topic posted Tue, April 18, 2006 - 10:45 PM by  slay
hi ya'll,

anyone know anything about this transpluto?
i heard it's another jupiter in our chart and quite powerful also.
advance thanks to any imput

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    Re: TransPluto

    Wed, April 19, 2006 - 9:10 AM
    As far as I know it is hypothetical planet, posulated by the Uranian aschool of astrology, which also mooted several other hypothetical planets. So why not google for Uranian, or for Hamburg and for their founder, Witte? You might get more information about it that way.

    I could be sceptical about all these points, but I have also heard that their forecasting techniques can be very accurate........
    • Re: TransPluto

      Wed, April 19, 2006 - 9:29 AM
      Also known as Persephone, Bacchus, Isis or Minerva, Transpluto is a hypothetical planet based on the irregularities in the orbital motions of Uranus and Neptune. On the material plane, Transpluto signifies events through which sudden and chaotic energies are released, often followed by violent after effects.
      Data about it and an ephemeris can be found at this website:

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        Re: TransPluto

        Wed, April 19, 2006 - 9:35 AM
        ..Hence the fact it may work probably, even if hypothetical. The wobbles int eh motions are probably real enough.
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          Wed, April 19, 2006 - 9:59 AM
          ...there are 3 non- theoretical 'planets' on the external periphery of the zodiac, Quaoar, Sedna and Orcus. Quaoar astrology: Quaoar is a generational influence planet and it's influence has been suggested:
          Sedna astrology:
          Orcus astrology:

          Another great site on astro stuff + ephemeris is:
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            Re: TransPluto

            Wed, April 19, 2006 - 10:15 AM
            And for that matter, there is Xena too. Unlike Quoar, Sedna and the like, it is purportedly bigger than Pluto and therefore, truly warrants planet status, and will get an official name in July, which you will be about to find out about from these lovely sites.

            Where are you, Od and Zane?
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              Wed, April 19, 2006 - 10:48 AM
              ...It will certainly be interesting to see what archetypal qualities will be applied to 'Xena'!!!
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                Wed, April 19, 2006 - 11:36 AM
                It would also be interesting to see if any correlations could be made between Witte's hypothetical planets and the newer discoveries. Couls at least some of them be now accounted for by them? You would have to look at the ephemerides for the hypothetical planets and compare them with Xena's and those of the Kuiper belt.
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                  Wed, April 19, 2006 - 2:08 PM
                  There doesn't appear to be any instantly apparent correlation...

                  Xena ephemeris:
                  Transpluto ephemeris:
                  (I also X- referenced Sedna, Quaoar and Orcus' ephemerides also for a correlation)

                  ...You'd have thought that Transpluto would have definately been found by now if it existed as Neptune (discovered in 1781) and Pluto (discovered 1930) were located by observing the orbital deviations of Uranus (Neptune) and Neptune (Pluto), and the fact that they've found smaller orbitting bodies at a greater distance in the Kuiper belt sheds even more doubt on it's existance.
                  I could surmize that Pluto's apparent deviation may have been caused by some other phenomenon such as it being slammed into by a comet or something...
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                    Re: TransPluto

                    Wed, April 19, 2006 - 5:51 PM
                    WOW you guys are deep!!
                    U sure know ur stuff-
                    thanks for those interesting info and sites Lynda and Kro--
                    will follow up on 'em.
          • Re: TransPluto

            Wed, April 19, 2006 - 6:12 PM
            1. Transpluto is the name that has been given to a hypothetical body, and many astrologers (especially Uranian astrologers), utilize it. While there are ephemerides published, so far there is no actual proof that this body exists. Some have hypothesized that it will one day be discovered, others have hypothesized that it may be a midpont between two other bodies. However, to this date, not one of the actual bodies past Pluto have orbits which match this hypothetical body.

            2. Any body out past Pluto could be called a TransPlutonian body. True, Quoaor, Sedna and Orcus could be considered TransPlutonians. Other bodies to include in this list are Rhadamanthus, Huya, Deucalion and Varuna. I have a webpage dedicated to all of these, which includes a 2005-2006 ephemeris for each one, so you can see where it is transiting in your chart. More on this in a moment.

            3. As mentioned by my colleague, the body nicknamed 'Xena' has been officially declared our Tenth Planet, and we will find out this summer what it's name is. (It may be July, but the IAU site I went to said the announcement was scheduled for August.) I explore this body, too, on my website.

            The page for the bodies mentioned in #2 and #3, above, is:
            Because 'Xena' has been officially declared the Tenth Planet, I have created a separate page giving it's positions from 1900-2006 so you can not only see where it is transiting, but also where it is in your chart, your parents' charts, etc:

            • Re: TransPluto

              Wed, April 19, 2006 - 6:18 PM
              Hey Zane I think you posted tis one already but...oops.. Do you know the (#) astro uses for it??
              • Re: TransPluto

                Wed, April 19, 2006 - 6:31 PM

                For the new "planet" 2003 UB 313, please enter "999001".
                • Re: TransPluto

                  Wed, April 19, 2006 - 6:52 PM
                  Thanks.. I remember talking about it as .... um Zena I think..
                  But Maybe I never got the # don't seem to have it in my notes..
                  Thanx Zane..
                  I think I've now heard about 4 or 5 posible names
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