http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#452fbcd7-ca46-47ef-913b-e845fab03948 Yes, sherpa, there is something scary about being a human like you. Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:00:11 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#452fbcd7-ca46-47ef-913b-e845fab03948 $item.owner.firstName 2009-07-15T04:00:11Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a2cc6a81-d64b-4380-ba67-cb0a889c0362 My first two girlfriends had Moon Capricorn and my current girlfriend has moon conjunct saturn. With my ex girlfriend, whilst living with her at student accomodation, there were two other women living there i became friends with, and guess what?... They both had Moon in capricorn, and a female friend of one of those women asked me to look at her chart and guess what?...Moon capricorn. From my experience, yes, they can be very manipulative, but also, when you genuinely need support, I dont think any other moon sign could be as helpful as moon capricorn, although, i cannot speak for men with moon capricorn, never met one as far as i know. Myself being a weak piscean with over abundant mars in aries energy, they helped to sooth the burns and cater to the wounds very profficiantly, patiently. Yet, they could just as easily calculate to create a fresh scar when they're own wounds were opened up. Its hard for them to reveal any vulnerability, which I guess I attracted these moon caprocorn women due to my natal venus opposing Saturn, perhapse soemthing inside me is screaming for a woman to completely control and dominate me, but this is tipping the scales of emotion out of balance. I believe they claim power as they instinctively know best how to give power (moon nurturing, capricorn control, control emotions and you may eventually empower yourself to become whatever) But every individual has choice how they use what they have been born with, dont blame astrology, the fault is in us Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:09:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a2cc6a81-d64b-4380-ba67-cb0a889c0362 $item.owner.firstName 2009-07-06T10:09:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c6affa48-48a5-4954-acf5-17a84d41451f one of my best girls is a cap/cap moon and yeah she's all of those but also real worka-holic like and industrious which I do admire ... Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:17:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c6affa48-48a5-4954-acf5-17a84d41451f SynerGy 2009-07-04T21:17:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d874dcb8-4acd-4e99-a0a8-76fc567c294f thank you, good point - how is a capricorn moon a great thing to have? would have been a better question/assumption to start with. could have gotten some imaginations going in a more productive direction in any case.... Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:47:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d874dcb8-4acd-4e99-a0a8-76fc567c294f Melanie 2009-07-04T19:47:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e78d512-2069-4795-8713-6c51ed72b075 writhe?? i don't know if that's the word i'd use.... i like to emphasize the positive cap traits of - steadiness, stability, groundedness, long-term thinking (surely not a bad thing? come on!!)... also sense of humor... horniness? i think the cap moon can be a great thing... though care must be taken not to repress, & not to self-isolate, me loves the earth!!!!!!! :) Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:41:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e78d512-2069-4795-8713-6c51ed72b075 Melanie 2009-07-04T19:41:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4e26e6f6-a093-4cdd-95a9-38ef4c675b9d hey, i'm cap moon, first house jupiter too! pisces sun & mercury/cancer ascendant, so too sensitive & indirect to run for office or try to take over the world directly (!) though i *do* look to influence the collective unconscious with my ideas/art, however... cap moon maybe gives a determination & seriousness in these matters. carry on then... :) Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:35:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4e26e6f6-a093-4cdd-95a9-38ef4c675b9d Melanie 2009-07-04T19:35:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96d30095-d11b-4ce8-af1a-5bb8d47d40f3 and the answer to the original post/question is a very definite YES . cap moons writhe with a need for authority and the last word . Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:34:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96d30095-d11b-4ce8-af1a-5bb8d47d40f3 SynerGy 2009-07-03T23:34:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#229627db-6d49-4610-94ae-f3940d3ad361 Nowadays topics with less than 500 answers are obsolete! Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:49:59 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#229627db-6d49-4610-94ae-f3940d3ad361 Joakim 2009-07-03T22:49:59Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#07e92909-c30f-459e-a330-de4d052d8390 Right. No problems here, clearly. Sun, 31 May 2009 03:45:17 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#07e92909-c30f-459e-a330-de4d052d8390 amiablehermit 2009-05-31T03:45:17Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52735e06-4322-4ecd-97dc-29fd82759d66 Scorp type can’t stand it when the hatred inciter screamed like monkey in hideous moth shape. The sight of hatred inciter’s illogical repelling bellowing at innocent folks is just too much. Scorp, not afraid of dark energy, came out to combat this ugly sight. The amount of steam hasn’t exceeded the evilness in the abhorrent direful moth. Sun, 31 May 2009 03:35:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52735e06-4322-4ecd-97dc-29fd82759d66 Laux 2009-05-31T03:35:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8a6783a6-40f4-47de-8f92-7b5a5d11dccc By "it" I mean angry train wreck explosive behavior. I have witnessed it many times. It is almost old news. Sun, 31 May 2009 01:56:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8a6783a6-40f4-47de-8f92-7b5a5d11dccc amiablehermit 2009-05-31T01:56:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ddc8d214-d260-4226-931d-52e2d2adf026 Well, fortunately or unfortunately for me, I not only recognize it, but am accustomed to it. My own personal view it that it stems from grief, and that it is not really what it may appear to be, but I take into consideration that I cannot help but have a Leo 12th House perspective of it, too. And I only have Ceres in Aries 8H, but, thank you, that is plenty for me there. Sun, 31 May 2009 01:47:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ddc8d214-d260-4226-931d-52e2d2adf026 amiablehermit 2009-05-31T01:47:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#972ee909-6517-4317-9283-633e66eeeec6 Yeah I notice it when reading Brendan's posts here also, which remind me of my posts from another thread where someone pissed me off...that's 8th house, and with Saturn there, there's that sporadic thing... But the thing with Scorpio/8th house which differs from Aries in the whole needing a release thing is that Aries lets it go. Scorpio/8th house seethes in anger, and sometimes that anger just doesn't end. It can also be sadistic in a way--like enjoying unnerving others. I'm going through this with my Pluto transits--I've really been boiling about people. Transits also make a person prone to these "releases." Sun, 31 May 2009 00:09:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#972ee909-6517-4317-9283-633e66eeeec6 sonah22 2009-05-31T00:09:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#26d44233-aba0-4139-ab92-2141b19c4d7b His Sun is in 10H Scorpio conj Neptune, both opposed to 4H Taurus Jupiter. He has empty 12th and 1st Houses. He has Capricorn rising. But in Virgo 8H, he has Mars conj Uranus, which is conj Pluto. You are right, sonah ~ 8H looks like the key. Sat, 30 May 2009 23:40:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#26d44233-aba0-4139-ab92-2141b19c4d7b amiablehermit 2009-05-30T23:40:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#60bd6af9-1c06-4d67-ba1d-75781d741e05 Most people don´t realize that many scorps are built like pressure-cookers, all that steam has to be released somewhere! If that valve is not opened now & then the whole thing might go KA-BOOM, so from time to time a certain little "performance" has to take place. Its not that different from certain Libras ballet-lessions, they have to do that stuff & jump around like grasshoppers; that´s just part of the package! "Healthy aggression" perhaps is a suitable term? The surroundings often take it the wrong way, they make too much of it! Think of it as "sparring" or something similar, who wouldn´t want to meet a good, old grizzly that now & then did a little "roar-routine"? That´s not so strange. hide" Yeah that's the textbook definition of planets Scorpio and planets in the 8th house and even Pluto, but they're so shocked that they don't remember this and shrink away, wimpering. I've done this to people--makes me feel evil. Or just relieved that I don't have to deal with them anymore... Sat, 30 May 2009 22:45:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#60bd6af9-1c06-4d67-ba1d-75781d741e05 sonah22 2009-05-30T22:45:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9584b495-c282-46a4-a75e-0dd92fdc0277 "Right. With the implication that it is because he won't remember it anyway. Great compliment. You are both a boob and a rube. Being a troll goes without saying. " LOL--this whole thread is hilarious. You know, I was too lazy to read it until today, but wow--I've been missing out on some classic hermit gems! Sat, 30 May 2009 22:38:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9584b495-c282-46a4-a75e-0dd92fdc0277 sonah22 2009-05-30T22:38:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8e2eea86-4938-4c04-917e-6b4d0b873db7 Geez Laux...you really need to look at yourself here. I'm a Cancer sun, and I have close friend with Capricorn influences, and you know, part of a Cancerian's purpose is to help people admit they have a heart. Like the Cappy who called you at 3 am... Instead of saying he has a sense of superiority, you could rephrase that with "he has difficulty expressing himself, but feels comfortable around me." I mean, when people who rarely open up- like Plutonians or Goats-open up to me I feel better about myself, not angry at them for not being as much of an open book... I do understand your frustrations also since we are talking about an opposition here. I've been shocked by Cappies before. There's just such a pragmatic POV sometimes that it looks insensitive. But I've experienced that with all earth signs... And that's what is also positive. The Earth that needs Water to nourish it. And in return, the Earth provides stability...this is all grade 1 astrology, but I'm just reminding you... The way I look at one of the best friendships I have with a Cappy moon is that she teaches me the VALUE of things. Like time, a phone call, a gift that's hand made. I have truly learned that giving goes beyond emotion. I can feel like I love a person, but actually showing that love with material comforts--that is the nice thing about Capricorn, and it's something they are here to teach Cancerians about. And yes, Cancer has these qualities, but like Paul has said before--it's an opposition--they're here to teach eachother. I think your ego might be too attached to your sensitivity (and yes, I am teh same way many times), and you also seem too sensitive for these people. And that could be just the way it is. You might just not be compatible with Capricorn moon. I'm kind of scared of earth myself because I get hurt too easily by bluntness (hypocritical for an aries moon/leo asc., but Cancer sun is just like this of course), so maybe that's what you're feeling? And I see a great sense of superiority in you--you're judging their inability to express emotion instead of just absorbing the earth... Sat, 30 May 2009 22:36:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8e2eea86-4938-4c04-917e-6b4d0b873db7 sonah22 2009-05-30T22:36:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8b7c18cc-1859-427e-8075-15d3a82115ec Most people don´t realize that many scorps are built like pressure-cookers, all that steam has to be released somewhere! If that valve is not opened now & then the whole thing might go KA-BOOM, so from time to time a certain little "performance" has to take place. Its not that different from certain Libras ballet-lessions, they have to do that stuff & jump around like grasshoppers; that´s just part of the package! "Healthy aggression" perhaps is a suitable term? The surroundings often take it the wrong way, they make too much of it! Think of it as "sparring" or something similar, who wouldn´t want to meet a good, old grizzly that now & then did a little "roar-routine"? That´s not so strange. Sat, 30 May 2009 22:16:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8b7c18cc-1859-427e-8075-15d3a82115ec Joakim 2009-05-30T22:16:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#23e9888d-c929-49c7-af58-44f81bfa2a1e so heelp me if you can.... what would a Leo moon ... 's influence be on Virgo sun....? Leo 11 Virgo 12 ?? perfectly dramatic hopes and dreams.... in secret???!!!!! My Mom is a db Scorpio Sun in 1st house with Leo moon conj MC There is this REALLY high expectation that really no one except her self can reach. It's not to easy to be her kid, or grand kid. but it does give us all something to strive for, even if we can't really ever achieve it. Travis- what in the world do you expect to acheive here. It's like some totally out of controll expression of a territorial war. Tribe is a public forum, No one owns it except the folks that run it. In the last while I've never seen you you enter a conversation here, except to attemt to totally insult folks and your one man army war against amiable, just seems like a totally futal life purpose. It's like watching a Drug induced soap opera that never ends. Sat, 30 May 2009 21:52:11 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#23e9888d-c929-49c7-af58-44f81bfa2a1e Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-30T21:52:11Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5dc37e20-2627-438a-a9f8-afa306b2e898 More obvious "royal" behavior, when talking about rams & caps in general, probably is the male sheep doing his business. Caps are more like silent chess-players that slowly approaches from behind. That male sheep moon can make earth signs like Virgo (perhaps even bulls too) reckless & impatient, maidens with that lunar-stuff in the trunk often should try to deliberately slow things down before taking important decisions, to postpone as much as possible. Speed kills! Sat, 30 May 2009 21:12:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5dc37e20-2627-438a-a9f8-afa306b2e898 Joakim 2009-05-30T21:12:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8f6ae3c2-bace-4ad9-a959-80b408d72563 <doesnt really matter if its off - topic ....not from what I gather please correct me if Im wrong > This is the Wild West. Virtually anything goes around here, which I think you noticed. But I still think you need your own thread. People are bored with me, so no thread needed. Leo Sun Aqua Moon is not much of challenge. Sat, 30 May 2009 18:47:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8f6ae3c2-bace-4ad9-a959-80b408d72563 amiablehermit 2009-05-30T18:47:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#06c405f7-83f3-49bb-b3de-7c42114ad14a Well, that was nothing. You need your own Virgo Sun Leo Moon thread. You look like a great deal of fun to me, but the Sun/Moon disconnect is too interesting. And then all the aspects to both, but mostly your Moon. Not only do your boots do more than walk, but it could be that you do a lot more than dance in them as well. Sat, 30 May 2009 18:44:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#06c405f7-83f3-49bb-b3de-7c42114ad14a amiablehermit 2009-05-30T18:44:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d9d96107-d9d8-42a6-8bd0-dc69f6285395 <<But I think you need your own thread>> hey...right back atcha!!!! Actually...no, Im a little like you -- I just add to OP's doesnt really matter if its off - topic ....not from what I gather please correct me if Im wrong ~xo Sat, 30 May 2009 18:41:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d9d96107-d9d8-42a6-8bd0-dc69f6285395 ~Breeze~ 2009-05-30T18:41:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#94a3a232-3a83-4573-ac59-bd0e4814d77f True. Theyre also nice to look at.... and keeping my skinny ankles warm... Theyve been a long time coming. Thanks for the obs! Sat, 30 May 2009 18:38:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#94a3a232-3a83-4573-ac59-bd0e4814d77f ~Breeze~ 2009-05-30T18:38:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#64bec6c9-7c7f-455c-a8e2-1ad97fda392b "Moon influence on a sun-sign is said to be whatever the moon has in common with that specific sun, those character-traits become more underlined (meaning: a Cap moon can be a lot of very different things, just because it perhaps make rams even more interested in ruling things the effect with fish-fingers or crabs can be something else...)" Joakim, I like how you put it. I know a ram with cap moon, who position himself as a king. He does whatever he wants to nice and flexible people but sets limit for everyone and turns cold when people don't obey him. Sat, 30 May 2009 17:58:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#64bec6c9-7c7f-455c-a8e2-1ad97fda392b Laux 2009-05-30T17:58:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d7acd82e-1a18-4828-9c65-1751585703f5 Yes, that worked very nicely, thank you. But I think you need your own thread. Damn, girl! Look at that loaded 12th House! Your Sun forms no aspects to your Moon, but there is quite a lot of other stuff that is mostly riveted on your Moon. I am just looking at your natal chart at the moment, not the progressions and transits. Libra Venus conj Asc and Scorpio Jupiter conj Libra Venus in H1 while also sextiling your Sun and Moon conjunctions to 11H Leo Mars. Your boots weren't just made for walking. Sat, 30 May 2009 17:36:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d7acd82e-1a18-4828-9c65-1751585703f5 amiablehermit 2009-05-30T17:36:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7aa356da-91cf-4212-8f17-214f7bafe888 Who went after whom here, Manticore? He's been on something of a crusade, but he never has explained to me what the problem actually is. I have always liked Travis, as I have made very well known to one and all, but you must know that he tends to self-destruct a lot, which is really too bad, but not my problem. You may think that I look like a damned fool ~ that's fine with me ~ fools have their functions, too. But I think that even to the casual observer the onus of foolishness can well be placed elsewhere. As for "dissing" him, I just treated him like the child he was acting out to be. He was just playing with scissors. I was just playing with him. It is a subtle affection that we have for each other that I do not expect you to understand. Sat, 30 May 2009 17:17:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7aa356da-91cf-4212-8f17-214f7bafe888 amiablehermit 2009-05-30T17:17:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#04e4832e-c6cd-4945-bab0-ae7c96e50817 mmm...decent shoes... I totally satisfied my Libra rising yesterday with some fabulous new boots....very practical.. and my Leo moon loved the praise and attention they received.. which gave me the energy to click my heels and ..well.. what can I say but a song and a dance...served my audience beautifully....for a moment anyway.. gave me energy for housework... Sat, 30 May 2009 17:10:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#04e4832e-c6cd-4945-bab0-ae7c96e50817 ~Breeze~ 2009-05-30T17:10:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#76748cf6-03c5-41bd-8d8d-7174a3ae1a86 Don't diss my homeboy Travis, amiablehermit. You maybe dissing him, but in the process you're also making yourself look like a damn fool. Sat, 30 May 2009 17:06:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#76748cf6-03c5-41bd-8d8d-7174a3ae1a86 Manticore 2009-05-30T17:06:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#58badf6f-e875-4278-9d2f-c74bff25828e http://people.tribe.net/a3a7263f-ef1d-4462-9ba6-6376c8bedfc7/photos/f6bfb84b-21e0-4c26-b992-618511ac9880 hope that works Sat, 30 May 2009 17:00:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#58badf6f-e875-4278-9d2f-c74bff25828e ~Breeze~ 2009-05-30T17:00:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4ab23453-212e-4992-b8e4-1e11da1c56e8 That sun/moon-combo sometimes result in maidens resting on sofas & saying stuff like "-Tomorrow, I will do it tomorrow. Or the day after that, if it rains! I want to live in a chateau & have 20 valets & 5 cars! Where´s the remote control & the cookies? Brain-surgery is not that complicated & all it takes to climb Everest is decent shoes! " Sat, 30 May 2009 16:55:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4ab23453-212e-4992-b8e4-1e11da1c56e8 Joakim 2009-05-30T16:55:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9d15dde0-94b6-4529-94b4-45aa1df6e9ca That sounds like an interesting combo. I was looking through your album for your chart (love the Waterhouse paintings, btw), but did not find one. Would you post it? I'd like to see your aspects. Sat, 30 May 2009 16:44:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9d15dde0-94b6-4529-94b4-45aa1df6e9ca amiablehermit 2009-05-30T16:44:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#28e938d4-fe78-4fb3-9b97-f8e5738f97b9 so heelp me if you can.... what would a Leo moon ... 's influence be on Virgo sun....? Leo 11 Virgo 12 ?? perfectly dramatic hopes and dreams.... in secret???!!!!! Sat, 30 May 2009 16:30:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#28e938d4-fe78-4fb3-9b97-f8e5738f97b9 ~Breeze~ 2009-05-30T16:30:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c5230d5f-6b4c-40e4-8fc1-060c6b53f93c Now where were we? Oh yes. I believe I posted last before baby boy started playing in the living room. It was a response to Laux: <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Sat, 30 May 2009 15:54:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c5230d5f-6b4c-40e4-8fc1-060c6b53f93c amiablehermit 2009-05-30T15:54:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#356352be-c028-4353-b250-d5c5e4814efe I think the tiny tyke finally wore himself out an went nite nite. Sweet dreams, little poopskin. Sat, 30 May 2009 15:34:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#356352be-c028-4353-b250-d5c5e4814efe amiablehermit 2009-05-30T15:34:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6463aded-546d-4363-a13b-681797dc59c4 Well, that's the thing, Buttercup. Construction paper is expensive, so I give you tribe text to play with ~ nothing ironic about that at all, Muffinhead. Just responsibly recycling so as to preserve the environment and not be wasteful, and to save a few dollars to get you more transformer toys. Sat, 30 May 2009 15:09:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6463aded-546d-4363-a13b-681797dc59c4 amiablehermit 2009-05-30T15:09:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09fe2ec4-68c2-405f-9cf2-ee488d8944ed Aw, Liebchen ~ everyone who actually knows me knows that I don't like cookies. Or any other sweets for that matter. I like savory. Polly wanna pickle? Sat, 30 May 2009 15:05:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09fe2ec4-68c2-405f-9cf2-ee488d8944ed amiablehermit 2009-05-30T15:05:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bb7760fa-e921-4eb0-884f-ef0c5a70d461 nope, don't care. the color black here, is composed of your words. how ironic. hee hee Sat, 30 May 2009 15:02:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bb7760fa-e921-4eb0-884f-ef0c5a70d461 Flint 2009-05-30T15:02:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#402d7a61-7c38-4609-8b44-09974fdee358 ah. daddy mistreated you and you are punishing him every waking moment of your life. and now we know why you like cookies. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:59:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#402d7a61-7c38-4609-8b44-09974fdee358 Flint 2009-05-30T14:59:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eda0ff47-764f-4e69-b64c-b5acc3215fea Ah, you have become impossibly tedious. I mean, I like trolls as much as the next person, but boring me to death with nonsense gets old. So completely unimaginative. Just like your brand of astrology. Lacking in any insight or creative thinking ~ Moon: all x is x. Sun: all y is y. i totally learned the identity principle. You seem to be stuck there. Not that I expect you to understand what I am talking about. People of your intellectual caliber are seldom found outside of the play pen. If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:54:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eda0ff47-764f-4e69-b64c-b5acc3215fea Flint 2009-05-30T14:54:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#870fc682-4515-40e2-bfe5-37df2d0c83dc looks like your breakfast did not agree with you. course, why should breakfast be the first? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:50:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#870fc682-4515-40e2-bfe5-37df2d0c83dc Flint 2009-05-30T14:50:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3cba3b8b-e7fb-449e-9822-9f272a192259 Heather~ I see you wound up taking the red pill after all. Heather~ I see you wound up taking the red pill after all. Heather~ I am the real Pill, after all. If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:48:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3cba3b8b-e7fb-449e-9822-9f272a192259 Flint 2009-05-30T14:48:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#607d9d58-1026-4d03-aec8-cf0a136f5654 As you can see, baby boy is very fond of the color black. He likes to put that all over his creation. Over and over. And over. We give him newsprint and texts from tribe to use since construction paper gets expensive. He doesn't seem to care. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:45:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#607d9d58-1026-4d03-aec8-cf0a136f5654 amiablehermit 2009-05-30T14:45:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fe644f53-e6db-4f07-a830-f06e430cdbe5 Sure. You can just delete this thread and leave. or, you could just unsub yourself, become a martyr, and If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:44:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fe644f53-e6db-4f07-a830-f06e430cdbe5 Flint 2009-05-30T14:44:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e89145cc-ff90-4e11-9094-5ddaebb46744 snort If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:41:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e89145cc-ff90-4e11-9094-5ddaebb46744 Flint 2009-05-30T14:41:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b4331efd-2fbb-4fab-9261-6519843083b4 You, on the other hand, as has been repeatedly pointed out, can't even screw up enough courage to post a chart ~ not that I would take it as genuine from someone like you. You act as though YOU are the one with something to hide, which I think is the crux of that matter. The typical tactic for someone in your position is to accuse others of that for which you yourself are guilty. That can be easily deduced by a four-year-old, so as a defense tactic, it is highly unimpressive and totally transparent. So I would say that it is clear that you are the manipulative and sly one in this equation, although you are not very clever at any of it. If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:40:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b4331efd-2fbb-4fab-9261-6519843083b4 Flint 2009-05-30T14:40:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b0da6566-b42c-4597-9d82-4c9df494fb7b If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:37:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b0da6566-b42c-4597-9d82-4c9df494fb7b Flint 2009-05-30T14:37:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9116c566-236a-45ab-957f-85c9484328bb If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:36:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9116c566-236a-45ab-957f-85c9484328bb Flint 2009-05-30T14:36:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4073140e-fb93-4e3e-99b5-74e91d94ded2 If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:35:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4073140e-fb93-4e3e-99b5-74e91d94ded2 Flint 2009-05-30T14:35:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bfc1d292-5ee8-4064-9cb2-1dee3988c351 The baby boy is just playing with his construction paper trying to make something creative. This is normal in this phase of development. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:35:10 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bfc1d292-5ee8-4064-9cb2-1dee3988c351 amiablehermit 2009-05-30T14:35:10Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c685c265-1a55-4992-80d5-6fb3b3a155a1 If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:34:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c685c265-1a55-4992-80d5-6fb3b3a155a1 Flint 2009-05-30T14:34:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e79c8cad-7215-45a1-88ce-d343f90b5d8c If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:33:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e79c8cad-7215-45a1-88ce-d343f90b5d8c Flint 2009-05-30T14:33:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9457a2cc-6efc-482d-8e8c-d192463df05f If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:32:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9457a2cc-6efc-482d-8e8c-d192463df05f Flint 2009-05-30T14:32:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0f140b40-9f9c-4705-b8ca-49250ab10940 If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sounds to me like you could use a dose of those better traits of humanity yourself. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:31:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0f140b40-9f9c-4705-b8ca-49250ab10940 Flint 2009-05-30T14:31:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8dc90d1-159e-4ca3-a875-36910b854ead Sugar socks, it sure looks to me like you are the one coming to me rather than the other way around. Do you think everyone is blind, punkin? <shut the fuck up stupid. you had to be snuck INTO the private tribe, i would assume you knew that outsiders cannot see in.> "shut the fuck up stupid" is one of your expressions of endearment. I am so touched. Pussy cat, I was not "snuck" (proper word is actually "sneaked") into a private tribe. You have to be invited. If you are invited, honeywhiskers, you are not "sneaked." "i would assume you knew that outsiders cannot see in" What is this supposed to mean, tootsie pop? If you are a member of a private tribe, you can see what's going on, if not, you can't ~ so what, Booboobear? <but, you knew. its just the start of another day of you monopolizing the visual flow, and making it all about you. like you do everywhere you go. it is impossible for you to not talk to me. you were so neglected as a child, that you would persist in hundreds of responses to someone who hates you - cause you need the attention to..... feel, or feel loved. -- just to feel something - other than that - lonely and void space inside yourself. When i don't hate ya, i pity ya. Now follow your script and invent another reason to keep talking to me.> This is just babble, lamp chop. Time to take your blankey and have a nice nap so you get over being cranky. That happens when little snookies get overtired after a long day and night of playing in the sandbox. Don't forget your binky. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:28:29 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8dc90d1-159e-4ca3-a875-36910b854ead amiablehermit 2009-05-30T14:28:29Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b5587d41-d3b6-4a7e-b86d-9c7d649e9308 WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:23:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b5587d41-d3b6-4a7e-b86d-9c7d649e9308 Flint 2009-05-30T14:23:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#427a5c39-0d00-4066-a2d1-056b63e269ce Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:19:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#427a5c39-0d00-4066-a2d1-056b63e269ce Flint 2009-05-30T14:19:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#846c9724-547f-4330-b9ce-106f8a404ece But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:15:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#846c9724-547f-4330-b9ce-106f8a404ece Flint 2009-05-30T14:15:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a5bcf7cd-f767-421a-bc63-70be193e8616 shut the fuck up stupid. you had to be snuck INTO the private tribe, i would assume you knew that outsiders cannot see in. no one has to hunt you down - you insinuate yourself into every tribe possible. Its mearly nessisary to click on any thread, and you are sure to be there, waiting for me to validate your existence once again. and when i don't, you find me to provoke an attack. you need to see yourself making noise to feel alive. but, you knew. its just the start of another day of you monopolizing the visual flow, and making it all about you. like you do everywhere you go. it is impossible for you to not talk to me. you were so neglected as a child, that you would persist in hundreds of responses to someone who hates you - cause you need the attention to..... feel, or feel loved. -- just to feel something - other than that - lonely and void space inside yourself. When i don't hate ya, i pity ya. Now follow your script and invent another reason to keep talking to me. Sat, 30 May 2009 14:02:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a5bcf7cd-f767-421a-bc63-70be193e8616 Flint 2009-05-30T14:02:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#97455e7e-bd00-4468-8db2-98c3e5f9aa7a Oh, I see "leaving a tribe" now means no peeking at posts. Paidia and patrick responded to me, as I am sure you know. Paidia is a friend of yours in RL, and I am sure you know patrick much better than I. If you want to know what was said, ask them. You don't need to hunt me out on another tribe for that information. Sat, 30 May 2009 13:36:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#97455e7e-bd00-4468-8db2-98c3e5f9aa7a amiablehermit 2009-05-30T13:36:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#48cb956f-9df2-412e-8462-ca1c1c87a258 Good point, Joakim :-) Sat, 30 May 2009 11:32:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#48cb956f-9df2-412e-8462-ca1c1c87a258 Unsubconscious 2009-05-30T11:32:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e5872e97-0c39-4c67-a905-68eeefcb9033 'Joakim reminds me of someone else who posts here. If I was a more cynical person, I'd have said that Joakim was an alt. But i'm not that cynical luckily." You know what? I really don't think Joakim is an alt. He has been around quite some time actually. I may be wrong, but i don't think so. He doesn't have a profile pic or friends, but i actually do vouch for him. I love it when he is conversationally frisky, he has quite a wit. I do beleive i was only able to insult him once, he is immune to travis stings. Sat, 30 May 2009 11:02:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e5872e97-0c39-4c67-a905-68eeefcb9033 Flint 2009-05-30T11:02:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#916e6308-0e5a-490c-9fc7-d6aa66712aeb Moon influence on a sun-sign is said to be whatever the moon has in common with that specific sun, those character-traits become more underlined (meaning: a Cap moon can be a lot of very different things, just because it perhaps make rams even more interested in ruling things the effect with fish-fingers or crabs can be something else...) Sat, 30 May 2009 10:48:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#916e6308-0e5a-490c-9fc7-d6aa66712aeb Joakim 2009-05-30T10:48:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1c523323-89de-4b8c-bd50-f21abb17513b 'You didn't leave at all. Your icon was still very much alive the whole time ~ no unsub.'' duh, duh, duh. your attention span equals that of a springer spaniel. i said i left a tribe, not un subbed. At any rate - i thot they were your friends too. Now its 'your friends'? If that is the case, then you did come back in there to be a bitch, and have no regard for the other people there. Talk about snow job. yeah- they are my friends. Be nice to them or walk the other way. or suffer the consequences. moths that fly into a candles flame just get burned. Sat, 30 May 2009 09:45:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1c523323-89de-4b8c-bd50-f21abb17513b Flint 2009-05-30T09:45:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#433700fd-a218-49cc-bd8a-d195100f6283 Re: capricorn moons want power? <Can cap moon boss scorp stellium around?> Apparently, when the scorp stellium isn't supporting much else of substance. You really don't make it too hard, you know. You just don't get a hint, do you? Even in the form of a pie in your face. Well, most of us have moved on to the Coffee thread now. Good luck with your anti-Cap Moon campaign. Have an espresso on me. You probably could use a jolt of caffeine to jump start your brain. <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:18:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#433700fd-a218-49cc-bd8a-d195100f6283 Flint 2009-05-29T09:18:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d6744163-fa01-47ac-ad55-49d25b80afd9 It is really difficult to watch you turn into such a train wreck. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:18:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d6744163-fa01-47ac-ad55-49d25b80afd9 amiablehermit 2009-05-29T09:18:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#37b13856-ff79-4c7b-8859-3e2499968d9a You didn't leave at all. Your icon was still very much alive the whole time ~ no unsub. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:17:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#37b13856-ff79-4c7b-8859-3e2499968d9a amiablehermit 2009-05-29T09:17:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#533b15f0-0a53-4cb8-9625-02451c679644 <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:16:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#533b15f0-0a53-4cb8-9625-02451c679644 Flint 2009-05-29T09:16:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bd0b12df-f818-452f-a740-2c8e2d523bad <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:15:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bd0b12df-f818-452f-a740-2c8e2d523bad Flint 2009-05-29T09:15:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a80979e6-6fff-45c8-a858-2553d3acd320 <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:14:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a80979e6-6fff-45c8-a858-2553d3acd320 Flint 2009-05-29T09:14:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ae9f9b00-b65e-47ee-9aaa-8602c308a44a <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:14:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ae9f9b00-b65e-47ee-9aaa-8602c308a44a Flint 2009-05-29T09:14:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3ece413-ccfe-44a6-b982-9e408700bb0e <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:13:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3ece413-ccfe-44a6-b982-9e408700bb0e Flint 2009-05-29T09:13:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1dd1ec4e-6c91-4885-8fd4-373e576b269f feel free dear. i said it was time for me to go, with your re-entry. then i went. nothing more. i spoke to no one, nor pm'ed anyone. Whatever you said or did after i left, i have not a clue, as its a private tribe. But whatever it was - it was not done with me, and it was deleted before i was asked to come on back. So trip out anyway ya want, i have not a clue what was said, so i cannot comment on it. Spin it anyway you want dear. leave the travis unit alone. i do not yap at ya until you make yer rounds with me. Its a shame and a pity really. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:11:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1dd1ec4e-6c91-4885-8fd4-373e576b269f Flint 2009-05-29T09:11:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9ebdeec1-626e-4d24-84cf-61ddb4a448d0 'As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. " THAT is one you are most assuredly wrong on. Fri, 29 May 2009 09:04:29 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9ebdeec1-626e-4d24-84cf-61ddb4a448d0 Flint 2009-05-29T09:04:29Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c6a6fbe4-0c68-4d70-9c46-92ad5a96c7c4 If only your friends could see you now. You have them pretty well snowed. But for how long? Fri, 29 May 2009 09:03:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c6a6fbe4-0c68-4d70-9c46-92ad5a96c7c4 amiablehermit 2009-05-29T09:03:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#98eb2199-ffb1-40dd-98fc-f3f52d3326b4 they are sage words. heed them and speak not directly at the travis unit. i just come in occasionally and rile someone up, or add my two cents. you never shut the fuck up. i at least give everyone here a couple hundred posts before i....insinuate and slither myself into every conversation, because of course, i am so darned important i cannot stand to see a .....gap in the visual flow of my moth icon across the landscape of anything said by anybody. so blah blah blah, whatever you are compelled to - its important to hear and see yourself at all times. And we so need it too. I am short and to the point, you are consistently a mean minded shit mixer that never stops here at all, and never- NEVER- gives her CAPTIVE audience a break, visually or verbally. ever. at least there is one tribe i can go to that i dont have to hear and see your crap. you need a safe place to talk to...why yourself, of course. unless sherpa claims ya. i can feel the love already. in fact, you only argue, and talk baby talk. so lala lala now. What comment must you leave, to prove you are compulsive and unable to actually walk another direction? Fri, 29 May 2009 08:59:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#98eb2199-ffb1-40dd-98fc-f3f52d3326b4 Flint 2009-05-29T08:59:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50426af4-19dd-452d-8b27-1274c416702c Thank you for your sage words, Travis. As an active member of the astrology tribe known for always keeping his cool and speaking with decorum, your comment is particularly appreciated. Fri, 29 May 2009 05:00:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50426af4-19dd-452d-8b27-1274c416702c amiablehermit 2009-05-29T05:00:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a8e2da2f-e244-4a94-9ceb-b4f80b99a9a5 <Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are.> Laux, that was a joke phrased very deliberately to make a point about shallowness. If you knew me in RL, you would know that I am not very dramatic at all. Here, it may appear otherwise, but the fact is that I actually come across more as a Virgo than as a Leo to the majority of people who know me. With a 12H Leo Sun conj Pluto and 12H Virgo Jupiter conj Asc and 1H Virgo Mercury ~ and that whole little list Paul drew up for you to show the aspects I have that address the accusation of my being "illogical" ~ I am not known for being much of a Leo at all. I had a Scorp boss who suggested I become a technical librarian for God's sake. I can also point out any number of other ways in which I more or less defy any stereotyping. Which is actually my point to you. You have to consider that just because someone has a particular aspect, such as a Capricorn Moon, you cannot make categorical statements about their motivations or experiences or attitudes without considering that other parts of the chart may mitigate all standard interpretations of that aspect in such a way that a standard interpretation will not apply. As for my being a hate monger, I was actually serious when I said to Jessica that she could figure that we are seriously joking here. To say that I incite hatred I think is very hyperbolic. Snarkiness, yes; hatred, no. And I admit that I have a snarky streak ~ how could I not when I am clearly being snarky? It would be interesting to see where you would find that in my chart, although I put a lot of credit on the Venus & Mars transit in Aries right now and on T Uranus sitting on my natal Mars opposing my natal Mercury and Saturn. That looks like a prescription for snarkiness to me. In truth, it is more the way in which you present your views that feels like sandpaper or sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me ~ what comes through as gross stereotyping and dismissal of contrary data as somehow a delusion or self-deception. You insult people with that sort of self-justification of your own shallow view. You say that all aspects in a chart contribute to describing a person's personality, but you insist on focusing on one aspect in one particular sign and do not even consider House placement, and then accuse people of lying when they say that your view doesn't fit them. How could this fit anyone? Your recalcitrant attitude about this is what has been setting some people off. Instead of being open to looking more closely at what might possibly mitigate the standard attributions of a Capricorn Moon, you insist on pressing those standard attributions and will look no further. This does not communicate an open-minded attitude nor one that is particularly interested in anything except insisting on the validity of your own insular view. A desire for power and superiority many not at all be what a Capricorn Moon is actually about ~ not even as compensation for vulnerability. It just as easily could be a native sense of Stoicism about emotion combined with a work ethic that is misinterpreted as a desire for power because it comes across as aloof, yet industrious. But I don't see you entertaining that possibility. I see you doing something else entirely. Fri, 29 May 2009 04:57:29 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a8e2da2f-e244-4a94-9ceb-b4f80b99a9a5 amiablehermit 2009-05-29T04:57:29Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0f630339-dd00-4f4e-b201-339d324357e1 there is really nothing to apologize for. 500+ posts later- its the same thread. now its called many different things, but really, with the exception of a few earnest posters, that both know what they are doing - and make a point of having limited conversations - because- because- because it turns into the same discussion had with the same people (altho the insane ol nut has outdone herself yet again), attacking each other in the same ways, with the same subjects, just the title of the thread changes - only its been done so damned much, that all the characters in the dramatic exposition just change places and positions, and go at it more. If not until now, this 'thread' confirms (with all the cast snoot noses and experts) to all outsiders that astrology is just so much bullshit. But no one is hear to actually co learn speak astrology, or if they are, they are chased out in the first 30 posts. which means like- 15 minutes. Except for three or four people hear, nothing is ever spoken about in a 'user friendly' way. Its a shame the ones who can relate and teach - only use this forum to pat themselves on the back, rather than helping 'route traffic' - which like i say, is a shame, considering most of the data is very good quality. But then, you will nitpik someone on a degree or two within the realms of a discussion. Making that good quality data non remarkable in the overall flow of the small 500 post threads...... then ya got the one that just must comprise at least 30-40% of the total conversation, every thread, every subject, every time. Schizophrenia - alive and well. Fri, 29 May 2009 04:44:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0f630339-dd00-4f4e-b201-339d324357e1 Flint 2009-05-29T04:44:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#87124369-4f41-44ca-8e33-3ca54c07737f The original post was definitely not intended to get rid of unresolved personal stuff since I get along with cap moons alright. All cap moons around me are different, but some behaviors that I see in these cap moon folks made me ask whether the motives behind came down to power or superiority; for example a cap moon picking on gf’s nose shape, another’s daily self-praise, or another cap moon’s critical remarks and cold preach on others. That’s why I raised the question here. Whether cap moons want power/feel superior or not, the initial angry reaction and the aggressive urge to silence me –instead of reasonable disagreement-- came to me as a shock and made me question if there is something to it, maybe something ugly and hidden. Of course, lots of commotion is fueled up by the Amiablehermit the hatred inciter. Every planet, house, aspect contributes something to a person’s personality. For example, when Amiablehermit said, ” everybody knows how dramatic Leos are,” she was telling us how leos are. Everyone’s personality is made of different layers and different parts, each part might be obscured or enhanced by other chart aspect, but it is there, however differently it is expressed. Perhaps some people don’t agree cap moons want power, their disagreement is welcomed on this thread. The thread starts out as a friendly discussion, but a few people’s mobster way of trying to silence insightful voices has gotten too far. Perhaps it triggered my scorp stellium’s need to excavate the darkness and weakness in these people; this might have led to some discomfort for others, for which I apologize. Fri, 29 May 2009 03:47:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#87124369-4f41-44ca-8e33-3ca54c07737f Laux 2009-05-29T03:47:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3b08d2f7-438d-4c52-b151-a9a8cd693b22 I don't understand why some call unsubscribed a troll. hell I know I haven't been here long, but from what I've read from him he doesn't give me a troll vibe. maybe I shouldn't comment... but it's a blue moon here.. Fri, 29 May 2009 01:37:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3b08d2f7-438d-4c52-b151-a9a8cd693b22 Jessica 2009-05-29T01:37:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e07f55e5-51fb-4887-ba70-1a8b03810174 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojpbOJjrGBQ Where is the Love? Fri, 29 May 2009 01:25:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e07f55e5-51fb-4887-ba70-1a8b03810174 ~FaF~ 2009-05-29T01:25:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#58f70c93-abd2-4272-b19a-cfda76b342ec <<Sherpa, although I agree with every single word you posted here, it's pretty obvious this thread - now almost reaching 500 posts, yet devoid of any 'astrological wisdom other than some plagiarized polarizations - is not a friendly misunderstanding between 'shortsighted astrologers'. >> Correct. It reads more like a cacaphony of misunderstandings between 'shortsighted people'. I think it is a common and regretful behavior for some who have lost a sense of perspective in their own lives to become compulsively entangled in trivial arguments with, and character attacks on, others they don't know from adam. The horror, the horror...the humanity... Fri, 29 May 2009 00:32:59 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#58f70c93-abd2-4272-b19a-cfda76b342ec sherpa 2009-05-29T00:32:59Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c43d160f-2aaa-44de-a3cd-5b3f8f9f873c Perhaps the taming of the Wild West ~ or not. Thu, 28 May 2009 23:07:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c43d160f-2aaa-44de-a3cd-5b3f8f9f873c amiablehermit 2009-05-28T23:07:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2c8ac249-3b29-458f-9612-9a8893d569db >>Don't know if you've noticed this yet or not but astrologers often contradict each other; in this tribe, we can see how common this is. I think this is due, in part, to the conflicting biases and belief systems informing each astrologer's interpretations. This is why I don't consider astrology an exact science but more like a language and/or an art. You can ask ten astrologers to interpret the same chart and get a wild variety of different translations, alongside parallels and similar comments thanks to certain basic agreements hammered down by textbook astrology. The thing to watch out for is the astrologer who stridently assumes their interpretation to be the right one for everyone else. These are the expert idiots who have confused their truth for universals and are still asleep to the notion that all perceptions are gambles. Some gambles pay off big and some lose big but they're all gambles to me.<< Sherpa, although I agree with every single word you posted here, it's pretty obvious this thread - now almost reaching 500 posts, yet devoid of any 'astrological wisdom other than some plagiarized polarizations - is not a friendly misunderstanding between 'shortsighted astrologers'. Anyone having even a hint of a knack for astrological interpretation is highly dependent on that elusive trait know as intuition, which before anything else grants us the abillity to read between the lines, to submerge... Well, after doing some reading, there is no doubt: this is not about astrology at all. This all started as someones foolhardy attempt to get rid of some unresolved personal stuff, by projecting their own issues upon those with 'Moon in Cap', who was then joined by the 'usual suspects' to feast upon the negativity that will necessary flow from such narrowminded and bigotted assumptions. This sort of behaviour has been going on for months now and I fear it hasn't burned up yet - I am curious what will follow. The further degradation and final collapse of this tribe or perhaps something else, something stranger still. Thu, 28 May 2009 22:52:29 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2c8ac249-3b29-458f-9612-9a8893d569db Dion 2009-05-28T22:52:29Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cc92131c-b3f1-44f5-a6d8-8edc77d5c9e7 Ahahahaha, FaF! Thu, 28 May 2009 21:03:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cc92131c-b3f1-44f5-a6d8-8edc77d5c9e7 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T21:03:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b5242041-f63e-4f08-ae70-3c927c434b33 some sort of Scorpionic Wild West.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaX4ApC_EU Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b5242041-f63e-4f08-ae70-3c927c434b33 ~FaF~ 2009-05-28T20:52:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7c7b104e-a4f9-44f4-99d3-66ca060f5707 whatever gets us through the night, i say... Thu, 28 May 2009 20:45:17 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7c7b104e-a4f9-44f4-99d3-66ca060f5707 sherpa 2009-05-28T20:45:17Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b123fde0-aaa6-4553-9c88-8e454064c9dd Yes. I find the subtler forms more effective. None of this no chart, multiple alt, lurking in the shadows business. That only attracts attention, usually of the suspicious variety. Best to hide in plain view. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:43:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b123fde0-aaa6-4553-9c88-8e454064c9dd amiablehermit 2009-05-28T20:43:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#272e00b2-6ce1-4110-b63d-f877438c0ab2 Obscurity yeah, I'm in on that. Camoflauge is what I like to call it. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:24:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#272e00b2-6ce1-4110-b63d-f877438c0ab2 sherpa 2009-05-28T20:24:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cf9dc292-6f5e-4b62-933d-76cade97d848 Eh, some like a little obscurity. Keeps folks guessing, which is good for a gun slinger. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:18:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cf9dc292-6f5e-4b62-933d-76cade97d848 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T20:18:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5923695b-1259-4e95-be28-0e9094042b72 Good one! Thu, 28 May 2009 20:17:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5923695b-1259-4e95-be28-0e9094042b72 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T20:17:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e61ffb6-bd81-43f3-b356-acdfbda3ae34 <<Well, everybody knows how dramatic Leos are.>> yes and that drama sometimes obscure how intelligent Leos truly are. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:14:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e61ffb6-bd81-43f3-b356-acdfbda3ae34 sherpa 2009-05-28T20:14:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9cb925b0-006c-4b78-9588-03a04811ca05 <To me, the purpose of such posts (and they proliferate this tribe) is for others like yourself to expose the dogma and hopefully in such a way that doesn't attack the human attached to the dog... which can be an art in itself..LOL.. > Well, everybody knows how dramatic Leos are. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:12:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9cb925b0-006c-4b78-9588-03a04811ca05 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T20:12:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4a336fe9-7bd7-4262-9c58-873f39b2cf95 olde skool wild west http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzY6KZuLUo Thu, 28 May 2009 20:10:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4a336fe9-7bd7-4262-9c58-873f39b2cf95 sherpa 2009-05-28T20:10:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0c361d68-4f1b-4fbd-9fda-c623e8bb3ca4 LOL, Jessica. I had more like Marty Robbins doing Big Iron on His Hip in my mind, but, Bon Jovi works for me. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:10:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0c361d68-4f1b-4fbd-9fda-c623e8bb3ca4 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T20:10:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0352ef68-68c5-44b7-acb9-c2735486db8f <<So, for example, to say that all people with Capricorn Moons (that is all that is taken into consideration) are thus and such and feel thus and such and act in thus and such a way is not only unhelpful, but in this case where condescending remarks are made in conjunction with these appraisals, downright insulting. >> To me, the purpose of such posts (and they proliferate this tribe) is for others like yourself to expose the dogma and hopefully in such a way that doesn't attack the human attached to the dog... which can be an art in itself..LOL.. Often times when people are first learning astrology, there can be this underlying enthusiasm prone to generalizations and the promise of personal righteousness. For me, the purpose of astrology is not to prove anyone right or wrong but to enable more honest communications than perhaps mundane language can afford. When communications fail, so does the language of astrology. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:06:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0352ef68-68c5-44b7-acb9-c2735486db8f sherpa 2009-05-28T20:06:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eb1ae2f5-9729-4782-8a42-77377db67548 oops that was supposed to be in reply to amiable.... dunno you were talking of cowboys and such...for some reason this song was stuck in my head. Thu, 28 May 2009 20:02:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eb1ae2f5-9729-4782-8a42-77377db67548 Jessica 2009-05-28T20:02:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c4861a95-8d41-414e-a5e1-21ec3b29a6c5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99h5aikc4g Thu, 28 May 2009 20:00:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c4861a95-8d41-414e-a5e1-21ec3b29a6c5 Jessica 2009-05-28T20:00:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b50a50dd-7d95-473c-9a2f-8180204fe99f sherpa ~ <Don't know if you've noticed this yet or not but astrologers often contradict each other; in this tribe, we can see how common this is> Of course. And that is expected, or at least I expect it. And as I have said before, I view astrology as a metaphoric language and believe as you do that it is an interpretative art. But this is what I believe people are seeing from both Laux and Unsubconscious that is tweaking the irritation on this thread: <The thing to watch out for is the astrologer who stridently assumes their interpretation to be the right one for everyone else. These are the expert idiots who have confused their truth for universals and are still asleep to the notion that all perceptions are gambles.> So, for example, to say that all people with Capricorn Moons (that is all that is taken into consideration) are thus and such and feel thus and such and act in thus and such a way is not only unhelpful, but in this case where condescending remarks are made in conjunction with these appraisals, downright insulting. Thu, 28 May 2009 19:56:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b50a50dd-7d95-473c-9a2f-8180204fe99f amiablehermit 2009-05-28T19:56:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e3b4c5fd-47c2-47e7-9fea-9e20d54884b6 <<There is also some sound astrological knowledge in contradiction to some of those posts. >> Don't know if you've noticed this yet or not but astrologers often contradict each other; in this tribe, we can see how common this is. I think this is due, in part, to the conflicting biases and belief systems informing each astrologer's interpretations. This is why I don't consider astrology an exact science but more like a language and/or an art. You can ask ten astrologers to interpret the same chart and get a wild variety of different translations, alongside parallels and similar comments thanks to certain basic agreements hammered down by textbook astrology. The thing to watch out for is the astrologer who stridently assumes their interpretation to be the right one for everyone else. These are the expert idiots who have confused their truth for universals and are still asleep to the notion that all perceptions are gambles. Some gambles pay off big and some lose big but they're all gambles to me. Thu, 28 May 2009 19:45:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e3b4c5fd-47c2-47e7-9fea-9e20d54884b6 sherpa 2009-05-28T19:45:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#57118800-8fb9-4d34-90e3-1fda7568b46f nice perspective... in my perception... now to rest my weary lil head nighty nights ~xo Thu, 28 May 2009 19:35:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#57118800-8fb9-4d34-90e3-1fda7568b46f ~Breeze~ 2009-05-28T19:35:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8ba0389-f350-4ea3-81c9-0781c18d94b6 I keep thinking Unsubconcious/Unsubscribed is just playing devil's advocate, perhaps writing a play with threads like these for inspiration. The repetition of the word "whatshowever" seems to imply that there is indeed no malefic intentions, just fanning the flames for dramatic effect or something... Thu, 28 May 2009 19:16:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8ba0389-f350-4ea3-81c9-0781c18d94b6 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T19:16:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d4ec629c-8f87-4d83-b829-022bf5e6a58d There is also some sound astrological knowledge in contradiction to some of those posts. And perhaps if this person would post a chart and be more upfront he wouldn't be confused with a troll. As the alt of God, it would be nice to know who God is. Thu, 28 May 2009 19:16:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d4ec629c-8f87-4d83-b829-022bf5e6a58d amiablehermit 2009-05-28T19:16:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5c0fc26e-5ea4-42cb-b1d9-ffe7c1c01400 Unsubscribed is not a troll. Though his/her messages may be misunderstood and somewhat cryptic at times, I have actually found sound astrological knowledge in those posts that have not been tainted by unnecessary defensiveness. Thu, 28 May 2009 19:07:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5c0fc26e-5ea4-42cb-b1d9-ffe7c1c01400 sherpa 2009-05-28T19:07:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2d500582-335a-415c-8e34-383431320e31 how tiring was that... and all I really noticed were three very antagonised mentioning "alt" evolution processing itself Thu, 28 May 2009 18:52:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2d500582-335a-415c-8e34-383431320e31 ~Breeze~ 2009-05-28T18:52:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#29100207-c708-4cf6-8b0c-ef63d4b28e22 <I don’t understand why some people turn so bitter and aggressive when someone’s sincere answer doesn’t match their own self-deceiving self-image.> How do you possibly know that the self-image is self-deceiving? Because you are going by your own biased view without even having this aspect rather than the sincere assessments of self that you dismiss automatically? Your language is accusatory and bigoted. Why would anyone listen to you? <And Unsubscribed gave you his sincere answer with good intention.> That is your opinion. I also recall the swamp creature discussing an astrologer's view of this Moon as though it were a reference, only to admit that it wasn't a reference at all. That is misleading at the very least. I don't have a Moon in Capricorn, but I am insulted by yours and Unsubconscious's answers, as I think a number of people here have been and still are. And, hey, I am happy to give trolls grief when they give other people grief. No problem. Thu, 28 May 2009 18:41:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#29100207-c708-4cf6-8b0c-ef63d4b28e22 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T18:41:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fc120410-cbae-4f0d-bcce-0096a932b52b "...serpent like liar doesn’t make me dislike the entire goat clan" Where have I lied? Can you prove it? Oh, that's right, you're a ditz... "Are you trying to divert people’s attention from your deceit to my love life or to my typo and sentence? Does playing English teacher here elevate you from your underground serpent place where you play dirty mind-game?" Someone once said that communication is only possible between equals. Just trying to make it more interesting for myself. I hate to read your stilted sentences when there was so much potential in what you were trying to say. But yeah, it's a dirty mind game. You have the dirty mind and I'm playing the games. Thu, 28 May 2009 18:25:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fc120410-cbae-4f0d-bcce-0096a932b52b $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T18:25:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#12651154-3698-421c-91d0-29f8dea7a250 ditto.... freaky shit slingin Thu, 28 May 2009 18:21:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#12651154-3698-421c-91d0-29f8dea7a250 ~Breeze~ 2009-05-28T18:21:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4fdd9a5a-fb7d-4845-847f-5561793bb692 Yup, you're a real pistol with that deep insight of yours. Glad to have you back in the discussion, Laux. At this point, the gloves are off. I've been labelled as just about every monster I can think of, and then your knight Unsubconscious went for my mom! "This is what I was talking about. People get insulted when their answer deviates from cap moon self-image. Of Course with Amiablehermit the hatred-inciter’s braying along, you have gotten more courage to vent your anger on innocent folks." You would be insulted too if you were me. What if I started insisting that your mother was only 10 cents and gave bad head? Get off your high horse! You're embarrassing, and saying that Amiable is inciting hate is a hilarious projection. Innocent? Ha fucking ha ha ha! Look, Laux, you're no fun. You can keep it coming and I'll continue burying you with or without the help of the other people here who use their brains. This is only an exercise in sophistry for me, and you probably have to look up what that means. Thu, 28 May 2009 18:15:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4fdd9a5a-fb7d-4845-847f-5561793bb692 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T18:15:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6ab00797-91e2-4bbf-aeaa-ce58b7eff865 And Unsubscribed gave you his sincere answer with good intention. Here is your reaction: “Unsubscribed bitter coward. If you're going to be a joke, at least be funny,” “You are pretty transparent... Just fuck off and leave me alone. Leave everyone else alone for that matter.” ” How does it feel up there on your cross? Can dish it out but you can't take it, eh? ” "If this specimen were to set up shop as some psychiatrist-psychic-astrologer, I'm sure he'll really touch hearts and change lives with that whole "yo mama" thing he does. Truly brilliant. " This is what I was talking about. People get insulted when their answer deviates from cap moon self-image. Of Course with Amiablehermit the hatred-inciter’s braying along, you have gotten more courage to vent your anger on innocent folks. Thu, 28 May 2009 18:02:25 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6ab00797-91e2-4bbf-aeaa-ce58b7eff865 Laux 2009-05-28T18:02:25Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e47c0375-58bb-47a5-a249-c22aad3bacfb I don’t understand why some people turn so bitter and aggressive when someone’s sincere answer doesn’t match their own self-deceiving self-image. Brendan you first asked Unsubscribed, “All that stuff about "Hades moon" is Greek to me. Please refer me to your sources on Hades Moons, etc. I've never explored that line of Astrology. Be assured that I'd really follow up and study what you're talking about.” And Unsubscribed gave you his sincere answer with good intention. Here is your reaction: “Unsubscribed bitter coward. If you're going to be a joke, at least be funny,” “You are pretty transparent... Just fuck off and leave me alone. Leave everyone else alone for that matter.” ” How does it feel up there on your cross? Can dish it out but you can't take it, eh? ” If this specimen were to set up shop as some psychiatrist-psychic-astrologer, I'm sure he'll really touch hearts and change lives with that whole "yo mama" thing he does. Truly brilliant. This is what I was talking about. People get insulted when their answer deviates from cap moon self-image. Of Course with Amiablehermit the hatred-inciter’s braying along, you have gotten more courage to vent your anger on innocent folks. Thu, 28 May 2009 17:57:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e47c0375-58bb-47a5-a249-c22aad3bacfb Laux 2009-05-28T17:57:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f6aad784-7c39-4c9a-80d2-33961f7f94e7 The line starts right here. Thu, 28 May 2009 17:57:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f6aad784-7c39-4c9a-80d2-33961f7f94e7 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T17:57:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d4daa95e-1cc8-4878-8369-37fdde13821d Oh good. The thought of "Unsubconscious" being able to write prescriptions was unsettling to say the least. Where do I sign up for the Unsubconscious cybersucker psychotherapy experience? I'd like to make myself a client... I can even refer some folks over to him who are brilliant psychotherapists/psychologists who need a good laugh. Thu, 28 May 2009 17:52:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d4daa95e-1cc8-4878-8369-37fdde13821d $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T17:52:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#871fdc0f-2f69-47e5-8408-2add6f98e868 Unsubscribed swamp creature has now changed name to Unsubconscious. Developing the alt, it seems. It is not real, so no one is paying anything for it. Just luring cybersuckers to get the respect that cannot be gained through straight posting. Thu, 28 May 2009 17:40:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#871fdc0f-2f69-47e5-8408-2add6f98e868 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T17:40:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f56a0d0f-1d4b-4401-b35f-d18d17484c55 Even worse that people will pay money to believe it! It's criminal. What if Bozo the Unsubscribed Clown gets a client that reminds him/her of the ex-spouse? It doesn't seem like they'd receive fair treatment. I'd even venture a guess that Unsubscribed would use the position to dominate and manipulate some clients in revenge for what his/her ex-spouse put them through. Unsubscribed reminds me of the lucid words of the illustrious jakejake: Just another motherf*cker Who'll be up against the wall When the revolution comes Thu, 28 May 2009 17:28:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f56a0d0f-1d4b-4401-b35f-d18d17484c55 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T17:28:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#922d543b-afa4-4305-bac8-0ac9c9add902 Just became "an ordinary psychotherapist" is seems. Man some people will say anything. The bad part is that there are people that will believe it. Thu, 28 May 2009 17:21:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#922d543b-afa4-4305-bac8-0ac9c9add902 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T17:21:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#387d386b-b0a4-4dee-86da-798ad634e0ba "I think it is better than that. Apparently our pal is saying that she/he's studying to be a psychiatrist and is also a psychic. LOL!" If this specimen were to set up shop as some psychiatrist-psychic-astrologer, I'm sure he'll really touch hearts and change lives with that whole "yo mama" thing he does. Truly brilliant. Thu, 28 May 2009 17:11:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#387d386b-b0a4-4dee-86da-798ad634e0ba $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T17:11:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1da954d6-db27-42a0-bb4e-7be2ba185f41 "Pluto reveals himself only in layers." Wow, a point without any venom? Unsubscribed, you're so cute when you're on the defensive! It's, dare I say, almost like you're human. YOU only reveal yourself in layers. Thu, 28 May 2009 16:56:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1da954d6-db27-42a0-bb4e-7be2ba185f41 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T16:56:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#be4f1013-9fa5-401e-ba36-2adce8c3622c <Are you trying to convince us that you're a nice person? Maybe you need to convince yourself?> I think it is better than that. Apparently our pal is saying that she/he's studying to be a psychiatrist and is also a psychic. LOL! Thu, 28 May 2009 16:49:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#be4f1013-9fa5-401e-ba36-2adce8c3622c amiablehermit 2009-05-28T16:49:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fd16c314-14a4-4363-aa6d-182f1fe18d7c "I was asked what I knew about the Hades moon. I answered that question to my best knowledge and with the best of my intentions. I was not asked anything else." How does it feel up there on your cross? Can dish it out but you can't take it, eh? Are you trying to convince us that you're a nice person? Maybe you need to convince yourself? Thu, 28 May 2009 16:43:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fd16c314-14a4-4363-aa6d-182f1fe18d7c $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T16:43:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d95ddd4e-8e13-418d-9476-e561148315c1 Paul, Thanks for clarifying your interpretation of the kite. I suppose it boils down to one's definition of what they are looking to as "focal point"...I can see where either interpretation would be valid, depending on, where we focus. : ) I once lived an a boat named "Focus"...it is now named "RIpple".... Thu, 28 May 2009 16:19:29 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d95ddd4e-8e13-418d-9476-e561148315c1 ~FaF~ 2009-05-28T16:19:29Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bada5756-a63a-4b79-b08c-920d62fa41c2 "I am of the opinion that there are NO 'bad' aspects, signs, houses etc. They are merely different. Bad is VERY subjective and although astrologers very often don't use the bad so bluntly, they connotate that certain signs/houses/aspects are more intrinsically bad than others by not focusing on the positive. Any astrologer who is unable to see the positive to any aspect whatsoever, is missing a very important tool for their trade and in short are not good astrologers. I do not think this is true of you necessarily, as I actually have very little interaction with you, apart from reading the odd comment. However it is a slippery slope, if you only focus on the negative then you are not doing the aspect/sign etc or the 'client' any favours." As an example, when I was 17/18 and still only learning astrology, I went to an astrologer in London. He looked at my chart and tutted. Then he looked at me and sighed and told me that I was tortured in a previous life, as seen by my first house SN in Scorpio, and that there was also the implication that in a previous life I was a torturer myself, because there is after all, a lot of scorpio influences there. There was a high probability that I raped someone or was raped myself in a previous life which is why I have such an insatiable sex drive (bare in mind I never opened my mouth to him). He then said that as a Gemini I would be probably very emotionally fickle but that this is just to hide my much deeper pathological need for emotional domination of others. With my Pluto opposition Venus it's very likely that I will be the subject of sexual abuse either in child hood or in prison or a hospital (because of the 12H Pluto) and that this will just set off the cycle of sexual abuse present in my previous lives. you may work with computers (I verified I hoped to be a web designer) he agreed I might be good at that (sun opp Uranus and Moon in Aquar) and that he saw me possibly creating some porn website or site related to war. He was sure that I was in a war in a previous life and suffered horribly in that life and that in a subsequent life I was then the inflicting the suffering but that in this life, there would need to be some balance, but I'd probably go through some of hte themes again, again he highlighted my Venus-Pluto opp as being a possible sexual abuse or some kind of phase of sexual depravity, probably sado-masichism. That was about it. He never really highlighted anything postiive. it totally put my 18ish yr old self off astrology for a while, but at the same time I set out to study it myself to see if these thigns were true. Of course they weren't. He went for the lowest possible denominator and ran with it. No sense of balance at all. Thu, 28 May 2009 12:14:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bada5756-a63a-4b79-b08c-920d62fa41c2 Paul 2009-05-28T12:14:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e53ca133-7a7e-4441-8709-83bec5de0384 Taking my 12H Sun conj Pluto as an example, if this is viewed without regard to my 12H Jupiter in Virgo conj Asc or the squares my Scorpio Saturn has to this conjunction, it is likely to create a different picture than if those aspects are included. My experience of Sun conj Pluto, with no House or anything else considered, is not likely to render much of a realistic view of how this affects me. Thu, 28 May 2009 12:06:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e53ca133-7a7e-4441-8709-83bec5de0384 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T12:06:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#66746726-5958-47da-bf43-4a863e9b07a4 "And I found the pluto moon tribe extremely interesting and helpful as well. " I think it is important to focus on these parts as well. If we only focus on the negative we'll not get the full picture. I am against using astrology as a tool to highlight a person's 'bad' points without also acknowledging the good. I find it happens far too often within astrology and is my personal pet-hate when it comes to various astrologers depicting with doom and gloom any particular aspect. I am of the opinion that there are NO 'bad' aspects, signs, houses etc. They are merely different. Bad is VERY subjective and although astrologers very often don't use the bad so bluntly, they connotate that certain signs/houses/aspects are more intrinsically bad than others by not focusing on the positive. Any astrologer who is unable to see the positive to any aspect whatsoever, is missing a very important tool for their trade and in short are not good astrologers. I do not think this is true of you necessarily, as I actually have very little interaction with you, apart from reading the odd comment. However it is a slippery slope, if you only focus on the negative then you are not doing the aspect/sign etc or the 'client' any favours. So back to the Pluto-Moon example, although it is likely true that this aspect will connotate a stress or tension upon the emotional body it does not necessarily mean that the mother probably did not like you. If you are reading that from this aspect, then you are viewing the aspect through heavily subjectively tinted glasses. The aspect could equally mean that your mother had died protecting your life for example, an extreme but equally valid interpretation. We are not looking at the big picture with this. We do not know the rest of the chart, we do not know the other aspects and regardless of all that, we don't even know the house or sign that this is occurring in. Surely a Pluto in Leo is a very different pluto than when it is in Cancer or Pisces. Either our motivation as astrologers is to look at the chart in a balanced and objective manner in order to help the 'client' understand themselves better, or it is to justify our own biases by searching for them in the chart. If we are to do the former we will look at the positives and negatives equally and offer advice on how to imporove the positives, if we are doing the latter, we will just focus on the negative and make huge leaps to do so. Thu, 28 May 2009 12:06:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#66746726-5958-47da-bf43-4a863e9b07a4 Paul 2009-05-28T12:06:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#84853815-f1fb-4b49-9c41-f0043e481ad3 "The point, marble mind, is that a single, unqualified aspect is not going to give you an accurate picture of what someone actually experiences. I would think that would be common sense for everyone, but perhaps not for you" A blunter example of what I'm saying. Thu, 28 May 2009 11:55:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#84853815-f1fb-4b49-9c41-f0043e481ad3 Paul 2009-05-28T11:55:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1c0145b9-33f2-44e1-b7b9-89e2eee2d868 "By definition, a planet that is connected to deeply hidden stuff, will not immediately reveal all it's contents to the full light of day - otherwise it wouldn't be pluto. I thought you knew a bit of astrology as well and I thought this needed no further explaination" Ok. Allow me to offer another example. It is not fulfilling enough if I were to say about Scorpio that Scorpio is "a light and breezy sign, unemotional and carefree". The Scorpios reading it would say "but that's not me, I'm much deeper and very emotional". It wouldn't be acceptable to just shrug and say "oh well, Scorpio deals with hidden stuff so you just don't realise that you're like this". Does that make more sense? It was an analogy, not particualrly related to any particular sign. THe point being, the only way we can verify astrology is by experience, not just by theory. We cannot make the facts fit the theory, the theory should always fit the facts. Therefore if a lot of people do not relate to this description of Scorpio, we must think to ourselves, perhaps this theory is incorrect, rather than, perhaps these people are wrong. The same is true for Hades Moon or any other aspect. Theories cannot bulldoze facts, the facts bulldoze the theory. If the theory does not reflect the facts, the thing that has to change is theory NOT the facts. It can be a get out to just attribute anything which the person says does not relate by saying "well you secretly are these things, but you just don't know it, but I do". Does that make more sense now? Thu, 28 May 2009 11:53:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1c0145b9-33f2-44e1-b7b9-89e2eee2d868 Paul 2009-05-28T11:53:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a92d4ac9-3c13-44e5-a931-79189db943d5 "The point, marble mind, is that a single, unqualified aspect is not going to give you an accurate picture of what someone actually experiences. I would think that would be common sense for everyone, but perhaps not for you" I was asked what I knew about the Hades moon. I answered that question to my best knowledge and with the best of my intentions. I was not asked anything else. Thu, 28 May 2009 11:35:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a92d4ac9-3c13-44e5-a931-79189db943d5 Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T11:35:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2ad909a9-6359-4b91-86f1-828cd630d29d The point, marble mind, is that a single, unqualified aspect is not going to give you an accurate picture of what someone actually experiences. I would think that would be common sense for everyone, but perhaps not for you Thu, 28 May 2009 11:27:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2ad909a9-6359-4b91-86f1-828cd630d29d amiablehermit 2009-05-28T11:27:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d532000d-8c9b-4baf-836c-729f7d2ba242 Paul, we are not talking about Leo's. We are talking about Pluto aspects and as you may know, Pluto is associated with the underworld, also know as the Hades. By definition, a planet that is connected to deeply hidden stuff, will not immediately reveal all it's contents to the full light of day - otherwise it wouldn't be pluto. I thought you knew a bit of astrology as well and I thought this needed no further explaination. Pluto reveals himself only in layers. That happens with the moon and with any other planets he is touching. I thought that would be common sense for everyone, including you. Thu, 28 May 2009 11:22:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d532000d-8c9b-4baf-836c-729f7d2ba242 Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T11:22:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#964651b4-3a0e-48b7-9363-4bc1eaa02455 "It is very common a Hades moon will sort of hide it's contents." I hope you can understand that this is not really enough. By which I mean I could say that Sun in Leos are incredibly boring and hate excitement and games, and all the Leos will think "me? I love games", it is not productive to simply fall back on "well sun in leo often hides its contents". I think the only way we can tell if these things are true is by using our personal experience. Presumably unless you have this aspect it is unlikely to be fully understandable by yourself, though we can all make theories. Interestingly Judy Hall has this same aspect as myself from what I can make out, she has Pluto Rising with Moon in the 4H. Personally I see the Moon-Pluto aspects as relating to intensity in relations and needs with an undertone of personal transformation, perhaps through crisis. The mother may be a source of great will power and may have instilled the lessons of self-will and empowerment into the child, possibly by hard lessons. There may be a great dispensity toward understanding psychological motivations and an almost psychic ability to see beneath the surface of emotional tension, and with the square particularly, this awareness may not always be an easy cross to carry. Sometimes ignorance of psychological struggle and suffering in others is bliss, but for the moon-pluto square person, they may be painfully aware of the effects of destructive emotions, not necessarily because of their own, but because of a natural empathy that this person will have toward others and the square may be the tension necessary to do some productive about this, such as seriously study psychology and work with the 'dreggs' of society that others have shunned. Moon square Pluto may be the one who works for the benefit of the so called 'untouchables'. No emotion is taboo and this can be a bit of a trial, but with it also comes more acceptance and understanding of painful/unwanted emotions. There may also be a sexual tension with the Moon sq Pluto, either a sexuality issue, or some other form. Again we can't tell for definite, but the aspect speculates that this might be the case, but the details of it won't be implicated. (I could go on, but I hope you get the point) So a Moon-Pluto square might indicate a person's needs and nurturing being transformed in some way - we would need to look at houses and signs and other aspects to find out more. We cannot get the whole picture just from knowing that the two planets form a square. Thu, 28 May 2009 09:46:25 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#964651b4-3a0e-48b7-9363-4bc1eaa02455 Paul 2009-05-28T09:46:25Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#359cb9d4-8738-49da-8d6b-a345ef7177e6 Yeah, you are a victim. I agree. Thu, 28 May 2009 09:32:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#359cb9d4-8738-49da-8d6b-a345ef7177e6 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T09:32:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a0456c1b-c9f6-4cda-b101-88a3e8f33a58 "Paul, Judy Hall's book is about 300 pages and she may or may not say these things, at least I'm not going to check her entire book :-)" In which case it's not Judy Hall's interpretation. Important to distinguish that as from reading your post it sounded like you were aunthenticating your post by transliterating something written by Judy Hall, wheras you were in fact just using your own interpretations, which may have been inspired from her books. Very different thing of course so important to distinguish. Personally I don't see the merit in saying your mother probably didn't like you to anyone, it's a massive assumption and not really backed up astrologically which is why I was surprised a professional astrology writer would have made the assumption. It makes more sense that the assumption isn't necessarily hers, but yours. "Maybe we should talk again within 40 years or so. " Perhaps, but I find it difficult to imagine my mother will suddenly become smothering and manipulative, after all, her years of mothering are behind her now. Thu, 28 May 2009 09:31:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a0456c1b-c9f6-4cda-b101-88a3e8f33a58 Paul 2009-05-28T09:31:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8ab63386-8ee7-4e57-91c6-bd6c31634f9a Brendan, you definitely seem to have a lot of rage within you. It even looks as if you use this whole thread as a welcome excuse to ventilate your rage - full stop. It also looks as if you need my response - no matter what I say - as a licence to ventilate. So I'm no longer going to respond. Like I said before, I had no bad intentions whatshowever, and I feel I don't deserve this out-of-proportions anger in any way. Thu, 28 May 2009 09:29:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8ab63386-8ee7-4e57-91c6-bd6c31634f9a Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T09:29:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7d0ab466-9f6f-4268-b6b2-5b87ad8d1a55 Sounds splendid! But please lead the way. I still feel sort of new 'round these parts... Thu, 28 May 2009 09:13:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7d0ab466-9f6f-4268-b6b2-5b87ad8d1a55 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T09:13:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f269762c-2ac7-4df6-b369-90134289d9f5 Hey, Tex. Wanna get a java at the canteen and then join me in rustling a few vultures? Thu, 28 May 2009 09:09:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f269762c-2ac7-4df6-b369-90134289d9f5 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T09:09:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#df98b817-b816-4252-9dad-26c46b93dabd You are pretty transparent... Just fuck off and leave me alone. Leave everyone else alone for that matter. Play nice. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:58:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#df98b817-b816-4252-9dad-26c46b93dabd $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T08:58:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fd71f8c7-b912-4a89-8cf0-24412bd7fe0b You're the one projecting your issues about other people onto me, ie, you ex-spouse, lol... You wrote a ton of nonsense, so you obviously had some investment in satisfying your urge to vent your frustrations. Are those plutonians too intimidating for you? Again with your cowardice! It's your personal motif! No wonder your marriage didn't work out. You're not quite fully developed emotionally yourself, I think. That explains why you're so quick to expose others false while hiding behind a false, false facade. Yes, you do seem to equate to the typical loser. I truly hope you did not procreate! Did you spawn any children? Dear lord... Thu, 28 May 2009 08:56:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fd71f8c7-b912-4a89-8cf0-24412bd7fe0b $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T08:56:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d13e6b6b-8295-4308-84f6-fb722b5e29cf Once again Brendan, I had no bad intentions whatshowever. If you insist you know my intentions better than I do, please go ahead. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:52:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d13e6b6b-8295-4308-84f6-fb722b5e29cf Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T08:52:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#843fb255-ad81-441a-aadf-1d4291edc1f6 Brendan, you said: "Nothing you said rang any bells, no truth to it at all. You do seem to take pleasure in exposing other people weaknesses, real or imagined. Real great character you got there, champ. You are making pretty stupid assumptions about my mother of all people. I have a lot of other aspects going on in my chart besides my moon, and you seem pretty confident that you know things for facts that are wrong. You don't know me, yet you claim to be so clever in exposing some fantastic imaginary details about me and my family. How low can you go? What a fucking loser!" If you feel there's no truth to it at all, OK, there's no truth to it at all. Then why do you get so upset about some idiot writing complete bullshit? Do you enjoy getting upset over nothing at all, or what? Again, I had no bad intentions. If you cannot accept that, OK, then don't. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:48:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#843fb255-ad81-441a-aadf-1d4291edc1f6 Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T08:48:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9d84ccb9-8163-441d-93bb-c0fa285b223b Aw, poor baby... Projecting your BS onto me now. How mature! What scintillating wisdom! Thu, 28 May 2009 08:47:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9d84ccb9-8163-441d-93bb-c0fa285b223b $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T08:47:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9f9fb185-152c-4525-99b3-e7501fe366ce Paul, Judy Hall's book is about 300 pages and she may or may not say these things, at least I'm not going to check her entire book :-) I've been writing from my personal experiences, including ex-spouse, several close friends & other lovers - in short, people who trust me and share their innermost feelings with me. And I found the pluto moon tribe extremely interesting and helpful as well. About your moon trine pluto: it is very well possible you cannot relate to anything I've written about the Hades moon. It is very common a Hades moon will sort of hide it's contents. If it doesn't resonate, it doesn't resonate. Maybe we should talk again within 40 years or so. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:41:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9f9fb185-152c-4525-99b3-e7501fe366ce Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T08:41:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5d8ea264-b5a6-4982-b871-eb9da1cc7a5d Hey Jessica ~ I think the best bet is to figure that people are seriously joking. I don't know if back in the day there was an actual mod operating here, but those days are long gone and have been for quite a while ~ at least for the almost ten months since I have been here, and I gather that it has been quite a bit longer than that. People here now don't seem to mind this so much that anything is ever done about it, so the tribe just goes on in a zany free-for-all fashion ~ sort of like the Wild West. We have our cattle rustlers and our bandits and our cowboys. The occasional stage coach gets hijacked and we have our share of masked outlaws robbing banks and shooting up the saloon. There are also some duels here at high noon on the dusty street that runs through town, but without a sheriff, we just kind of clean up after ourselves and toss the corpses in holes up on boot hill. (I posted the picture of my Stetson in the tribe album, if you would like to take a look.) Yes, indeed, things have probably changed quite a bit over the years. But look on the bright side ~ complete freedom of expression reigns here. You can bash, insult, troll, flame, hijack, terrorize the school house, steal the cattle and horses and no one will do anything about it, except maybe try to unsub, but as I have found out, the inn here is really Hotel California, so you can try to unsub, but you wind up staying on the list of active members anyway, plumping up the appearance that this tribe is huge, which it really isn't. So feel free to have a whiskey at the saloon and join in the general merriment. But it is good if you carry a sidearm since you never know when old Snake-eye Pete or Billy the Kid is going to show up looking for someone with a Capricorn Moon to call out for a showdown. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:32:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5d8ea264-b5a6-4982-b871-eb9da1cc7a5d amiablehermit 2009-05-28T08:32:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0b4ceb73-7e56-4936-87ce-2e83b10c779b "Why not read it again, Brendan? I did not write my post with bitterness." What about the cowardice I accused you of? You forgot the cowardice. Go back and read it again. You just strike me as a bitter little cutie pie, I suppose. Smooches! But really, keep it coming bigshot alt. I can shoot fish in a barrel all week. You're boring. Can you call someone who can slice me real good? Thu, 28 May 2009 08:28:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0b4ceb73-7e56-4936-87ce-2e83b10c779b $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T08:28:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4f006444-1cc7-4a26-9f38-b592ed85f8ee "In which case I always have a Hades moon - Moon trine Pluto. " one of those mornings. I meant i ALSO have a Hades moon. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:20:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4f006444-1cc7-4a26-9f38-b592ed85f8ee Paul 2009-05-28T08:20:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a071e102-8bf8-441a-8a90-dcf283015370 "A Hades moon is any moon/Pluto connection " In which case I always have a Hades moon - Moon trine Pluto. "The most common experiene is a very manipulative, devouring mother who's craving for ultimate closeness but at the same time rejecting" Is this only with the squre aspect, because that's not my experience of my mother AT ALL. "Most likely she doesn't like anything about you." Is this Judy Hall's interpretation? Or yours? Thu, 28 May 2009 08:17:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a071e102-8bf8-441a-8a90-dcf283015370 Paul 2009-05-28T08:17:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e30119eb-628b-4a78-91de-8a75828ad852 Nothing you said rang any bells, no truth to it at all. You do seem to take pleasure in exposing other people weaknesses, real or imagined. Real great character you got there, champ. You are making pretty stupid assumptions about my mother of all people. I have a lot of other aspects going on in my chart besides my moon, and you seem pretty confident that you know things for facts that are wrong. You don't know me, yet you claim to be so clever in exposing some fantastic imaginary details about me and my family. How low can you go? What a fucking loser! Thu, 28 May 2009 08:04:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e30119eb-628b-4a78-91de-8a75828ad852 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T08:04:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a253de2e-458b-48cd-bd72-6ef69eac2ab9 Heather ~ I see you wound up taking the red pill after all. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:04:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a253de2e-458b-48cd-bd72-6ef69eac2ab9 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T08:04:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a3edb681-294a-4df7-858e-7e1b9ff05ca5 Yes, actually I am a member of the * Pluto Moon * tribe, and I have to say that people posting there have threads that pose questions about people's experiences to which they respond ~ I don't recall encountering one in which someone tells people what their experiences are and then argues with them if they say that isn't their experience or that they are lying about it or that they are manipulating other people to believe that it isn't their experience, which is more the way this thread is. I don't have a Pluto Moon or Hades Moon, but I find the tribe interesting since most of the posts there are sincere and intelligent, and the tribe itself is not plagued with trolls, alts, and cowards who live in swamp water. Thu, 28 May 2009 08:02:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a3edb681-294a-4df7-858e-7e1b9ff05ca5 amiablehermit 2009-05-28T08:02:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39289c68-dac2-4b05-942c-1ab7814b02d3 Why not read it again, Brendan? I did not write my post with bitterness. I simply answered your question. I mentioned Judy Hall's book for your information, but didn't use her book as my source of info. I have other sources as well, called personal experience. There's even an entire tribe about the Hades moon: * pluto moon * I believe it is called. Thu, 28 May 2009 07:36:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39289c68-dac2-4b05-942c-1ab7814b02d3 Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T07:36:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a934c927-28d4-494b-9697-e9e5846911f6 Well, Judy Hall must've taken a few too many brown ones at Woodstock, lol. You're pomposity is writing checks you're dumb references can't cash. It's juvenile to seek out sources that fit with your emotional bias, your special lens for the world that makes it all warm and cozy for you to live in. If it makes you feel better to believe your own garbage, enjoy. I'm glad I'm not you, Unsubscribed bitter coward. If you're going to be a joke, at least be funny. Thu, 28 May 2009 06:28:11 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a934c927-28d4-494b-9697-e9e5846911f6 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-28T06:28:11Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#596dec3d-0a44-45f0-a892-96203aca2605 "I did say THE other “ONE” The Gemini’s twin." Oh I get it now lol! :D Thu, 28 May 2009 05:40:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#596dec3d-0a44-45f0-a892-96203aca2605 Heather 2009-05-28T05:40:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c74844ca-b0f8-444a-859f-7c4527c6c378 ~~~And Dragon-of-Q, you're right.. our Gemini Moons are perfect (I'm Pisces Sun, Gemini Moon), it's just the 'other ones' who are fucked up lol! I'm just playing of course :D~~~ I did say THE other “ONE” The Gemini’s twin. In me Joakim lets see break this up. “Joak” = Joke “im”=um or them. So “Joke Them” Thu, 28 May 2009 05:29:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c74844ca-b0f8-444a-859f-7c4527c6c378 Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-28T05:29:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d928f907-66b9-4a01-ae53-b3608817febe Brendan, A Hades moon is any moon/Pluto connection - including a scorpio moon or moon in the 8th. In your case it's moon square pluto. A woman called Judy Hall wrote an entire book about the Hades moon. In that book she summs up many manifestations of Hades moons, such as adoption - which is of course quite rare, but the way your family treats you may leave you wondering if perhaps the lack of love & unity you experience on some deep level is because you were adopted. The most common experiene is a very manipulative, devouring mother who's craving for ultimate closeness but at the same time rejecting - which is very confusing. In order to control you, she's injecting you with some sort of a guilt complex: you are a monster (or at least she makes you feel like one) unless you do exactly what she wants you to do. It is conditional love in a big way. She makes it very clear no one will ever love you or even like you unless... Unless you are behaving like a nice guy and amputate all those traits she absolutely hates about you. And there may be many traits she doesn't like about you. Most likely she doesn't like anything about you. Most likely it feels like she's trying to kill you - and at this point you may begin to revolt in order to save your own authentic core. When you grow up, you'll probably experience obsessive behaviour in love relationships. Most likely you'll be a first class manipulator as well - if not a perfect copy of mum. People without Hades moons will find your intensity at least a bit frightening, and start avoiding you and your outbursts - until you've learned to hide & control your intensity. The first bit of fresh air comes when pluto is transiting your moon in your adult years. It always begins with incredible rage - suppressed rage towards 'that woman' - probably accompanied by intense fears of being completely powerless. By and by you'll learn to take back the power you gave away while trying so hard to be NOT a monster. Maybe you will notice how giving away all this power made you so very dependant - and thus limited in your freedom. And hopefully, during the process, you'll observe your own manipulative traits, and decide you can cope with "no" - so you no longer need to manipulate others in order to get what you think you need so very very very much. Well, I'll leave it here ;-) I'm sure many others will be able to fill in my gaps, as seen from their perspective, if necessary. Thu, 28 May 2009 05:27:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d928f907-66b9-4a01-ae53-b3608817febe Unsubconscious 2009-05-28T05:27:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b14eefe3-1c5c-47fa-ac11-1cd74a599453 "Dude, the only danger these people pose is in your head. It is your meatball head that is dangerous. " lol! I'm sorry.. but this thread has me literally laughing out loud now! It started out where I was pretty much trying to ignore it and leave it alone because all I can feel is a lot of tension here and nothing good is coming of it.. but the longer it's going on the more it's starting to amuse me! And imagining a meatball head really got me going :D And Dragon-of-Q, you're right.. our Gemini Moons are perfect (I'm Pisces Sun, Gemini Moon), it's just the 'other ones' who are fucked up lol! I'm just playing of course :D Thu, 28 May 2009 04:45:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b14eefe3-1c5c-47fa-ac11-1cd74a599453 Heather 2009-05-28T04:45:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5cbccef2-f179-4d7c-9e81-e393d8ba69b3 wth happened to this tribe. Back in the day we had alts and so forth but why do things seem so hostile here nowadays./ Sometimes I can't tell if people are serious or joking. Thu, 28 May 2009 04:38:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5cbccef2-f179-4d7c-9e81-e393d8ba69b3 Jessica 2009-05-28T04:38:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c3f89557-0024-46c1-bf56-ed209ddc2708 "Sporty Virgo is a menace to society because that kind of mental nuke they´ve been given was never meant to be used in front of the telly watching men in tights chase balls. Most twins understand what I´m saying..." So by sporty Virgo you don't mean Virgos actually PLAYing the sport, you mean watching it? you have new and unusual takes on astrology. What is your view of the twins, seeing as how I am that sign. Wed, 27 May 2009 23:00:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c3f89557-0024-46c1-bf56-ed209ddc2708 Paul 2009-05-27T23:00:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#86564003-5673-4716-8efc-74d4dfe8c089 Some Leos remind me about weak sun signs equipped with Ram-moons: great roaring sounds, but not much substance. They think they can fill intellectual voids with just their presence! Sporty Virgo is a menace to society because that kind of mental nuke they´ve been given was never meant to be used in front of the telly watching men in tights chase balls. Most twins understand what I´m saying... Wed, 27 May 2009 21:46:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#86564003-5673-4716-8efc-74d4dfe8c089 Joakim 2009-05-27T21:46:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ce356c8f-319e-4660-be56-58f1dbc0ceca that was to alex´s post btw lol Wed, 27 May 2009 21:30:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ce356c8f-319e-4660-be56-58f1dbc0ceca lovefox 2009-05-27T21:30:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd99fc88-4d99-46f2-b6c0-b884af61ee04 The sound of squealing tires crunching metal and shattering glass....I just hadta look Wed, 27 May 2009 18:53:38 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd99fc88-4d99-46f2-b6c0-b884af61ee04 Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T18:53:38Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#361b1d3c-0922-4fad-b44c-43f70a55101b "People of your intellectual caliber are seldom found outside of the play pen. " I like you and everything Amiable, but with all due respect, your totally wrong. You obviously have not read between the lines. You need to be of VERY VERY Laux/Low Intelligence in order for the 'real' truth to be seen. Whilst most of us can read between the lines, you're far too intellectually inferior to us, we can not only read between the lines, we can add whole paragraphs, chapters and entire imaginary books between those lines. It's an amazing gift. You're too unintelligent though. sorry. You're not one of those stupid people who think that logic is objective are you? Everyone knows that logic is particularly subjective as viewed by ourself. I'll help you out tho cos I like you. If I am right, which I am, then everything I say, logically is also right. this is logically true. Therefore if I have said it, it is only logical to assume that it is right, what with me being always right, and therefore needs no further education or study, as to do them things would be to assume I'm not right, which is of course against the opening logic that I am ALWAYS right. I know logic is tough to learn, but keep at it, you'll make progress. It's probably your Aquarian Moon, First House Mercury, Virgo Rising or MC in Gemini thats to blame. They're all very illogical.... Wed, 27 May 2009 18:47:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#361b1d3c-0922-4fad-b44c-43f70a55101b Paul 2009-05-27T18:47:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e04f20f6-2638-48f1-8c98-cfd8a5f89816 "The topic of this thread is about cap moons and power, but some caps keep forcing me to talk about my moon or about the positive side of cap moons. If you don’t follow their suggestion, they turn sour, sarcastic and call you names." Who has done this out of interest? I might have missed it. Your right though, it would be terrible if anybody were to try to look at things objectively and with balance. Far better to just look at it in a one sided view and presume that everything else is the same. It's just so much easier that way. When faced with the choice of which path to take, the right one, or the easy one, we should always take the easy one, God forbid we put any effort into our thinking processes. "The topic of this thread is about cap moons and power" In which case we can safely assume that the topic has been discussed and that the overall consensus is that there is no link. In other words, the consensus is that you are wrong. Ok. Hope that helped. Wed, 27 May 2009 18:42:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e04f20f6-2638-48f1-8c98-cfd8a5f89816 Paul 2009-05-27T18:42:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab85e92c-02a7-4954-b0ce-3b2ba2d534d5 Ah, you have become impossibly tedious. I mean, I like trolls as much as the next person, but boring me to death with nonsense gets old. So completely unimaginative. Just like your brand of astrology. Lacking in any insight or creative thinking ~ Moon: all x is x. Sun: all y is y. i totally learned the identity principle. You seem to be stuck there. Not that I expect you to understand what I am talking about. People of your intellectual caliber are seldom found outside of the play pen. Wed, 27 May 2009 18:37:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab85e92c-02a7-4954-b0ce-3b2ba2d534d5 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T18:37:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#81670558-4b2e-4f3a-985e-da138d0663f1 "In that faction terrible things like sporty or gambling Virgo sometimes are found. " Remind me why being sporty is a terrible thing again? Wed, 27 May 2009 18:22:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#81670558-4b2e-4f3a-985e-da138d0663f1 Paul 2009-05-27T18:22:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#271dd92f-1952-40bc-b635-5e3b8e95810b "You seem to think that I have trouble understanding the English language or parsing the nuances of speech," You have no problem understanding English language, and that makes your incapacity in reading between lines even more obvious. If you want to reduce your problem with reading between lines into "understanding English language" and shout to us that "no, amiablehermit has no problem understanding English", smart people will see what you are trying to do. However, you have demonstrated many times your problems in reading between lines and your inclination to misunderstand others. It is not that it is a big deal, but it is tiring to explain everything to you. Pisces don't like to dwell on people's personal problem; they like to help you when you tell them your problems. They don't like remember it and they won't label you with that secret in the future. For example, if you tell a pisces you had a dog tail, which you had been hiding, everytime they see you they wouldn't think "here is amiablehermit with a dog tail." Wed, 27 May 2009 18:05:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#271dd92f-1952-40bc-b635-5e3b8e95810b Laux 2009-05-27T18:05:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3f573ba3-fbf9-4048-b8e8-4ede3194774f Well, I don't know what rock you have been living under, but that has never been my experience with Pisces men, and I pretty much doubt that Lady Saber would be too keen on your assessment either, although I could be wrong and don't presume to speak for her. But I rather doubt that she would confide personal matters to someone on the basis of his having a lousy memory. You seem to think that I have trouble understanding the English language or parsing the nuances of speech, which is not the case with right-minded English speakers apart from you. No, girlfriend. YOU are the problem. You talk trash about all these different sign types and seem to think that it is just peachy to do so. Apparently, no amount of beating you over the head with your own words even sinks in for you. Your mental density is truly phenomenal. If you marry the guy born under the sign of the meatball, please spare the world your progeny. Wed, 27 May 2009 17:39:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3f573ba3-fbf9-4048-b8e8-4ede3194774f amiablehermit 2009-05-27T17:39:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#35393580-863b-4454-830c-8ef4b9f3f2e6 "Right. With the implication that it is because he won't remember it anyway. Great compliment. " Amiablehermit the foul-mouthed hatred inciter, it is quite tiring to having to explain everything to you since your level of intelligence is too low to read between the lines. Pisces men don't focus attention on people's personal problems, so they don't remember your secret well until the next time you bring it up again. Wed, 27 May 2009 17:29:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#35393580-863b-4454-830c-8ef4b9f3f2e6 Laux 2009-05-27T17:29:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3642aeab-9d36-44d2-a9ee-baaf014b9b7b Right. With the implication that it is because he won't remember it anyway. Great compliment. You are both a boob and a rube. Being a troll goes without saying. Wed, 27 May 2009 17:14:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3642aeab-9d36-44d2-a9ee-baaf014b9b7b amiablehermit 2009-05-27T17:14:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9677c634-9d61-422a-8590-6a23c5d89e0a Fish men are easy going and nonjudgemental. If you tell them your secret, many of them probably won't remember it well until you tell them again. Your bf is pisces with cap moon -- a good secret keeper. Wed, 27 May 2009 17:08:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9677c634-9d61-422a-8590-6a23c5d89e0a Laux 2009-05-27T17:08:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cfbd9233-f667-4e3c-ac91-8f549b3bd7f0 Unlike this creature with the scorp stellium. Wed, 27 May 2009 16:56:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cfbd9233-f667-4e3c-ac91-8f549b3bd7f0 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T16:56:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#32a2fe7a-bb67-46c0-aee6-a2be415e34d6 <Can cap moon boss scorp stellium around?> Apparently, when the scorp stellium isn't supporting much else of substance. You really don't make it too hard, you know. You just don't get a hint, do you? Even in the form of a pie in your face. Well, most of us have moved on to the Coffee thread now. Good luck with your anti-Cap Moon campaign. Have an espresso on me. You probably could use a jolt of caffeine to jump start your brain. Wed, 27 May 2009 16:49:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#32a2fe7a-bb67-46c0-aee6-a2be415e34d6 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T16:49:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ac3cb882-ae86-45ed-a8e6-07dc9a86a6d6 I tell my secrets to Pisces men because I notice that they don't judge. Wed, 27 May 2009 16:53:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ac3cb882-ae86-45ed-a8e6-07dc9a86a6d6 Lady Saber 2009-05-27T16:53:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5d317276-28e7-452f-bec9-335d6fce198d "I´m no Cap, I don´t get annoyed & vengeful if folks ignore my advice" I don’t understand why some cap moons got so irritated and vengeful when their advice was ignored. Was it actually dictatorial order disguised as advice? The topic of this thread is about cap moons and power, but some caps keep forcing me to talk about my moon or about the positive side of cap moons. If you don’t follow their suggestion, they turn sour, sarcastic and call you names. Can cap moon boss scorp stellium around? I’ve seen scorps fighting: they spit venom at each other but never try to boss enemy around. The cause of Amiablehermit’s foul rant is less clear. She isn’t a cap moon. Does she like to shout with goat herd, or does she like to act like she is leading the goats, or, she is being threatened by someone’s intelligent, logical humorous post. In order to coexist with some cap moons, you might have to learn their rules, habits and daily routine. If the order is disturbed a bit, they turn icy cold. Once, a cap moon I know invited a friend to his house, but that friend didn’t know he was allowed to stay for only one hour. That friend was an easy going and slow person, who couldn’t see the impending ice storm until getting kicked out by cap moon’s sour icy scold. The poor slow fellow has been labeled as impolite by the goat since. Wed, 27 May 2009 16:42:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5d317276-28e7-452f-bec9-335d6fce198d Laux 2009-05-27T16:42:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cb0aec53-7556-4965-afce-39fcfd38c121 I know! Go have a sauna and then go jump in the cold lake! You guys are into saunas, aren't you? Wed, 27 May 2009 16:39:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cb0aec53-7556-4965-afce-39fcfd38c121 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T16:39:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a233df2a-0eda-47c9-a470-22fa5d2a16d4 Yeah, well, I am Leo with Virgo rising, so that didn't work. Especially since I don't like gambling or "sporty" stuff. Why don't you have a nice bath or something where you will sort of stay out of the way? Wed, 27 May 2009 16:17:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a233df2a-0eda-47c9-a470-22fa5d2a16d4 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T16:17:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e5e0f7b4-98d4-4119-94c7-15f268a3a843 Maidens saw Leos folly & decided that the next zodiac step should be about sensible choices, not gluttony & grandiose fantasy-worlds above the clouds. The classic Virgo weakness is myopia; too much attention to details. I separate between conscious & unconcious maidens, the sleeping ones are folks without knowledge of the scorpian roots. In that faction terrible things like sporty or gambling Virgo sometimes are found. Wed, 27 May 2009 15:58:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e5e0f7b4-98d4-4119-94c7-15f268a3a843 Joakim 2009-05-27T15:58:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fd08fe60-71bd-417a-bf29-3d22a1415826 wow i have 4 placements in capricorn and that felt so right for me, especially my rising.. many times i act really cold and aloof for no reason, and than i feel like an idiot later, torturing myself wishing that i was more outgoing in certain situations. its hard cos caps are judge themselves so harsh.. i dont think caps can be related with search for status (geez..), or this power stuff, i dont want no power, its more a search for respect and sophistication, refinement thanks for your insight =) Wed, 27 May 2009 15:02:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fd08fe60-71bd-417a-bf29-3d22a1415826 lovefox 2009-05-27T15:02:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#355da334-fba1-4e8c-a3cb-a8fd23d8f379 Hey! This little wooden foot massager I got for Christmas feels pretty good. Wanna try? It has pyramid shaped spikes. Feels very nice on the heels. Wed, 27 May 2009 14:45:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#355da334-fba1-4e8c-a3cb-a8fd23d8f379 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T14:45:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8b225c6-b17f-4cea-88df-3d5245f3e416 Oooooooooooooo! Dress up! Yes, that is the motivational secret! Let's do it! Wed, 27 May 2009 14:36:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8b225c6-b17f-4cea-88df-3d5245f3e416 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T14:36:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5f3a2aca-1f6d-4798-928f-1dc29c0d563e : ) OK. Coffee and Tea. Then! we will don our crowns and scepters and clean the baseboards! Wed, 27 May 2009 14:31:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5f3a2aca-1f6d-4798-928f-1dc29c0d563e ~FaF~ 2009-05-27T14:31:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9eacdb03-a8e6-4ac5-a501-638f54b12cb9 Tea for me, FaF ~ preeze and fank you. Good moroning to you, too. Wed, 27 May 2009 14:23:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9eacdb03-a8e6-4ac5-a501-638f54b12cb9 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T14:23:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7aeaa52e-62b1-4997-9796-aeea3ae27af5 >>>They have a compulsion to clean the base board under the kitchen sink with a tooth brush...LOL <<< O MY GOD! HORRORS THAT BE! Good moroning everyone. (typo will remain) Coffee?Tea? Wed, 27 May 2009 14:10:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7aeaa52e-62b1-4997-9796-aeea3ae27af5 ~FaF~ 2009-05-27T14:10:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#07fae3b0-3f7a-4011-9125-72160dc49a97 Quite. Wed, 27 May 2009 14:01:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#07fae3b0-3f7a-4011-9125-72160dc49a97 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T14:01:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a7a8d182-99e0-4f11-bd5c-d60e0262eeec "They have a compulsion to clean the base board under the kitchen sink with a tooth brush...LOL " Lol well yes! But I'm particularly interested in Joakim's view of it, as Joakim has a particularly interesting and different understanding of astrology. Wed, 27 May 2009 13:27:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a7a8d182-99e0-4f11-bd5c-d60e0262eeec Paul 2009-05-27T13:27:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8023e436-fe6c-4995-ba17-4448e1381f6c "As long as they aren't sweet, Paul. I don't like sugar or sweet things. " I'm make them a little bitter, bit more grapefuit juice and I'll add a touch of lime! Wed, 27 May 2009 13:25:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8023e436-fe6c-4995-ba17-4448e1381f6c Paul 2009-05-27T13:25:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#611a3dfa-11c0-4f77-803b-4636f6a712b8 Virgo rising here ~ and I only do that when I actually clean, which might take a few years for me to get around to doing. Wed, 27 May 2009 12:43:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#611a3dfa-11c0-4f77-803b-4636f6a712b8 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T12:43:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3bcb1e67-1eec-4002-a2c6-f9303d9dc975 As long as they aren't sweet, Paul. I don't like sugar or sweet things. Wed, 27 May 2009 12:42:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3bcb1e67-1eec-4002-a2c6-f9303d9dc975 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T12:42:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5351c02b-05ed-409e-a96b-699f06df2b44 ~~So what is Virgo's negative side?~~ They have a compulsion to clean the base board under the kitchen sink with a tooth brush...LOL Wed, 27 May 2009 12:34:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5351c02b-05ed-409e-a96b-699f06df2b44 Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T12:34:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#db666d63-2f34-48ad-bbde-14a505375c6c "Here. Have a grilled scorpion. It will perk you right up and enhance your memory. " Aw Amiable, thanks for the gesture, but I'm only a Gemini, I don't hvae your Lion digestive system. I can't eat scorpion, grilled or otherwise. I'll go make a fruit smoothie, with lots of different fruit. I'll make them tropical and citric so you can have one too. None for the Cap Moons though. Everyone knows they use dark necromancy to revive scorpions and befoul smoothies. It's been well documented. Of course I wont' be showing you the documents. Wed, 27 May 2009 12:28:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#db666d63-2f34-48ad-bbde-14a505375c6c Paul 2009-05-27T12:28:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#465b3182-a70e-44be-a9eb-2e68f9001fdf Oh right. I must have missed that. So basically Virgo has NO negative sides, just the hang ups it got from Scorpio? Interseting. Joakim reminds me of someone else who posts here. If I was a more cynical person, I'd have said that Joakim was an alt. But i'm not that cynical luckily. Wed, 27 May 2009 12:25:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#465b3182-a70e-44be-a9eb-2e68f9001fdf Paul 2009-05-27T12:25:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8906de2c-5742-42f4-b9c5-63d8ff78cb53 Oh, God ~ please don't ask. He went over this once before about the witches & evil nurses and how it is a Scorpio derivative and blah blah blah. It was bad. Here. Have a grilled scorpion. It will perk you right up and enhance your memory. Wed, 27 May 2009 12:22:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8906de2c-5742-42f4-b9c5-63d8ff78cb53 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T12:22:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#436c4df6-b831-4894-810b-c3103241d7c7 "Maidens are do-gooders, they don´t set traps for others & don´t strive to own things. Not even vengeance taste that good for a Virgo." So what is Virgo's negative side? Wed, 27 May 2009 12:12:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#436c4df6-b831-4894-810b-c3103241d7c7 Paul 2009-05-27T12:12:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e0a799c3-bf72-42ab-9bc3-b2a279431549 Virgo is not lusting for power, it´s not a boss-sign. Maidens are do-gooders, they don´t set traps for others & don´t strive to own things. Not even vengeance taste that good for a Virgo. Scorps are something else, but their leadership is inspiring & elevate their surroundings... Wed, 27 May 2009 12:00:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e0a799c3-bf72-42ab-9bc3-b2a279431549 Joakim 2009-05-27T12:00:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09c7acfe-3b38-4d06-864e-c37dc099a2d0 You probably just haven't had your grilled scorpions for breakfast yet. It's okay, though ~ I am roasting some now and they are just about done. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:56:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09c7acfe-3b38-4d06-864e-c37dc099a2d0 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:56:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fafc5120-cbda-4a01-bb5d-6a28649a798c "No, Paul ~ Libra is a special combination of Virgo and Scorpio, which, as has been previously explained, produced the meatball with brown sauce sign, possibly with onions, but more likely with mushrooms. Honestly, Paul ~ keep up with the astrology here." Oh right. Sorry Joakim, I'm obviously a poor student! Wed, 27 May 2009 11:53:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fafc5120-cbda-4a01-bb5d-6a28649a798c Paul 2009-05-27T11:53:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7cc69d93-de4a-4bb9-bfd0-923eef2c5fba "just remember these words the day a goat pounces (after careful preparations) & stands there victorious with his smug moon-face: I told you so." Don't be silly Joakim, I'm a Gemini, if capricorn pounces, I'll just use my 'other' self to get away. Smugness in people tends not to bother me. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:53:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7cc69d93-de4a-4bb9-bfd0-923eef2c5fba Paul 2009-05-27T11:53:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2fc841dc-0486-4164-b7e0-1a607789f4a1 Guess what? I am not worried about it. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:52:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2fc841dc-0486-4164-b7e0-1a607789f4a1 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:52:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#afd964a0-f369-4914-b5f4-05191bf37d16 No, Paul ~ Libra is a special combination of Virgo and Scorpio, which, as has been previously explained, produced the meatball with brown sauce sign, possibly with onions, but more likely with mushrooms. Honestly, Paul ~ keep up with the astrology here. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:51:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#afd964a0-f369-4914-b5f4-05191bf37d16 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:51:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e3eef9d2-dc57-49ff-a7e0-9e91db9aab42 I´m no Cap, I don´t get annoyed & vengeful if folks ignore my advice; just remember these words the day a goat pounces (after careful preparations) & stands there victorious with his smug moon-face: I told you so. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:48:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e3eef9d2-dc57-49ff-a7e0-9e91db9aab42 Joakim 2009-05-27T11:48:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#05a7c7ff-2a69-4136-be4d-6acd3f81955d No, Paul. HE'S confused. We have already established that he is a meatball with brown sauce. No doubt he has his specially-baked theory of Aries, too, but do we really want to go there? Wed, 27 May 2009 11:46:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#05a7c7ff-2a69-4136-be4d-6acd3f81955d amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:46:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39d9a466-8514-4668-8a8a-29e5669ae1a4 Joakim I find your interpretation of astrology intersting. So far we know that Capircorn is a cold, calculating facist, whose real danger is that they keep this part of them secret. (apart from you, of course) We know that Aries is equally facsit, but more obvious about it, so less of a danger. Virgo is the super-combination of Gemini and Scorpio, and is therefore more powerful than either. I can't wait to find out more. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:46:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39d9a466-8514-4668-8a8a-29e5669ae1a4 Paul 2009-05-27T11:46:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#45a29639-38d8-4ee8-b844-76033c8e8308 "That´s what make them so dangerous, Rams can have the same ideas but then it´s written all over the face. " So are you a Ram? I'm confused Wed, 27 May 2009 11:43:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#45a29639-38d8-4ee8-b844-76033c8e8308 Paul 2009-05-27T11:43:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#46a95b05-41e4-41d3-88c8-7561fbbcff36 Dude, the only danger these people pose is in your head. It is your meatball head that is dangerous. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:36:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#46a95b05-41e4-41d3-88c8-7561fbbcff36 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:36:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3d9314d0-c1ec-492f-8549-a93b39fa73a4 That´s what make them so dangerous, Rams can have the same ideas but then it´s written all over the face. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:35:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3d9314d0-c1ec-492f-8549-a93b39fa73a4 Joakim 2009-05-27T11:35:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3d4c912-8d44-4c47-a985-40ef177d25e7 Ah, yes! I should have figured that we would hear from our friend born in the sign of the meatball on this matter! It just keeps getting better and better! Wed, 27 May 2009 11:33:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3d4c912-8d44-4c47-a985-40ef177d25e7 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:33:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#60dc6ba6-3646-40f1-a62e-b1eb569abea6 Well, unless this exercise in futility is going to continue on the train wreck collision course that Dragon sees, I think it is about exhausted. Although, it is true that we may yet hear more non sequiturs from the Unsubscribed troll in defense of the indefensible. I would not be surprised. Frankly what I have seen here of all the Capricorn Moons I have found impressive and not in the least like the characterizations of our insecure little friends here in terms of being manipulative, humorless, suffering from delusions of superiority, and the rest of that dreck. I have to totally agree with you, Paul, that it is blatantly obvious that these qualities are projections from our suspect chartless friends who seem to have to disguise themselves and cower in the shadow of anonymity and althood to feel comfortable posting here. No doubt because they can't afford to expose themselves ~ emotionally or in any other way. Nevertheless, they do. They just don't know it. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:31:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#60dc6ba6-3646-40f1-a62e-b1eb569abea6 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T11:31:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#40474b76-cbad-4472-b8b1-bd9a216cefcc "The fundamental problem with so many Caps is their lack of respect for others; in their own mind they are supreme rulers & everybody else should do what they are told (& be greatful for the "advice"). These Caps have plans for everyone, just like pawns on a chess-table." And yet, surprisingly, it is not these 'many Caps' who are posting their facist ideas. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:26:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#40474b76-cbad-4472-b8b1-bd9a216cefcc Paul 2009-05-27T11:26:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#95a577bd-b96d-4d1f-b8a6-0c6031840994 The fundamental problem with so many Caps is their lack of respect for others; in their own mind they are supreme rulers & everybody else should do what they are told (& be greatful for the "advice"). These Caps have plans for everyone, just like pawns on a chess-table. Wed, 27 May 2009 11:19:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#95a577bd-b96d-4d1f-b8a6-0c6031840994 Joakim 2009-05-27T11:19:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cd046372-f5a3-43b5-bdd9-964875b94d53 "Kind of like watching a blind rat trying to find its way out of maze. " Yeah it's kinda like watching someone hit their head against the wall continuously, whilst blaming the wall for being so hard and for attacking him. "but that he can only open up to those who are stupid and weak and who THEMSELVES need help" well that's kinda my point really, that he is opening up to people who LAUX recognises as needing help (as they were HIS defintions) whilst LAUX himself sees them as being weak and stupid. It is quite funny then, that Laux should connotate that it is the person who is helping someone who needs help, as being the one that is emotionally distant and cold. Whilst presuming that Laux himself is the one with the correct emotional outlook, Laux, who rather than help people who need help, instead views people who need help as being weak and stupid. In other words, Laux views a certain person as being weak, stupid and needing help, and then rebukes the Cap Moon for opening up to that person, presuming that the cap moon can ONLY open up to these people. All this goes on without realising that it is Laux who has judged that person to be weak, stupid and needing help in the first place, not the cap moon. They may not be any of those things. The facts therefore would fit the theory, rather than the theory fitting the facts. Laux is judging people as being weak when they need some emotional help. On top of all this, the icing on the cake, is that Laux then proceeds to call OTHER people illogical. It seems the notion of logic (and for that passive-aggression) is lost on him. I can understand that not everyone can recognise logical and illogical arguments as easily as others, but surely anyone who reads these posts can recognise that they are illogical, presumably if this is so, then Laux himself should be easily able to do that too. (by him read him/her. I've chosen to simplify and presume masculinity) Wed, 27 May 2009 11:17:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cd046372-f5a3-43b5-bdd9-964875b94d53 Paul 2009-05-27T11:17:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#38f32467-5360-4066-9328-8464206ecc8f <It is actually not the Cap Moon people who view emotions as being weak, it is Laux. Further proof in the 'kept his weakness to himself'. For all Laux knows this person needed genuine help and support because of a traumatic emotional crisis. How should Laux respond? Label his problems as a sign of weakness and the fact that he needs help as being indicative of a superiority complex. Every time Laux posts, it reveals more and more about Laux's frame of mind than it does about Cap Moon. This thread has become an example of the effects of self-delusion and projection. It is interesting though.> And actually, if you look at the structure of the original argument, the assertion is not that he needs help, but that he can only open up to those who are stupid and weak and who THEMSELVES need help. Therefore, one would have to say that he called her because she is stupid and weak and needs help herself. Actually from what she has displayed here, I would have to agree with him if he actually thought that, which I doubt. But it doesn't make her self-projection less true. Yes, it is interesting in a pathetic, nauseating sort of way. Like watching someone self-destruct before your eyes, committing one act of self-betrayal after another and seeming to be oblivious of what she is doing. Kind of like watching a blind rat trying to find its way out of maze. Wed, 27 May 2009 10:40:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#38f32467-5360-4066-9328-8464206ecc8f amiablehermit 2009-05-27T10:40:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#35c27bf4-6722-4b8d-86c4-c02a2e12e52a "<but he kept his weakness to himself> How do you even know it was a "weakness"? " That's exactly it Amiable. his 'weakness'? Look back at Laux's first post: "They could open up to only the STUPID and WEAK ones, who need help" But these descriptions of 'weak' and 'stupid' are defined by who? The Cap Moon people? Can't be, they didn't post it. They are defined by Laux. It is Laux's view that these people are 'weak' and 'stupid' and with Laux's own observation, the Cap Moon people open up to them who need help, whilst Laux herself is too busy labelling these people who need help as being weak and stupid. It's an interesting one isn't it? It is actually not the Cap Moon people who view emotions as being weak, it is Laux. Further proof in the 'kept his weakness to himself'. For all Laux knows this person needed genuine help and support because of a traumatic emotional crisis. How should Laux respond? Label his problems as a sign of weakness and the fact that he needs help as being indicative of a superiority complex. Every time Laux posts, it reveals more and more about Laux's frame of mind than it does about Cap Moon. This thread has become an example of the effects of self-delusion and projection. It is interesting though. Also how can you label your 'good friend's emotional needs as being nothing more than 'weakness' and when your friend is at his lowest and needs help from you, how can you respond by looking down at him as having nothign more than a superiority complex. Some friend. Wed, 27 May 2009 10:19:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#35c27bf4-6722-4b8d-86c4-c02a2e12e52a Paul 2009-05-27T10:19:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd85aa32-60a2-4cca-aa43-38056d3a1f7a <The only thing I know from this phone call was that he needed a friend at the time, but he kept his weakness to himself, which I didn't have to know. If you called this "opening up", I don't know what to say except: I don't mind if he saw me as a weak one because that is a typical cap moon superiority complex.> Sheesh! Look at this monstrosity: <but he kept his weakness to himself> How do you even know it was a "weakness"? If he didn't tell you what was bothering him, how do you know what it was? So why are you automatically calling it a "weakness"? Why that word? Why not, for example, his "concern" or "problem" or just "whatever was on his mind"? <I don't mind if he saw me as a weak one because that is a typical cap moon superiority complex.> Now it is clear just how you are trying to weasel out of what you said in your original post about Cap Moons only confiding in the stupid and the weak, since he reached out to you, and YOU CAN'T possibly be stupid or weak, so he had to imagine that you were ~ your "good friend" who knew you well enough to overcome his Cap Moon vulnerability to call you at 3 am. LOL! You are really rich! Yes, impeccable logic there, to be sure! Just had to be his Cap Moon superiority complex interpreting you as weak. Couldn't be that you had manipulated him into thinking that you were somehow in possession of human emotions and might empathize. Clearly he would have been wrong in that estimation of you anyway. Grow up and get over yourself. Also read some Aristotle and find out what a syllogism is. Wed, 27 May 2009 10:07:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd85aa32-60a2-4cca-aa43-38056d3a1f7a amiablehermit 2009-05-27T10:07:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52dbfd3e-7290-48d3-b16a-134e3be9ba96 "A Cap moon does not ware it's heart on it's sleeve. This is the Opposite of Cancer that shell applies here too " It is interesting that many people will say emotions should be like X, Y and Z, because MY emotions are like that. So if your emotional outlook is different to that, there must be something wrong with you. I think every Cancer has the underlying energy of Cap, because they are opposite. They are the same energy on a different end of the spectrum. Wed, 27 May 2009 09:15:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52dbfd3e-7290-48d3-b16a-134e3be9ba96 Paul 2009-05-27T09:15:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ca928f4f-111c-43fd-a0a1-2104737671da "superiority complex." Interesting "loaded" word choice More likely like you said in this post, didn't really know what they were feeling. And wasn't to comfortable just laying out on the table. A Cap moon does not ware it's heart on it's sleeve. This is the Opposite of Cancer that shell applies here too The earth part of that water / earth balance. the Cap side is the shell of Cancer. And it's possible that by talking with you at 3 in the morning, settled the anxiety without the need for specifics of the emotions. Wed, 27 May 2009 09:11:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ca928f4f-111c-43fd-a0a1-2104737671da Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T09:11:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b7ee27a7-5e55-4069-ba68-976b7c532b86 Ok Laux. Let's just go back to basics. let's simplify this. As a person with an astrological mind, what are the positives (ONLY) of a Cap Moon? What is the underlying psychology? What are the positives and negatives of your own moon? In relatino to power, what else in a chart might indicate power? What does power mean to you? "Do capricorn moon people claim power in a calculating way?" Not necessarily. "I know a few capricorn moons, who are polite and serious and seem to keep a distance from others." I know a few Leos like that too. And Scorpios. And Geminis. I know many people who do this who DON'T have Cap moon. "They could open up to only the stupid and weak ones, who need help." But it is you who have chosen to define these people as stupid and weak. By your own definition, Cap Moon people have tried to help these people, you have chosen to tag them as stupid and weak instead. "They seem to constantly have competition with others for respect." Do they compete themselves, or do they invoke competition from others? Perhaps a bit of both. Wed, 27 May 2009 09:07:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b7ee27a7-5e55-4069-ba68-976b7c532b86 Paul 2009-05-27T09:07:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b3d58d58-67f8-4ada-9065-8577bac3e1e5 I notice that any post, no matter how calm and reasoned, that you don't happen to like (i.e., calls you down on a logical absurdity) you call a rant. Again, you seem not to know the meaning of that word, either. <I tried not to ignore someone (Brendan) who kept talking to me, and you guys kept trying to convince me Brendan was not a manipulative sly person, so I had to respond to you.> You have absolutely no basis for this insulting remark about Brendan. You are provocateur, and as such, he defended himself against your bigotry. No blame there. Nothing sly or manipulative about that at all. In fact, it is patently obvious that he has been very upfront with you all along, and has even emotionally exposed himself, which, in your estimation, should be well nigh impossible for him to do. You, on the other hand, as has been repeatedly pointed out, can't even screw up enough courage to post a chart ~ not that I would take it as genuine from someone like you. You act as though YOU are the one with something to hide, which I think is the crux of that matter. The typical tactic for someone in your position is to accuse others of that for which you yourself are guilty. That can be easily deduced by a four-year-old, so as a defense tactic, it is highly unimpressive and totally transparent. So I would say that it is clear that you are the manipulative and sly one in this equation, although you are not very clever at any of it. Wed, 27 May 2009 09:04:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b3d58d58-67f8-4ada-9065-8577bac3e1e5 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T09:04:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ac7548ec-b496-4f7c-99fe-080450d8100e Paul, "The posts about the 3am phone call is just one example. " What don't you understand? Here is my answer to amiablehermit again (I am in my patient mood today): A good friend with cap moon rang me at 3 am (unusual time for a polite goat to call) ; this showed that he was too anxious to fall asleep. He might not be ready to tell what was bothering him, or he might not know why he was unsettled inside, but he needed a friend at the time. The only thing I know from this phone call was that he needed a friend at the time, but he kept his weakness to himself, which I didn't have to know. If you called this "opening up", I don't know what to say except: I don't mind if he saw me as a weak one because that is a typical cap moon superiority complex. Wed, 27 May 2009 09:00:10 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ac7548ec-b496-4f7c-99fe-080450d8100e Laux 2009-05-27T09:00:10Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b97bbd48-c712-4a9d-a867-275d35b317a2 "I will sum up your long rant as 'laux, why did you imply we cap moons are imperfect. " A rant? Is everyone who disagrees with you ranting? Did you bother to read it? "If you think my observation and discussion about cap moon are so negative, you are welcomed to deny them. I don't dislike cap moons." Well if you don't dislike them, your methods of communication are such that it is impossible to realise this, considering as we do, that you have nothing good to say. Let's just deal with the positives of a Cap Moon. What are the positive qualities of the Cap Moon? What kind of child is the child with moon in capricorn? Do not content yourself with surface appearances, try and think about the psychology of the child. Only deal with the positive side for a moment, you've already summed up the negative side. "you guys kept trying to convince me Brendan was not a manipulative sly person, so I had to respond to you. " But if you have issues with Brendan, not related to his Cap Moon, then those issues are not related to this thread. If you are interested in resolving them, the best way might be to do so privately. Your own posts are particularly passive aggressive. Perhaps these issues are your own and they tint your vision. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:57:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b97bbd48-c712-4a9d-a867-275d35b317a2 Paul 2009-05-27T08:57:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#699f3b79-b7e2-46d0-a855-8cdacbf6d27a ~~~ and that no Moon is perfect anyway.~~~ My Gemini Moon is perfect..it's that "other one" that's all fucked up....Hahaha.... Wed, 27 May 2009 08:53:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#699f3b79-b7e2-46d0-a855-8cdacbf6d27a Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T08:53:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#72987ce4-9230-4fda-8e54-04d26a5cd981 Paul, I will sum up your long rant as 'laux, why did you imply we cap moons are imperfect." If you think my observation and discussion about cap moon are so negative, you are welcomed to deny them. I don't dislike cap moons. I share my observations and want to hear people's opinions. I can choose to agree or disagree. "By the same token, if you don't like Brendan, nobody is forcing you to talk to/about him. Surely you understand this too? The same would be true for anyone else, including Amiable for that matter. " I tried not to ignore someone (Brendan) who kept talking to me, and you guys kept trying to convince me Brendan was not a manipulative sly person, so I had to respond to you. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:50:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#72987ce4-9230-4fda-8e54-04d26a5cd981 Laux 2009-05-27T08:50:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#26774911-af2f-44f6-9ada-e0717805d2f9 "Which is no small surprise from someone so logical and humorous. " It's interesting, from my point of view, that Laux is accusing others of being illogical, when in my mind the most illogical posts are Laux's. The posts about the 3am phone call is just one example. Unless of course it isn't illogical and Laux really is weak and stupid as the previous statement insists. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:46:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#26774911-af2f-44f6-9ada-e0717805d2f9 Paul 2009-05-27T08:46:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#85ef76c8-e0bc-4d71-8f74-ffa99d7de172 Which is no small surprise from someone so logical and humorous. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:44:10 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#85ef76c8-e0bc-4d71-8f74-ffa99d7de172 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T08:44:10Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f0c85438-3daf-4b32-aca2-260c4dcae4c7 Actually, I think it is more like shooting fish in a barrel ~ no slight to any Pisces intended there. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:41:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f0c85438-3daf-4b32-aca2-260c4dcae4c7 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T08:41:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c9eff51e-4ceb-4ef7-85d3-e205a8cb0257 "Yes, I did also make this point, Paul, but our friend here who doesn't seem to know what passive-aggressive means and who tripped herself up with her own "logic" didn't respond to this obvious flaw in her thinking. That figures. She only posts to points she thinks she can weasel out of, and that was not one of them." Yeah I wasn't going to mention it again, but Laux just mentioned the 'phoned me at 3am' thing again. It's a little embarassing when someone so obviously contradicts themselves, but Laux doesn't seem to have noticed this yet. So he/she must have missed it. Quite a number of good points were made in response to her/his statements but all of them seem to have been overlooked. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:40:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c9eff51e-4ceb-4ef7-85d3-e205a8cb0257 Paul 2009-05-27T08:40:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#16bc080f-30e2-4cee-969b-19ef3ab5dfa1 "What's in your own system that rubs you the wrong way that you have this need to project and start bashing other people for. " exactly. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:37:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#16bc080f-30e2-4cee-969b-19ef3ab5dfa1 Paul 2009-05-27T08:37:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#388d0f38-88cf-4eaa-bcdc-02a3742a6abc <Sherpa made an excellent point about the 'defencelessness' of Cap because it partially relies upon reputation and approval from others. At times it seems that you understand and accept this, but then you will just make more sweeping judgements. > Yeah. My Aqua Moon has no problem dealing with this, so she can pick on me to her heart's content. Kind of gets my juices flowing and amuses me in a kind of semi-bored, but oh well, here's the action, such as it is, sort of way. <By your own definition of logic, if Cap Moons only open up to stupid and weak people, and one of them opened up to you, what does this say about you? If you disagree that you are weak and stupid, then you must also accept that the first statement is not definitive and is in fact not based on anything factual.> Yes, I did also make this point, Paul, but our friend here who doesn't seem to know what passive-aggressive means and who tripped herself up with her own "logic" didn't respond to this obvious flaw in her thinking. That figures. She only posts to points she thinks she can weasel out of, and that was not one of them. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:36:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#388d0f38-88cf-4eaa-bcdc-02a3742a6abc amiablehermit 2009-05-27T08:36:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#90cc1537-cb50-4324-8541-2ff0e463ec83 ~~~Gotta love a trainwreck. It's keeping me from taking a nap. Not good.~~~ Ya I call it the N. American car crash syndrome" Rubbernecking we be... Wed, 27 May 2009 08:34:10 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#90cc1537-cb50-4324-8541-2ff0e463ec83 Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T08:34:10Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6cb71785-2045-404f-afcc-27ee8da6ea3e Capricorn and Scorpio. Ever head the line that Capricorn is Scorpio in a Suit...LOL I do get a visual of Scorpio dressed in leathers tattooed and on a Harley. Capricorn in a 3 piece suit driving a Caddy Both with an evil eye on the other... ~~~It seems like this thread is bringing out the worst in people, myself emphatically included~~~ Ya know this seems to happen almost every time a post goes up with any hint of animosity toward a particular sign "Cap moon wants Power" It's like a formula for starting up character assassination. And folks that think they have some sign all figuered out. It's one of those check your "self" issues. What's in your own system that rubs you the wrong way that you have this need to project and start bashing other people for. People get so self rightious in thier beleivs, that they can take up arms and go to war.... Like our newbie Secsip said, “Hasn't history taught us anything?” Wed, 27 May 2009 08:32:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6cb71785-2045-404f-afcc-27ee8da6ea3e Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T08:32:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c86f1b0e-3902-4399-a1af-d21f6d021c83 Gotta love a trainwreck. It's keeping me from taking a nap. Not good. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:27:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c86f1b0e-3902-4399-a1af-d21f6d021c83 SecSip 2009-05-27T08:27:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cf090efc-9267-451b-99fb-cb547bde1cd1 Besides, you suggested people leave if they didn't like your thread, so I am just saying that you can do the same. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:15:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cf090efc-9267-451b-99fb-cb547bde1cd1 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T08:15:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96ca2d87-5432-422e-9414-396a2934a3cf Sorry, teal. I am having too much fun trolling trolls. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:13:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96ca2d87-5432-422e-9414-396a2934a3cf amiablehermit 2009-05-27T08:13:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f7b65193-7657-4fee-9f51-c7f0add1c106 It seems like this thread is bringing out the worst in people, myself emphatically included... Now & Laters, Starburst, and/or Mamba. Now there's an argument worth having... Wed, 27 May 2009 08:11:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f7b65193-7657-4fee-9f51-c7f0add1c106 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T08:11:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50e430b5-eb9e-4448-8e85-13be8964811d Duh. So what did he say? How's the weather? And you actually have a friend with a Cap Moon? Wonder if he is aware of your opinion of his Moon. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:11:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50e430b5-eb9e-4448-8e85-13be8964811d amiablehermit 2009-05-27T08:11:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c0cafd55-5ec7-402a-94c3-8aa778b17c88 Laux "Where have I shown cap moon as the worst moon?" For all your rebuking of other people's intelligence, you occasionally show a particular lack of it yourself, as indeed we all do from time to time. Can it really be that you do not understand the point I am making here? NOBODY IS PERFECT. Nobody. Not you. Not Brendan. Nobody. Therefore highlighting all the times when Cap Moon isn't perfect is pointless. We could start a thread on each of the other zodiac signs also, but unless we look at each one in a balanced way, their positives and negatives, we won't learn anything. Also it seems that you have decided that this thread is actually about Brendan when in reality this thread is about Capricorn Moons and your insistence upon tarring all Cap Moons with the one brush, despite many examples and analogies to the contrary. Sherpa made an excellent point about the 'defencelessness' of Cap because it partially relies upon reputation and approval from others. At times it seems that you understand and accept this, but then you will just make more sweeping judgements. "In the end, you guys have been trying to convince me that Brendan was not deceiving, foul, passive-aggressive and that anyone could be as imperfect as Brendan" Nope. I've been trying to convince you that there are many sides to the Cap Moon, and that no Moon is perfect anyway. Each one has it's negatives. Brendan is not the incarnation of Capricorn Moon. If you have issues with Brendan, then your issues are with Brendan, not with Capricorn Moon, so presumably the notion of these issues with Brendan are completely unrelated to this thread. "Every aggressive word that I have used was against that the ones who tried to stop me from saying my opinions by using foul language." The worst bit is that you might actually believe this. Your opening post on this thread was that. Re-read your posts as if you were a capricorn moon and find all the times you were using passive-aggressive language. It seems you don't have a good word to say for Cap Moon, except when it suits your purpose to further highlight their negative ones. Here, let me help you, imagine reading this as a third party, with your own sensitive moon happening to be in cap. This is what you are saying about 1/12th of the population who you have never even met: "They could open up to only the stupid and weak ones," "They seem to constantly have competition with others for respect" "they don't forget to correct others (maybe to show superiority" "They look irritated by others quite easily" "They do everything to prevent you from coming closer. " "in a way, they decide when to make you talk to them" "They need to secure their power before they give compassion" "Cap moons want to be leaders... every step is calculated towards that position" "they want to show you who is the boss, and they judge people. " "they want perfection, and they constantly judge people in their mind." "The safest way to get along with a cap moon is to keep a distance. " "the extent that they need respect make them ...[the] manipulator of all situations" "cap moons feel superior and this sense of superiority sometimes overshadows the empathy in them if there is any. " "Do you actually think your cap moon can bully my scorp stellium?" etc etc. Can you see how others would view this? Substitute Cap Moon for some other delineation of character. Perhaps we'll substitute it for 'Black People', or 'Women', or 'Jews' or 'Poor people' or 'Astrologers' or anything else. Can you imagine that people would be annoyed if I said "WOMEN could open up to only the stupid and weak ones" or that "The safest way to get along with a Black man is to keep a distance". Put simply, you cannot make these broad sweeping generalisations. If you want to understand the astrological connections to power in any general way, you cannot do so by discarding everything you do not like and using astrology to vindicate your own prejudice of any sign or aspect. You must look at things in a balanced way. It's not just you of course. Joakim is also at fault, in my opinion, of tarring cap moon with one brush. I don't mean to isolate you in this, merely to attempt to highlight your opinions on Cap Moon as observable by someone casually reading your posts. I don't know whether these posts of yours adequately reflect your view of Cap Moon, but seeing as how we've nothing else to go on, we will be forced to accept that unless something is said otherwise, that these ARE your opinions of Cap Moon. The only good thing you said about them is that they are polite, but you then swiftly made this a negative by connotating 'polite' as being somehow emotionally distanced. "They could open up to only the stupid and weak ones," "but he was once so emotionally caught up by something that he rang me at 3 am" By your own definition of logic, if Cap Moons only open up to stupid and weak people, and one of them opened up to you, what does this say about you? If you disagree that you are weak and stupid, then you must also accept that the first statement is not definitive and is in fact not based on anything factual. "Everyone is welcomed to contribute. If you find it so terrible to hear different opinions, no one forces you to stay. " Thank you, I understand the rules of Tribe.net perfectly well. By the same token, if you don't like Brendan, nobody is forcing you to talk to/about him. Surely you understand this too? The same would be true for anyone else, including Amiable for that matter. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:09:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c0cafd55-5ec7-402a-94c3-8aa778b17c88 Paul 2009-05-27T08:09:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fbf848be-02c2-4505-8fb4-ddf29f053e8d "LOL! So this was an example of what? What lines are there to read between here? " For god's sake. I will explain to you: A good friend with cap moon rang me at 3 am (unusual time for a polite goat to call) ; this showed that he was too anxious to fall asleep. He might not be ready to tell what was bothering him, or he might not know why he was unsettled inside, but he needed a friend at the time. Wed, 27 May 2009 08:06:59 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fbf848be-02c2-4505-8fb4-ddf29f053e8d Laux 2009-05-27T08:06:59Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b99a7b6c-9835-4b52-9d4c-7a3d061fb065 "wtf?" yeah....... amiable, go to your mousenest!! its warm... theres little tiny cakes and pink napkins that smell like a rose and a tullup combined Wed, 27 May 2009 08:03:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b99a7b6c-9835-4b52-9d4c-7a3d061fb065 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T08:03:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4f9e0d70-4449-4aa7-93a9-c0e487f25c9e <Are you afraid people will see your rant? or the stuff I said before: > Not in the least. It would take a hellvalot more than your silliness to "scare" me. Why the hell would I be scared? Neither you nor your troll cohort have any substance whatsoever. About all you can and your pal can do is repeat tired insults and call it intelligence, logic, and humor. Your saying so sure doesn't make it so, though. No, I just suggested a solution to your dilemma, one which I know you know how to do. Wed, 27 May 2009 07:57:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4f9e0d70-4449-4aa7-93a9-c0e487f25c9e amiablehermit 2009-05-27T07:57:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#29114123-2c18-4f53-9f35-87312104da0d Amiablehermit said, "You can just delete this thread and leave. " Are you afraid people will see your rant? or the stuff I said before: "If you want to see the difference between an illogical foul rant and a logical intelligent humorous post, just look at amiablehermit's post and Unsubscribed's. amiablehermit, you are not only an illogiacal badbreathed ranter, but a foul defamer. Yes you are very scared of someone who can talk with intelligence, logic and humour." Wed, 27 May 2009 07:51:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#29114123-2c18-4f53-9f35-87312104da0d Laux 2009-05-27T07:51:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#03e4c8d2-6fc6-4141-83ee-032db9b0e582 Just consider it an act of magnanimity on your part ~ sort of show that you yourself don't have a Capricorn Moon. Wed, 27 May 2009 07:39:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#03e4c8d2-6fc6-4141-83ee-032db9b0e582 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T07:39:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3ec48a9b-c3dd-410f-bd09-ab3cc7fb70ea Sure. You can just delete this thread and leave. Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3ec48a9b-c3dd-410f-bd09-ab3cc7fb70ea amiablehermit 2009-05-27T07:36:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa8a155e-9fc6-4235-9d97-e097a227c7ff wtf? Wed, 27 May 2009 07:30:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa8a155e-9fc6-4235-9d97-e097a227c7ff SecSip 2009-05-27T07:30:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b367102-7e99-4f17-9d96-47c8bbc689ff Not my intentions. This thread is venomous. How can so much hatred brew over something someone is born with and can't change? Hasn't history taught us anything? I'm sure the interweaving of this thread have hit below the belt of what the original OP probably intended. I am not reading everything but I can feel the toxicity none-the-less. To say this thread is scary is not low. :( Wed, 27 May 2009 07:29:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b367102-7e99-4f17-9d96-47c8bbc689ff SecSip 2009-05-27T07:29:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b654ff3-9a01-4363-a06e-0416b52a78ef Do you have better ways to expose underground deceptive serpent and to reason with illogical foul ranter? Wed, 27 May 2009 07:24:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b654ff3-9a01-4363-a06e-0416b52a78ef Laux 2009-05-27T07:24:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9b8ca51a-431c-4509-9db3-a7b1c0666a9d It is funny how some can seem to choose to with fancy word styling aim so low. Wed, 27 May 2009 07:02:25 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9b8ca51a-431c-4509-9db3-a7b1c0666a9d Dragon-of-Q 2009-05-27T07:02:25Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#aa7f4621-2756-4e49-97b1-60128d0cb8a4 And, of course, coming from yet another chartless troll, you are bound to be taken very seriously. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:53:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#aa7f4621-2756-4e49-97b1-60128d0cb8a4 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:53:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0743d7c2-7910-4ddb-98d8-0b0ca35b4daa scary thread is scary *promptly leaves* Wed, 27 May 2009 06:48:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0743d7c2-7910-4ddb-98d8-0b0ca35b4daa SecSip 2009-05-27T06:48:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#37d0fc01-74f0-4ac5-9b4a-33d8400b556a You certainly do a lot to make your case. It is obvious that I am quaking in my boots before a high intellect. LOL! What a canard! Wed, 27 May 2009 06:42:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#37d0fc01-74f0-4ac5-9b4a-33d8400b556a amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:42:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#74b6c264-3725-456f-9eba-3b3659ca224b If you want to see the difference between an illogical foul rant and a logical intelligent humorous post, just look at amiablehermit's post and unscribed's. amiablehermit, you are not only an illogiacal badbreathed ranter, but a foul defamer. Yes you are very scared of someone who can talk with intelligence, logic and humour. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:39:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#74b6c264-3725-456f-9eba-3b3659ca224b Laux 2009-05-27T06:39:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#71a42013-1d36-489a-8892-c5a150dbcdd0 the lines were in the sand anyways..... im sure they're gone by now Wed, 27 May 2009 06:26:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#71a42013-1d36-489a-8892-c5a150dbcdd0 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T06:26:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1ac311f7-9282-4661-b8ad-553bbcb9673e Well, that is an excellent place to begin! Wed, 27 May 2009 06:24:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1ac311f7-9282-4661-b8ad-553bbcb9673e amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:24:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9ba132df-b7fd-42e5-acf8-4d8c046af82e LOL! So this was an example of what? What lines are there to read between here? Wed, 27 May 2009 06:23:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9ba132df-b7fd-42e5-acf8-4d8c046af82e amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:23:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9bb9b6c2-2512-45a1-84ed-4d446d96f167 its about me! "who am i" its a psychology paper.... :-/ I have no idea who i am! Wed, 27 May 2009 06:20:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9bb9b6c2-2512-45a1-84ed-4d446d96f167 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T06:20:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab9b09ea-9992-42cc-8f5a-e4ca1ad31a5b Ringing someone at 3 am doesn't mean opening up to the person. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:18:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab9b09ea-9992-42cc-8f5a-e4ca1ad31a5b Laux 2009-05-27T06:18:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6c617a5f-4949-4ce6-911f-c75f8e08b1e8 What's it on? Wed, 27 May 2009 06:17:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6c617a5f-4949-4ce6-911f-c75f8e08b1e8 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:17:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#42c199db-cac1-4995-a47d-bc640da719d0 My mother a saint? Time for a new crystal ball, Madame Fate. Made me feel like a monster? Ha! And she let me run wild; my childhood was a blast. Your insights are at least more tangible than others. All that stuff about "Hades moon" is Greek to me. Please refer me to your sources on Hades Moons, etc. I've never explored that line of Astrology. Be assured that I'd really follow up and study what you're talking about. I'm certainly aware that Laux hit a nerve here. I'm not trying to say that I'm a perfect nice guy, I'm far from perfect. Faaaaaaaarrrrr from perfect. This thread is proof. Like I've said, it's just irritating to be herded into someone's narrow generalizations. If it makes a good study in Capricorn Moons, even better. It's slowly dawning on me that I really did go after this one like Captain Ahab... I would pin it as the classic scorpio reflex in my own case. The Cap moon thing just made it personal and the whole reputation thing came into play. People with Cap Moons were getting badmouthed IMO and I had the chutzpah, and sadly enough, the time, to fire back like I was on trial for my life... Aye carumba... I wouldn't dare try and convince myself that I'm a "nice guy". It's simply not true. I'm polite here on tribe for the most part, which is all I meant. I'm pretty comfortable in my own skin, playing the hand I've been dealt. What can I do but make the best of it... Time to practice my sweep picking, I suppose. Thank you for getting me to exercise some neurons, Unsubscribed Alt of God. Very refreshing. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:14:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#42c199db-cac1-4995-a47d-bc640da719d0 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T06:14:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e49cdaa-8fdb-4fee-ba49-a70b1c29cc64 awww, amiable........ (hug) yeah, everyone is crazy.............. I guess its cool. watever. you could write this 6 page paper for me... if you need something to channel your energy into.... I will probably wait 2 hours before its due. i guess i am staying up all night tonight.... ugh........ Wed, 27 May 2009 06:12:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e49cdaa-8fdb-4fee-ba49-a70b1c29cc64 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T06:12:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#40c9d3a1-ad48-48c7-bfed-30935c762811 "Ladysaber, I made the previous post after your post. " I meant before you post. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:09:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#40c9d3a1-ad48-48c7-bfed-30935c762811 Laux 2009-05-27T06:09:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f30c79b5-8afd-4443-827d-0db2c01cc925 Ladysaber, I made the previous post after your post. "In that respect Cappy moons also make good keepers of secrets. You can trust them with your weaknesses and secrets, because you know that these won't be ridiculed publicly." I agree most goats are really good secret keepers. Do goats share their own secrets with others? Wed, 27 May 2009 06:07:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f30c79b5-8afd-4443-827d-0db2c01cc925 Laux 2009-05-27T06:07:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#95c612ed-3bc8-499d-8441-a848b2fb2f1c <this is getting totally nuts.... is everyone crazy??????> Probably, teal. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:05:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#95c612ed-3bc8-499d-8441-a848b2fb2f1c amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:05:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9f8536e2-9510-4d57-84a0-ca6479cc0f8e OH MY GOD!!! this is getting totally nuts.... is everyone crazy?????? chilllllll out Wed, 27 May 2009 06:02:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9f8536e2-9510-4d57-84a0-ca6479cc0f8e $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T06:02:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f9e95ada-899e-45af-855b-a9c8ccace837 Don't expect it to be real, Lady Saber. Too many people would recognize her. Wed, 27 May 2009 06:02:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f9e95ada-899e-45af-855b-a9c8ccace837 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T06:02:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2c8c8726-ede7-4d14-9144-5b12f8d3fe91 Well, by your logic, then, you must be one of the stupid and the weak. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:58:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2c8c8726-ede7-4d14-9144-5b12f8d3fe91 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T05:58:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#452140b2-5244-479b-87c6-46a2e935c5aa Post your natal chart Laux. I would love to see it :-) Wed, 27 May 2009 05:57:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#452140b2-5244-479b-87c6-46a2e935c5aa Lady Saber 2009-05-27T05:57:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39d07048-6c35-4e8b-8ed1-edd7816442be Scares the hell out me? LOL! Why would it? But I have a pretty good idea. Your style belies you. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:56:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39d07048-6c35-4e8b-8ed1-edd7816442be amiablehermit 2009-05-27T05:56:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#037a2fc3-608c-4c67-98e4-8a6d07db4a9b "Yes in fact their deepest feelings often have to be dug out from them. All you see is stoic calmness, but inside they are not as settled as they might see." Yes a very good cap moon friend of mine looks calm and cheerful all the time, and he gives advice to people in need, but he was once so emotionally caught up by something that he rang me at 3 am. I was quite shocked at the time. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:55:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#037a2fc3-608c-4c67-98e4-8a6d07db4a9b Laux 2009-05-27T05:55:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#85865455-6fa1-462c-9fef-6a9d1cd0d092 Amiablehermit, you wrote: "Anyway, congratulations, darling ~ you are now definitely a full-fledged troll." Now? Definitely? In your eyes, I already was a troll and an alt before I was born. You never called me anything but that. Of course you are very unbiased, hahahaha. Face it, you cannot stand anyone who is not bowing before your throne. I'm not impressed by your accusations. I know where they come from. You don't know who I am, and that scares the hell out of you. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:53:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#85865455-6fa1-462c-9fef-6a9d1cd0d092 Unsubconscious 2009-05-27T05:53:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#66253b6a-31c5-4e02-9214-5b762b17e2f4 I'd rather not open up to the weaker really. Not my cup of tea. But that said, everyone has their weak points. I have my fair share of people who seem strong and put together, but needs a listening ear for a niggling problem that no one knows about. And of course there are others who keep asking for advise but don't take it very well. In which case I just shut up and move lol In that respect Cappy moons also make good keepers of secrets. You can trust them with your weaknesses and secrets, because you know that these won't be ridiculed publicly. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:46:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#66253b6a-31c5-4e02-9214-5b762b17e2f4 Lady Saber 2009-05-27T05:46:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#aead7ac8-ca73-4ef9-b4a1-92543c985534 Tell me, Lady Saber ~ does this mean that you can only open up to the stupid and the weak who need your help? Wed, 27 May 2009 05:40:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#aead7ac8-ca73-4ef9-b4a1-92543c985534 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T05:40:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cbc587db-dba6-4f76-a74e-23657f51dc6e <They could open up to only the stupid and weak ones, who need help> Read between the lines, Laux. That was in your original post. Do you think an insulting comment like that creates a tone of good will? While some of the people you insulted here with your bigotry have kept their cool, I am certain that your attitude is not one that they particularly appreciate. <If you find it so terrible to hear different opinions, no one forces you to stay.> Since when did you become mod here, willow? Wed, 27 May 2009 05:34:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cbc587db-dba6-4f76-a74e-23657f51dc6e amiablehermit 2009-05-27T05:34:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#65b6055e-2eed-499f-8ffb-5a0c30e8f631 Yes in fact their deepest feelings often have to be dug out from them. All you see is stoic calmness, but inside they are not as settled as they might see. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:34:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#65b6055e-2eed-499f-8ffb-5a0c30e8f631 Lady Saber 2009-05-27T05:34:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4fc485a7-30d5-4422-9445-b6bbe68c9153 "I hope you meet a guy,fall in love, and then find out he has his moon smack in the middle of good ol' Capricorn. That'd be a riot... " Let me say it again: I don't dislike cap moon. The fact that your deceitful, manipulative way in most of your posts exposed yourself as a conniving, serpent like liar doesn’t make me dislike the entire goat clan. There are still some decent goats, who made valuable contribution on this thread. Are you trying to divert people’s attention from your deceit to my love life or to my typo and sentence? Does playing English teacher here elevate you from your underground serpent place where you play dirty mind-game? Wed, 27 May 2009 05:21:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4fc485a7-30d5-4422-9445-b6bbe68c9153 Laux 2009-05-27T05:21:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8a0cdb23-260b-4a48-8e09-992e5bd56fc1 The arrogance of this post is unbelievable, Unsubscribed algae-covered amphibian. The swamp is most definitely the right place for you. I notice that you are also too gutless to post your chart, probably because you would be recognized, and you certainly have reason to hide after your last tour here. I wouldn't put it past you to make one up, though. Anyway, congratulations, darling ~ you are now definitely a full-fledged troll. Wed, 27 May 2009 05:21:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8a0cdb23-260b-4a48-8e09-992e5bd56fc1 amiablehermit 2009-05-27T05:21:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#26bb0217-283b-4e27-a5e7-ba1b025a79d2 Brendan, you wrote: "I'm a really nice guy when I'm not being herded into your unfair and poorly thought out generalizations about people with certain placements. Really! " So is everyone, Brendan. We all have that "very nice" part and if we are poked, something else appears on the surface. But at least you've shown us that cap moons with scorpio suns take themselves VERY serious. Whereas other sun/moon combinations probably would respond with a lot more humour, distance and detachment. I think Laux started this thread because she wanted to know a bit more about cap moons - NOT to deliberately spread dirt over one particular sign. Apparently cap moons like to hide behind this "no one understands us" thing - and surely, that situation will continue if caps refuse to open up and tell us more about what's so un-understandable. Your moon is in 12 so I can understand you prefer it rose coloured. On top of that you have a Hades moon so most likely your mother made you feel like a big monster unless you did exactly what she wanted you to do - which is so very painfull you prefer to do ALL you can to prove the contrary to everyone all the time. You are still very young, so it is very understandable you haven't been able to liberate your Hades moon from all the crap you mother put onto it. Again, moon in 12 won't make it very easy to see your mother clearly as well. I mean: as a humain being, not as a saint. SO you're still stuck in the phase where you have to prove you're so very much OK, and act accordingly. At least this is what I observe from your posts. All in all, this moon position colours your reactions. You have a cap moon, but it's not exactly the same as say Lady Sabers cap moon. Lady Saber responded with dignity and received respect, you attacked and received quite different reactions. No one doubts you're a really nice guy. You don't have to convince us. Maybe you have to convince yourself? Wed, 27 May 2009 05:07:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#26bb0217-283b-4e27-a5e7-ba1b025a79d2 Unsubconscious 2009-05-27T05:07:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b0a2fc32-5b01-45b0-893f-702307bc1b37 I'm a really nice guy when I'm not being herded into your unfair and poorly thought out generalizations about people with certain placements. Really! Wed, 27 May 2009 03:50:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b0a2fc32-5b01-45b0-893f-702307bc1b37 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T03:50:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e9eba80e-2413-4aa2-9555-d61ba52feddd "Everyone is welcomed to contribute. If you find it so terrible to hear different opinions, no one forces you to stay." I was going to say the same thing to you, Laux... I hope you meet a guy,fall in love, and then find out he has his moon smack in the middle of good ol' Capricorn. That'd be a riot... Brendan Brendan Brendan... Stop making me relevant! I fade into the background and only poke my head out from time to time. Ask anyone. I'm usually not this outspoken, but I sort of made you another uncreative project. Post your natal chart! I want to see your moon and that big, scary scorpio stellium you threatened me with. "Every aggressive word that I have used was against that the ones who tried to stop me from saying my opinions by using foul language." Again, you need to do your English homework. This is sloppy. I'd put red ink all over it. Make your teacher happy and crack open a book from time to time. A good book about Astrology might be a good start. Books are your friends. Stay in school, young lady! Wed, 27 May 2009 03:36:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e9eba80e-2413-4aa2-9555-d61ba52feddd $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T03:36:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3aaf487-55b2-4333-9573-3e78235c5e4a "Can you only see hatred and deceit?" In Brendan? so far yes. Wed, 27 May 2009 03:23:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3aaf487-55b2-4333-9573-3e78235c5e4a Laux 2009-05-27T03:23:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#30370bd7-e061-49df-968f-36c62deeb596 "You have shown that Capricorn Moon is at times, not perfect and has a negative side to it. I'll ask you again. Which of the remaining 11 moon signs IS PERFECT? Which of them is the one that is without fault? Until you can find it, then it is reasonable to assume that you (having one of the other imperfect moon placements) is equally as imperfect as Brendan and everyone else with a Cap Moon. " Where have I shown cap moon as the worst moon? In the end, you guys have been trying to convince me that Brendan was not deceiving, foul, passive-aggressive and that anyone could be as imperfect as Brendan. I am glad Brendan as an individual doesn't represent cap moon.(peope as uncreative as Brendan will probably say thing like: 'I am glad Laux doesn't represent cancer sun) Every aggressive word that I have used was against that the ones who tried to stop me from saying my opinions by using foul language. If most of the things Brendan said on this thread were his aggressive tactics to manipulate, his words can't be taken seriously. I started this thread as an open discussion. Everyone is welcomed to contribute. If you find it so terrible to hear different opinions, no one forces you to stay. Wed, 27 May 2009 02:43:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#30370bd7-e061-49df-968f-36c62deeb596 Laux 2009-05-27T02:43:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ac4a6850-0382-4605-ba80-4f11712a876e Agreed. Wed, 27 May 2009 02:34:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ac4a6850-0382-4605-ba80-4f11712a876e Scasco 2009-05-27T02:34:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa71ffbe-516d-48ca-835f-dc7d9c7e8e23 I find the Capricorn Moon to be one of the more vulnerable moons due to its hypersensitivity to reputation, ie., what other people think about me. These people may feel more self-conscious than usual as if their deepest feelings are on display even when they are not. Wed, 27 May 2009 02:05:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa71ffbe-516d-48ca-835f-dc7d9c7e8e23 sherpa 2009-05-27T02:05:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f1c69c6c-675f-4ae7-b7ae-80380d2c1ae8 For Capricorn moons who feel like they are wrongly pegged as cold, heartless and/or insensitive, it might help to know the animal that represented Capricorn many ages ago (from what I vaguely remember) was a 'sea-goat'; a goat with fish-tail. So, there would appear to be more sensitivity to this sign than popular literature would lead you to believe. However, this sensitivity may be at least 'partially' hidden (hence the tail in the water), while the rest of it's body (the goat's head and torso, perhaps) is above water (what may be easily visible). You should also think of the actual animal, the goat, and what they're like - timid creatures. So, even though, on the surface, many Capricorn influenced people appear cold or hard, they are shy, and not-so-confident underneath. Wed, 27 May 2009 01:54:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f1c69c6c-675f-4ae7-b7ae-80380d2c1ae8 Scasco 2009-05-27T01:54:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#20e23546-5618-47ac-9b6a-265648d2ca17 "the scorp kind likes to expose foul deceitful passive-aggressive apologizer like you and make the nice naive folks awareof your sick cunning mind game." At least I can make coherent sentences. The Laux kind likes to expose herself as a stubborn moron every chance she gets. At least I can pull off a mind game or two if I wanted to. And Laux, at the end of the day you can at least be thankful that I'm not a lawyer. Wed, 27 May 2009 01:27:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#20e23546-5618-47ac-9b6a-265648d2ca17 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T01:27:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b2ce7e35-e6b6-4608-812d-7007dd1c66f8 Hey, UranisinPisces! Neptune is integrated very well into my chart, but thank you for telling me what I need. Big smiles! Wed, 27 May 2009 01:20:11 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b2ce7e35-e6b6-4608-812d-7007dd1c66f8 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-27T01:20:11Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9ae6e872-5577-4ee6-bb1b-0a642d614372 "the scorp kind likes to expose foul deceitful passive-aggressive apologizer like you and make the nice naive folks awareof your sick cunning mind game." Laux You have shown that Capricorn Moon is at times, not perfect and has a negative side to it. I'll ask you again. Which of the remaining 11 moon signs IS PERFECT? Which of them is the one that is without fault? Until you can find it, then it is reasonable to assume that you (having one of the other imperfect moon placements) is equally as imperfect as Brendan and everyone else with a Cap Moon. With this in mind you are no better than anyone else, and certainly in no position to decide that one person's imperfections is less/more perfect than your own. Until you can find the placement of the Moon that is without flaws, then it is completely illogical to say "well this one isn't perfect', because that is true of ALL the moon places, including your own. Perhaps you could spend your time more constructively looking at your own Moon and pay more attention to that. It is the only person's moon you have any hope of truly understanding and for that matter changing. Tue, 26 May 2009 22:49:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9ae6e872-5577-4ee6-bb1b-0a642d614372 Paul 2009-05-26T22:49:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4406da32-3977-4fdf-80e2-959207e571c1 "the scorp kind likes to expose foul deceitful passive-aggressive apologizer like you and make the nice naive folks awareof your sick cunning mind game." Laux Can you only see hatred and deceit? Are you really that blind? What is productive about this line of thinking? At some point you are going to have to realise that people come in more than two shades. The world is not filled with loving, enlightened and selfless people on one side, and then Capricorn Moons on the other. Be realistic. Tue, 26 May 2009 22:43:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4406da32-3977-4fdf-80e2-959207e571c1 Paul 2009-05-26T22:43:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ce575ce9-32e8-4d98-8957-8d6184138eff FaF Ok. So to be more clear, you think the focal point is the planet within the Grand Trine that is making an opposition to another planet. I think it is that other planet. I've researched this a bit more now. According to this site (http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/GrandTrine15.2.htm) there isn't really a focal 'planet' rather a focus on the opposition itself. So both the planets are the focus of the aspect, or rather the opposition is the focus. It says "That opposition should be what you focus on when interpreting this part of the horoscope." However wikipedia agrees with my interpretation, that it is the planet that is opposing one of the 'legs' of the Grand Trine. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_aspect) it says "The fourth planet in the kite configuration, which opposes one planet and sextiles the other two, is the point in the chart that will hold the key to the special talents and gifts that the native can focus on to help him to achieve success in this life." I haven't found anything that says the focal planet is within the Grand Trine though. So in your son's example, the focus is either Mars opposition Moon, or it is the Moon itself. It is understandable that this aspect might be of particular relevance to you, as his moon might of course be descriptive of his relationship with you in some ways. My understanding of Kites is that the Grand Trine is very much a closed circuit, but the planet which oppositions one of the 'legs' of the Grand Trine, offers a channel into which the Grand Trine can flow. This planet becomes the focus of the Grand Trine's energy, or the 'receptacle' of it. Tue, 26 May 2009 22:41:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ce575ce9-32e8-4d98-8957-8d6184138eff Paul 2009-05-26T22:41:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#43d2c040-03b8-4fe1-82b2-8b0e52877fe4 <I personally wouldn't even dream of speaking to someone too lightweight to even take semi-seriously. But then again I have a fulltime job, so I cannot spend the entire day behind my screen, bossing around everyone who isn't "amiable" to me, pretending I sort of own the place, creating hatered and negativity all over this tribe and still at the same time keep on wondering why people are so nasty to me... Apparently you put smiling self portraits on all your mirrors, and you turn into an imbecile as soon as Travis comes around. If you weren't so disgusting and vulgar, I'd pity you.> How nice that you have a full-time job, which I no doubt will have again at some point. Meanwhile, it is rather nice to be able to stay at home for a while and not sweat much financially. But you are quite right ~ even with this free time that I am presently enjoying, speaking to you is not something I should even consider doing since it is clear that you have nothing of any value to offer and that you are just a waste of time ~ even free time. Tue, 26 May 2009 21:23:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#43d2c040-03b8-4fe1-82b2-8b0e52877fe4 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T21:23:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fc57e3cc-0247-46d6-acdf-a25cd682fb4d Amiablehermit, you said: "LOL! Excuse me? To whom are you speaking? Certainly it can't be to me. You are too lightweight to even take semi-seriously." I personally wouldn't even dream of speaking to someone too lightweight to even take semi-seriously. But then again I have a fulltime job, so I cannot spend the entire day behind my screen, bossing around everyone who isn't "amiable" to me, pretending I sort of own the place, creating hatered and negativity all over this tribe and still at the same time keep on wondering why people are so nasty to me... Apparently you put smiling self portraits on all your mirrors, and you turn into an imbecile as soon as Travis comes around. If you weren't so disgusting and vulgar, I'd pity you. Tue, 26 May 2009 20:58:50 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fc57e3cc-0247-46d6-acdf-a25cd682fb4d Unsubconscious 2009-05-26T20:58:50Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eba87711-b1b2-4309-b3d0-aeca5daaac81 That's true too, that's why I try to focus more on the positives instead of the negatives :) Tue, 26 May 2009 19:17:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eba87711-b1b2-4309-b3d0-aeca5daaac81 Heather 2009-05-26T19:17:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#04951325-a05b-4df2-9285-1815d9505690 Brendan, you wrote: "Surprise! Unsubscribed over here is some coward's alt. There's a new word for Webster's 2010. alt (n), a: worthless coward who has to hide behind a hiding place in order to speak his/her mind It's become obvious to me that worthwhile folks are out there, understand my ultimate point clear as a whistle, and now I'm just spinning my wheels with a few depleted chromosomes." Why is that such a surprise? Everyone here knows I'm an alt of God; I stated that in my profile myself. Apart from that, I don't understand why you are so excited about my presence. Do you seriously think I could feel offended by your words? Come on! I've seen bigger shit than just some guy calling me names - we did that in kindergarten if I remember well. Tue, 26 May 2009 18:53:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#04951325-a05b-4df2-9285-1815d9505690 Unsubconscious 2009-05-26T18:53:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b13d4d45-1feb-48a5-b154-219b53dbec08 We all need some of FaF's delicious deviled eggs. Tue, 26 May 2009 18:13:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b13d4d45-1feb-48a5-b154-219b53dbec08 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T18:13:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa8fd2a2-d7c1-4c6c-aeaa-34b502b2ac25 <the scorp kind likes to expose foul deceitful passive-aggressive apologizer like you and make the nice naive folks awareof your sick cunning mind game.> Do you even know what passive-aggressive means? Because it is very clear that there is nothing passive about Brendan's aggression toward you. Tue, 26 May 2009 18:11:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa8fd2a2-d7c1-4c6c-aeaa-34b502b2ac25 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T18:11:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e7f40984-9729-4f54-b053-c942b72f80ac FaF, yes venus i think would be the focal point and as does the person who wrote the article... and that would make mars your son's focal point. ... for me it makes sense for the focal point to be the planet in the grand trine being opposed by a planet outside of the grand trine... if the grand trine by iteself is an easy flow of energy and energy taken for granted then a planet forming an oppositon would make you aware of this trine energy and use it with more awareness... to focus on a planet that is opposite a planet in a grand trine and not part of the grand trine is like ignoring your talents and gifts and focusing on the friction in one's life ;-) Tue, 26 May 2009 17:01:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e7f40984-9729-4f54-b053-c942b72f80ac $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T17:01:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2752be9a-0e84-48e9-9862-14c58d92e12a All this talk of sandwiches is making me hungry. Tue, 26 May 2009 16:59:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2752be9a-0e84-48e9-9862-14c58d92e12a UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T16:59:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#77e52af6-e8b8-414e-b37a-45d590e7e9d7 I think we are on the same page Makaranda, And so, as I understand it, the planet opposed that IS part of the trine is the focal point. As illustrated in this case, http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/grandtrine_kite.shtml the focal point would be Venus? and in my Son's case, it would be Mars, as I stated before.... http://people.tribe.net/1bcd04bf-d092-432a-93ff-249f20c2dc1b/photos/74210362-90d9-4091-821c-bdc0e890e589 Paul's opinion confused me... Tue, 26 May 2009 16:29:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#77e52af6-e8b8-414e-b37a-45d590e7e9d7 ~FaF~ 2009-05-26T16:29:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e5b5b7ec-cb5b-482e-ad99-40b300d79056 You're right. Capricorn is all about respecting others, and making their lives easier. Capricorn is one of the least selfish signs in the zodiac. The only bad thing I could say about Capricorn is that making things easier or being too professional can sometimes makes things less interesting. That's why some signs can have a hard time with their seriousness, but I really think it's a great sign. I have two main planets in Aries, one in Gemini, both signs being quite impulsive and I also have one planet in the spaced-out Pisces. My Capricorn moon is very good for keeping me grounded. It doesn't make me a better person, but it adds another layer to my character. People generally have a hard time to pick up my Aries qualities, because it's more subtle. Tue, 26 May 2009 16:29:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e5b5b7ec-cb5b-482e-ad99-40b300d79056 Alex 2009-05-26T16:29:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e9c790d-489b-43da-ba47-17db0a83e1ba ""Yeah, and I was being sarcastic. You too have to learn to read between the lines,Ms. Laux. It seems you have a long way to go until you become a Jedi." the scorp kind likes to expose foul deceitful passive-aggressive apologizer like you and make the nice naive folks awareof your sick cunning mind game. Tue, 26 May 2009 16:20:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6e9c790d-489b-43da-ba47-17db0a83e1ba Laux 2009-05-26T16:20:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4cb0ea21-de5e-484f-b727-388b0a081745 As it is now. Is there a point? Tue, 26 May 2009 16:19:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4cb0ea21-de5e-484f-b727-388b0a081745 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T16:19:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a2f31118-7ce1-4596-968c-384d70824bbe Uncanny ~ I was just thinking about how I need some mayonnaise. Tue, 26 May 2009 16:18:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a2f31118-7ce1-4596-968c-384d70824bbe amiablehermit 2009-05-26T16:18:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a4796c71-673b-4899-b27c-00ac3b00101e FaF, the descriptions i have read on the focal point in kites is confusing... but from what i have read i think it is the planet in the grand trine that is being opposed and the planet that is not part of the grand trine that forms the opposition is what causes friction, action and or awareness of the energy in the grand trine that can be taken for granted. Tue, 26 May 2009 16:14:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a4796c71-673b-4899-b27c-00ac3b00101e $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T16:14:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3f2063d7-c51a-42c4-b5ce-7ff316fdbd6b "I. CANT. WATCH. " I know. it's just awful. All we can do is pray that someone of Laux..sorry of Low.. Intelligence will cut that sandwich in half, and not triangles (because everyone knows that triangle sandwiches taste nicer). If the intelligence is particularly Low, there'll be no crisps (or chips for you americans!) added to the side, cos if that happens, then I shudder to think what the consequences might be? What will be next? Chicken sandwiches? Ham? Is there no end to the madness!!! Tue, 26 May 2009 16:04:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3f2063d7-c51a-42c4-b5ce-7ff316fdbd6b Paul 2009-05-26T16:04:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#de998268-eeec-4a05-bbc8-407ddf15425a When my son was younger, he was always acting as "class policeman" much to his detriment....I think he has learned to keep that under wraps... No one is willing to answer my question about a focal point of kite? To be clear, I am not asking about my son's kite, just which side of a kite is the focal point... Tue, 26 May 2009 16:02:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#de998268-eeec-4a05-bbc8-407ddf15425a ~FaF~ 2009-05-26T16:02:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5450aa04-658d-423b-bf3e-60896771bb71 "Combined they would be pretty powerful folks. " Oh right, yeah, with you now!! Tue, 26 May 2009 16:00:17 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5450aa04-658d-423b-bf3e-60896771bb71 Paul 2009-05-26T16:00:17Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3d6529a2-bf24-4449-b011-efe0af1af293 Nooo oh noooo!!!!! :-o I. CANT. WATCH. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:58:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3d6529a2-bf24-4449-b011-efe0af1af293 UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T15:58:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#243ee195-354f-46cb-ac52-7963ba8f94ef Yeah but they were Cappys! So Pluto was conj. their Asc, moon, etc... Combined they would be pretty powerful folks. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:57:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#243ee195-354f-46cb-ac52-7963ba8f94ef UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T15:57:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#74a135a0-c039-4eb1-bcb7-6f39ecc97ff3 'Pure evil. You definitely need some Neptune/Pisces in your life.' he's beyond help now. Before we know it he will be adding red onion and lettuce to that sandwich, and then there'll be no stopping him!! Tue, 26 May 2009 15:56:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#74a135a0-c039-4eb1-bcb7-6f39ecc97ff3 Paul 2009-05-26T15:56:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a5528d00-5f5a-47a4-8c65-dbc3876f0af0 "First, I'm going to manipulate some bread, mayo, and tunafish into making itself a sandwich while I look on pleased with my power over food items." Manipulating even the poor defenceless mayo!!!???!!! does it get more evil than this? No doubt you will be building your sandwich like you build your plans for company domination, starting with the poor bread and butter of the company, applying the slightly more creative mayo and finally layering this all off with the brains of the operation wafting of the scent of power - the tunafish (it should be noted that power and fish smell very similar, capricorn is part fish after all). Tue, 26 May 2009 15:55:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a5528d00-5f5a-47a4-8c65-dbc3876f0af0 Paul 2009-05-26T15:55:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#10a2ddf4-2622-45aa-9934-60f90db1b044 "Don't forget Pluto was in Cap then. The USA natal chart has Pluto in Cap. They had the power to do all they wanted. " Perhaps but Pluto was in Capricorn for everyone else as well. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:52:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#10a2ddf4-2622-45aa-9934-60f90db1b044 Paul 2009-05-26T15:52:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#114794a3-bf5c-46cb-a2e3-7c8edccf12c1 Pure evil. You definitely need some Neptune/Pisces in your life. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:51:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#114794a3-bf5c-46cb-a2e3-7c8edccf12c1 UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T15:51:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e634d3de-4c56-4ea0-b78d-f619c21d34ac <<<<<<Think of the revolutionary leader and founding fathers of America's history for example. Thomas Jefferson - Asc Cap, George Washington - Cap Moon, Benjamin Franklin - Cap Sun. None of these people were people who played safely within nice little systems. They completely rewrote the rule book. They weren't sitting around comfortably showing off how they can play safely in a system, they were rewriting history.>>>>>> Don't forget Pluto was in Cap then. The USA natal chart has Pluto in Cap. They had the power to do all they wanted. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:50:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e634d3de-4c56-4ea0-b78d-f619c21d34ac UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T15:50:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#53498177-0a27-420c-aff3-525ae9431b4b Yeah, and I was being sarcastic. You too have to learn to read between the lines,Ms. Laux. It seems you have a long way to go until you become a Jedi. Now, on with your sermon! I regret that I must go to work today and hamstring people, dominate my coworkers, intimidate the mailman, coldly size up the pecking order, strategize my ruthless ascent to power, etc etc etc. First, I'm going to manipulate some bread, mayo, and tunafish into making itself a sandwich while I look on pleased with my power over food items. That's right, lots of mayo! Excellent... Tue, 26 May 2009 15:47:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#53498177-0a27-420c-aff3-525ae9431b4b $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T15:47:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7da83d3e-028f-4ea6-8250-9273927079b0 "your foul manipulative mind game can't fool smart folks. " That's true, but try not to feel too left out. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:36:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7da83d3e-028f-4ea6-8250-9273927079b0 Paul 2009-05-26T15:36:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ec7ba800-074d-4f3a-a41b-97cb58fc5775 "Yes, thank you. Every once in a while it's good to wake up and smell my own foul manipulative odor. I regret not seeing the depth the your genius until now. All of your observations are 100% accurate. I'm going to pour myself a passive aggressive cup of coffee, read some self help books, and cut myself. Do you know any good life coaches that can brain-zap me back into an acceptable frame of mind? I'm going to need all the help I can get!" didn't you say this earlier? your foul manipulative mind game can't fool smart folks. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:32:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ec7ba800-074d-4f3a-a41b-97cb58fc5775 Laux 2009-05-26T15:32:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7a57555b-9861-4bb3-b565-19cc4bec05d4 "Yes, thank you. Every once in a while it's good to wake up and smell my own foul manipulative odor. I regret not seeing the depth the your genius until now. All of your observations are 100% accurate. I'm going to pour myself a passive aggressive cup of coffee, read some self help books, and cut myself. Do you know any good life coaches that can brain-zap me back into an acceptable frame of mind? I'm going to need all the help I can get!" didn't you say this earlier? your foul manipulative mind game can't fool smart folks. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:32:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7a57555b-9861-4bb3-b565-19cc4bec05d4 Laux 2009-05-26T15:32:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1dbf5542-91fc-4333-8955-aa64f19f3e91 "That's so true. Every sign has it's negative side. And if we choose to dwell on the negatives than that's up to us, but if we dwell on others negatives than others will probably dwell on our negatives." If we dwell on negativity, all we're left with is a big bucket of negative emotion. How can we be surprised when we find negativity when we actively go looking for it? It's such common sense that it is astounding that it isn't immediately obvious to anyone. If you keep searching for the bad, you will find it. Simple as. Trying searching for the good as well, and see if you are equal to the task. Every placement has its good points and bad points, but nobody is the incarnation of one planet's placement. None of us are "Moon in Capricorn" incarnated. The other planets didn't conveniently disappear for our birth, we have them all. Focusing on one aspect of the person and then using that one aspect to make uninformed suppositions of that person's entire character is logical fallacy and not only that, it is rude, dangerous and bigotted. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:07:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1dbf5542-91fc-4333-8955-aa64f19f3e91 Paul 2009-05-26T15:07:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a27bbacf-e697-40f0-9db2-d60084ae58c1 I associate Laux with cowards who wont post their charts for equal opportunity scrutiny. Come on Laux, let's see that glass house from which you're throwing stones. I want to start a thread that just focuses on the negative aspects of your moon, Ms. Laux. You can dish it out but you cn't take it, eh? Figures. Cowards are a dime a dozen. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:05:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a27bbacf-e697-40f0-9db2-d60084ae58c1 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T15:05:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6de09339-ea8b-44f5-a3aa-40a41debb753 "I often associate cap moons with system, rules, organization, in which they can play safely and demonstrate that they fit into the system better than others." Play safely in the system to show off? Moon in Cap like George Washington and Che Guevarra? Really? I wouldn't confuse fitting and playing safely within a structure to prove to other people that they can do this, with an ability to recognise and understand systems and the natural route to progression (or indeed flaws and faults) within that system. Capricorn types are good with systems and good at recognising power (a trait they share with scorpio) and are particularly well adapted to using systems to their own advantage, or to the advantage of matters close to their heart. However they often are aware that the system has its flaws and may need to be changed. This is true of Cap Sun, Moon or Asc depdning on house or aspect etc etc. Think of the revolutionary leader and founding fathers of America's history for example. Thomas Jefferson - Asc Cap, George Washington - Cap Moon, Benjamin Franklin - Cap Sun. None of these people were people who played safely within nice little systems. They completely rewrote the rule book. They weren't sitting around comfortably showing off how they can play safely in a system, they were rewriting history. "When they are with the naive weaker kinds, they make their own systems and rules, which they expect others to follow. " So who is weaker and more naive? Tue, 26 May 2009 15:03:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6de09339-ea8b-44f5-a3aa-40a41debb753 Paul 2009-05-26T15:03:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#18c10a4a-ca4f-4dd3-9269-178844a18df4 "I think anyone who can only see the negative side of any aspect, sign or position of any planet is clearly not a well rounded individual. Does the Capricorn Moon placement have a negative side to it? Yes of course. Does every other moon? Definitely. " That's so true. Every sign has it's negative side. And if we choose to dwell on the negatives than that's up to us, but if we dwell on others negatives than others will probably dwell on our negatives. Tue, 26 May 2009 15:00:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#18c10a4a-ca4f-4dd3-9269-178844a18df4 Heather 2009-05-26T15:00:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e2167907-d3f6-4948-a8a3-6e0e35a4b9ce I often associate cap moons with system, rules, organization, in which they can play safely and demonstrate that they fit into the system better than others. When they are with the naive weaker kinds, they make their own systems and rules, which they expect others to follow. I associate scorps with instinct and jungle in which they hunt and fight for power by instinct. Tue, 26 May 2009 14:51:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e2167907-d3f6-4948-a8a3-6e0e35a4b9ce Laux 2009-05-26T14:51:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4f9cd017-722e-46a3-8fbc-2c83d03c4281 no we are not crap at emotions and cancers better at it.... cancers can be too emotional so there we are better.... Tue, 26 May 2009 14:33:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4f9cd017-722e-46a3-8fbc-2c83d03c4281 bertil 2009-05-26T14:33:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8c11125a-3a1e-4443-90d3-18c327537409 I only brought up the question because my feeling was that some people had a different view of respect or were using the word differently than myself. Tue, 26 May 2009 13:23:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8c11125a-3a1e-4443-90d3-18c327537409 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T13:23:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#89fb71b2-520e-4fc6-b524-82bb3ef3dacc I don't know ... I think cap moon can have its shadow like anyone else. But I think the distance thing is an equal opportunity thing - whether you are "above or below them" so to speak. In my experience, even when I was at the absolute bottom, I felt that by giving respect myself, I usually got it back in return with capricorn folks. My view of respect is not quite like a monetary exchange - more like a response or a basic intrinsic thing to human people. It isn't something that people have to work to earn with me as much as it is something that can be lost with repeated extreme behaviors. Tue, 26 May 2009 13:22:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#89fb71b2-520e-4fc6-b524-82bb3ef3dacc $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T13:22:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#82b53043-a8e4-404f-806d-91d1f48d77b5 "Think about suicide counselors, hostage negotiaters, psychotherapists, etc etc." Or make it simpler. Think of architects, interior designers, revolutionary leaders (lincoln, washington), comedians, home workers, old-age carers, etc etc etc the list goes on. Tue, 26 May 2009 08:13:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#82b53043-a8e4-404f-806d-91d1f48d77b5 Paul 2009-05-26T08:13:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#33cfe1b1-49a6-4576-b063-2345a435d6a4 I think anyone who can only see the negative side of any aspect, sign or position of any planet is clearly not a well rounded individual. Does the Capricorn Moon placement have a negative side to it? Yes of course. Does every other moon? Definitely. So to all who have insulted the Cap Moon position, name me one position of the moon that is without flaws please? Tue, 26 May 2009 08:00:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#33cfe1b1-49a6-4576-b063-2345a435d6a4 Paul 2009-05-26T08:00:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5544f0a2-a069-4bea-9a27-0ed4238ebceb "That was in reply to Brendan's post. You are wrong. I don't take side as I don't like to be tied down to any group or gang. " Erm Andrea Your very first posts on this thread and to the best of my knowledge, this tribe, were ", the one who has been doing gang up attack was you. " "This tribe is full of your putrid insults" "Your mouthful dirty insulting language shows your low wit. " All directed toward one person. That's right, this is Andrea who DOESN'T take sides. Ok. Tue, 26 May 2009 07:52:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5544f0a2-a069-4bea-9a27-0ed4238ebceb Paul 2009-05-26T07:52:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d321a239-862a-4ec6-b65e-7f6d7ab68ab8 'I ask again, WTF is wrong with you people that ANYONE with a certain astrological aspect is fair game to totally trash? My God ~ like you don't know that this is the very sort of thing that breeds the kind of thing that Nazis were about. Pick a trait and kill the person. Or, if you can't kill them, insult them, humiliate them, ridicule them, but certainly don't try to hear, understand, or believe them when they say you have it wrong. You should be asking yourself with the hell is the matter with YOU that, despite what these people are saying and demonstrating about themselves ~ the rational and accomplished Lady Saber, the kind and generous-hearted makaranda, and the reasoned and flexible Brendan ~ registers nothing to any of you hidebound bigots. It is a disgusting display, and I will continue to object to it for as long as I can before I just become so disgusted that I wash my hands of the lot of you.' I've been reading other threads in this tribe. This tribe is full of your putrid insult on scorp moons. Tue, 26 May 2009 06:32:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d321a239-862a-4ec6-b65e-7f6d7ab68ab8 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T06:32:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#10c177b5-7257-4d40-89c4-ade86afa4148 Read between the lines, amiablehermit Tue, 26 May 2009 06:14:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#10c177b5-7257-4d40-89c4-ade86afa4148 Laux 2009-05-26T06:14:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c9d8c28d-ff7b-4b29-b2fa-4ad8194b41d2 "As level headed as I have sounded in all my posts, I can understand why some Cappy moons have reason to feel indignant and how things can easily get out of hand and become a bitchfest. It all has to do with use of words like superiority... perhaps it's not so much superiority but I think Cappy's detachment. They deal with everything from a distance but effectively so and especially i..." Ladysaber, I appreciate your valuable opinions. I agree that most cap moons deal with things with more reasoning and less emotion. Some cap moons r good advisers and analysers. Tue, 26 May 2009 05:24:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c9d8c28d-ff7b-4b29-b2fa-4ad8194b41d2 Laux 2009-05-26T05:24:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#38770b12-1b4a-41d5-a989-176d3b8ab36b Your level of intelligence couldn't even tell to whom I was replying! LOL! Tue, 26 May 2009 05:01:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#38770b12-1b4a-41d5-a989-176d3b8ab36b amiablehermit 2009-05-26T05:01:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e822da83-70af-482e-9ea2-867d5152ff93 You guys ought to be careful. You've stumbled onto the secret plot of the Capricorn Moon Legion of Doom. It seems some of you need to be re-educated. Your brilliant deductions have caused a security breach, and the evil Saturnian power structures that keep lazy, mediocre people in boring, uninspiring positions has been threatened. After all, Saturn is going into Libra pretty soon, and our grand scheme for world domination will soon be realized. Tue, 26 May 2009 04:52:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e822da83-70af-482e-9ea2-867d5152ff93 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T04:52:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7f27ed4f-6fd8-4fd9-aecb-147e958f44c3 "Brilliant. Like the object now is to DESTROY a Capricorn Moon. This just gets better and better." It's obvious Uranusinpisces was talking about how to cure their supeiority complex. Your level of intelligence prevents you from reading between lines. Tue, 26 May 2009 04:52:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7f27ed4f-6fd8-4fd9-aecb-147e958f44c3 Laux 2009-05-26T04:52:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b9d393ac-7ab3-4334-a540-e013a4031c7d riptide, thanks for the question. I noticed that cap moons might want the highest respect among a group; they do it by working hard and at the same time elevating themselves. They “reach down to people” but people need “a ticket or pass” to “reach up”to them. They might open up a bit to the ones who submit to them and who are absolutely harmless. One example, when people asked me for help, I gladly help without letting them know how much effort and how much time consumed on my part; when someone asks them for help, they would do it but they make sure to let you know that they are terribly busy (whether true or not) and you would feel terribly sorry for asking them. In any case, they position themselves as boss in their heads. Respect is mutual, but the amount of respect they want must be higher than other people’s need. It could be a matter of positions they place themselves that they are competing for or the amount of respect. Tue, 26 May 2009 04:40:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b9d393ac-7ab3-4334-a540-e013a4031c7d Laux 2009-05-26T04:40:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#58b55834-0f3e-4c95-9568-7b8479229aa1 Depends what tactics you use I guess. If others don't like your tactics then you will most likely lose respect. This is why Capricorn is all about manipulating/managing/controlling ones environment (and themselves and others) in order to acquire resources, status and success. It's not all about going in and exerting your power like Leo and its a lot less "raw" or honest or hidden than Scorpio. It's a controlled show that everyone can see. Instead of cutting everyone down and receiving backlash one can just work harder/better/longer and therefore be the only one/first one standing at the top. Or you can strategize how best to get more respect than others-and keep it. Think "social climber". Another reason Saturn is exalted in Libra. Or, like someone else said, I do think many Cappy archetypes enter an environment filled with weaker/less smart/less competent/younger people so that they can become the most realistic choice for a leader. But yeah, either way their value goes up in comparison to everyone else. So they get to the same place but I guess the road they take can determine whether they stay. And staying power is what is really important to these people. Tue, 26 May 2009 04:37:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#58b55834-0f3e-4c95-9568-7b8479229aa1 UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T04:37:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2c7903b9-30e7-4e07-81cf-e82b30dc5f57 Sounds to me like you could use a dose of those better traits of humanity yourself. Tue, 26 May 2009 03:58:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2c7903b9-30e7-4e07-81cf-e82b30dc5f57 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T03:58:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9867384e-c2cc-4758-ad58-ab6d5a3ce3da So do you have a running exchange rate for respect? So like ... if you were to manage to cut down the value of the respect everyone else has in your proximity ... would it make yours worth more? Tue, 26 May 2009 03:54:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9867384e-c2cc-4758-ad58-ab6d5a3ce3da $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T03:54:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b983ccd0-afdb-44c8-9bf1-fafa4a25c3bd You should be sorry. I am taking the heat here, but you will no doubt get away with that kind of clear defamation and be stroked for it. I ask again, WTF is wrong with you people that ANYONE with a certain astrological aspect is fair game to totally trash? My God ~ like you don't know that this is the very sort of thing that breeds the kind of thing that Nazis were about. Pick a trait and kill the person. Or, if you can't kill them, insult them, humiliate them, ridicule them, but certainly don't try to hear, understand, or believe them when they say you have it wrong. You should be asking yourself with the hell is the matter with YOU that, despite what these people are saying and demonstrating about themselves ~ the rational and accomplished Lady Saber, the kind and generous-hearted makaranda, and the reasoned and flexible Brendan ~ registers nothing to any of you hidebound bigots. It is a disgusting display, and I will continue to object to it for as long as I can before I just become so disgusted that I wash my hands of the lot of you. Tue, 26 May 2009 03:53:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b983ccd0-afdb-44c8-9bf1-fafa4a25c3bd amiablehermit 2009-05-26T03:53:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#071c0c27-b713-421b-bfa7-4410c51e26f3 <<<<<Maybe respect means different things to different people ... or different people demand different things before yielding their respect?>>>>> Yeah that's basically it. Some people equate respect with authority, maturity, competence and self-worth. Respect to them is like currency rather than an expression. The more they have the more value they have-especially in comparison with other people. Tue, 26 May 2009 03:52:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#071c0c27-b713-421b-bfa7-4410c51e26f3 UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T03:52:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b3ec219-379c-45c0-b07b-4adfd02f4347 >>> They seem to constantly have competition with others for respect >>> I think respect grows fastest when it is shared between people mutually. I find the idea of competing for it confusing - it is barely registering in my mind to conceive of competing for it ... If I respect one person more - it doesn't mean I have to respect everyone else any less would it? Maybe respect means different things to different people ... or different people demand different things before yielding their respect? <confused> Tue, 26 May 2009 03:42:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b3ec219-379c-45c0-b07b-4adfd02f4347 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T03:42:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09eafd63-faaa-444a-8a5b-96cdf8f03ec0 'New to this tribe, I don't take side. I don't know the posting rule in this tribe yet. Enlighten me if you will. ' That was in reply to Brendan's post. You are wrong. I don't take side as I don't like to be tied down to any group or gang. Tue, 26 May 2009 03:35:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09eafd63-faaa-444a-8a5b-96cdf8f03ec0 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T03:35:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#48ed2d38-c6fa-439b-91c0-6ba784a71a31 My post wasn't even directed toward you, but to Uranus in Pisces. Are you getting a little paranoid now? Tue, 26 May 2009 03:20:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#48ed2d38-c6fa-439b-91c0-6ba784a71a31 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T03:20:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#08e49fbc-7d0b-4683-a548-c336c3e68788 >>> I wasn't offended, just a little annoyed. Maybe it's my romantical Venus in Pisces view on people, but I choose to believe that all signs are equal, and that Capricorn Moon is just as desireable as Cancer Moon. I just have a hard time accepting opinions that downplay 1/12 of the human population. >>> Cancer moon has its ups and downs all its own! Emotional overload ... mothering motherliness .... these are things that I have to watch in myself. >>> And I think you're twisting the concept of Caps needing respect. In fact, respect is not what we need. We need to feel useful. We need to know that we are contributing something, that we aren't draining others, or in some way making their life harder. The worst possible situation for a Capricorn is to be in a situation where they have no experience. Where Sagittarius's are excited at the new and unknown, we fear it. There's nothing we fear more than embarrassing ourselves. Recieving praise is a way to know that you're useful, but we never accept praise that we have received by manipulative means. Of course you would have to be a Capricorn yourself to validate this, but it's true nonetheless. You just have to trust my honesty. Whenever I receive praise, it's always my first reaction to put down my own contribution, either by giving the recognition to someone else, or by pointing out how easy it really is, or how bad I am compared to someone else. >>> I don't know if I see praise and respect as the same thing ... praise seems to go with being above and beyond or somehow impressive ... respect seems to go along with things like dependability, leadership by example, being well qualified for a position, making consistently good decisions, doing what you say you will do ... things like that. At least that is how I see respect. I think that the process of not absorbing praise in an ego-inflating way could relate to a level of respect for the team as a whole and the business, profession, field, or other greater goal or structure outside of yourself. >>> My grandfather is a Capricorn Sun, and he once told me his outlook on work. He told me to always work hard so that my boss would hire me again. What he said is very typical a Capricorn. Instead of working hard enough not to be fired, you should work so hard that the boss see you as a valuable asset to his team, someone he would gladly re-hire in the future. >>> To me this sounds a lot like my concept of respect. Your grandfather being respected and his work being respected because of his hard work. It doesn't sound like he is trying to get praise or get on top ... just trying to be not just hanging on but respected and valued by his boss - not like a star employee but like someone he can trust and doesn't regret bringing on board. >>> Anyway, approaching people is not Capricorns forte, especially not us Capricorn moons. As I said, all the Capricorn moons I know, are shy. I can't remember when I was called cold for the first time, but I remember how shocked I was upon hearing it. Deep down I'm a silent little lamb, but I get the impression that I intimidate people, or make them feel awkward, so it's easy to just avoid them. There's sooooo many cute girls I have "avoided" because I didn't want to "blow it" by being too nervous around them, and I do this to other people to a lesser extent as well. The ultimate reason is because I don't feel adequate enough to face them, not because I don't respect them. >>> I wouldn't say not approaching them is from a lack of respect for them ... maybe respecting yourself would be something to look at ... or maybe not ... but it would depend on the situation most likely! >>> Have you considered the fact that maybe you are reading "us" wrong. First of all, we misrepresent ourselves a lot. I know two specific girls my age who tries to approach me now and then, but it's just... It feels like there's a mutual failure to connect with the other person. I'm not attracted to them, but I have a hard time to communicate with most people, unless we have something specific to talk about. Most people doesn't have this problem, and that's why my behaviour might be a little intimidating to them. To them, not wanting to initiate a conversation probably means something in the likes of: "I don't care about you, just leave me alone". But what is really going on is me panicking on the inside, because of not being able to pick up the handbook on how I handle these situations. >>> It can be hard to expect ones self to get it right and perfect (mastered) the first time. Most folks are a bit forgiving and understanding of awkwardness because they understand that they went through a learning process, too (I said MOST hehe ... ) and can remember when they said the wrong thing or something like that when they see someone else going through it. Last I checked the handbook doesn't exist ... but maybe I just didn't look hard enough or someone threw it away at some point in human history - who knows! Tue, 26 May 2009 03:19:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#08e49fbc-7d0b-4683-a548-c336c3e68788 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T03:19:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4621ef2a-88ec-4ce2-88b5-81db34852769 So now you are backing off. Interesting. There are no rules here, girlfriend. We have a totally absent mod, and it is basically everyone for himself. So if you dish it out, be prepared to take it, too. Under ideal circumstances, you will find a sincere thread where someone with a genuinely ~ and usually personally ~ important question will create a thread to sort something out or compare notes with others. Then we have these other types of threads where people who want to bash some sign or aspect for the cheap fun of it just posts something to get the ball rolling ~ this one being a case in point. We are also infested with trolls and alts of trolls since, with no mod, they can have a field day trashing everyone in sight, regardless of whether they know them or not. For example, we have a certain affection and hostility here toward a nut job Italian guy who calls himself Lord of the Zodiac (Klaudio Zic) who papers this place with numerous threads (Nine just the other day in the span of a few minutes by my counting) regularly promoting his own version of astrology that he never really explains to anyone. He also only interacts with his army of alts in the guise of European fashion models, and Joni Mitchell, to whom he gives exalted and tongue-twisting aristocratic names and who post threads and talk to each other. Welcome to a nut house. I hope you get something out of it. Some of us actually do from time to time, but basically this place is kind of a snake pit, or so it has become in the months that I have belonged to it. Tue, 26 May 2009 03:19:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4621ef2a-88ec-4ce2-88b5-81db34852769 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T03:19:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#37c5167d-be6c-438f-8985-a2a546bec529 "Brilliant. Like the object now is to DESTROY a Capricorn Moon. This just gets better and better." Amiable are you trying to incite hatred towards me? What is the purpose of this particular sentence? Tue, 26 May 2009 03:04:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#37c5167d-be6c-438f-8985-a2a546bec529 Laux 2009-05-26T03:04:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#243ef6af-a909-4e11-9a62-97fc02a22d0d It seems like Andrea is an alt or an agent of Laux. I could be wrong, of course... Tue, 26 May 2009 03:02:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#243ef6af-a909-4e11-9a62-97fc02a22d0d $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T03:02:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a9815489-3ebc-4b04-890b-8cf5ab911073 I'm sorry but I have my qualms with Capricorn moons as well. I think Neptune-Moon conjunctions are one of the strongest in synastry. Only Neptune can cure the coldness, rigidity, and pointless heartlessness that many a times comes with valuing (above all else) the mountain climb towards the peak of soulless earthly goals. After all is said and done we can't take it with us. There's a use for Capricornian traits but not if it devalues the better traits of humanity (love, compassion) and stops a person from experiencing the spiritual and emotional truths of life. Neptune gives one that unconditional warmth and security that most of us experienced in the womb and before are souls entered our body. Cappy moons need that out of body and out of world experience to get away from the shit that make them sell their own mothers for success. Hah! Sorry just had to put in the last part.....lol. Tue, 26 May 2009 03:01:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a9815489-3ebc-4b04-890b-8cf5ab911073 UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T03:01:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#084046eb-eae0-4bbf-bce2-e999f90d7ad8 New to this tribe, I don't take side. I don't know the posting rule in this tribe yet. Enlighten me if you will. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:52:59 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#084046eb-eae0-4bbf-bce2-e999f90d7ad8 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T02:52:59Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0b9dc97e-60f3-4277-93f2-fb13f5ee8849 Brilliant. Like the object now is to DESTROY a Capricorn Moon. This just gets better and better. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:50:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0b9dc97e-60f3-4277-93f2-fb13f5ee8849 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T02:50:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dc5b3382-268b-45aa-8ddc-c39cba009437 Who's the alt, Brendan? Tue, 26 May 2009 02:48:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dc5b3382-268b-45aa-8ddc-c39cba009437 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T02:48:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#629985a0-e970-4f76-b0e9-d3abffa1577a If you are so new to this tribe, then I don't see how you think you know me well enough to judge me. Ah! Well, yes. You have a Scorpio Moon, don't you. By the logic that this thread started out with, I can say that that explains you completely. Honestly, girl ~ read the thread. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:47:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#629985a0-e970-4f76-b0e9-d3abffa1577a amiablehermit 2009-05-26T02:47:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab50f284-723b-4049-af40-51302b18bc59 <As far as I see, the one who has been doing gang up attack was you. > First of all, a gang is not one person. Second, you couldn't have read this thread very well. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:44:01 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab50f284-723b-4049-af40-51302b18bc59 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T02:44:01Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#048033d6-2d6a-42eb-8257-9122924d49eb Amiablehermit Your mouthful dirty insulting language shows your low wit. You might get gang support by flattering or defending others, noding smilingly and greeting people here and there, but with your foul language you won't convince smart people, who can see through your sly tactic. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:43:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#048033d6-2d6a-42eb-8257-9122924d49eb $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T02:43:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4b75bca7-51fd-4859-b5ea-19267af2922b alt Tue, 26 May 2009 02:33:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4b75bca7-51fd-4859-b5ea-19267af2922b $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T02:33:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#98c3221a-9944-4576-af30-1061874743dc I discovered the secret to destroying the Capricorn moon a year and a half ago: Neptune. Neptune conjunct a Capricorn Moon person and they are faced with a force like nothing they've ever known! Works every time, trust me. You may not survive but neither will they! Tue, 26 May 2009 02:31:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#98c3221a-9944-4576-af30-1061874743dc UranusinPisces 2009-05-26T02:31:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bc888cbf-44c2-4583-8cb7-5c4cb28989e5 Hello, I am new to this tribe and I am a sagi with moon in scorp. The original post asked a good question. As a scorpio moon, I don't deny that I want power all the time. For some reason, scorpio types are very frank about being power hunger, but capricorn moons' power struggle is usually under the table. They don't admit it, either because it is a tactic or because they are not conscious about it. My father has moon in capricorn, and he told me once that deep insight his heart, he feels proud and superior to others but he has to hide it because people naturally don't like arrogent ones. We understand each other and try to respect each other. We know when to go forwards and when to withdraw so we don't intervene each other's sphere of respect. Amiablehermit, "I usually reserve myself for arguments of some wit and intelligence, unless I of course I see the pack circling around a friend for a gang up attack." As far as I see, the one who has been doing gang up attack was you. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:27:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bc888cbf-44c2-4583-8cb7-5c4cb28989e5 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T02:27:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#725e0dc7-5a21-4475-ae8f-ce2340dfc62c "And people say we are manipulative, and feel that we deserve more than everybody else... Capricorn is the opposite of that. " I agree because my best friend is a Capricorn (she's a Capricorn Sun, not Moon. She has a Scorpio Moon though).. and she does not fit the negative descriptions people are saying here at all. She's pretty much the opposite. She's not manipulative at all, and doesn't act like she deserves more, etc. She's actually very sweet and sensitive. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:22:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#725e0dc7-5a21-4475-ae8f-ce2340dfc62c Heather 2009-05-26T02:22:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2bedc7dd-ddcc-412b-8a90-ac8313b686a9 I agree with Sherpa that it is true that the way that the post was worded had a lot to do with how the responses are being culled. However, I refrained from lashing back as Laux has been respectful of my posts. As level headed as I have sounded in all my posts, I can understand why some Cappy moons have reason to feel indignant and how things can easily get out of hand and become a bitchfest. It all has to do with use of words like superiority... perhaps it's not so much superiority but I think Cappy's detachment. They deal with everything from a distance but effectively so and especially if they can preempt emotion and reaction before it comes to being. That's why it seems that they are 'above' emotion and not reactive. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:20:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2bedc7dd-ddcc-412b-8a90-ac8313b686a9 Lady Saber 2009-05-26T02:20:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#56e146ac-a451-4c13-bab5-295034f48d21 << Yeah it somehow seems like the most disliked of the signs to me: the most austere, the least fun, nose-to-the-grindstone and throw in a bit of cold-heartedness... in much of the stuff I've read about it. I'm not really a big workaholic--- at all. I should be at work.. right now. Anyways. Again and again on the boards when Capricorn as a sign is being discussed there's this sentiment that they aren't being rightly represented, or that there is a big misunderstanding... that they are very sensitive and that there is some deep mystery connected with the sign. This is possibly the influence of all the other planets and houses and aspects and signs which soften the influence of Capricorn. I don't know enough about the subject. It seems that the connection with Saturn (SAtan!??! the judge--) coupled with a propensity to do whatever they want as long as they don't think anyone will find out- and then the ensuing guilt when people DO find out they've done something wrong-- makes Capricorns an easy/desirable target for derision and scorn, and probably rightly so, but also subject to deep melancholy, regret, and perhaps self-denial and the derision of the self. But I don't know enough what I'm talking about. Really. I would like to be corrected on those points, or for that thought of mine to be unfolded a bit, because I don't even know where it comes from. Someone was saying something about guilt up there which was interesting. I have to read this thread more closely. I'll post some more informed rambling in a bit? >> I think you know more about what you're talking about than you think. It's very typical of a Capricorn to be insecure about their ideas and thoughts, atleast until they've been validated. Welcome to the club! :) Self-denial... this is so true. I think all Caps can relate to that word. The feeling of being able to reach something, but feeling unworthy, or "not ready". And people say we are manipulative, and feel that we deserve more than everybody else... Capricorn is the opposite of that. Tue, 26 May 2009 02:15:22 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#56e146ac-a451-4c13-bab5-295034f48d21 Alex 2009-05-26T02:15:22Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#45e24a35-3e16-4bd5-9c0c-efd2d74e585c Obviously we are dealing with a (chartless) person of <cough> superior intellect and an amazing facility with language. OMG, dude, we are so out-classed by this crabby Cancer person that we should just, like, you know, go off somewhere and eat worms and stepped-on Swedish meatballs. Man, you know, I am so quaking in my boots and ready to piss my pants in fear that, like, you know, she is going to actually be able to, like, READ me. I mean, really. She is so awesome in her way of just fine-tuning her analyses into, like, a laser-like precision. She is totally rad, man. Got us all pegged, I am so sure. We could just, like, fucking leave this thread to die, you know, but, I mean, really ~ she is just so mesmerizing that I can hardly keep my pants on waiting to hear what she says next! Tue, 26 May 2009 02:07:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#45e24a35-3e16-4bd5-9c0c-efd2d74e585c amiablehermit 2009-05-26T02:07:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b4ec6851-20be-4f6b-a0a8-18913ed2e740 "Brendan, she changed the topic to inferiority, I thought that's where she placed herself." Oh no, those are your words, sweetie. You called her "inferior". "I don't call people inferior but her." It's like talking to a four-year old, lol! Tue, 26 May 2009 02:03:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b4ec6851-20be-4f6b-a0a8-18913ed2e740 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T02:03:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9531ae01-0fbe-4154-bf9a-388bb5b9c1f1 Your original post was a dig from the get go. You insult everyone's intelligence here, and as I said, you are too much of a coward to post your own chart. My comment was posted before I even saw Dion's ~ an invitation to lend your less than adept knowledge of astrology to interpreting my chart and finding where my general animosity toward Scorpio Moons lies. The caveat is that you actually have to exercise some intelligence in the process. So, knock yourself out. You have an aversion to Capricorn Moons ~ let's see if we can expand that to Leo Suns, Aqua Moons, Pisces Mars, and Cancer Venus ~ just for starters. We can work our way on to Scorp Saturns, Virgo Jupiters, and Libra Neptunes afterwards. My chart is posted. As I said, GO FOR IT. Tue, 26 May 2009 01:55:23 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#9531ae01-0fbe-4154-bf9a-388bb5b9c1f1 amiablehermit 2009-05-26T01:55:23Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#db1e6663-a644-4706-9768-0bf5690c6df4 "It is obvious you are defending an inferior kind. " Again with inferior! Can you manage not to be a hypocrite? Tue, 26 May 2009 01:52:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#db1e6663-a644-4706-9768-0bf5690c6df4 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T01:52:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2fe3a881-a70d-4799-879a-c98e90150f6d "So wait, now you're calling people inferior? Do you have a Capricorn Moon, lol? " Brendan, she changed the topic to inferiority, I thought that's where she placed herself. I don't call people inferior but her. Tue, 26 May 2009 01:52:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2fe3a881-a70d-4799-879a-c98e90150f6d Laux 2009-05-26T01:52:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#91caf584-5cfd-4919-881d-d8915b5b47c0 Paul, If you see logic in that foul ranter Amiablehermit's post, I can't help you. It is obvious you are defending an inferior kind. Tue, 26 May 2009 01:48:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#91caf584-5cfd-4919-881d-d8915b5b47c0 Laux 2009-05-26T01:48:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#15425933-3ae9-4d52-bc5b-fec0fe968179 amiablehermit, "If you want a crack at my chart, GO FOR IT" I didn't finish reading your old foul rant. this particular sentence demonstrated your inability to comprehend what I was saying. Dion wants my chart because he believes a chart explain a person's antipathy towards a particular planet, and since you said you have antipathy towards scorp moon, I asked if your chart has explained it. For your record, I haven't shown any antipathy towards any moon signs. Like I said, I posted a question here, and I agree with a few insightful post and appreciate cap moon's sharing of opinions and accepted Brendan's passive aggressive apology. There is not much antipathy there except towards an illogical ranting retard like you. Tue, 26 May 2009 01:41:17 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#15425933-3ae9-4d52-bc5b-fec0fe968179 Laux 2009-05-26T01:41:17Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ea3878f2-6be6-43c3-8a5d-7c0aba4781bd Kara ~ Sweetpea, sherpa and I were going off on the assholes generalizing and attacking Cap Moons. The original poster of this thread being but one of them. sherpa and i may "loathe" each other, but that doesn't keep us from agreeing that fools should not be suffered gladly. I think we are both able to agree with people we don't like, which, in my view, is a bit more evolved than the cretins here eliminating any possibility of understanding anyone by virtue of their ignorance and inability to listen to anything but their own thoughts. THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU. Tue, 26 May 2009 00:48:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ea3878f2-6be6-43c3-8a5d-7c0aba4781bd amiablehermit 2009-05-26T00:48:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#07db1f35-94a5-4a09-9fb1-b9ab039190de Paul~ I am afraid I resemble that remark! How dare you say that my posts verge on being foul and stretching to ranting! How blatant of you! Tue, 26 May 2009 00:40:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#07db1f35-94a5-4a09-9fb1-b9ab039190de amiablehermit 2009-05-26T00:40:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bfbc3ac3-ba54-40d9-b9d0-09f9e42aac5e No...More like We do the job. How they feel about it is going to depend on how the "job" fits into the overall success of the business ~ because it is about the business, not about the ego independent of the success of the whole, dude ~ there is no real success for them if the whole isn't succeeding is what I get from them. Tue, 26 May 2009 00:31:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bfbc3ac3-ba54-40d9-b9d0-09f9e42aac5e amiablehermit 2009-05-26T00:31:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d8e4b34a-d76a-48c2-b121-72dfcd0dbbd3 I wasn't offended, just a little annoyed. Maybe it's my romantical Venus in Pisces view on people, but I choose to believe that all signs are equal, and that Capricorn Moon is just as desireable as Cancer Moon. I just have a hard time accepting opinions that downplay 1/12 of the human population. And I think you're twisting the concept of Caps needing respect. In fact, respect is not what we need. We need to feel useful. We need to know that we are contributing something, that we aren't draining others, or in some way making their life harder. The worst possible situation for a Capricorn is to be in a situation where they have no experience. Where Sagittarius's are excited at the new and unknown, we fear it. There's nothing we fear more than embarrassing ourselves. Recieving praise is a way to know that you're useful, but we never accept praise that we have received by manipulative means. Of course you would have to be a Capricorn yourself to validate this, but it's true nonetheless. You just have to trust my honesty. Whenever I receive praise, it's always my first reaction to put down my own contribution, either by giving the recognition to someone else, or by pointing out how easy it really is, or how bad I am compared to someone else. My grandfather is a Capricorn Sun, and he once told me his outlook on work. He told me to always work hard so that my boss would hire me again. What he said is very typical a Capricorn. Instead of working hard enough not to be fired, you should work so hard that the boss see you as a valuable asset to his team, someone he would gladly re-hire in the future. Anyway, approaching people is not Capricorns forte, especially not us Capricorn moons. As I said, all the Capricorn moons I know, are shy. I can't remember when I was called cold for the first time, but I remember how shocked I was upon hearing it. Deep down I'm a silent little lamb, but I get the impression that I intimidate people, or make them feel awkward, so it's easy to just avoid them. There's sooooo many cute girls I have "avoided" because I didn't want to "blow it" by being too nervous around them, and I do this to other people to a lesser extent as well. The ultimate reason is because I don't feel adequate enough to face them, not because I don't respect them. Have you considered the fact that maybe you are reading "us" wrong. First of all, we misrepresent ourselves a lot. I know two specific girls my age who tries to approach me now and then, but it's just... It feels like there's a mutual failure to connect with the other person. I'm not attracted to them, but I have a hard time to communicate with most people, unless we have something specific to talk about. Most people doesn't have this problem, and that's why my behaviour might be a little intimidating to them. To them, not wanting to initiate a conversation probably means something in the likes of: "I don't care about you, just leave me alone". But what is really going on is me panicking on the inside, because of not being able to pick up the handbook on how I handle these situations. What I'm saying is, what you're seeing is merely a illusion, it's a protective shield we put on. Shyness is the feeling of being inadequate, and what is the most important to a Capricorn? To be useful! Well, it's no wonder why we try so hard to hide our shyness behind a cold mask. Maybe that's the problem... Seriously, if I knew how to handle these anxieties I wouldn't even study astrology. Tue, 26 May 2009 00:27:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d8e4b34a-d76a-48c2-b121-72dfcd0dbbd3 Alex 2009-05-26T00:27:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6357236a-f04e-4eed-8636-2bd83f08a095 I did say some pretty stupid things in that last post. I believe it came off pretty differently than I meant it to. There was some really strong language and generalization and much bullshit... I thought I was listing the impressions I have gotten from reading around, not my real intuitive feelings about the sign.... I don't think that came across.... and I didn't make that clear at all. And now I sound like I'm trying to say I said something I didn't say, or didn't say something I did... oh well... Misunderstandings are really easy to come by around here. Anyways. Wish I'd been more careful too. Tue, 26 May 2009 00:21:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6357236a-f04e-4eed-8636-2bd83f08a095 inimi 2009-05-26T00:21:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd77fc3d-3fd2-4cda-8730-42d99cafeed2 Move on then-- I guess you might be talking to me, I don't know... I'm pretty clear on my own astrological muddiness, naivety and possibly/definitely stupidity, impressionability, and therefore probably totally ignorant assumptions, and pretty openly asked that I be corrected. Nobody's going to get any smarter if you don't help. Blathering on about how stupid and ignorant everyone is is a lot less productive than a couple of words on what you think the real way of it is. I don't know who you were referring to with that though.... again, probably me?... that's alright. My moon's in Capricorn too, and I don't think I'm bad. I'm just speculatin'. I'm starting to like it. Move right along though that's cool. Tue, 26 May 2009 00:18:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd77fc3d-3fd2-4cda-8730-42d99cafeed2 inimi 2009-05-26T00:18:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52b32680-56c5-4f9a-86f1-e9b48dae4dbe Surprise! Unsubscribed over here is some coward's alt. There's a new word for Webster's 2010. alt (n), a: worthless coward who has to hide behind a hiding place in order to speak his/her mind It's become obvious to me that worthwhile folks are out there, understand my ultimate point clear as a whistle, and now I'm just spinning my wheels with a few depleted chromosomes. Tue, 26 May 2009 00:03:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52b32680-56c5-4f9a-86f1-e9b48dae4dbe $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-26T00:03:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab3f8182-b99e-474d-87f9-c94a28d8d982 And those born with a Meatball Moon have opinions about other people that are drowning in brown sauce. Take a break. Get dessert. Pastry would be good for you. Mon, 25 May 2009 23:57:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ab3f8182-b99e-474d-87f9-c94a28d8d982 amiablehermit 2009-05-25T23:57:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2fec083b-ba9c-4283-b7f0-a9dc296aa81c "...but your foul illogical rant demonstrated you are inferior to anyone else on this thread." So wait, now you're calling people inferior? Do you have a Capricorn Moon, lol? Here I go being passive aggressive and manipulative again. Sheesh... Thankfully, I'm so superior that I know that my superiority complex is better than yours, so there! Mon, 25 May 2009 23:55:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2fec083b-ba9c-4283-b7f0-a9dc296aa81c $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T23:55:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#82c17495-b97d-4cea-aa5a-f3c38866aaab :) Mon, 25 May 2009 23:54:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#82c17495-b97d-4cea-aa5a-f3c38866aaab MaryEllen 2009-05-25T23:54:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3ee25a1-bbd1-4381-b946-87f57bf7ff06 Whenever I discuss Scorpio Suns and Scorpio Moons, I always say ~ but there is mem. Did that today, in fact, with scasco. You are a unique person, mem. And I always remain open-minded for exceptions to every "rule." Too bad some people around here are such blinded assholes that they don't do the same. Loving mem all~ways, amiablehermit Mon, 25 May 2009 23:51:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d3ee25a1-bbd1-4381-b946-87f57bf7ff06 amiablehermit 2009-05-25T23:51:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d8dff4a9-10e6-45f5-9433-d64df1fabfbc Exactly my point. What utter bosh. This level of astrology is what i throw in the trash, which is also basically the level of the posters of this drek. MOVING ON! Mon, 25 May 2009 23:46:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d8dff4a9-10e6-45f5-9433-d64df1fabfbc amiablehermit 2009-05-25T23:46:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#10635a65-2e68-4c48-881a-57daba87c5f0 Since this thread started out with such preposterous assumptions -- "capricorn moons want power?" -- it's no mystery how this intention attracted so much more of the same. Mon, 25 May 2009 23:38:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#10635a65-2e68-4c48-881a-57daba87c5f0 sherpa 2009-05-25T23:38:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#acdf5333-95b0-4f3d-848d-fb77784e2f6f WTF is wrong with you people? It's a friggin Moon you don't have and clearly don't understand and are just picking on because you have nothing more creative to do with yourselves. Hell, my chart's posted ~ have field day, but don't be too stupid with it or I assure you that there will be lots of shooting you in a barrel like a friggin fish. Is this tribe now populated with mainly trolls and assholes or what? Mon, 25 May 2009 23:28:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#acdf5333-95b0-4f3d-848d-fb77784e2f6f amiablehermit 2009-05-25T23:28:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8a457446-9372-4c93-8564-b97eeed020f0 I don't know, do you feel so beneath me that you have to take self confidence as a superiority complex? At least my friends, who also have self-respect, don't see me as some monster with a foul-smelling manipulative moon. Besides, being a good manipulator can be a good thing. Think about suicide counselors, hostage negotiaters, psychotherapists, etc etc. Y'all seem to assume that I'm phishing for social security numbers so I can flash more bling bling around town. Why should I give a shit about some faceless feces-flinging coward like yourself? The internet is full of useless people who flock to a dying carcass whenever the opportunity arises. I'm glad I'm not you... Mon, 25 May 2009 23:23:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8a457446-9372-4c93-8564-b97eeed020f0 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T23:23:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#79bf6de7-d4f2-46d9-b05d-4932f43ac0e9 Yeah it somehow seems like the most disliked of the signs to me: the most austere, the least fun, nose-to-the-grindstone and throw in a bit of cold-heartedness... in much of the stuff I've read about it. I'm not really a big workaholic--- at all. I should be at work.. right now. Anyways. Again and again on the boards when Capricorn as a sign is being discussed there's this sentiment that they aren't being rightly represented, or that there is a big misunderstanding... that they are very sensitive and that there is some deep mystery connected with the sign. This is possibly the influence of all the other planets and houses and aspects and signs which soften the influence of Capricorn. I don't know enough about the subject. It seems that the connection with Saturn (SAtan!??! the judge--) coupled with a propensity to do whatever they want as long as they don't think anyone will find out- and then the ensuing guilt when people DO find out they've done something wrong-- makes Capricorns an easy/desirable target for derision and scorn, and probably rightly so, but also subject to deep melancholy, regret, and perhaps self-denial and the derision of the self. But I don't know enough what I'm talking about. Really. I would like to be corrected on those points, or for that thought of mine to be unfolded a bit, because I don't even know where it comes from. Someone was saying something about guilt up there which was interesting. I have to read this thread more closely. I'll post some more informed rambling in a bit? Mon, 25 May 2009 23:21:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#79bf6de7-d4f2-46d9-b05d-4932f43ac0e9 inimi 2009-05-25T23:21:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6a5d3cb3-1a9d-40b1-8f81-81166cc756ba kara, all the capricorn moons i know, also love to shock and cause scenes too... they're usually some of the most incredibly 'out to lunch' people i know.... I have had 6 really close friendships with moon in cap... interactions are so estatic and adventurous ..and usually bordering on the edge of sanity almost.. I dont know why its like this... maybe theres a lot to capricorn than people understand, maybe we've been misinterpreting the sign and holding it to really strange expectations ...they usually get a lot of the negative stereotyping..maybe that has a lot to do with our failed interpretation... or maybe its just part of capricorn politely taking control? I think all signs have negative traits, sometimes i wonder if we focus too much on being positive... I think thats a negative tendency of my signs (pisces sun/libra moon) It has its place..... all signs do.. maybe we cant wrap our heads around capricorns place, maybe its incredibly difficult being a capricorn! Mon, 25 May 2009 23:07:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6a5d3cb3-1a9d-40b1-8f81-81166cc756ba $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T23:07:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#77e3c068-438f-4fcf-a2b1-d9d71edcfe24 but I'm ok, right amiablehermit? **batting eyelashes** love all-ways, mem Mon, 25 May 2009 23:02:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#77e3c068-438f-4fcf-a2b1-d9d71edcfe24 MaryEllen 2009-05-25T23:02:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5515cd0c-8b66-4fac-9548-af5d319c8c2f I´ve seen the things I rant about in several goats, both on tv & in my personal life, many work that way. Virgo has no problems with zodiac bosses, but the Cap-style of leadership is often just a silent dictatorship. Caps characters are rarely inspiring & the thought of themselves walloving in secret self-praise is just too much! Mon, 25 May 2009 23:02:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5515cd0c-8b66-4fac-9548-af5d319c8c2f Joakim 2009-05-25T23:02:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3c4132e1-3ebf-493f-abf7-d5826d6a3fd4 Um. Paul ~ my problem has been with Scorp Moons, not Cap Moons, but, yeah. same thing. Mon, 25 May 2009 22:59:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3c4132e1-3ebf-493f-abf7-d5826d6a3fd4 amiablehermit 2009-05-25T22:59:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#589adafa-ade9-41b7-92aa-9830f31f8c57 yes I kind of agree but what is the distinction? We are the best ;-) We want to have the emotions in mastery....I guess... Mon, 25 May 2009 22:59:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#589adafa-ade9-41b7-92aa-9830f31f8c57 bertil 2009-05-25T22:59:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6f83d802-7cc2-488c-a190-0107c880eadd I'm going to say some stuff, having read or skimmed most of this thread, about how I have a Capricorn Moon, and also how I end up making friends with a lot of Scorpio moons... in fact, most of my closest friends have got 'em... and my new love interest... and my old love interest... my crossing-over love interests... (I would like to discuss lack of morality and flying int he face of tradition witout hurting anybody, or with trying not to)---- and how I have a Scorpio Sun and Ascendant along with a Capricorn Moon. And more stuff about me probably. And maybe some stuff about Internet flaming and funny astrology geeks like you guys if I get around to it or think of anything helpful. Some people describe me as really really nice and wouldn't-hurt-a-fly, and others recognize a definite dominant (usually I hear "intimidating") force in me. I usually don't know how to handle the effect I have on groups of people and so badly mismanage it, but this has to do with sun in the first house and then a whole lot of other things, and actually honestly I don't have it too bad and hopefully I'll be able to do some reallll good around the world some day. I have a lot of really nice aspects in my chart, according to a few sites, and I have just read that I usually look at others as manifestations of god, or spirit-- intelligent magical beings whom I respect and love-- and so I tend not to fuck around too often- not on purpose- not malevolently, not on purpose!!! Nihilism and spirituality walk a dotted line hand in hand and it's love that keeps them both having hands and not mangled bits of jelly polka-dotted. I'm not a Nihilist I don't know what the fuck that meant either. It's funny how Nihilism and 1930's German kitsch go hand-in-hand for me. POlka-dots...... I happen to be unnaturally good-looking, to dress sort of strangely, to dance pretty extravagantly in public. I sound like a doink saying this stuff but it seems relevant somehow. Sometimes I am really awkward socially but I can't help doing what seems a hell of a lot like showing off when I feel like I should be passionately living, and feeling, and dancing and moving and appreciating. The bridge between this experience of ecstasy on my part and the experience of the wall-flowers uncomfortably watching is one I am hoping to be able to build... again and again... Anyways. I don't know if this is of interest to anyone! Another thing which came to mind when the disgusting Capricorn stench was being discussed was a certain dad of mine who is a Capricorn and is pretty slimy but also pretty lovely. It's funny. Forgiveness and understanding come through so many avenues, and peace, and strength. I think it's funny how Cancers repeat the same thing over and over in an argument. And a little pathetic (in the benevolently sympathetic sense of the word). My Cancer (boy)friend(ish-who-knows) will call me an idiot ten times for each one time I say it. Or whatever else. It's sad and cute and maddening all at once. It seems like this fight going on on this thread right now is a big joke in a way, the way it's being executed... I didn't read it too closely... but really, I mean look at it. It doesn't matter what your aspects are or where your planets are transiting one another's--- it's just a big soup of the darkest storms on those planets cavorting over a lifeless barren plane, that of the internet. It's a waste of time! Or maybe not. How should I know? We give it life. This is life here, crawling, letters like bugs. Mon, 25 May 2009 22:58:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6f83d802-7cc2-488c-a190-0107c880eadd inimi 2009-05-25T22:58:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f4f581d5-a4e9-4d4f-bbab-16b06f33a375 CAUTION: POWER-LUSTING BILLY-GOAT WITHOUT EITHER SHAME OR CONSCIENCE IF SLOWLY APPROACHING WITH MOIST EYES & LEERING GRIN LOOK FOR EXITS CANNOT BE REASONED OR BARGAINED WITH & LACKS HOBBIES OTHER THAN THE DERANGED INTEREST MENTIONED ABOVE! Mon, 25 May 2009 22:52:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f4f581d5-a4e9-4d4f-bbab-16b06f33a375 Joakim 2009-05-25T22:52:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#91ac3c6e-9ac7-4a81-8451-f739e0114ae9 "Some Caps get sour like lemons when the world-domination daydreams in their heads doesn´t exist IRL," Yes, I've also seen this kind of thing with people whose prejudice only exist in their heads and not IRL. It can be infuriating I'd imagine. Mon, 25 May 2009 22:43:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#91ac3c6e-9ac7-4a81-8451-f739e0114ae9 Paul 2009-05-25T22:43:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#72b68f87-bbd2-42bf-a30b-8d4197cd8141 "hose smug Cap-faces really are hideous, oh the satisfaction they get from behaving like the superior masters(!)" Actually quite a number of models have a strong Capricorn. For example Kate Moss, Helena Christenson, Gabriella Reece etc etc Why do you hate Capricorn so much? "oh the satisfaction they get from behaving like the superior masters(!) some of the dullards imagine themselves to be!" Why does this bother you? Mon, 25 May 2009 22:42:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#72b68f87-bbd2-42bf-a30b-8d4197cd8141 Paul 2009-05-25T22:42:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b0f146fd-e8b7-47d6-9a93-667e17f4b3f3 "On the other hand though, a look at her chart would be infinitly more enlightening as to why she has such an antipathy towards moon in Cap or people contradicting her in general"" Laux Feel free to infinitely enlighten us then. There is of course the possibility that these issues you perceive are your own. It might be interesting to post your own chart before you begin to examine others. It might help highlight the mentality behind the observations that you seem to be finding. So where in the chart is Amiable's antipathy toward Moon in Capricorn people? For the purposes of scope and unbias, it would be good to find the aspect/sign/placement etc. then find three external sites/books/blogs etc. which details the particularities that relate to an overall hatred of that particular 1/12th of the world. Mon, 25 May 2009 22:35:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b0f146fd-e8b7-47d6-9a93-667e17f4b3f3 Paul 2009-05-25T22:35:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#51612488-7441-44c2-9a01-9b26b4a6b0be "The goat craves POWER, he loves to DOMINATE & if that stifles the poor victims he uses as expendable material that just adds smug pleasure to his quiet megalomania, beware...." Beware of who? 1/12th of the population who are open minded and have free will? Or the person who has too much tar and only one brush? Mon, 25 May 2009 22:31:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#51612488-7441-44c2-9a01-9b26b4a6b0be Paul 2009-05-25T22:31:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ccbf2847-a839-4b6e-a360-ad885243fa38 "People who like Amiable's foul illogical rant can't be taken too seriously. " Laux This might even be true, the only problem of course, is that Amiable's posts, although verging on foul and stretching to ranting are certainly anything but illogical. Amiable is actually quite logical. Perhaps her Aquarian Moon? Or her Virgo Rising? Or her Mercury in the 1st House? Or her Gemini MC? Probably one of those. Mon, 25 May 2009 22:28:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ccbf2847-a839-4b6e-a360-ad885243fa38 Paul 2009-05-25T22:28:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3b857e9c-99af-4c20-8a7b-62e7092e0639 Some Caps get sour like lemons when the world-domination daydreams in their heads doesn´t exist IRL, their plan was so sweet & so simple: just dress & behave like a boss, that should do the trick! But the buggers forgot that respect is earned & no one really wants some power-crazed half-psycho telling them what to do when they work. Famous Cap tyrants in history often didn´t care about money or luxuries, when they expired their "paychecks" were found unopened. The goat craves POWER, he loves to DOMINATE & if that stifles the poor victims he uses as expendable material that just adds smug pleasure to his quiet megalomania, beware.... Mon, 25 May 2009 21:48:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3b857e9c-99af-4c20-8a7b-62e7092e0639 Joakim 2009-05-25T21:48:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8569291c-acab-42f7-bb3d-169af00ebd47 Yeah, like he could know anything about you since you are such a fucking coward that you can't even post your own fucking chart. Mon, 25 May 2009 20:50:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8569291c-acab-42f7-bb3d-169af00ebd47 amiablehermit 2009-05-25T20:50:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#baa09026-3609-4bb0-a356-0ba2a27bb92c In the first place, I don't even think you have an accurate idea of what passive aggression is, since Brendan is anything but. And I certainly think that he didn't attack Cancers, rather much the other way around, when it comes to foul attacks ~ gf, you started this after all. He claims no saintly anything ~ that is your own sarcasm. And Why TF do you think CANCERS need defending in the first place? ~ See, this is what I am talking about when it comes to an unimaginative, stereotypical mentality. There was nothing, as I know any actual rational person here knows, illogical about what I said in defense of Brendan, and it was hardly a rant. If you want a rant, I can provide one for you later to illustrate that, but at the moment, it seems like too much effort for something and someone totally not worth the energy. < Besides, unlike you, I am about to go get laid repeatedly.> Sorry, this a tribe friend here at the mothnest commenting on his own, which he felt somehow obliged to do reading over my shoulder. But, YAWN to you. If you want a crack at my chart, GO FOR IT! It should be interesting to get a little snarky asshole perspective to blow away. And show me in my chart where my antipathy for Scorpio Moons resides ~ Now THAT would be brilliant! <I haven't disagreed with anyone (I might have ignored some posts.) I don't have antipathy towards any moon sign.> ??? Unless I can no longer interpret the English language and everyone here is a rube, you just exposed yourself as a complete and utter liar. Must suck being you. <Now let me get mine in peace, you jackass.> My friend introducing further editorializations here. He's a little impatient and he says you are full of shit. Anyway, the level to which you like to sink and try to drag others with you is so juenile and boring to me that it chagrins me that I am even responding to you. I usually reserve myself for arguments of some wit and intelligence, unless I of course I see the pack circling around a friend for a gang up attack. Then mud doesn't bother me. Mud is obviously the watery area you are accustomed to. So if you wont rise out of that, yeah, I'll slog it out with you there. Mon, 25 May 2009 20:42:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#baa09026-3609-4bb0-a356-0ba2a27bb92c amiablehermit 2009-05-25T20:42:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e2417575-70af-4a4a-bc94-2ae4dffc162d LOL! Excuse me? To whom are you speaking? Certainly it can't be to me. You are too lightweight to even take semi-seriously. Mon, 25 May 2009 20:15:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e2417575-70af-4a4a-bc94-2ae4dffc162d amiablehermit 2009-05-25T20:15:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c2ed8124-8bc3-4620-aa3c-d7eca772126a Dion "Frankly, I don't really care where HER moon is or what aspects it makes On the other hand though, a look at her chart would be infinitly more enlightening as to why she has such an antipathy towards moon in Cap or people contradicting her in general" Just admit it, you want to know where my moon is. You even said "Frankly". Mon, 25 May 2009 20:03:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c2ed8124-8bc3-4620-aa3c-d7eca772126a Laux 2009-05-25T20:03:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52e1dfce-ec02-4c99-93b2-563cd1255182 Amiablehermit “I think that Brendan is expressing a general exasperation” Why were Brendan's passive aggressive manipulation and foul attacks on us cancers excused as “a general exasperation”? Excuse me for not seeing his saintly glow, which you obviously see clearly. His passive-aggressive apology was accepted, and I saw no more need to defend us cancer folks, but your foul illogical rant demonstrated you are inferior to anyone else on this thread. Dion People who like Amiable's foul illogical rant can't be taken too seriously. For you and Amiablehermit's information, I have been listening to everyone's opinion on this thread, and I expressed my agreements. I haven't disagreed with anyone (I might have ignored some posts.) I don't have antipathy towards any moon sign. BTW, has Amiable's chart been "infinitely enlightening" to you as she has an antipathy towards scorp moon folks? Mon, 25 May 2009 19:47:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#52e1dfce-ec02-4c99-93b2-563cd1255182 Laux 2009-05-25T19:47:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#371002fc-0e5a-4453-bc35-9bc5a5e365d7 >>It doesnt' puzzle me in the least. I think that Brendan is expressing a general exasperation that quite a few of us feel with shallow, unimaginative, hyper-generalizing types who post threads here mostly just to insult and rile folks and to pick fights. Go to a Cap Moon tribe if you want to troll those with this aspect. If you are not goiing to listen to people who contradict your pet biases, that's where you belong. Even with my own antipathy toward Scorpio Moons, I am perfectly willing to be open to someone if a person with that aspect describes how the negative traits are not part of their core being, or how they overcome those negative traits, or how other aspects in the chart keep such things at bay, or any number of other things that can go into a person NOT being stereotypical, or even typical, of a generalized assessment. This is especially true when they clearly exhibit behavior and attitudes contradictory to a cookie-cutter appraisal. Frankly, this thread has done more to show me the positive aspects of the Capricorn Moon from people who actually have this aspect, whereas the lame brains who started off and continue bashing them have done a great deal to earn my disrespect for them as people, regardless of their Sun, Moon, or any other sign their planets may possess. As for being human, these inflammatory types might do well to act a bit more like humans, and adult ones at that, themselves. Maybe the lot of you are just on the rag.<< Well said... yet another emotionally repressed razor-mouthed know-it-all exposed. Frankly, I don't really care where HER moon is or what aspects it makes - regardless, she should go back to astrological kindergarten. On the other hand though, a look at her chart would be infinitly more enlightening as to why she has such an antipathy towards moon in Cap or people contradicting her in general, than lingering in this endless rethoric: an obvious excersize in stupidity and much to the detriment of this tribe. Mon, 25 May 2009 19:11:24 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#371002fc-0e5a-4453-bc35-9bc5a5e365d7 Dion 2009-05-25T19:11:24Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1a1ea88c-f00c-4e8a-a886-55984d9d8b79 No one is asking you to stay if it's too terrible for you here. Mon, 25 May 2009 18:39:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1a1ea88c-f00c-4e8a-a886-55984d9d8b79 Unsubconscious 2009-05-25T18:39:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5c2cb883-f9a2-463d-aaf4-c3642468d66c It doesnt' puzzle me in the least. I think that Brendan is expressing a general exasperation that quite a few of us feel with shallow, unimaginative, hyper-generalizing types who post threads here mostly just to insult and rile folks and to pick fights. Go to a Cap Moon tribe if you want to troll those with this aspect. If you are not goiing to listen to people who contradict your pet biases, that's where you belong. Even with my own antipathy toward Scorpio Moons, I am perfectly willing to be open to someone if a person with that aspect describes how the negative traits are not part of their core being, or how they overcome those negative traits, or how other aspects in the chart keep such things at bay, or any number of other things that can go into a person NOT being stereotypical, or even typical, of a generalized assessment. This is especially true when they clearly exhibit behavior and attitudes contradictory to a cookie-cutter appraisal. Frankly, this thread has done more to show me the positive aspects of the Capricorn Moon from people who actually have this aspect, whereas the lame brains who started off and continue bashing them have done a great deal to earn my disrespect for them as people, regardless of their Sun, Moon, or any other sign their planets may possess. As for being human, these inflammatory types might do well to act a bit more like humans, and adult ones at that, themselves. Maybe the lot of you are just on the rag. Mon, 25 May 2009 18:03:19 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5c2cb883-f9a2-463d-aaf4-c3642468d66c amiablehermit 2009-05-25T18:03:19Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#72fc4e2e-676f-464d-942a-8f636d3fc812 Never heard of Cappy moon cutting themselves. Mon, 25 May 2009 16:12:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#72fc4e2e-676f-464d-942a-8f636d3fc812 Lady Saber 2009-05-25T16:12:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#95aa83c9-16cf-4f40-8edd-8746b95442e2 Brendan, your irritation really puzzles me. Is it typical for a cap moon? Do you people feel so high above everyone that no one is allowed to say anything nasty about your moon? If they would do the same to any of my planets, I guess I would either nodd or correct - if it was total nonsense. What's so terrible about being a manipulative, calculating miser? At least it makes you more interesting than holy saints. It makes you sort of human, doesn't it? Or is it perhaps a bit utterly scary to be sort of human? Mon, 25 May 2009 15:17:10 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#95aa83c9-16cf-4f40-8edd-8746b95442e2 Unsubconscious 2009-05-25T15:17:10Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e69402ba-f168-42e7-a45e-76785cc7e482 Yes, thank you. Every once in a while it's good to wake up and smell my own foul manipulative odor. I regret not seeing the depth the your genius until now. All of your observations are 100% accurate. I'm going to pour myself a passive aggressive cup of coffee, read some self help books, and cut myself. Do you know any good life coaches that can brain-zap me back into an acceptable frame of mind? I'm going to need all the help I can get! Mon, 25 May 2009 14:37:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e69402ba-f168-42e7-a45e-76785cc7e482 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T14:37:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d072b475-a353-400c-b7ae-2064b89faf52 "Apologies for going overboard but you've irritated the hell out of me." Your passive aggressive apology accepted. I've irritated the hell out of you because I made you smell your own foul manipulative odor. Mon, 25 May 2009 08:34:29 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d072b475-a353-400c-b7ae-2064b89faf52 Laux 2009-05-25T08:34:29Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3d5a89f4-32b2-4e3b-b413-8362531211c3 That's good enough for me. It is interesting that you seem so sour on Cap moons in general though, being a Cancer and all. I know a crazy Cancer whom you suddenly reminded me of, but not every Cancer is a Crazy Cancer. Apologies for going overboard but you've irritated the hell out of me. Congratulations. I'm laying down my guns. At the end of the day, I don't care what you think. Mon, 25 May 2009 07:24:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3d5a89f4-32b2-4e3b-b413-8362531211c3 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T07:24:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4c6eafbd-8417-4fa3-9e6f-34712bf4939d Brendan, "You've just imagined it, and you obviously only hear what you want to hear, Ms. Laux. One thing of note is that it is common for undeveloped people to badmouth the sign opposite their own sun sign. In this case I seem to remember saying you had a Cancer Sun, which explains much about your poo poo attitude about Cap moons. Isn't it a pity that not everyone meets your particular standards of perfection, Ms. Laux? Life isn't all you thought it would be, is it? Do you need a shoulder to cry on? Do you need help coping with the gravity of the situation? " undeveloped people? poo poo attitudee? shoulder to cry on? Bad mouthing us cancers? I started a thread here. You can agree or disagree. Or, you can keep YOUR old sickening manipulative way. (note that I said "your" instead of cap moons' because the entire cap moon clan doesn't deserve to be fouled by your individual manipulative smell.) Alternate between passive and aggressive, good job, Brendan. Did you say something about you being shy? Mon, 25 May 2009 06:34:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4c6eafbd-8417-4fa3-9e6f-34712bf4939d Laux 2009-05-25T06:34:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7c3692b7-3c58-421e-8d8b-54470a9338d1 I think the manipulation is more Scorpio. Capricorn pulls away from emotions and does things according to set objectives; the more that these objectives are outside of themselves, the better they are at it. Capricorn moons are crap at emotions, in comparison to Cancer moons, their exact opposites. Capricorn moons do not always know how to express emotion or how to deal with it. Like I said, the whole superiority and glamour thing is not quite Capricorn. They are bad at taking compliments always trying to downplay themselves. Mon, 25 May 2009 05:32:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7c3692b7-3c58-421e-8d8b-54470a9338d1 Lady Saber 2009-05-25T05:32:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#53811656-f3bf-4749-bb6a-a0698faa1d9f Ah-ah! I got a Scorpio stellium sextiling my moon in Capricorn. Mon, 25 May 2009 05:24:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#53811656-f3bf-4749-bb6a-a0698faa1d9f Lady Saber 2009-05-25T05:24:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#889d0e71-3b14-44b3-a69f-212aedc1a1ea "Queer" used to mean strange, and that's what I meant in borrowing the expression. But yes, I was making the decision for other people's lives by making them "queer" in whatever sense of the term you wish. I didn't try to manipulate you, but with your word-twisting crazy-cancer thing you seem to be doing a good job of trying to manipulate me, lol. You know what, you win, you're right, good job. I wouldn't want to bully around with your super scary scorpio stellium. You sound just like a poorly dubbed kung fu movie... Yeah, I'm on your side now, lol... Mon, 25 May 2009 04:57:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#889d0e71-3b14-44b3-a69f-212aedc1a1ea $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T04:57:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#833a206a-5a2c-417d-a253-0f831d225577 Cappy moons don't show hitting themselves over the head publicly. Showing that publicly is just pushing your will upon others in hope of manipulating others. We are also practical people, we know if a mistake has been made, it has been made. If it can be salvaged, you can trust that Cappy moons will salvage it. Otherwise, we take the lesson learnt from it, move on, and apply it differently in order to avoid making the same mistake again. Superiority, glamour is a side effect for some Cappy moons who do a job well. For me, it's about getting the job done in the best possible way, regardless of my ego or others. There are clear and set objectives. That said, Cappy moons don't take well to compliments either. Perhaps a Leo or Aries moon are better at being in the limelight than us. Mon, 25 May 2009 04:49:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#833a206a-5a2c-417d-a253-0f831d225577 Lady Saber 2009-05-25T04:49:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6dc9c054-c0fb-4d58-ac68-62cf0d727815 You've just imagined it, and you obviously only hear what you want to hear, Ms. Laux. One thing of note is that it is common for undeveloped people to badmouth the sign opposite their own sun sign. In this case I seem to remember saying you had a Cancer Sun, which explains much about your poo poo attitude about Cap moons. Isn't it a pity that not everyone meets your particular standards of perfection, Ms. Laux? Life isn't all you thought it would be, is it? Do you need a shoulder to cry on? Do you need help coping with the gravity of the situation? All this scorpio and capricorn bashing got me thinking. Capricorn's Tarot card is the Devil, and Scorpio's card is Death. No wonder these archtypes make the larval-headed townspeople of eld run for their pitchforks and torches. If everything that's been posted in this thread is true, I would've already tried invading Poland by now. Mon, 25 May 2009 04:48:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6dc9c054-c0fb-4d58-ac68-62cf0d727815 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-25T04:48:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#25ab43ec-b165-4ec5-9bc2-dca3b6f1d834 Laux ~ Perhaps Brendan is finding your scorp stellium provacative and is responding in kind. Mon, 25 May 2009 04:43:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#25ab43ec-b165-4ec5-9bc2-dca3b6f1d834 amiablehermit 2009-05-25T04:43:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#545816df-2c3f-45b2-b6b9-feb10ff86fff <Capricorn is an earth sign and a fixed on that is....> Capricorn is the cardinal earth sign. Taurus is the fixed earth sign. But I don't think that takes away from your point. Mon, 25 May 2009 04:38:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#545816df-2c3f-45b2-b6b9-feb10ff86fff amiablehermit 2009-05-25T04:38:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5249c142-9ba8-4bb0-93da-f61eebcc067e Brendan, I never associate the word "queer" with cap moon. I don't dislike cap moons. There are many people sharing experiences here; I am not sure you pick on me because I started the thread or because my cancer placement makes you think I am sensitive enough to be bullied to stop saying my opinions. "we're queer, and you might as well get used to it. On the bright side, there are many other people out there that can be your friend." No one said you are queer. Are you trying to make decision for other people's life? "I doubt many Cap moon folks would be too upset if you stopped returning their calls." This is manipulation. Do you actually think your cap moon can bully my scorp stellium? Mon, 25 May 2009 04:33:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5249c142-9ba8-4bb0-93da-f61eebcc067e Laux 2009-05-25T04:33:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e523f3e1-eaad-465f-9ddc-0adbf3819a30 "I don't think that's an example of will-pushing. The onus is on the Capricorn moon to undertake responsibility, as to whether it is imposed on the teammate is a different story." Ladysaber, how would you feel if you made a mistake in team work and all other teammates hit themselves over the head and wonder what they could have done to prevent the mistake? They are very forgiving, but they want to win. It is not just cap moon's responsibility but everone in the team. Have I just imagined it? or your words really showed you feel superior to your teammates? Mon, 25 May 2009 04:04:15 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e523f3e1-eaad-465f-9ddc-0adbf3819a30 Laux 2009-05-25T04:04:15Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c803eee2-e777-4760-b87e-528a41de04ff I think that happens when you are both the same moon regardless of sign. Your biorhythms and emotional patterns and even your need for sustenance tend to mirror each other. The ebb and flow of who takes charge happens the same way too. But for Capricorn moons, I think of all the moon signs, we KNOW intuitively when to leave the other one alone, if he or she has been having a hard day and needs to recharge. Silence to us is not rudeness, is just a need to recoup and recharge. Mon, 25 May 2009 02:28:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c803eee2-e777-4760-b87e-528a41de04ff Lady Saber 2009-05-25T02:28:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#19e94b73-b4b2-457c-8f67-9022529698cf Ambition is not ruthless when everyone is genuinely supporting you of that same cause, or at the very least is able to benefit in some way from it. Otherwise it's just the iron fist at work. Iron fists do not work well in this day and age when people are knowledgeable empowered and intelligent. Cappy moons who use manipulation and "I am boss attitude so listen to me otherwise I throw you into the dungeon" outwardly are risking mutiny. Cappy moons don't like this as it is disruptive. Mon, 25 May 2009 02:03:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#19e94b73-b4b2-457c-8f67-9022529698cf Lady Saber 2009-05-25T02:03:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7f62bfd4-1b7c-4a79-9f60-a4ec91702d89 I think ambition is an Arian energy. Cappy moons tend to stick to status quo and build on already solid foundations. Aries rules ambition and aspiration. Cappy rules the means in which to achieve it. Mon, 25 May 2009 01:53:02 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7f62bfd4-1b7c-4a79-9f60-a4ec91702d89 Lady Saber 2009-05-25T01:53:02Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#03c4f891-c927-43ae-846f-98b580f5d4f2 I don't think that's an example of will-pushing. The onus is on the Capricorn moon to undertake responsibility, as to whether it is imposed on the teammate is a different story. Imposing = will-pushing. Undertaking the responsibility in this case is not will-pushing. I know several Capricorn moons who are more forgiving of others than they are of themselves. I am not sure on what premise you make the deduction that the 'floundering teammate hit themselves over the head harder than the cap moon'. And Mantis, about 'there's nothing that says they wont manipulate/ bend rules when they are on the top', I don't know how you make that deduction either. I don't think there's anything that guarantees that they will manipulate or bend the rules when they are on top. Capricorn is an earth sign and a fixed on that is, and I think they tend to work within pragmatic parameters than manipulate which is probably the energy of Pluto/ Scorpio. Mon, 25 May 2009 01:50:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#03c4f891-c927-43ae-846f-98b580f5d4f2 Lady Saber 2009-05-25T01:50:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0ea9b0f6-f073-47e7-a0e4-0ada2f70bf05 Perhaps that´s why so many of them think they can pester others, walk into their livingrooms like they owned the place & put their smelly hooves on the sofa? Those smug Cap-faces really are hideous, oh the satisfaction they get from behaving like the superior masters(!) some of the dullards imagine themselves to be! Just don´t do it in my presence, it could result in other types of facial expressions then the smug one... Sun, 24 May 2009 22:13:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0ea9b0f6-f073-47e7-a0e4-0ada2f70bf05 Joakim 2009-05-24T22:13:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#90af897f-cd2a-4787-90ed-7e3b2153c104 Swedish meatballs, anyone? Um. And these are not the ones I dropped and stepped on. Sun, 24 May 2009 21:33:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#90af897f-cd2a-4787-90ed-7e3b2153c104 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T21:33:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#38ff7676-14db-4bfd-b710-767a13e46316 "Watch, I'll make Bill Clinton go streaking on Tuesday just to prove my point. " I thought you were buying out all the major banks on Tuesday? Better make it Wednesday instead, you have a gap in your schedule, right between Funding Mind Control Project and Shutting Down Unprofitable Orphanage. "Ah, levity... it salves the Caprciorn heart. Thanks, Paul, I needed that. " Just keeping things in scope! Sun, 24 May 2009 21:28:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#38ff7676-14db-4bfd-b710-767a13e46316 Paul 2009-05-24T21:28:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c83d1357-029d-424f-9a35-2723431b8933 Please spare us, mighty Cap. We got enough of that just hearing about what he was doing in the Oval Office during his administration. I still have to live down the fact that he and I share the same birthday. Sun, 24 May 2009 21:12:42 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c83d1357-029d-424f-9a35-2723431b8933 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T21:12:42Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f01a9cf9-6989-4339-9db6-87a707193b82 "You probably rejected the Bilderberger group and Skull & Bones because they weren't ambitious enough for you! Oh yes, we know your sort, bloody crapicorn moon!!!! " Ah, levity... it salves the Caprciorn heart. Thanks, Paul, I needed that. And yes, I did reject those groups for their lack of ambition. I bested them all like a one-man Ocean's 11 and secretly hold the world hostage in collective slavery. Watch, I'll make Bill Clinton go streaking on Tuesday just to prove my point. Sun, 24 May 2009 21:00:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f01a9cf9-6989-4339-9db6-87a707193b82 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T21:00:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ddba3e71-87a8-48dd-813a-29a1885d954c <SQUISH, SQUISH, CRUNCH> Ooops! Now i have to clean up the floor ~ Meatballs and grilled scorpion mess here. Sun, 24 May 2009 20:47:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ddba3e71-87a8-48dd-813a-29a1885d954c amiablehermit 2009-05-24T20:47:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3a3275f2-6e9a-411b-a372-28dfe11421c6 That is so cute! Sun, 24 May 2009 20:29:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#3a3275f2-6e9a-411b-a372-28dfe11421c6 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T20:29:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1f6a3654-beb1-4cbf-97f0-1c6d8163bb17 What strikes me about my own cap planets (no moon there though) is a innate feeling of superiority. I smell that same feeling of superiority in some of the cap moon owners posts here. Cap may be shy (I prefer to call it 'very much not at ease in social situations') and may choose to keep a low profile for the sake of not getting too much damned attention - here comes shy again - but all the time there is this feeling of superiority. Caps are not humble. I know quite a few cap men who explicitly need a beauty queen for a partner "because they deserve it" and hey, they cannot spend their lives looking at an ordinary ugly face! I'm sure there must be many hard working caps who truly deserve some respect and so on. However, I myself didn't do anything noteworthy and still have this overall sense of superiority. It has been there all my life, just because I was best of my class (sometimes, once) and received some praise. Anyway, I cannot seem to find the best words to describe this, but still wanted to mention it. Sun, 24 May 2009 19:57:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1f6a3654-beb1-4cbf-97f0-1c6d8163bb17 Unsubconscious 2009-05-24T19:57:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bc679f3c-fd92-435e-b7f8-23dc2afacb56 i still crave bannana baby food Sun, 24 May 2009 19:35:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bc679f3c-fd92-435e-b7f8-23dc2afacb56 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T19:35:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#100ef5d2-6379-4663-818d-9120ec12212d "I'm an anarchist for crying out loud! I'd rather drive a used Camry than a BMW. " But are you an anarchist intent upon world domination!!!???? Huh?!?? You can't hide it from us! We know your sort!!! You secretly drink baby's blood and sacrifice small goats and children to Pan and other evil gods so as to increase your material power! You probably rejected the Bilderberger group and Skull & Bones because they weren't ambitious enough for you! Oh yes, we know your sort, bloody crapicorn moon!!!! or not. Sun, 24 May 2009 19:26:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#100ef5d2-6379-4663-818d-9120ec12212d Paul 2009-05-24T19:26:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1a8ab619-e1ab-40db-a9d3-15bbf29e0fe2 "Some people in this thread seem to think that my Cap moon instantly entitles me to the passwords and secret handshakes for all the Masonic Lodges, makes me a guest at the annual meeting of the Bilderbergers, gives me honorary degrees from Yale with Skull & Bones membership, puts me in the Council on Foreign Relations, allows me to fly free on the CIAs own private airplanes, gives me a direct line to Barack Obama's personal Blackberry, etc etc." This was in response to one of Mantis' post. The part about how capricorn energy and ambition leads to the corporate domination of the world cut me really deep, (Ouchy, Mantis! That stung!). I'm an anarchist for crying out loud! I'd rather drive a used Camry than a BMW. Yet, I'm being herded into this generalization that my ambition could never manifest itself as Ghandi's civil disobedience and passive resistance for a noble but non-materialistic gain. No, my ambition can only be heartless, greed-driven, and bent on receiving praise, status, and recognition because my moon is in capricorn. A lot of things that are being suggested here aren't necessarily true, and many of them are the opposite of everything I am, mind-body-soul. Sun, 24 May 2009 19:16:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1a8ab619-e1ab-40db-a9d3-15bbf29e0fe2 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T19:16:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50d1aab6-b31a-4756-bf09-063ed473f0fb "Commanding, expecting, and dealing in respect is not necessarily correlated with ego gratification or demands for attention or glory or anything like that. I think respect is something basic to all human beings. Expecting respect is nothing like being overly demanding or self absorbed. Respect is necessary for function in most human interactions." Capt. Kirk, we have found intelligent life! *dance of joy!* I'm glad your here contributing to this discussion, riptide... Sun, 24 May 2009 19:01:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50d1aab6-b31a-4756-bf09-063ed473f0fb $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T19:01:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a2298890-7fe7-4dc1-8fef-0c9682491ae3 Laux: Maybe it's not your karmic destiny to dig the Cap moon energy in any of its myriad permutations. If there wasn't place in the world for people such as myself, the moon would skip Capricorn altogether. Unfortunately, we're here, we're queer, and you might as well get used to it. On the bright side, there are many other people out there that can be your friend. I can't help thinking that your narrow focus on the negative aspects of the Cap moon is throwing a lot of babies out with the proverbial bathwater, but it's your loss. I doubt many Cap moon folks would be too upset if you stopped returning their calls. Just please don't continue using us as a reference. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:56:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a2298890-7fe7-4dc1-8fef-0c9682491ae3 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:56:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#30021257-3324-47ef-a468-36e5bb8e1abd oh ....oops.. it should be CANT blame them for being what you want them to be... Sun, 24 May 2009 18:51:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#30021257-3324-47ef-a468-36e5bb8e1abd $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:51:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1b18b190-a955-4538-9835-6f555cc6136f >>> Some people in this thread seem to think that my Cap moon instantly entitles me to the passwords and secret handshakes for all the Masonic Lodges, makes me a guest at the annual meeting of the Bilderbergers, gives me honorary degrees from Yale with Skull & Bones membership, puts me in the Council on Foreign Relations, allows me to fly free on the CIAs own private airplanes, gives me a direct line to Barack Obama's personal Blackberry, etc etc. >>> I love the dry humor hehe! One other thing I should clarify. I said something about "due respect". I didn't mean glory and attention ... sometimes it can be glory and attention but it seems in my understanding to be more than that if it is that at all. It is more in my opinion to be something of an outward recognition of the ground rules and respect for the rules and recognition of agreed positions and systems ... recognition of order at times it can be ... but respect in general is not the same as ego inflation or pandering to a leader. It is just what it is ... respect. Commanding, expecting, and dealing in respect is not necessarily correlated with ego gratification or demands for attention or glory or anything like that. I think respect is something basic to all human beings. Expecting respect is nothing like being overly demanding or self absorbed. Respect is necessary for function in most human interactions. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:49:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1b18b190-a955-4538-9835-6f555cc6136f $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:49:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#447f9e94-d13b-460b-a36f-475cdca5aae1 makaranda, i think you're so right......and it seems like part of the confusion with capricorns is their modesty. They don't seem to be overly flowery or criptic, so I think they have a little less of an opportunity expressing themselves. I've always thought its easier to communicate if you can be creative and imaginative, language seems really difficult when it falls outside of pragmatism. I love that we strive to communicate more subtle ideas with language, but part of me feels like its taken too seriously sometimes. I see capricorn to be focused on what works and what they can actually accomplish. They aren't going to inspire you with their words, ideas or charm. They will SHOW you what they can do. .they're so good at making things understandable through their actions. capricorn along with aquarius have always been my favorite signs, and my longest friendships... Ive always thought that its because they don't really try to make you think they're something they're not... they're so honest and straightforward and sometimes really in touch with their flaws that you don't try to expect too much from them...they're usually focused on their own vision and passion anyways, you can blame them for not being what you want them to be, usually its inspiring to be around them... I am probably bias too though... I think these personalities just work better for me Sun, 24 May 2009 18:48:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#447f9e94-d13b-460b-a36f-475cdca5aae1 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:48:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1839adcf-a005-4527-a052-c35de1ebf674 "Some people in this thread seem to think that my Cap moon instantly entitles me to the passwords and secret handshakes for all the Masonic Lodges, makes me a guest at the annual meeting of the Bilderbergers, gives me honorary degrees from Yale with Skull & Bones membership, puts me in the Council on Foreign Relations, allows me to fly free on the CIAs own private airplanes, gives me a direct line to Barack Obama's personal Blackberry, etc etc." I don't think that of you. :) Sun, 24 May 2009 18:43:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1839adcf-a005-4527-a052-c35de1ebf674 Laux 2009-05-24T18:43:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#177cddfc-6032-4fd6-9c26-d40048993deb riptide: I appreciate your clarification. Your tact demonstrates what I love about Capricorn energy. My comment you were responding to wasn't directed at anything you had posted. I'm just trying to ward off some of these negative generalizations about Cap energy, (love the concept of 'Cap energy', btw; very functional semantics for astrological discussions...), which seems to be the same thing you're doing, lol... I'm no perfect friend with authority figures either, my cap moon notwithstanding, considering my Aquarius ascendant which is square uranus and a dozen other factors. Some people in this thread seem to think that my Cap moon instantly entitles me to the passwords and secret handshakes for all the Masonic Lodges, makes me a guest at the annual meeting of the Bilderbergers, gives me honorary degrees from Yale with Skull & Bones membership, puts me in the Council on Foreign Relations, allows me to fly free on the CIAs own private airplanes, gives me a direct line to Barack Obama's personal Blackberry, etc etc. I don't drink baby blood, I don't wipe me arse with $100 bills, I don't try and dominate everything and everyone, but it's probably all my fault that someone decided to put me in charge of all the other power-hungry imbeciles at my normal workaday job. It couldn't be that I take a lot of personal responsibility and have a good work ethic or anything, it's just my attitude of superiority that brings home the bacon. After all, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that my bosses can sleep well at night knowing I'm on the job. Too much espresso, apologies for the rant, lol... Sun, 24 May 2009 18:34:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#177cddfc-6032-4fd6-9c26-d40048993deb $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:34:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1d1eb3b7-e30b-40a8-9f00-971066c27c07 "this thread is pretty much a repeat of what people think of any personal planet in cap... and the logical side if someone thinks a cap moon is attached to some overambitious, cold & calculating mode" Makaranda, this is not what the thread is about. read my original post again. i do want people's opinions including cap moons' so I would know if I've misunderstood them. However, it happened that some people offered some insight that reminded me of my experience with cap moons. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:25:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1d1eb3b7-e30b-40a8-9f00-971066c27c07 Laux 2009-05-24T18:25:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd3040be-64a3-4c4c-bf63-a4409075544b "Ms. Laux, no offence, but your posts here demonstrate how you really are only interested in validating opinions that verify your own emotional bias towards cap moon natives. For someone who's suggesting that cap moons are serious and cold, you seem to have us beat." I am not sure if it was my "emotional bias" but I haven't had this "emotional bias" with other moons. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:15:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dd3040be-64a3-4c4c-bf63-a4409075544b Laux 2009-05-24T18:15:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ff93397a-f588-4306-9eca-5c3d0228d275 laux, i was speaking more generally. seriously, different thread same crap... this thread is pretty much a repeat of what people think of any personal planet in cap... and the logical side if someone thinks a cap moon is attached to some overambitious, cold & calculating mode then where does that leave the sun (ego) attached to this sign. i just wanted to offer a little support since i am a proficient cap. on another note...i find it unsettling to hear sign bashing, regardless of sign. i honestly cant say that any particular sign or planet placement sucks... there are some real asses out there, but most things in life are not black and white... most of the time it is nobodys fault, it is just this thing called incompatibility. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:15:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ff93397a-f588-4306-9eca-5c3d0228d275 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:15:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c58e8e6e-9702-4143-b2ac-c8302f975d93 "well, the best leaders are not necessarily ambitious, LadySaber. Think of Gandhi. Besides, even if they were, doesn't mean that leading by example excludes the desire to have things your own way, regardless of others' opinions. Leading by example could be a great strategy, fit for the patient, hard-working, risk-loathing sign of Capricorn, just like any other strategy of reaching a position of power, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't bend the rules once at the top." I completely agree with you mantis. I don't necessarily see the correlation between leadership ability and ambition, it presume that the only ambition is to lead people, but of course that is not necessarily true. It might be true for Lady Saber though, which might be interesting. I personally see the MC and 10th House as being what we 'aspire' to, in some ways our personal ambitions. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:10:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c58e8e6e-9702-4143-b2ac-c8302f975d93 Paul 2009-05-24T18:10:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7480323f-af31-46e2-a1fd-8d442f25d751 Nevertheless, my comment about your definition of ambition is not related to astrology as such. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:08:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7480323f-af31-46e2-a1fd-8d442f25d751 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T18:08:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#173b5f6f-b0d1-4688-8913-eb9184c93a34 "I disagree. The best leaders do not push their own will own others, they lead by example in order for a certain circumstance or consequence to fall into place." yes but I think it is important to divorce 'leadership ability' from 'ambition'. Ambition is the desire to further your own circumstances with a connotation of a certain degree of ruthlessness if left unchecked. It is simply the desire to achieve something currently beyond your ability to achieve. I do not think that forcing your upon others or leading by example necessarily figure into this. They MIGHT in some circumstances, but it is not a rule of amibtion to either be able to lead by example, or any other way, or to force your will upon others. A certain amount of ambition is necessary if we're to do anything in our lives, but too much can lead to ruthless selfishness. Sun, 24 May 2009 18:07:59 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#173b5f6f-b0d1-4688-8913-eb9184c93a34 Paul 2009-05-24T18:07:59Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f2b18150-2a20-4637-a4dc-8859eb662eaf riptide, my post was in reaction to nothing that you posted. i have never had a problem with any of your postings on here or on other tribes. i always enjoy reading your posts regardless of whether i share your point of view. or not... you have a very whimsical, flowy, gentle kind of communication :-) the idea of you sucking people on tribe into your negativity is just plain silly! Sun, 24 May 2009 18:01:03 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f2b18150-2a20-4637-a4dc-8859eb662eaf $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T18:01:03Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#86c00bdc-728d-4d25-8995-4067bd296ddc "When a team mate flounders at a presentation, Capricorn moons tend to hit themselves over the head with what they could have done to help better prepare their teammate with the task rather than point fingers." LadySaber, that's an example of will pushing. this is a pressure on the teammate, who probably already hit themselves over the head harder than cap moon. cap moons feel superior and this sense of superiority sometimes overshadows the empathy in them if there is any. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:56:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#86c00bdc-728d-4d25-8995-4067bd296ddc Laux 2009-05-24T17:56:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1043979e-384b-4f20-9b77-9aa8017c47c2 *Sigh* Capricorns are anything but arrogant, at least in my humble opinion. I think a lot of people are confusing an aire of superiority for their own insecurities. I have no need to control other people, nor do I want recognition. I just want to do my best. The Eastern interpretations of Capricorn seem to be a lot more accurate than popular Western interpretations, IMO. Capricorn suns are the most gentle and self-abasing people I've ever known. I like how they are responsible and level-headed, and Cap women are very sexy, (but expensive, lol). I had a Capricorn girlfriend that was the life of the party, very social, funny, outgoing, and then on the way home she'd ask me if she seemed stupid or awkward. Despite her outward confidence, she was very soft and insecure underneath, but she had a hard time making friends with other women because she was so intimidating. I think a similar dynamic is at play when people are threatened by my outward nature with a Cap moon. Underneath, I'm a fluffy bunny, just an ordinary vulnerable and imperfect human being seeking love and happiness like everyone else. I don't want to become some ultra-powerful corporate CEO who plunders everything willy nilly in a bloodthirsty b-line for world domination. Throughout my short existence, the only people who've thought I was arrogant or blindly ambitious were lazy, cowardly, irresponsible, insecure, or all the above. Not one of them could say it to my face. Hitler and Ivan the Terrible had Moon in Capricorn, so I'm not saying that such natives aren't capable of having their share of faults. All I'm saying is that a Moon in Capricorn can manifest in a lot of different ways depending on placements and aspects. This thread is making many negative generalizations. Ms. Laux, no offence, but your posts here demonstrate how you really are only interested in validating opinions that verify your own emotional bias towards cap moon natives. For someone who's suggesting that cap moons are serious and cold, you seem to have us beat. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:55:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1043979e-384b-4f20-9b77-9aa8017c47c2 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T17:55:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96d80a91-148b-48ad-aabf-e53c5221846b "i am a capricorn and i dont get what a lot of non-caps say about the sign. yes, i am ambitious but in an ward way. my ambitions lie in discovering myself." cap sun is not the same as cap moon Sun, 24 May 2009 17:47:17 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96d80a91-148b-48ad-aabf-e53c5221846b Laux 2009-05-24T17:47:17Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c7602784-8f8d-4544-ad37-a1776f61b4da cap sun is not the same as cap moon Sun, 24 May 2009 17:46:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c7602784-8f8d-4544-ad37-a1776f61b4da Laux 2009-05-24T17:46:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b6796848-437b-41a2-8713-cedf54a0bd24 The safest way with cap moon is to keep a distance. Only they can come to people, people can go to them only with their permission. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:44:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b6796848-437b-41a2-8713-cedf54a0bd24 Laux 2009-05-24T17:44:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0a98e953-022e-4981-8964-92859aa43608 >>> The whole "who is boss" issue happens when we are dealing with moons quite different from ours. Otherwise it's an ebb and flow of who takes charge and who follows, no coercion, nothing to prove, really. >>> It is good that you can negotiate your terms effectively about who is boss with each other. I would be a prime candidate for that "who is boss" issue wouldn't I - not to bring myself into it unnecessarily - this isn't a place to be vain and talk only from our own experiences, I realize ... although I am guilty of it at times. It can be hard to fully escape from one's own perspective and experience. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:40:28 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0a98e953-022e-4981-8964-92859aa43608 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T17:40:28Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d44b8d68-ff9e-4cbd-9d86-7dbbf3b5378f Well said Mantis. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:39:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d44b8d68-ff9e-4cbd-9d86-7dbbf3b5378f Laux 2009-05-24T17:39:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c1f348cf-bd83-47be-936a-65e90d896968 Please note my original thoughts on this: >>> Mastery may relate to others or it may just be self mastery or the mastery of some art or profession. Each capricorn entity is likely to define its own sphere of mastery probably highly related to the houses involved and aspects and things. Mastery is less about determining outcomes and toying with variables and more about knowing something inside and out and being in the right position to manage whatever sphere of mastery is in question. >>> As many have highlighted - sometimes the sphere of mastery is simply YOURSELF. Sometimes the position of mastery taken is in social guardedness. But this is only one way that these things can be configured - yes a valid and non-domineering way - but still - unless I am misunderstanding - in a masterful way and in a way that positions you in a place of mastery of self or social interaction or whatever it might be. Now - I did share with you later on some experiences I had with clashes with that authority in particular. But I was not trying to say that this authority clash happens all of the time or trying to drag anyone into my own personal problems. Hehe. See how my directness gets me in trouble alot? I crossed a line in my second post, I see ... makaranda >>> i am a capricorn and i dont get what a lot of non-caps say about the sign. yes, i am ambitious but in an ward way. my ambitions lie in discovering myself. nor do i think you will see one coming on creating post after post about what is wrong with their life, with no concern with the consequneces of their negativity, sucking people subconsciously into their unhappy shit with little relevance to "astrology."... to me that is pure ego, and lacking empathy. >>> Yes - an inward ambition is very much something I see as capricorn. I am sorry to have made you feel I was trying to suck you into something from sharing my experiences with clashing from time to time with capricorn energy because of my foolish directness. I wasn't meaning to make any of it your problem or anything! Just letting people know where I am coming from a bit. brendan: >>> We trade some pretty meaningless social exchanges for proactive responsibility. That's why we end up being the bosses, and others think we're cold and ruthless. >>> Well, I never said that I think you are cold and ruthless - I don't think. Also, keep in mind that I tried (at least I attempted it) to be making statements about "capricorn energy" - I am not really judging people. I have some capricorn energy myself that holds me together and keeps me quite guarded and in a position of mastery over myself and my home and whatever sphere I take responsibility for. When other people happen to enter into that sphere they get to deal with my authority - yes - but otherwise it isn't like I am trying to control everything I can or anything. And it isn't cold or calculating or cruel - but it is like a knowing things inside and out and upholding definite groundrules thing. The authority will show up when people enter the spheres of my perceived responsibility. But as I was trying to say, there is a difference between authority and mastery versus control and power. I really don't think it is about control and power as I have said before. alex: >>> but all of this bashing is just offending my senses, not as a Capricorn moon, but as a human being. Having a capricorn moon is without a doubt the safest sign that you're shy. The truth is, you don't really know what you're talking about at all. We don't want power in "that" sense. A Sagittarius for example have a whole different outlook on power than a Capricorn. We just don't want to get hurt. We're very similar to Cancer in that way. >>> I think this is definitely one way that I have seen capricorn energy show up. (Again I'm not talking about just capricorn people here or capricorn suns or moons or whatever). This guardedness seems to me to be just one possible way of mastering self and a particular sphere of life - the social sphere. >>> Atleast in my case, it's true that I seek the weaker cliques or atleast those of lesser status, but that has nothing to do with me wanting to control them. It's just that people who have lesser status are generally more modest, so they aren't as likely to backstab or ridicule you. I just feel that I can lower my guard a little more around them. >>> I wasn't meaning to ridicule you! I hope I didn't come off that way. Yes - it is true that I have had my clashes with authority (not that I try to do this). But I am not saying that these specific instances are my only basis for understanding capricorns and scorpios. HOWEVER - these experiences have taught me the difference between capricorn authority and mastery vs scorpionic control and power struggle. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:37:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c1f348cf-bd83-47be-936a-65e90d896968 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T17:37:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7ef806dd-0c96-4f23-805b-ef57478452fd well, the best leaders are not necessarily ambitious, LadySaber. Think of Gandhi. Besides, even if they were, doesn't mean that leading by example excludes the desire to have things your own way, regardless of others' opinions. Leading by example could be a great strategy, fit for the patient, hard-working, risk-loathing sign of Capricorn, just like any other strategy of reaching a position of power, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't bend the rules once at the top. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:36:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7ef806dd-0c96-4f23-805b-ef57478452fd MantisReligiosa 2009-05-24T17:36:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0757d4c4-506e-4f98-9ade-16f36441ec1b "Most Caps are no real bosses, they perhaps rule things in their head. Morons are often stubborn & never know when to quit & pack the bags. There is something vile with attemps to establish "quiet authority", to assume everyone will behave according to their wishes just because they...won´t quit! Words of advice to goats: don´t bother scorpians with your fatherly, overbearing ways. Don´t knock on that door." Joakim, I agree that some scorps might not be happy with cap moons' quiet authority. Cap moons usually estalish that authority with cold silence, which tells people that they've crossed over the line. But people usually don't know where the line is because it is in the head of cap moon's head. They make the rule and have little tolerance for rule breaking (they don't shout at you but you can feel it) Sun, 24 May 2009 17:34:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0757d4c4-506e-4f98-9ade-16f36441ec1b Laux 2009-05-24T17:34:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#aed15c2f-59a3-4944-aca1-dfc737f9d378 "It is also true, however, that I have no planets in Capricorn in my chart. LOL! " well, I have 3 of those..including the great Saturn himself, so I would know a little more about Cap vibes. Though, I'm not sure if the ambitions I have are driven by that little group, or by Pluto in Scorpio, all alone in my eastern hemisphere. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:30:26 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#aed15c2f-59a3-4944-aca1-dfc737f9d378 MantisReligiosa 2009-05-24T17:30:26Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4bf1f62a-1e13-4cf1-b27e-d3b6a5c40c92 I forgot to mention, of course, that I was discussing the general energy of the Cap influence. anyway, I thought you had a Libra Rising, makaranda. that would explain the need to keep it fair and even. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:27:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4bf1f62a-1e13-4cf1-b27e-d3b6a5c40c92 MantisReligiosa 2009-05-24T17:27:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#40fb54d5-9f33-4fad-812f-13242bddf979 "Having a capricorn moon is without a doubt the safest sign that you're shy. I know 5 people with Capricorn moon's including myself, and all of us are shy. You people don't have a clue how much we struggle with social situations, and most of the bad traits you mention are related to our social anxieties" First of all, my apology if anything I said has offended you. It wasn't my intention. I am a cancer. I agree that capricorn moons are shy and much of what they do are aimed to protect themselves, but the extent that they need respect make them inevitably the boss or manipulator of all situations. They approach people when they feel like (I said when they feel like because I am sure they know I am safe to be with) and they turn cold for god know what reason. Perhapse people's "wrong" choice of time to initiate talk with them offended them or perhapse someone accidentally knocked off his pen. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:22:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#40fb54d5-9f33-4fad-812f-13242bddf979 Laux 2009-05-24T17:22:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0aed331c-ebf2-41f8-a303-499a9dcb81f0 Lady Saber Thanks for sharing the experience. Tthe cap moon couples I've seen appear polite when they talk to each other, very respectable . Their lives are regular and stable. Thanks for sharing again. Sun, 24 May 2009 17:01:00 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0aed331c-ebf2-41f8-a303-499a9dcb81f0 Laux 2009-05-24T17:01:00Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50ef45c6-a735-4c1c-9a87-9576812d213e In my inner movie-fantasy big, bad papa Scorp have this final showdown with the deranged leo-twins called Leonidas & Leon; Papa just laugh his sepulchre-laughter at these two fumbling village-idiots that never did realize just whos pantry they raided: Papa: "-SO YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD MUNCH ON MAH MEATBALLS, HUH?" leo-twins: "-Were sorry Papa, we apologize..." Papa: "-YOUSE ARE TOO PATHETIC TO EVEN BOTHER WITH, GET OUT OF MY SIGHT!" Sun, 24 May 2009 16:56:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#50ef45c6-a735-4c1c-9a87-9576812d213e Joakim 2009-05-24T16:56:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#209c8344-2676-431a-87a8-0b7408cbeddc Yes, makaranda. And the inward ambitions, imo, are the hardest ones to accomplish. It is highly likely that the Cap is the one who mostly competes with himself. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:53:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#209c8344-2676-431a-87a8-0b7408cbeddc amiablehermit 2009-05-24T16:53:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa70ce69-1c5b-41d4-afce-b3841d9ddec6 riptide, what you said is interesting and lots of these ring true. To me persoanlly, it is harder to satisfy cap moon because they want perfection, and they constantly judge people in their mind. Scorp moons want absolute loyalty and proof of it. Cap moons give people more pressure in a subtle way. The safest way to get along with a cap moon is to keep a distance. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:51:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fa70ce69-1c5b-41d4-afce-b3841d9ddec6 Laux 2009-05-24T16:51:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1122a030-d01a-433e-b810-bd42c6db285f ladysaber, i completely agree with you... i also think caps are much more critical with themselves then with others :-) Sun, 24 May 2009 16:49:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1122a030-d01a-433e-b810-bd42c6db285f $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T16:49:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#35bc3b6f-dfe8-44aa-83ef-4ac588ddda25 Now, see ~ that's what I'm talking about. Gotta love this guy. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:46:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#35bc3b6f-dfe8-44aa-83ef-4ac588ddda25 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T16:46:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d497afcb-ed04-48cd-a79b-55e77c42b79a i meant ambitious in an inward way. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:46:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d497afcb-ed04-48cd-a79b-55e77c42b79a $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T16:46:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#343d443d-4a97-40e3-a955-35afe19e8f0c i am a capricorn and i dont get what a lot of non-caps say about the sign. yes, i am ambitious but in an ward way. my ambitions lie in discovering myself. i have no desire for many of the material things in this world. i have done what i have had to do so i could do things i want to do. capricorns are about reality and it is definitely one sign that knows that there are consequences to their actions. i have no desire to control or over power people, only to live my own life without having to answer to a dozen people daily. i dont want a big house or expensive car. i think this bashing is sad and is just projection of people who are miserable with themselves. capricorns pretty much keep to themselves, give their warmth and love to those few that they are close to and just want to be left alone to do their own thing. talk about empathy, compassion, or should i say any concern for consequences..... rarely do you see a cap coming onto tribe and at every chance saying something negative about another sign...how ridiculous just cause you know 1 or 2 or just studied a dozen from a far... nor do i think you will see one coming on creating post after post about what is wrong with their life, with no concern with the consequneces of their negativity, sucking people subconsciously into their unhappy shit with little relevance to "astrology."... to me that is pure ego, and lacking empathy. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:45:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#343d443d-4a97-40e3-a955-35afe19e8f0c $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T16:45:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c1aaa8fc-5c17-46e3-843d-2a4ab6011530 I didn't say anything about not liking him. I am, just as many other people are, rather fond of Meatballs. I don't like Meatballs to be too dry, but their round, ping pong ball-like appearance is certainly humorous, and I have noticed this. His posts in Swedish are also highly entertaining. He also does an excellent job of providing source attributions for his insightrul posts of astrological glyphs, so clearly he is quite a scholar. All this, combined wtih his tremendous native charm and highly developed social skills, certainly endears him to me. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:43:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c1aaa8fc-5c17-46e3-843d-2a4ab6011530 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T16:43:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b42a96b1-e777-4aa8-a43c-bd26aae3171c "Ambition is the desire to push your own will on others, and gain recognition at the same time." I disagree. The best leaders do not push their own will own others, they lead by example in order for a certain circumstance or consequence to fall into place. By showing this cause and effect to their staff, not just by speech but also by action, they tend to bring out the best in their staff. Capricorn moons happen to enjoy recognition as a side effect of their leading by example. They are not glamour seeking people. They get the job done, and if they get some limelight for it, then great, but it's not the reason why they task themselves to the job. I think of all people, Capricornian moons tend be hardest on themselves; they tend to assume others' responsibilities or feel deeply the consequences of their team mates' actions even when it's not completely their fault. When a team mate flounders at a presentation, Capricorn moons tend to hit themselves over the head with what they could have done to help better prepare their teammate with the task rather than point fingers. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:38:17 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b42a96b1-e777-4aa8-a43c-bd26aae3171c Lady Saber 2009-05-24T16:38:17Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cacdd72b-b5aa-4e05-a533-44bcd083a7fe The reason some Caps get elevated on a throne is because the surroundings don´t realize what a dull, humourless dictator they allowed to rule their workdays. BAD MISTAKE! Some folks perhaps should go and bore their fellow goats with lots of pompous rubbish... Sun, 24 May 2009 16:34:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#cacdd72b-b5aa-4e05-a533-44bcd083a7fe Joakim 2009-05-24T16:34:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2f0967b3-3aa1-48b6-8a76-520faab8b695 I live in a Scorpio Moon (me) & Capricorn Moon (my boyfriend) household ~ we each have our defined areas of 'expertise' & we do tease each other, playfully, by telling each other that, "I could/will do that better than you" ~ "my way is best & yours is horrible", etc. ~ but we both know that one of the main reasons we are together is that we are both mutually strengthened by each other's challenges to our accepted perspective (there's enough similarities there, too) & when we stumble upon the win-win situation, during our wranglings and/or we are able to put down our own viewpoint, for a second & catch a glimpse of what the other sees ~ it is like *magic* :) love all-ways, mem Sun, 24 May 2009 16:33:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#2f0967b3-3aa1-48b6-8a76-520faab8b695 MaryEllen 2009-05-24T16:33:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#22a59623-91b4-4a37-9f81-cbcab6f114ee hermit, You said: "Parsing this, I really don't see any distinction. "you have to do what I want you to do" is really no different from "I will FORCE you to do what I say." " You are correct. Those weren't the best choice of words. Let me try again. The difference is between being an authority and accepting responsibility for all the people you are boss of (Capricorn) and overpowering others and forcing them to do what you want them to do (Scorpio). Understand this is the extreme example of these energies, there are other things in a chart that will affect how both Capricorn and Scorpio energies come out. But it gives the basic idea. The Capricorn energy works its way up the ladder to become an authority step by step and, once at the top, expects everyone to accept that they are now the boss. Scorpio energy overpowers the ladder and controls those around them, and expects everyone to do what they want because of Scorpio's power. This is the difference between authority (Capricorn) and power (Scorpio). Explaining the differences, Tim Sun, 24 May 2009 16:24:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#22a59623-91b4-4a37-9f81-cbcab6f114ee Tim 2009-05-24T16:24:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#938680d3-3338-4bdc-aa06-af378d933b4b It is also true, however, that I have no planets in Capricorn in my chart. LOL! Sun, 24 May 2009 16:19:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#938680d3-3338-4bdc-aa06-af378d933b4b amiablehermit 2009-05-24T16:19:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#31f391eb-0bb8-4a7c-9e38-b8a56903266b <Furthermore, I wouldn't define ambition as the desire to improve your own circumstances, and I believe typical Saturnians don't, either. Ambition is the desire to push your own will on others, and gain recognition at the same time.> I am not so sure that ambition is the desire to push one's will on others and gain recognition in the process. That may be some people's amibition, but it is not ambition itself. If you check Dragon's Jupiter/Ambition thread, you will see that the things that I listed as amibitions (as whacked as they are) have little to nothing to do with pushing my will on anyone ~ except maybe being a rare book thief <grin>. I think that one can be ambitious in terms of achieving a sense of self-fulfillment, which is certainly a daunting ambition, but doesn't necessarily involve pushing anyone around. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:08:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#31f391eb-0bb8-4a7c-9e38-b8a56903266b amiablehermit 2009-05-24T16:08:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5191af2b-06e3-4041-b322-199f8baa20de I like Joakim. He has a great sense of dry humour that no one seems to notice. Sun, 24 May 2009 16:01:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5191af2b-06e3-4041-b322-199f8baa20de Unsubconscious 2009-05-24T16:01:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#88fdf469-dbe7-435d-a0dd-39eb5fef9bfc "I've encountered people who are threatened by ambition, but they usually seem to be people who do nothing and feel entitled to everything. While other people are complaining, Capricornians roll up their sleeves and get the job done. We trade some pretty meaningless social exchanges for proactive responsibility. That's why we end up being the bosses, and others think we're cold and ruthless." I'd have to agree. But, I must say, until Saturn hit my AC by transit, while opposing my natal Sun-Venus conjunction in Pisces, that whole philosophy was just unthinkable to me-like the idea of little green men living on Mars. And that's largely because I refused to accept the reality of my own physical limitations, and kept thinking that "pigs might fly", like the bottom of my favorite mug says. And I STILL drink from the same mug, if you know what I mean..LOL However, it's not Capricorns' desire to be excellent professionals and follow their ambitions that pisses people off. It's their airs of superiority and arrogance that does. Like I posted on my blog a few months back, I still think arrogance is a form of mental handicap that is crippling human society, and, unfortunately, most people who never practice any form of self-analysis or meditation suffer from it, to some extent. And that's because it's mainly caused by lack of empathy, or lack of ego-control. It's true that Capricorns get things done a lot faster, and maybe a lot better than most, but their presumption that the highest professionalism gives one the right to decide the fate of others, or to think in the name of others is disgusting. And, basically, it would get us nowhere if everybody thought like that-pretty much like it's getting us nowhere right now. Everybody thinks that everybody else on the planet is after the same things they're after, which leads them to conclude that if they get what they want, everybody else is bound to show awe and admiration for them, which is, of course, not true. That way, Aries people think everybody wants a great, athletic body and a golden medal in gymnastics, taurus people think everybody wants lots of luxury items, and as much money as possible, together with a beautiful spouse etc..and that everybody else, that claims otherwise is in denial. That's how disrespect is bred, and, ultimately waste-waste of precious human resources. Furthermore, I wouldn't define ambition as the desire to improve your own circumstances, and I believe typical Saturnians don't, either. Ambition is the desire to push your own will on others, and gain recognition at the same time. So, it's a much grander term-just think about the fact that Capricorn follows Sag on the Zodiac wheel, which is known as the most arrogant, over-enthusiastic, over-confident and snobbish of signs. And that kind of ambition belongs to the few capitalists that monopolize the entire economy of the world, and set the rues according to their own selfish desires. Sun, 24 May 2009 15:40:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#88fdf469-dbe7-435d-a0dd-39eb5fef9bfc MantisReligiosa 2009-05-24T15:40:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#76ceeabb-2edf-4a3b-b6f2-ed600193db09 Raises hand to being your own boss. I run my own PR consultancy. Sun, 24 May 2009 15:27:51 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#76ceeabb-2edf-4a3b-b6f2-ed600193db09 Lady Saber 2009-05-24T15:27:51Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5e8629a0-01a8-4e9d-bf81-05861c4bf266 I found something that has a very good pic for his profile: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Swedish_meatballs.jpg/800px-Swedish_meatballs.jpg&imgrefurl=http://smari.yaxic.org/blag/2008/08/&usg=__6UsqlYt5UDUaEaLAGY4LYo-47Ks=&h=562&w=800&sz=63&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=J4Mke01--hu1nM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSwedish%2Bmeatballs%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den Sun, 24 May 2009 14:45:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5e8629a0-01a8-4e9d-bf81-05861c4bf266 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T14:45:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#73a760be-78c7-4b72-8c81-72ac95c1e348 Our Swedish friend seems to be under the impression that the Meatball is a sign in the Zodiac, and is the only one of any value. Being a Meatball himself, this makes sense. Sun, 24 May 2009 14:28:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#73a760be-78c7-4b72-8c81-72ac95c1e348 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T14:28:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ef603c81-f54a-47b8-b330-2e08446920f8 Joakim is new to tribe it seems, and has no friends in his profile. Hmmmm.... Sun, 24 May 2009 14:18:30 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ef603c81-f54a-47b8-b330-2e08446920f8 Lady Saber 2009-05-24T14:18:30Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fc7d51ac-a5a5-4af8-87a9-8013e17d7728 There is something vile about your attitude, Joakim. You need to let your cortex manage your thalamus or else everything you say or write just sounds like infantile fist-shaking. Please don't post anything until you can manage not to embarrass yourself. Knock, knock, who's your Daddy? Sun, 24 May 2009 14:09:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#fc7d51ac-a5a5-4af8-87a9-8013e17d7728 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T14:09:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4cdacb68-95a9-47ff-b33b-c08ea481d4a5 Are you talking about Cap Suns or Moons? Or do you even distinguish between the two? Sun, 24 May 2009 14:01:04 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4cdacb68-95a9-47ff-b33b-c08ea481d4a5 amiablehermit 2009-05-24T14:01:04Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96bae26e-bcd1-4afd-88ad-540780409592 Thank you, Alex! I'm a Scorpio with a Moon in Capricorn and I want power and authority like I want a sore ass. I have self-control, and I work hard to earn my place in the world like anyone else. My buddy is a Leo with a Capricorn Moon and he falls under none of the negative generalizations made in this thread – he's just a shy old lion. Both of us have mothers who seem to love us more if we are more successful and make more money. All in all, we seem to be much harder on ourselves than other people. I've encountered people who are threatened by ambition, but they usually seem to be people who do nothing and feel entitled to everything. While other people are complaining, Capricornians roll up their sleeves and get the job done. We trade some pretty meaningless social exchanges for proactive responsibility. That's why we end up being the bosses, and others think we're cold and ruthless. Sun, 24 May 2009 14:01:55 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#96bae26e-bcd1-4afd-88ad-540780409592 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T14:01:55Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#81a218e9-d552-433a-9fc5-be92db7ba6af <The difference is the Capricorn energy starts from a point of "I'm the boss so " while Scorpio energy starts from a point of "I have all the power so no matter what you want to do I will FORCE you to do what I say." > Tim ~ Parsing this, I really don't see any distinction. "you have to do what I want you to do" is really no different from "I will FORCE you to do what I say." I also find that many Scorpio Moons are rather emotionally unconscious ~ unaware of what they are doing or why ~ more reactive than proactive, and reacting to an internal impetus that may have little to do with what is actually transpiring outside of themselves. Sun, 24 May 2009 13:58:16 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#81a218e9-d552-433a-9fc5-be92db7ba6af amiablehermit 2009-05-24T13:58:16Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#65042d4f-6f2e-454c-9ee0-8dac428e5bec Most Caps are no real bosses, they perhaps rule things in their head. Morons are often stubborn & never know when to quit & pack the bags. There is something vile with attemps to establish "quiet authority", to assume everyone will behave according to their wishes just because they...won´t quit! Words of advice to goats: don´t bother scorpians with your fatherly, overbearing ways. Don´t knock on that door. Sun, 24 May 2009 13:25:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#65042d4f-6f2e-454c-9ee0-8dac428e5bec Joakim 2009-05-24T13:25:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d930f8ce-a03f-4fb2-921c-58327a6ceb48 Come on, 95% of what's been written in this thread is just crap. Only the Capricorn moon's seems to know how we really are. I don't blame you though, it's not easy to really get to know a Capricorn, but all of this bashing is just offending my senses, not as a Capricorn moon, but as a human being. Having a capricorn moon is without a doubt the safest sign that you're shy. I know 5 people with Capricorn moon's including myself, and all of us are shy. You people don't have a clue how much we struggle with social situations, and most of the bad traits you mention are related to our social anxieties. The truth is, you don't really know what you're talking about at all. We don't want power in "that" sense. A Sagittarius for example have a whole different outlook on power than a Capricorn. We just don't want to get hurt. We're very similar to Cancer in that way. Atleast in my case, it's true that I seek the weaker cliques or atleast those of lesser status, but that has nothing to do with me wanting to control them. It's just that people who have lesser status are generally more modest, so they aren't as likely to backstab or ridicule you. I just feel that I can lower my guard a little more around them. Capricorn moons can definately tell minor lies to protect ourselves from embarrasment, but that's as far as our calculating ways goes. You have to remember that Capricorn is basically like the ultra-vulnerable/defensive Cancer, but with the earthy tone they are more attuned with today and what happens right now. The fear of losing opportunities is not equaled by any other sign, and with the moon involved, we fear emotional rejection more than anyone. That's why we struggle with social situations. Our instinctual defenses is too high for these situations. Sun, 24 May 2009 12:25:05 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d930f8ce-a03f-4fb2-921c-58327a6ceb48 Alex 2009-05-24T12:25:05Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0957fda7-c098-40e1-a722-c7fec0ee6ebd My man and I live together. But there's no one-upmanship here. I think if it's anything, we are comfortable in and around each other's space. We know when to withdraw, when to push and when to concede. I think if anything we are intuitive to each other's need to coccoon and recharge or re-strategise depending on the day's events, etc. Partly because we have the same north node and they are also conjunct by a couple of degrees. Our biorhythms and energy cycles are also the same. We even get hungry at the same times even when we haven't been spending the day together. The whole "who is boss" issue happens when we are dealing with moons quite different from ours. Otherwise it's an ebb and flow of who takes charge and who follows, no coercion, nothing to prove, really. Sun, 24 May 2009 12:22:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0957fda7-c098-40e1-a722-c7fec0ee6ebd Lady Saber 2009-05-24T12:22:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b716e74-c79c-4898-a13d-f28265549317 cap moon and scorp moon ... interesting question ... It might depend on the houses the moons are in. Also, it is quite easy for cap moon to be boss with scorp moon in control. I have seen plenty of situations where one person is the official authority but someone else calls the shots. This is a game that caps and scorps are both good at - finding out who is in authority and needs to be given due respect ... and finding out who is holding the cards and what they want. I should really pay more attention to these things myself ... instead I get all wrapped up in these silly ideals I get so attached to and the arian notion that I can take em all on as long as I am right and stay on my toes. I should try to seriously be a bit more balanced in this (that's how I have learned a great deal about the difference between the scorp types and the cappy types - I hate to say it but I get into clashes with both types now and then with my flaming staunch idealistic arian directness and changeable slippery mutalbe pisces-gemini nature). With the capricorn types, I learn that as long as I play by the rules and give proper respect I can probably find a way to do what I want to do or get out of what I can't bear to do. With the scorpio types it isn't that simple. There is this sort of need that never gets satisfied by myself for them to think they own me or have me. There are things that they can't make me do that they won't let go of. With capricorn type energy I can usually cite some ordinances or precedents to get around something I am against doing. With scorpio type energy it is almost like a right of passage or test of loyalty that I must do what they ask or pay. This is harder to manage and doing so involves getting at their desires and motives ... but even attempts at this often fail to yield a possible solution when they get completely fixated on a desire of theirs that I simply cannot satisfy or allow. Then it is either submit, fight to the death, or get out of reach. I haven't found any other way when that type of control sets itself on me and the flaming idealism at the core of my being will indeed choose death over being extinguished. Capricorn management and bossiness is so totally different and easier to get around in my experience. Also, capricorn energy typically permits a certain level of distance and detachment that scorpio energy doesn't stand for. I can use this distance and detachment to create space for my ideals (as long as I can find a way to make them fit and follow with proper rule and procedure) in a way that close proximity to scorpionic energy doesn't permit. These are just my experiences with capricorn compared to scorpio and power/authority issues. Sun, 24 May 2009 11:22:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5b716e74-c79c-4898-a13d-f28265549317 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-24T11:22:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#738868ce-572d-45c4-8691-7b2f208cb4b7 ritide, I agree with you. Cap moons want to be the boss. They don't control you, but they want to show you who is the boss, and they judge people. Would it be hard for cap moon couples to live together as both want to be the boss and they would judge each other? Or in a house with cap moon and scorp moon, who would be the boss? Sun, 24 May 2009 09:47:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#738868ce-572d-45c4-8691-7b2f208cb4b7 Laux 2009-05-24T09:47:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5944093d-97a0-44ca-a44e-fe33168a3383 There's something wrong with my eyes. Every time I see 'Cap moon' I read : "CRAP moon". Sun, 24 May 2009 09:13:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5944093d-97a0-44ca-a44e-fe33168a3383 Unsubconscious 2009-05-24T09:13:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ff2095c8-c906-4916-8bd1-0c3805d79c70 riptide, You said: "i think more about the word "mastery" than "control" when I think of capricorn. I associate "control" more with scorpio for some reason and pluto." I agree with this. Capricorn (and Saturn) energy is about being the "authority" or "the boss". But it's Scorpio (and Pluto) energy that is about things like "control" or "power". The difference is the Capricorn energy starts from a point of "I'm the boss so you have to do what I want you to do" while Scorpio energy starts from a point of "I have all the power so no matter what you want to do I will FORCE you to do what I say." If you have a boss who wants to the authority AND overpower their employees there is usually some type of Capricorn (and/or Saturn) and Scorpio (and/or Pluto) combination going on. Agreeing, Tim Sat, 23 May 2009 15:54:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ff2095c8-c906-4916-8bd1-0c3805d79c70 Tim 2009-05-23T15:54:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#18753fa6-e366-4834-8a9b-b67fd1806abd i think more about the word "mastery" than "control" when I think of capricorn. I associate "control" more with scorpio for some reason and pluto. Mastery may relate to others or it may just be self mastery or the mastery of some art or profession. Each capricorn entity is likely to define its own sphere of mastery probably highly related to the houses involved and aspects and things. Mastery is less about determining outcomes and toying with variables and more about knowing something inside and out and being in the right position to manage whatever sphere of mastery is in question. Managing from a position is slightly nuanced than controlling and manipulating by cause and effect in my opinion. With the moon I often think of security. So capricorn moon may feel most secure when they are in that position of mastery within their defined sphere and there is probably a strong drive to achieve that. Sat, 23 May 2009 14:11:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#18753fa6-e366-4834-8a9b-b67fd1806abd $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-23T14:11:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b9ae0400-d0cc-4fb6-a82d-582440d633db <SQUISH> That's the sound of Leo stepping on your inner fantasy. Sat, 23 May 2009 13:54:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b9ae0400-d0cc-4fb6-a82d-582440d633db amiablehermit 2009-05-23T13:54:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c86dd463-0bb8-4ad0-9fef-d789c0fc8c80 Scorps in general should stack their fridges with "köttbullar", just add some lingonberry-jam & cook some "brunsås" in a pot, I´m sure most stingers will end that meal with a: "-WHY WEREN´T THERE ENOUGH OF THOSE LOVELY SCANDINAVIAN MEATBALLS & WHY WAS THAT DELICIOUS BROWN SAUCE NOT INTRODUCED TO ME EARLIER !!?" roar.... Sat, 23 May 2009 12:20:57 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#c86dd463-0bb8-4ad0-9fef-d789c0fc8c80 Joakim 2009-05-23T12:20:57Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1ef4c4c0-52db-4c6a-a1b8-1b3799a20180 Suddenly my inner fantasy, movie-world concerning the anti-hero big, bad papa Scorp reappears, I think he has put on his best rattler-boots & come to town to settle an old score with the fearsome Leo-brothers, big talkers with flashy ways that once tried to run Papa from his farm. Now he´s come back (from the dead?) to set things straight once & for all...I´m not sure how this action-drama develops, the whole thing is kinda hazy... Sat, 23 May 2009 12:04:47 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1ef4c4c0-52db-4c6a-a1b8-1b3799a20180 Joakim 2009-05-23T12:04:47Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#550dc6dc-80fa-44fa-ad7b-b6295a48a13b <CRUNCH> That's the sound of biting into my grilled scorpion breakfast. Care to join him Joakim? Sat, 23 May 2009 10:03:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#550dc6dc-80fa-44fa-ad7b-b6295a48a13b amiablehermit 2009-05-23T10:03:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eb0ff4c4-d53c-4c00-8783-688da6cc0cc9 And off goes the pussy's light within 10 seconds of the post. Run. Its better for you. Sat, 23 May 2009 08:51:32 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eb0ff4c4-d53c-4c00-8783-688da6cc0cc9 Flint 2009-05-23T08:51:32Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#75739b0c-723f-4c8b-91f5-fd1eaa69be74 'LOL...you took my comment too seriously, Paul. My post was a facetious and sarcastic response to the initial post'' then why did ya fucking bother? you are an asshole. We so need sarcastic and facetious astrology guru;s around here. If you have nothing to be taken seriously, shut the fuck up asshole. But then you won't, and wonder why people like myself comment. So come on, you pussy pandering asshole, add something of worth, or have no criticism when i come to be sarcastic with ya all. You teach people then shit on them afterwards, your astrology is not worth 5 cents, and i pity the idiot that would consult you. In the end, it means you are kinda more like me than not. And pity those who are too stupid to see the difference. Go on guru goody. Herd that shitty advice and input right off the nearest cliff, shepard of the reading impaired. blah blah blah Sat, 23 May 2009 08:50:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#75739b0c-723f-4c8b-91f5-fd1eaa69be74 Flint 2009-05-23T08:50:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bd0e1319-7e46-410c-b87d-1ab19b5222f8 Perhaps I lack proper understanding of true goats? Maybe fear is speaking? Think there is some sort of jungle-cat that´s not very impressive to look at, but the natives know that that wee kitty is the meanest baddie in the jungle, due to it´s strategy to NEVER EVER STOP STALKING IT´S PREY! Some Caps must have been on safaris & really studied that furry monstrosity! (But perhaps the single Cap I rave about was insane, have that ever occured to me? Well, perhaps. Could be.)' I tell people not to fucking poke the kitty, but they must insist, ergo, i must deliver. :) Sat, 23 May 2009 08:40:48 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bd0e1319-7e46-410c-b87d-1ab19b5222f8 Flint 2009-05-23T08:40:48Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#28b6dca2-ecbc-4549-8242-e5586996d30d are you saying naughty stuff in swedish? I hear there has been a rise in such activity with swedish tribe users. hmmmmm.... you are kinda naughty sometimes, Joakim. Its just that no one catches ya at it. Sat, 23 May 2009 08:39:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#28b6dca2-ecbc-4549-8242-e5586996d30d Flint 2009-05-23T08:39:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ba6bab22-4f99-4c76-9423-5f08e83649a8 "Mars is the focal point of a well defined kite." Do you mean the moon? I could easily be wrong here, but I thought the "focal point" of the kite was opposite the quiver of the arrow and string (sextiles), if we were looking at the kite as a crossbow... Fri, 22 May 2009 22:49:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#ba6bab22-4f99-4c76-9423-5f08e83649a8 ~FaF~ 2009-05-22T22:49:49Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8fb1816-71ea-4a63-8a5d-615383d89281 Sweden? Köttbullar? Fri, 22 May 2009 22:46:44 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b8fb1816-71ea-4a63-8a5d-615383d89281 Joakim 2009-05-22T22:46:44Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4682ad3b-f95c-409c-aa1c-4a9f3fed13f2 but more important my moon is in my 4th house thats make me not so psycopatic ;-) Fri, 22 May 2009 22:31:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4682ad3b-f95c-409c-aa1c-4a9f3fed13f2 bertil 2009-05-22T22:31:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b537858b-ea93-4d7e-8a86-1d8d5fa9f269 Perhaps I lack proper understanding of true goats? Maybe fear is speaking? Think there is some sort of jungle-cat that´s not very impressive to look at, but the natives know that that wee kitty is the meanest baddie in the jungle, due to it´s strategy to NEVER EVER STOP STALKING IT´S PREY! Some Caps must have been on safaris & really studied that furry monstrosity! (But perhaps the single Cap I rave about was insane, have that ever occured to me? Well, perhaps. Could be.) Fri, 22 May 2009 22:28:21 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#b537858b-ea93-4d7e-8a86-1d8d5fa9f269 Joakim 2009-05-22T22:28:21Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e494914f-b1a0-4a9c-9d2f-16aefbd27a82 I am a cap moon trine sun pluto uranus sextil neptun and septil saturnus and square venus in libra my father is a cap moon too my mother has asc in cap..... well I notice my mother is hard and calculating sometimes---i dont like but she shifts she is a cancer....so sometimes I love her more..... yes I can be competitive lika my father and it can be tough but generally I like competition and ambition when I work I do it hard I correct others easily too I can erase negative emotions with a system.... I choose to be in power sadness is not a powerful state as I tell a piscean friend its an enigma for me that people stay in negative states..... Fri, 22 May 2009 22:27:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#e494914f-b1a0-4a9c-9d2f-16aefbd27a82 bertil 2009-05-22T22:27:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8852931b-8b95-4fbf-90ff-2580377046a6 "Mars is the focal point of a well defined kite." Do you mean the moon? He also has an 'interesting' T-Square with Sun, Saturn and Jupiter. Fri, 22 May 2009 22:16:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#8852931b-8b95-4fbf-90ff-2580377046a6 Paul 2009-05-22T22:16:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eaf83eab-68ec-4564-a8b0-d34af7f7d5ae "LOL...you took my comment too seriously, Paul. My post was a facetious and sarcastic response to the initial post. " Oh. erm. yes ... that's right... I know that... yup...ok move along now...nothing to see... Fri, 22 May 2009 21:48:54 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#eaf83eab-68ec-4564-a8b0-d34af7f7d5ae Paul 2009-05-22T21:48:54Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d2dc1411-fff1-42ac-9d3b-c3a4c513f381 exactly. Fri, 22 May 2009 20:07:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d2dc1411-fff1-42ac-9d3b-c3a4c513f381 Flint 2009-05-22T20:07:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#be688cb9-463d-4814-aa02-33f5322df635 continuing... : ) His intensity comes, I believe from his Scorpio ascendant, with 1st house Pluto at 0'5, trine Saturn and Mars. Mars is the focal point of a well defined kite. His chart is dynamic, and is very much a flip side or mirror image of my own.... http://people.tribe.net/1bcd04bf-d092-432a-93ff-249f20c2dc1b/photos/74210362-90d9-4091-821c-bdc0e890e589 Fri, 22 May 2009 18:10:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#be688cb9-463d-4814-aa02-33f5322df635 ~FaF~ 2009-05-22T18:10:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#64a15e26-b217-4aa6-af83-297bfc618145 >>>No one said cap moons aren't social or don't like to talk. <<< <<but, ultimately, the house in which the Moon resides has the final word, together with planetary aspects. >> It is easier for me, personally, to look to the houses, as sherpa suggests. My Son has Sun conjunct Mercury, 11th house. His Moon, Neptune and Uranus (all conjunct) trine Sun and Mercury from the 3rd house. This child the most social person I have ever met. He wants to be with people *always*. He experiences his world and learns through a process of communicating and *sorting it out* with others. He does this with great intensity.... Fri, 22 May 2009 17:45:13 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#64a15e26-b217-4aa6-af83-297bfc618145 ~FaF~ 2009-05-22T17:45:13Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#30f55f7f-4830-4eee-8448-b33b1ba941cc <<but, ultimately, the house in which the Moon resides has the final word, together with planetary aspects. >> Excellent point, Mantis. When I interpret entire charts, I also view House placement and aspects as far more significant than the Sign a Planet is in. A 1st House Capricorn Moon differs wildly from a 7th House Capricorn Moon, for example and if that Moon opposes Saturn or conjuncts Uranus, well, these will be altogether different Moons. Though the astrological Sign is important, I don't see it as equal in importance to Houses, Planets or Aspects. When any astrological Sign is invested with a priori status, without considering the House, Planets and Aspects, a kind of interpretive laziness sets in; precision is lost to generalization. Fri, 22 May 2009 17:23:41 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#30f55f7f-4830-4eee-8448-b33b1ba941cc sherpa 2009-05-22T17:23:41Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d243362a-6af7-4633-adf6-6b632a3966db No one said cap moons aren't social or don't like to talk. Fri, 22 May 2009 17:15:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d243362a-6af7-4633-adf6-6b632a3966db Laux 2009-05-22T17:15:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1468edd0-83a0-416c-b8f4-1fc071488071 sherpa: "Probably everybody attempts to claim power in some calculating way or another. It's not Capricorn's fault; it's a human thing. " Paul <<I don't necessarily agree Sherpa, or at least I don't agree that getting power is a calculating thing. There are many instances when power is thrust upon somebody whether they wanted it or not. >> LOL...you took my comment too seriously, Paul. My post was a facetious and sarcastic response to the initial post. Fri, 22 May 2009 17:01:12 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1468edd0-83a0-416c-b8f4-1fc071488071 sherpa 2009-05-22T17:01:12Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#125291b0-d221-4f2f-bf43-40edafe20839 Hmmm. Much of what I read here resonate with my son, age 12. He is Virgo sun 29' 59~ Cap Moon, 29' 59~Scorpio Asc 15'00. He is resistant, resilient, and resourceful. Definitely seeks respect, but he has difficulty applying "proper" social behaviors. Fri, 22 May 2009 16:52:45 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#125291b0-d221-4f2f-bf43-40edafe20839 ~FaF~ 2009-05-22T16:52:45Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#457c0c77-ec6d-4632-ab24-3521e2dafd47 But do we all do it with such a relentless , emotionless demeanor. What happened to win-win? Their actions, based on the 5 I know quite well, are considered and always for some unstated personal gain or agenda. I would even venture to say, they behavior is passive-aggressive. Fri, 22 May 2009 16:44:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#457c0c77-ec6d-4632-ab24-3521e2dafd47 victoria 2009-05-22T16:44:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#05e0da5e-a7bf-4109-a995-85807c953ee6 Many Caps act like hyenas: sly cowards that avoid opponents of similar size, they prey on the weak & design their plans so they can take advantage of decent folks naive, trusting ways. Few can imagine that such putrid characters exist among them, it defies belief! "-No" is not an answer these vultures accept from anyone, they return sniffing again & again until their foul desires are satisfied. Perverse Caps are monsters found in the same bestiary as the worst Aquarians... Fri, 22 May 2009 16:04:43 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#05e0da5e-a7bf-4109-a995-85807c953ee6 Joakim 2009-05-22T16:04:43Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#179d8414-c956-4e86-9b81-78b6820f3725 cap moons are compassionate and nice, but they would never risk their authority over anything. They need to secure their power before they give compassion. Like I said, they decide when to make you smile, when to make you do what and when to make you feel guilty or happy. Cap moons want to be leaders, whether they admit or not, every step is calculated towards that position, whether in family or at work. Fri, 22 May 2009 14:44:53 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#179d8414-c956-4e86-9b81-78b6820f3725 Laux 2009-05-22T14:44:53Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d0db6066-91dd-40c2-8d35-5652c865c824 also a good example of looking past moon signs & the importance of looking at the entire natal chart... my mom is very social, she has a gemini ascendant with mercury in leo in 3rd house... she loves to talk! Fri, 22 May 2009 13:26:39 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#d0db6066-91dd-40c2-8d35-5652c865c824 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-22T13:26:39Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f9568bcd-880a-4c60-baba-65f34436e4df "i honestly dont think control issues are designated to planets placed in certain signs, potential may be there, but aspects created in the natal chart and how the person deals with this energy is more relevant. " I think I agree with this. Or at least this more so than the influence of one planet in one sign! Fri, 22 May 2009 13:25:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#f9568bcd-880a-4c60-baba-65f34436e4df Paul 2009-05-22T13:25:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1f4127e2-e551-47dd-9fa5-cecc9710891d I think it's true that Cap Moons NOTICE the issue of who's in control, or in authority faster than any other Moon(same effect is probable with Saturn aspecting the Moon), but, ultimately, the house in which the Moon resides has the final word, together with planetary aspects. My sister has a Cap Moon, but conjunct Mercury, and square Jupiter in Aries, and in the 7th house. She actually says that she has trouble accepting responsibilities, and making a commitment. And the love of diplomacy is very obvious in her energy. She's always careful not to offend anyone, and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. also, despite being ambitious, would never try to push herself over others, or impose her own will at all costs. I think the Venus in Cap, and in the 7th, also has some say. She's tactful and graceful in social situations, making use of the cold, sharp perception of her Capricorn planets. Fri, 22 May 2009 13:24:56 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#1f4127e2-e551-47dd-9fa5-cecc9710891d MantisReligiosa 2009-05-22T13:24:56Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7911bdd2-29b2-4137-b89e-ef31f128a962 "Some Caps think they can do what they like to other people, they act they way they find appropriate in a quiet way with disgusting, leering grins on their faces. Very passive-aggressive, fond of playing sick mind-games." Yes that's true. And some are also very loving, caring and compassionate, but don't always know how to show it. Remember that Cancer is the other side of the axis. I know one or two leery caps who I don't particularly get on well with, but I probably know more who are warm-hearted and caring, but all of them are very much into career. The career part of capricorn seems very true to me, everything else is as likely to be found in any sign to lesser or greater degrees. Seems like you've met a few bad apples. Not all the caps are like that! Sometimes Cap gets bitter because of hard knocks through life. With Saturn as their ruling planet, it can't always be easy. I think we can forgive them that! Fri, 22 May 2009 13:24:37 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#7911bdd2-29b2-4137-b89e-ef31f128a962 Paul 2009-05-22T13:24:37Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4113239a-110e-471d-b122-ed9d84e345aa my mom has a cap moon and most of the negative stuff here doesnt even sound familiar. the only thing i can say is that she shows her emotions in a nondirect way. if i am upset or something is going on her reaction isnt to hug or give me comforting words, she shows me she cares by making my favorite meal or being extra nice to me. i honestly dont think control issues are designated to planets placed in certain signs, potential may be there, but aspects created in the natal chart and how the person deals with this energy is more relevant. Fri, 22 May 2009 13:08:46 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#4113239a-110e-471d-b122-ed9d84e345aa $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-22T13:08:46Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#489da859-b9c5-4b92-a47f-995ee974fe63 "Some" other people with other signs behave the same way. Fri, 22 May 2009 12:48:07 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#489da859-b9c5-4b92-a47f-995ee974fe63 amiablehermit 2009-05-22T12:48:07Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#deb341f1-a16e-40c0-b240-529703c590e4 Some Caps think they can do what they like to other people, they act they way they find appropriate in a quiet way with disgusting, leering grins on their faces. Very passive-aggressive, fond of playing sick mind-games. Fri, 22 May 2009 12:17:40 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#deb341f1-a16e-40c0-b240-529703c590e4 Joakim 2009-05-22T12:17:40Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09e31d3d-a60a-4af8-b476-33dbb23ee46d in a way, they decide when to make you talk to them, when to make you smile at them, when to listen to them. Fri, 22 May 2009 10:54:06 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#09e31d3d-a60a-4af8-b476-33dbb23ee46d Laux 2009-05-22T10:54:06Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5867e045-1613-432b-9f39-43da262472f2 the capi moon couple I know are inseparable and they look dependant on each other, but there is great cultivated respect (that was the distance I was talking about) between them. They don't want to offend each other. They discuss everything when they make decision; making decision alone means disrespect. It looks as if they are so afraid of letting out any hint of disrespect. They don't tease or make fun of each other. (teasing for cap moons might mean disrespect). They don't want to give other people any chance to tease them. In a way, they are in control of everything. They do everything to prevent you from coming closer. When they smile at you, you smile back, but when you want to have a broader smile or laugh, they withdraw. Fri, 22 May 2009 10:50:33 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5867e045-1613-432b-9f39-43da262472f2 Laux 2009-05-22T10:50:33Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#91443551-747c-4249-b502-8c923d396613 "Probably everybody attempts to claim power in some calculating way or another. It's not Capricorn's fault; it's a human thing. " I don't necessarily agree Sherpa, or at least I don't agree that getting power is a calculating thing. There are many instances when power is thrust upon somebody whether they wanted it or not. Many times people automatically hand over power to somebody who probably didn't want that power. Even in smaller ways imagine you amongst many of your friends and one of you wants to know which restaurant to eat at, undoubtedly there will be somebody that you all instinctively look toward to answer that question. This is a very minor example but it works on larger scales. There are many examples of someone thrust into the limelight and handed power that they never wanted. The converse is also true where somebody is handed over the power and responsibility who did not want either and is made a scapegoat out of. Think of an Aries sitting on a train and an accident happens and the train crashes. Whilst the Libra beside him is going through different stages of shock the Aries will have already gotten up, headed for the exit and started evacuating. He may start issuing orders to people, getting someone to phone an ambulance, someone else to smash a window etc etc. He has TAKEN power, true, but it was not a calculated decision. It was instinctual. Aries acts and reacts to what is happening. Sometimes that is what people need and people will automatically hand over a great deal of power to Aries when that temperament is needed. At other times people will elect somebody to speak on their behalf - on behalf of the group. Perhaps that person will be Gemini. People sometimes recognise when someone else is best for the job and will hand that job to them and the power and responsibility that goes with it, without blinking. It is instinctual, especially during times when time is against them. Fri, 22 May 2009 10:08:52 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#91443551-747c-4249-b502-8c923d396613 Paul 2009-05-22T10:08:52Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a35e903c-bb98-4378-86ef-65e91ef65303 I have few cap moons close to me. My observations is that they can be extreme workaholics and do strive to high position, but through their hard work. They do invest most of their energy in work area, but have some troubles in emotional department. They are caring and protective, but occasionaly turn ice cold and freeze blood in my veins. Also i noticed theyre pretty moody, and need to have everything under control Fri, 22 May 2009 10:08:27 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a35e903c-bb98-4378-86ef-65e91ef65303 Roxie 2009-05-22T10:08:27Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0f7a102b-ee69-4f4f-9245-996065252aa6 Lol @ Brendan wanting to be a great tree or mushroom. I can identify with the fact that Capricorn moons don't always want to be sociable, they just want to get down to business without all the niceties, which can get in the way of work and time! Fri, 22 May 2009 10:00:36 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#0f7a102b-ee69-4f4f-9245-996065252aa6 Lady Saber 2009-05-22T10:00:36Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a5a1ac54-f309-400c-8338-d378363a0730 Hmmm am a cap moon with a cap moon lover. We are hardly distanced, but a lot of that has to do with a very populated 1st house, by both synastry and composite charts. First house is the house of fatal love at first sight. Friends have often said how we always seem inseparable from each other even at parties. We are a very touchy feely couple which in essence is not very Capricorn moon. This could be because he is a Pisces man, and I have a lot of planets in Scorpio. Capricorn moon people are also likely to have mothers who are not very available to them (emotionally or otherwise) at birth for a variety of reasons that include divorce, unreasonable ambition like what you said. Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a5a1ac54-f309-400c-8338-d378363a0730 Lady Saber 2009-05-22T09:59:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6f80ced6-6ab2-45b8-add6-6f5c0432fbd8 "At work, cap moons follow all ethics stringnetly and they don't forget to correct others (maybe to show superiority or just can't stand it when others don't do the same). They look irritated by others quite easily, either with silence or look." Yes and no. I mind my own business and get my work done. I know I get irritated with others easily. Sometimes I wonder why I have to go through this whole human thing. I would've made a great tree or a mushroom or something... "And between 2 cap moon lovers, they would be polite and respectable even formal towards each other even after many years together. They look distanced from each other." Sounds like a cold combination. Maybe with other aspects going on, two Cappy Moons could warm it up a bit. Who knows... I'm sure stranger things have happened. Fri, 22 May 2009 09:55:09 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#6f80ced6-6ab2-45b8-add6-6f5c0432fbd8 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-22T09:55:09Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#79fa1d98-8e72-4498-8f50-dd83ee6468f2 "One thing I've noticed: Cap Moon people tend to have mothers who gave the impression that she'd love us more if we were more rich and successful." noticed that too. At work, cap moons follow all ethics stringnetly and they don't forget to correct others (maybe to show superiority or just can't stand it when others don't do the same). They look irritated by others quite easily, either with silence or look. And between 2 cap moon lovers, they would be polite and respectable even formal towards each other even after many years together. They look distanced from each other. Fri, 22 May 2009 09:41:14 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#79fa1d98-8e72-4498-8f50-dd83ee6468f2 Laux 2009-05-22T09:41:14Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5509235f-2e29-4d5d-bafc-fce297dfba06 I have a Capricorn moon. I don't want power over other people, but I do want respect, and I earn it by extending respect to others. Cap moon people tend to extend respect to people who are unsympathetic and cannot reciprocate it. The Cappy Moon who seeks stupid/weak individuals is probably taking the shortcut to being the top of some food chain. It's a hard aspect in general, but it's just one example of how one may go about politicking. The individual's aspects and placements make a huge difference as well; not all Cappy Moons are alike. A well-developed Cap Moon can feed on much more substantial prey. (RIP, Dr. Christopher S. Hyatt, Ph.D.) Polite, serious, distanced, yes, but you left out shy and insecure. It's charming when it ripens over the course of a lifetime, as it softens the ascent into confidence with modesty and understanding. But some buds never blossom, and the native stays in the larval stages of the Cap Moon personality development cycle until death. One thing I've noticed: Cap Moon people tend to have mothers who gave the impression that she'd love us more if we were more rich and successful. Cappy moons need to cultivate self-respect without the need for external validation; that's when the rubber meets the road. Fri, 22 May 2009 09:07:58 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#5509235f-2e29-4d5d-bafc-fce297dfba06 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-22T09:07:58Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#71020fff-70d3-470e-badd-7d559c31b498 i know it sounds whacked. even his father thot he was whacked. I, am whacked, in fact. "the thing is that it just comes naturally." thats what i meant by: ' yet natural to their psyche's sort of way.' "We quite often are moved up way before those who have been there much longer"" and thats what i meant by: ""when the rungs of life have been leveled somewhat.'' anyway, dats my 2 cents, which are not worth much in the reptilian overlord world of today. :) Fri, 22 May 2009 08:52:31 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#71020fff-70d3-470e-badd-7d559c31b498 Flint 2009-05-22T08:52:31Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bb1e5060-27e8-4f73-9967-cc008fcbc1ff I have a 3rd house Capricorn Moon and that sounds pretty whacked Travis. The thing is that it just comes naturally. Those that are in charge or in power just see our emotional stability, Siriusness (LOL), maturity and dedication to our work so they just naturally give us places of authority and responsibility. Those that know don't want to give power to someone that seems unstable or could not really handle the responsibility. We are quite often favored by older people who are in those positions already. We quite often are moved up way before those who have been there much longer. If there is any calculating, it is in us knowing that if we work hard and show our abilities we will be noticed by those who matter, as well as be ridiculed by those who are envious or do not share the same work ethics. A strong Saturnian influence such as that greatly need a Jupiter influence to lighten it up a bit, and I was blessed enough to receive a 1º sextile to Jupiter in my chart. It seems to help things out a bit :) Fri, 22 May 2009 08:46:08 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#bb1e5060-27e8-4f73-9967-cc008fcbc1ff Sirius 2009-05-22T08:46:08Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39d4d19e-801b-4ba7-9e64-c652714cb9a4 a perfect example is a guy i knew, that lost his whole military career, because he just could not except the fact he was locked out of the basketball gym in the middle of the night, and had to break in to just play a game. cause he - just - had - to. they can be fun in the later parts of their lives tho, when the rungs of life have been leveled somewhat. Fri, 22 May 2009 08:14:18 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#39d4d19e-801b-4ba7-9e64-c652714cb9a4 Flint 2009-05-22T08:14:18Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#221b69e8-10b8-4458-bcfc-a14a9669f7c4 'Do capricorn moon people claim power in a calculating way? I know a few capricorn moons, who are polite and serious and seem to keep a distance from others. They could open up to only the stupid and weak ones, who need help. They seem to constantly have competition with others for respect.'' yes, capricorns claim power in BOTH a calculating, yet natural to their psyche's sort of way. they do get acclimated to having that power and control easily. And they do indeed, have constant competions with others for respect - for a good reason - they usually came to their 'self-respect' by calculatedly stealing it - like the power and control they love - so they have an ongoing subconcious guilt - because they most likely did do something unworthy. They can't quite get control of themselves to stop, but feel guilty eternally (or they would be a psychopath), cause they can't quite - do - the - right - thing. EVEN if they can. Fri, 22 May 2009 06:37:34 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#221b69e8-10b8-4458-bcfc-a14a9669f7c4 Flint 2009-05-22T06:37:34Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dbac570b-b7d8-4227-954e-15a59aca0980 well then crap, why bother with astrology at all, if everything is general to the human condition? its logic thingey. hee hee. just sharin' some love so you wouldn't ferget i love ya! Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:20 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#dbac570b-b7d8-4227-954e-15a59aca0980 Flint 2009-05-22T06:32:20Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a50ec480-903f-4f65-9162-d3f7152adcca Do capricorn moon people claim power in a calculating way? Probably everybody attempts to claim power in some calculating way or another. It's not Capricorn's fault; it's a human thing. Fri, 22 May 2009 06:23:35 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#a50ec480-903f-4f65-9162-d3f7152adcca sherpa 2009-05-22T06:23:35Z http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#968ecf2e-e69a-41d8-936f-78de3f0dba3b Do capricorn moon people claim power in a calculating way? I know a few capricorn moons, who are polite and serious and seem to keep a distance from others. They could open up to only the stupid and weak ones, who need help. They seem to constantly have competition with others for respect. Fri, 22 May 2009 06:19:49 GMT http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/1aa70c93-a0a0-4d61-b25d-bbf7c969042b#968ecf2e-e69a-41d8-936f-78de3f0dba3b Laux 2009-05-22T06:19:49Z