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Just wondering why aquarius is weakest in sun.. Where is it strongest than? In Ascendant or Moon?
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Unsu...
Re: Aquarius weakest in sun.
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 8:47 PMThe Sun rules Leo, which is the opposite sign of Aquarius. So the Sun is said to be in detriment in Aquarius.
Planets are in detriment when they are in the sign opposite the one they rule. That doesn't necessarily mean "weak"...just that the planet's expression/integration in that sign is a little uncomfortable or challenging.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 8:54 PMI guess Saturn in Aquarius would also be strong, if you used the traditional rulers.
There are also planets that are exalted or in their fall in certain signs. The list I have goes a little something like this:
Exalted
Sun - Aries
Moon - Taurus
Jupiter - Cancer
Saturn - Libra
Mars - Capricorn
Venus - Pisces
Fall
Sun - Libra
Moon - Scorpio
Jupiter - Capricorn
Saturn - Aries
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 9:07 PMThanks Willow.. !.. What does... Fall mean? I have a Moon in Scorp.. does that mean bad placement? Thanks in advance =)
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:25 PMFall would mean that the planet has more difficulty being fully expressed or integrated into the person's overall being. A tricky placement, full of lessons, not a comfortable, flowing placement.
So Moon in Scorp would be tricky maybe because of the depth of emotion in Scorpio? The emotions tend to run to extremes, and one may not wish to reflect (moon) on the darker emotions and emotional needs that one may have. Scorpio likes to stay in control and not give away too much of its inner self right away, so the emotionally-based interactions with other people might be somewhat suppressed. The depth of emotional needs with a Scorp moon might be so intense that the person has a difficult time finding anyone who is able to deal with them...or nurture them in the all-encompassing way that they need. Trusting another person with the full extent of your emotions might be scary and difficult. Emotional betrayal by others and resulting trust issues. Feeling like you're dragging yourself through an emotional desert without a drop of emotional nurturing or understanding to be found. Having to rely on yourself to meet your own emotional needs and the loneliness and oppressiveness of that. A lot of time alone to explore the depths, but being a little freaked out to actually go as far as Scorpio requires one to go. Sticky, emotional detritus that you have to strip away, strip away, strip away, getting to your emotional core and sort of losing control, having to surrender to this process and express dark and difficult emotions with others...again, very difficult to expose oneself in that way...for the Moon and for Scorp...which like protection and safety and being out of reach of others.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:50 PMWell said..... you should post up in Scorp. Moon.. =) & yes.. those issues come up...go to my own personal depths of inner turmoil. . where it feels like you said, dark and ominous and want to be alone..look your own demons in the face.. and deal with it... then... bada bing, bada boom... become renewed...and once again am content and happy. Scorpio moon makes you go through your own hell to shed whatever is not working in your life to find a new lease in life... It's a self-perpetuating cycle... but oh how fresh the air is and how wonderful life is when the metamophosis is over.. until the next one... ! =) Just wait,, there's always a rainbow after the rain..... I promise...
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Fri, September 7, 2007 - 6:51 AMHoly Crap! That's all I have to say. Willow thats me in 2 paragraphs. I don't think I've ever seen such a good description of a Scorpio Moon. You should post that over on the Scporpio Moon tribe... -
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Fri, September 7, 2007 - 9:53 AMYou can, if you want...I don't belong to that tribe. :) -
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Fri, September 7, 2007 - 11:05 AMThat is the first time I ever heard that Aquariuns consider themselves misuderstood. Or the most misunderstood. Most of my Aquarian friends are pretty well understood because they have no problems talking about almost anything under the sun. Maybe we have an eccentric kind of communication pattern but that is only due to the fact that individuality is the flip side of the collective coin for Aquarians. You know they value the collective but will have the courage to speak up for the individual. Because they see the individual as part and parcel of the collective. Since they value the us is gonna get us through this and its no fun being alone, they totally value the renegade too, since it brings strength to the whole in forcing it to change and use other options. Many Aquarians have the ability to stand completely outside of time. It is wonderful to have strong healthy Aquarian tendancies. Hopefully the new age will be able to connect w/each other and bring all the wonderful benefits that sacrificial humanity has well what has sacrificial humanity done for us? Could babel on for some time like this but since the moon just entered Leo probably should do something to strengthen my ego.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:47 PMLiz,
I know Willow touched on this, but there is no such thing as a "bad placement" in my opinion. Some offer us more of a challenge because there is a larger lesson to be learned in our growth and development. I actually preffer the placements that some would consider "bad" because I feel they have taught me the most about who I am and what I need to continue to work on.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:53 PMyeah, I agree. Bad placement are something you just have to incorporate in your life and work with.. keeps you on your toes =-)
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 9:36 PMI would think it would be "weak" because the Sun wants to think about its self and Aquarius is about the community.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 1:54 AMWillow has already explain it... but i would like to say that Sun in Aquarius gives fredom to some planets an aspects in our natal charts. Aquarius Its a peacemaker rather then a violent troublemaker like its oposite leo. Also detrimine doesnt mean that a person is physical weak...
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 2:33 AMOOPS i meant detriment, also Uranus in leo is detriment and Dignified in Aquarius.
it is exalted in Scorpio and and in fall in taurus. the moon is exalted in taurus and in fall in Scorpio this means its energy is watered down.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:33 AMi think your rising sign is the msot defining placments you as an individual have.. -
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 9:52 AMAs far as how symbolism relates to reality, the sun is "weakest" in Jan & Feb.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 10:27 AM1st House Sun in Aquarius. Bummer.
Must make me a "detrimental" extrovert. Emphasis on the MENTAL.
Too funny.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:27 PMBo...but the Sun is exalted in Aries...so that's reflected by your 1st house placement. So you've got a bit of detriment, a bit of exaltation. :)
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:30 PMVerseau...really good point about the Sun in its cycle. -
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:42 PM"The element linked with this sign can be likened to the driving and concentrated force of the winter wind, alive with flakes of snow, and
compelling in direction and dynamic in power.
Aquarius is born in the middle of winter, and this is probably the bleakest month of the year. It is the time of wind and ice, when the land breaks up its existing structure and suddenly takes on a strange, unusual shape under the brilliant mantle of snow. To an outsider's view all may appear dead but, beneath this stark cold landscape, lies the magical truth that life still exists.
And so Aquarius reflects this in their nature for, beneath the cool and detached approach, there lies a warm inner "knowing" that they have found the Star that was searched for in Sagittarius and , they realise now with blinding clarity, that by worrying about the future we may fail to see what is right in front of us all the time - our moment of destiny, and our part in the evolutionary cycle of eternal life.
This sign is the Voice of Intuition - the Light of truth that glows in our heart on a dark winter's night. They are the Enlightened teachers of a coming age, and the upholders of the sanctity of human life."
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Thu, September 6, 2007 - 6:32 AMThese types of sign planet placement-fall -detriment , home ect. is primarily used in horary and electional -and even mundane astrology -medical astrology -Maybe Vedic astrology too. In a person centered chart many use more of a pychological format so it seems it isn't used in the same way and so it basically relates to something descriptive of that to the personality . With self centered astrology fate and freewill translates slightly different too more so like with theology and even humanistic -as odd as that might seem .
it is good to learn them and play around with it. In my own chart I have sag in the third house so the house takes away some of the detriment of the sign for that planet because mercury is home there. So anything it would be in parallele with would be strengthened and it is strengthened as well because it is infact parallel and the Mc is too so many things can bump most of the weakenss right out or at least modifed it.
I often see where people have signs in detriment that are in mutral recpetion and this modifies the meaning .
If a person is an Aquarius sun and happenes to have either saturn or uranus in Leo then it modifies the description it becomes a good placement.
So basical by applying various astrological rules oftetimes it not as it might initially seem.
Your astrologer i doubt will go over all of that they will write up a report and you may notice it in the grid only as breing in detriment but when reading the report you might think hmm it sounds like a pleasant thing . There is so much in astrology it could make your head spin at first . You learn about the dignities and other rules thus learning how certain things will change all of that .
P.S. Bo
You give a good example -you have a first house Aquarius sun -Aries is exhaulted in the sun so by way of house placement this actually modifies the weakeness of the sign of the sun -it gives it strength rather than being a bad thing it is not as weak or crappy as you might think from just reading that one aspect of it , but then again I haven't looked at your whole chart.
Again I say in that instance and piece of your chart, what I have described is basically correct.
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Thu, September 6, 2007 - 12:19 PMI have Sun in Aquarius and Saturn in Leo and I was told that this is some sort of royal dharma? A very powerful mutual reception that can act as a Sun in Leo, Saturn in Aquarius placement. -
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Thu, September 6, 2007 - 8:27 PMAquarius is anything but a weak sun sign Elizabeth. They do however have an inate ability to seem detatched. Unlike their counter part Leo whose natives seldom express themselves either with or through detatchment. Leo can be fierce and they can be clannish and they can play all types of games w/you but they hardly ever seem detatched. The personal ego is NOT the most important element in life for the Aquarius native and this may make it difficult for them to be understood by other sun signs. "What, you mean it is not all about me." Aquarians get that statement. Other sun signs don't get it like Aquarians. Self preservation is not the only thing that enters into the head w/Aquarius. But they want to live a lot in their head. Aquarius is often described as the sun sign of genius. Plus right now there is an added benefit because all of humanity has entered the "Age of Aquarius".
The moon's placement in Aquarius is considered as difficult as the sun placeed un Aquarius. It is in some circles it is described as rendering a cool unemotional disposition. This however can be considered a benifit, to not be overly emotional. But that does not mean they won't take intense interest in all types of activities.
I would imagine a true Aqurius rising native would be maybe a bit tall and willowy w/a clear bright and perhaps ageless quality about them. They would most probably have excellent grooming but may be a bit scattered in some habits due to constant movement. -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...
Re: Aquarius weakest in sun.
Fri, September 7, 2007 - 9:50 AMWeeeellll...
I wouldn't say that no other Sun signs understand going beyond the personal ego (as Aquarius does). The first six signs of the zodiac (from Aries to Virgo) are about the self, primarily. That's just how it is. Development of the self, climaxing with the attempt at refinement and mastery of self in Virgo.
The next six (Libra to Pisces) are about going beyond the self (and ego). I would say all those signs have a pretty good grasp on that. For example, Libra can lose itself entirely, if its not careful, in the other person, the relationship, the dynamics. Same with Scorpio...in an even scarier, all-encompassing, body-mind-and-soul kind of way. Sag can lose itself in worldly experiences and fixation on philosopy and such. Capricorn can lose itself in obsession with work and its public role. And Pisces...well, Pisces is generally very aware that this is not all there is, so there's not much point in attaching to the ego self. Pisces, historically, has been all about sacrificing the personal ego for the greater good.
Anyway...point being...Aquarius is probably quite conscious of this theme popping up a lot in life because it is opposite Leo...which is ruled by the grand old Sun ego, etc. But all six later signs have a focus on what is beyond the personal ego, and even the earlier signs can experience the push and pull of that.
I would also say that going beyond the personal ego is PART of an Aquarius' Sun ego. :) Aquarius Suns, in my experience, seem to really love that they are considered the sign least understood, most revolutionary and ahead of their time, etc.
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