blowing shit up".
Don't think so.
Almost NOTHING is just fine (economy, health, culture) because of the military industrial culture, which is all geared toward "blowing shit up" or selling weapons to others for the same purpose. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:38 AM"This must be sarcasm. "
I think it was definitely sarcasm.
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:54 PMThe moon is placid. Thus far.....
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 10:58 PMHa ha! that is funny Yoda.
"old guys who are losing their potency like to shoot rockets at things... "
.....and possibly the source of motivation for creating rockets in the first place...
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 7:10 PMHey, that's on my birthday!
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:06 AMDidn't Klaudio suggest something similar a year ago?
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:08 AM"It is already up there ready to create an "impact""
How powerful is this impact? Would it be any more powerful than what would naturally occur with meteor showers? -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 12:23 AMNot according to this Popular Mechanics article that calls people who don't like this project "thumb-sucking Luddites." I think that is supposed to be an objective journalistic term. LOL.
www.popularmechanics.com/scien...3.html
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 1:37 AMI don't really like this moon bombing for water nonsense. For one thing, I think we should demonstrate a lot more personal and social responsibility before we start any space colonization escapades where moon water would even matter. However, I am fond of the idea of sending corporate and other greedy, power-mad types to Mars if that means that they will leave the rest of us alone. I have had this little fantasy about "Trump Mars" decorated by Martha Stewart and housing the all the Illuminati and their associates....
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 5:30 AMThis news article s actually making me feel sad. =(
----
Anyway, a quote:
“If they keep crashing stuff into the moon, the moon's gonna get pissed off, and the tides'll change, and all the women'll start PMS-ing together. Then you guys are going to f-cking regret it.” - Tori Amos -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 7:07 AM“If they keep crashing stuff into the moon, the moon's gonna get pissed off, and the tides'll change, and all the women'll start PMS-ing together. Then you guys are going to f-cking regret it.” - Tori Amos
Word.
And yes, Klaudio did pedal a petItion against the proposal.
I hope if aliens see this war-mongering species of space monkeys threatening to bomb and nuke other planetary bodies after messing up earth, they quarantine then permanently.
How about Io? That would be a good moon to send the war mongerers. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 7:11 PMNexus, Tori is also a bit of a nut :-) -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 7:18 PMNASA sounds nuttier. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 11:43 PMEr, Lady Sabre...who is Tori? -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 12:24 AMTori Amos the singer, Nexus ~ the person that was referenced in the quote by ghost girl.
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 12:40 AMTori Amos: www.youtube.com/watch
That's about the only song of hers that remains in my list of good songs.
Oh there's "Happy Phantom" too...
But nowadays I'm feeling her music's for young people.
Yes, I am old now.
I don't like her new look. Or looks.
~
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 7:40 AMI like Tori's "Sleeps With Butterflies"
But this one seems appropriate:
Ice Core Scientist
www.youtube.com/watch -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 11:50 AMI never really got into Tori. Guess it shows.
-
-
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 2:04 PMSometimes the nuttiest ppl end up that way because they can't cope with the insanity of the world though. Irony is a tricky and beautiful thing and largely misunderstood because of its own essence. Irony is a nescessary infliction on the world - a bit like the beauty of hindsight.
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 8:26 AMWhy can't mad scientists explore their own selves for once.
"Find the water in your own psyches, you idiots!"
Bombing the Moon for water - that's symbolic behavior, that is. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:59 PMI wonder where the moon is in their charts - seriously. Anyone got any thoughts on the astrological charts of these alien terrorists?
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:56 PMall the women'll start PMS-ing together.
Good! That'll teach 'em! They'll never even think of doing something like this again!
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:40 AMI checked the transneptunian objects besides Pluto for evolutionary intensified experiences
only the big ones that include:
Eris,Makemake,Haumea - dwarf planets along with Pluto and Ceres
Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion - dwarf planet candidates
Eris in 21'31 Aries
sextile Moon - '11 separating
Sedna in 21'45 Taurus R
square Neptune - 2'06 applying
sextile Uranus - 2'01 applying
sextile Varuna - '07 separating
sextile MC - 2'57 applying
semisextile Moon - '03 applying
contraparallel Sun- '09 applying
contraparallel Ceres - '58 applying
contraparallel Asc - '27 separating
Moon,Eris,and Sedna are in 12th harmonic triangle because Moon sextiles Eris,and Sedna semisextiles both
The Moon/Eris midpoint is in 21'37 Taurus
Therefore, Sedna is conjunct Moon/Eris midpoint with 8 minutes of arc
talk about "far out" controversy involving the Moon!
wonder if it could lead to some disaster that involves the influence of great bodies of water with both Sedna and Varuna being objects named after deities that rules the oceans. they were also linked to death. Varuna judged souls in Indian mythology, and Sedna ruled the Inuit Underworld.
there is more
Haumea in 16'00 Libra
conjunct Sun with 17 minutes of arc separating
conjunct Asc with 1'55 orb separating
trine Jupiter with 1'10 orb applying
square MC with 2'47 orb separating
contraparallel Pluto - '17 applying
Haumea is a transneptunian dwarf planet named after the Hawaiian fertility/creation goddess whose children born from fragments from her body. The actual transneptunian object has fragments from its body that became its moons as well as solar-orbiting transneptunian objects. It used to be big as Pluto, but it suffered a collision which resulted in much of its ice layer broken off.
It's very unique in that it's an extremely rapid spinning object, looking like a football that's been kicked. That due to the violent collision from another large transneptunian object.
Quaoar in 18'31 Sagittarius
sextile Sun - 2'12 applying
sextile Asc - '35 applying
sextile Jupiter - 1'19 separating
quincunx MC - '19 separating
Quaoar is named after the Native American creation deity of the Tongva tribe in California
Varuna in 21'53 Cancer
trine Uranus - 1'53 applying
square Eris - '22 separating
sextile Sedna - '07 separating
sextile Venus - 1'27 separating
contraparallel Moon - '26 applying
Varuna is named after the Indian God of the Oceans. I mentioned that earlier.
It's interesting that Sun is in applying parallel to Sedna,and Moon is an applying contraparallel to Varuna. Both are ocean deities with connections to the dead.
Orcus in 1'32 Virgo
trine Pluto - '40 applying
semisquare Sun - '13 applying
contraparallel Sedna - '35 applying
Orcus is named after the Etruscan God of the Underworld who punished people who broke their oaths.
I also checked direct midpoint pictures involving Eris and Sedna in Solar Fire.
direct midpoints can be just as important as straight up major aspects.
Sedna
conjunct Moon/Eris - '08 separating
conjunct Uranus/MC - '28 separating
Eris
conjunct Moon/Chiron - '04 separating
oppose Sun/Ceres - '54 applying
MC
conjunct Sun/Eris - '06 applying
conjunct Asc/Eris - '55 applying
Uranus conjunct Node/Eris - '20 applying
Mars oppose Node - '10
conjunct Mercury/Sedna - '53 separating
Node
conjunct Neptune/Pluto - '53 applying
Venus
oppose Uranus - '33 applying
oppose Neptune/Eris - '31 separating
oppose Node/Sedna - '53 applying
a lot of Eris direct midpoints
highly controversial indeed!
a lot of crap being stirred up
a lot of debate over it.
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:09 PMNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:11 PMMaybe our horoscope will be changed after all, by default. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:30 PMI've just realised that this is right on the button for my T Saturn conjunct N Pluto AND square N Moon...does this mean I might get to skip the Moon part? ;)
(Mild unease changes to grave concern haha)
Philip -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:45 PMYES! And, maybe it will bugger up my moon conjunct saturn, speeed the whole thing up in some way *yay*! On a more serious note though (actually, who knows, maybe this wil change aspects in our chart - ANYTHING is possible I believe, and the optimist and negative in me agree!) this whole thing makes me feel a little sad. How would we feel if life forms on other planets decided to experiment with us? Sounds flippant, but we shouldn't be so arrogant to assume it could never happen - we simply just don't know. The whole conversation of life forms on other planets is subjective, and comes down to personal belief systems, which are again, subjective. My virgo moon is unhappy about this. Details are good, but not at the expense of something that is based firmly in curiosity. There's enough to be curious about on this earth.......... -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 1:51 PMwww.evolver.net/user/enthe...ombing_moon
The Astrology of Bombing the Moon!!!
-
-
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:07 PMI will hold a little E-vent for three days, in case anyone is interested.
vedicastrologycenter.net/blog/...-moon/ -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:37 PMIt does seem to be an incredibly destructive thing to do - Captain Kirk and his ilk should look in he mirror, here will be a Borg, or a Kilingon, or a dalek, staring right back at him. Explore strange new worlds (ok, not so strange, let's foul our own nest a little further aflield instead then)- and bomb them. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:55 PMThe moon keeps so many important things in a healthy balance here on Earth, you'd think intelligent scientists wouldn't want to mess around with it too much. Decreasing its mass by any small percentage, or affecting its orbit in any small way, may wreak havoc with our delicate balance of nature here on Earth. I know the Russians shot rockets into it during the space race, but it seems we have bigger problems here on Earth and out in space to explore before we see if there's water on the moon. Whether or not there's water on the moon won't end food shortages or stop gang violence or prevent organized religions from murdering people with impunity.
Yoda rant ends here... -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 4:16 PMI think that these guys are seriously looking toward expanding out into habitable or semi-habitable areas in the solar system. I think we need to get our shit together before we go spreading ourselves around. But the density of the population on this planet is creating an impetus to find more space. It is getting crowded, and resources are obviously being depleted rapidly. Same old human story ~ use it up and move on.
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 11:01 PMthank you for these Sadasiva.
-
-
India
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 9:04 PMThey claim they are looking for water.... but India already discovered water on the moon apparently: www.youtube.com/watch -
-
Re: India
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 9:12 PMI don't know why we keep doing stupid stuff. It would be nice if we did something intelligent for a change.
-
Re: India
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 4:12 AMThe intended impact will be at 4:31:19 a.m. PDT
If you are up right now, the live streaming Nasa report can be viewed here: www.nasa.gov/multimedia/...v/index.html -
-
Re: India
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 6:16 AMWell, looks like I missed it. But here is some additional information:
www.usatoday.com/tech/scie...robe_N.htm
-
Unsu...
Re: India
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:05 AMlana ,
the link to the website was helpful in finding where it was live streamed .
Thank you
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 3:54 AM -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 4:12 AMoh I didn't look at the date it was posted.
it's a comedy site too. that might just be a fake.
yeah it's a joke post.
www.somethingawful.com/d/news...rds.php
~
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:30 AMThe bomb hit the Moon at 4:31:53 PDT this morning. I cast a chart at the west coast of Canada.
Moon => 21 Gemini, 10th House
=> focalizing t-square between Venus/Mercury/Saturn and Uranus. This *could* be stretched to an out-of-sign Grand Cross involving 4H Pluto at 00 Capricorn
=> also in a Grand Trine with Sun and Jupiter/Chiron/Neptune
Other relevant significant alignments include Mars combust the South Node in Cancer, the Moon's sign. Age-old war and attack on the emotional self. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:48 AMI rather gather thoughthat the experiemtn turned out to be a bit of a damp squib:
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091...HJvYmVzZ2k-
They didn't get the firework display thaey had been hoping for, it seems.
Serves them right. Too much like those panting idiots who turn up to watch tower blocks being demolished. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:57 AM"They didn't get the firework display thaey had been hoping for, it seems. Serves them right. "
yeah but lets hope they don't instead think, well we didn't get it right that time,lets do it again even more forcefully than last time.
Unfortunately it seems that a lot of people operate on the assumption that if you hit something hard the first time and it doesn't work, just hit it even harder the next time. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 10:52 AMLast night I read a pro-NASA post somewhere that the rocket didn't actually have a bomb in it, because if it did, and there was water on the Moon, the poisons would render the water useless...
-
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:51 AM'Age-old war and attack on the emotional self.'
Thatr is whatr bothers me about it. In many respect I shall be excited when Mars finally gets explored for example, the discoveries from Hubble are fascinating - but the gung-ho I saw on Yahoo about how wonderful it all is to bomb the Moon and how much 'blowing things up is human nature' - well, that did turn my stomach.
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:26 AMBasically every celestial Body we normally examine in an average chart is involved with the Moon @ 4:31am PDT, if you count Cancer Mars combust the South Node. Woh. This bombing could really have significant ram-ifications, pardon the pun. -
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:37 AMAhahahahaha! Good one, Pea! -
-
Unsu...
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:50 AMobjects strike the moon all of the time in space and there isn't any fire works .
why was the event chart done from the earth's location?
-
-
Re: October 9 Moon Bombing
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 8:55 AM"why was the event chart done from the earth's location? "
I assume cos we're observing it from earth and looking for its relevance to earth?
After all we don't cast charts for the sun (or most of don't) when we're looking for the effects of solar flares. Same logic I guess.
-
-
-
-
-
-
