Venus trine Jupiter anyone???

topic posted Tue, August 19, 2008 - 9:06 PM by  offlineLuis - Amiab...
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OK, so the luckiest, bestest best aspect of them all. Any feedback?

Me ive got it with a 1° orb between Cappy (Ven) and Taurus (Jup) in the 1st and 4th houses respectively. Personally i can consider ive been fairly "lucky" throughout my life, with most things working out by themselves (as soon as i realize me trying to force them and push them around wont achieve anything), of course, this coming from hard work. (and im really, really oversyntheti..si..zing, yeah)

Anyone else???
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    Tue, August 19, 2008 - 11:07 PM
    That is a nice aspect to have, though Venus in Capricorn has no dignity in a night chart like yours at such a late degree. That makes the planet weakened (peregrine), and this says the dispositor is Capricorn's ruler of Saturn (the Greater Malefic). It adds seriousness to Venus. The reception between the two planets isn't great either, since Capricorn is Jupiter's fall. Though both planets (the Lesser and Greater Fortune) are in cadent houses, which is also benefic.

    It seems like Saturn is your strongest plant, so it's good to have that trine to help balance out the negative that comes with that. Capricorn rising can be difficult.
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      Tue, August 19, 2008 - 11:09 PM
      I know someone with Jupiter and Venus at 0 degree orb conjunction in Leo in the 10th, conjunct the PoF and the Sun in Leo. I think that probably takes the cake for what I've seen. No wonder he drives a Mercedes.
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      Fri, August 22, 2008 - 8:17 PM
      "I don't have the trine, but the sextile of these two. Similar aspects, yes? "
      yeah, it comes almost as easy as the trine

      "I never thought about luck, that would be to do with Jupiter?"
      i guess so, yeah, idk, theyre both "good" planets, so, yeah. anyways.... any feedback on your life experience?? any similarities to mine, differences? (trying to rule out the other planets, of course, yet.. trying to combine the aspect with the signs and houses they fall in)

      "That makes the planet weakened (peregrine), and this says the dispositor is Capricorn's ruler of Saturn (the Greater Malefic). It adds seriousness to Venus. The reception between the two planets isn't great either"

      eheh. too much info i probably didnt want to know. oh well, anyways, i must say, i do feel as, say, sort of "protected." as in having things NOT affecting me either because i arrived a second or two they happened, or, even if involved in them, no matter how screwed around i was, i always seemed "favored" in some way or another, making whatever bad thing was happening a little bit less bad, or more bearable. anyways, i know im really overgeneralizing here, but, yeah, its the idea. i insist, even if, in the end, there isnt such thing as "luck" i can say sometimes, most of the times, i seem to somehow be .. synchronized.. with about everything. most of the times either i get away with it or have things happen/develop easier... i may be biased, now, but um.. yeah.

      "Capricorn rising can be difficult"

      it REALLY can be difficult, yeah, you bet, hah
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    Sat, August 23, 2008 - 3:33 PM
    I have Venus trine *Uranus* and Jupiter trine Midheaven, but no Venus trine Jupiter.
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      Sat, August 23, 2008 - 3:53 PM
      eheh now that you mention it, theres a lot of talk going around "venus trine uranus" (well, the hard aspects, really) as in how it "might" (and take this with a pinch of salt) be the indication of a diferent orientation, now, im not implying anything, just commenting on whats the general idea about this.. in what signs is this aspect falling? any feedback?
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        Sat, August 23, 2008 - 4:10 PM
        My Jupiter is afflicted (no good aspects), so I am jealous of you all. LOL I have three squares from my stellium in the 10th to Jupiter in the 1st. I am just waiting for the sh*t to go down in my career with that one. I guess I don't believe astrology is so fatalistic as that though.
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        Sat, August 23, 2008 - 4:12 PM
        Ah, nono- I am not bi/gay lol. I am straight as they come.

        My Venus is in Aries and my Jupiter is in Aquarius- Venus in the 8th house and Jupiter in the 6th house.
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          Tue, September 29, 2009 - 8:21 PM
          Well my Sun is heavily afflicted, 3 squares and no good aspects... SOOO... Youve nothing to be jealous about =)
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            Tue, September 29, 2009 - 8:49 PM
            You might assume that good Jupiter placements would be in rich ppl's charts, but I hear they often have placements like Saturn in the 2nd - which make them have a fear of poverty, so that they work harder to go after what they want. Easy Jupiter aspects are often seen in over weight, lazy people's charts, in my opinion. Both Donald Trump and Bill Gates have Jupiter square to Venus conj Saturn. Warren Buffett has Jupiter opposite Saturn (in Cap in the 1st - his strongest planet) and square Venus.

            The guy I referenced in this post earlier with the Sun, Jupiter, Venus, PoF conjunction in Leo in the 10th was raised into wealth and does have an easy life. He has Libra rising also, so he has to project an image of beauty/wealth too. A manipulative b*stard to boot. People who work for their fortunes seem to have a debilitated Jupiter.
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              Thu, October 1, 2009 - 11:36 AM
              My girlfriend has Jupiter AND Saturn conjunct her Sun. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how that tends to work for her, but she's very hard-working and determined, but usually still has a fairly up-beat attitude, even when things are really rough. So maybe that's one of the influences, there. Seems like it could be a really useful combination for helping someone to be tough, hard-working, and ambitious without being as bogged down in the depression that some people can get from Saturn.
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    Tue, September 29, 2009 - 8:38 PM
    I know a man with Sun conjunct Venus 21 degrees Scorpio trine Jupiter 25 degrees Cancer. He seems pretty lucky, but I think it is also from "hard work." Very charming, and he has a sweet tooth.
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      Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:09 PM
      My idea of the best Jupiter aspect would be something like the Sun conjunct Jupiter cazimi at 29 degrees Leo, in partile conjunction to Regulus. I wonder if anyone alive out there has THAT.
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        Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:39 PM
        I have a Venus conjunct Jupiter cusping my 3rd house, and I'm 42. When I was little, little, I just knew all would be great if I believed it would be, lost that for a little while (OK, 26 yrs to be exact), but now I'm starting to remember. There's that faith element with Jupiter you know.
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      Wed, September 30, 2009 - 9:03 AM
      b - of course - indulgence! Now I can blame the 'mother bearing hips' on my natal chart, and carry on feasting, confident in the knowledge that their's 'absolutey nothing I can do about it'! I love a good get out clause ;)
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        Wed, September 30, 2009 - 5:11 PM
        Wow Viki, youve just hit the nail. no matter how pessimistic things (and myself) can be, i just KNOW that if i keep having FAITH in things, things will just work out... by themselves!

        most of the times this is what has happened, now, i wont discuss if its because of my prior, good actions or the consequences of my good works... forget that, many times things that escape out of my control actually turn out to benefit me... AT THE END, no matter how despairing, chaotic the road to that End can be.

        i must say i was my parents spoiled child, although home life has never been particularly joyful or tranquil, still, between me and my sister? Hm.. im definitely the pampered one. (figures? lol). authority figures usually prefer me too (except two or three.... but i dont like them either, so, who cares), and many, many times to count i seem to have this nonsensical perfect timing that just aids me accomplishing my goals. too many BIG coincidences to keep thinking theyre just "coincidences"......

        ring a bell????!?!?
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          Thu, October 1, 2009 - 7:09 AM
          HAHAHA! Yes, Luis - Amiable It certainly does ring a bell. To be honest though, I think my sun opposite uranus placement has something to do with this for me personally - i'm usually very placid and have often ended up bad situations through not standing up for myself enough, and each time that's happened *BANG* goes sun opp uranus and there's an almighty explosion that I created to rectify the situation like a bulldozer - whatever it takes! I think the venus trine jupiter really makes things easier in terms of no matter what is going wrong, how bad things are, the optimism remains and the crux of it is that it helps you ride the tide in the knowledge there will be gold at the end of that rainbow! The difficult thing with venus trine jupiter is that in order to get the best out of the placement you have to take action and utilise it on a more a concious level, otherwise there is a danger of living in a kind of 'make believe fairy-tale bubble', which is all just a bit of an illusion. It's lovely to feel the optimism as a constant state of mind with no effort, but to to feel the kind of optimism such a placement can bring when you have gone the next mile and over - ridden the lazy tendencies that this aspect can give, really puts you onto a winning streak, with truly delicious rewards, that are tangible not only to you, but to others too. It's an aspect that's all to easily used half heartedly, which is a real shame.
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    Wed, September 30, 2009 - 5:25 PM
    "OK, so the luckiest, bestest best aspect of them all. Any feedback?"

    There are a lot of lucky aspects, though. I don't have that one, but I have Spica straddling my moon, and I have to admit I'm fortunate as hell.
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      Wed, September 30, 2009 - 6:08 PM
      My venus is conjunct jupiter in taurus and i don't see how exactly this works for or against me regarding laziness. Pisces Sun, Venus Taurus especially brings out collector-itus in me.
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        Wed, September 30, 2009 - 7:24 PM
        Like mentioned a bit before, I always associate Jupiter/Venus in the natal as someone who got lots of lovin'... from parents, from peers, from the universe. Like when they are little, they always have a sense that everything will be okay in the end and they are safe... so when they are older they come at the world with a lot of optimism and faith in love (well you know, in regards to this aspect alone). Also I associate it with people who like to eat especially if Taurus or Cancer are involved (actually Jupiter contacting the Moon would also indicate this I think.... I have Jupiter trine my sun in Cancer and sextile my moon... I'll bake a whole batch of cookies and then eat them all in one day. but they are healthy cookies! (Saturn in the 6th house) D:
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          Wed, September 30, 2009 - 7:28 PM

          I am going to Venus trine Jupiter in my next solar return

          I am also going to have sun trine moon in my next solar return. I have sun trine Moon natally. I am actually going to have lunar return on same day as my solar return. It's going to be a highly significant year period.
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          Wed, September 30, 2009 - 7:36 PM
          I'd rather have a Moon-Sun trine, since the will and emotions are more in balance, and the parents are more likely to have been in love when the person was born, giving them a better message about life and relationships. Not necessarily, but it is more likely. They are generally happier people.
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            Re: Venus trine Jupiter anyone???

            Wed, September 30, 2009 - 7:43 PM
            True. Jupiter works on a more mundane level than the sun/moon. It could be just one parent gives a lot of affection, but the other one is distant... but I think the quality of good faith through beauty/love and other venus stuff would still be there. Sun/Moon are definitely more personal.
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      Thu, October 1, 2009 - 11:56 AM

      according to my whole sign house chart (I am a recent convert to whole sign house system, thanks to Robert Hand)

      well....I have 12th house ruler Sun in 3rd trine 11th house ruler Moon in Pisces in 7th with 2'10 orb (1'24 orb in Right Ascension)

      I have 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter conjunct Imum Coeli in Sagittarius in 4th with 2'58 orb

      they might have something to do with some luck in my life



      I have the following midpoints that could also indicate some luck in my life:

      I have Venus conjunct Sun/Jupiter midpoint with 1 minutes of arc. That's because Sun,Venus,and Jupiter are in 22nd harmonic to each other.

      I have Jupiter conjunct Moon/Ascendant midpoint with 1 minute of arc, and that because of a wide Moon-Ascendant opposition is squared by my Jupiter

      I have Sun conjunct Jupiter/Pluto midpoint with 46 minutes of arc

      the aforementioned 4 midpoint pictures are relevant in Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology
      With my being influenced by Robert Hand's book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS, I focus on direct midpoint pictures as being important as regular aspects in the chart.

      Sun/Mercury midpoint conjunct Jupiter/Uranus midpoint with 3 minutes of arc.
      That's what uranian astrologers call a planetary picture.
      Kepler program creator,David Cochrane calls it an isoceles trapezoid with its connection to Arabic Parts
      Magi Society calls it a magi quad.


      I prefer a more geometrical approach to Astrology,and so I use midpoint pictures and use narrower orbs for regular aspects.
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        Sat, October 3, 2009 - 8:33 AM
        I believe Sun trine Moon must be one of the luckiest aspects of them all, and absolutely agree with the "maybe one parent gave all the love while the other one was distant" comment as well...

        Sun trine Moon speaks of wholeness, and i think its waaay better than both of them conjunct, theres just an innate sence of balance or equilibrium (?) around this people you usually dont find nowadays. Venus/Jup trine may be a bit incongruent in this aspect... sure, there was LOTS of love... but not necessarily in a balanced way, still, this is only a guessing...

        conscious action is definitely needed to make this aspect work. sitting waiting for things to happen is the worst way to waste it, its been my experience (if i were actually able to SPECIFICALLY pinpoint THIS aspect from the rest of my chart) that Venus-Jup trine is the one, last touch of good luck one needs to make things work out and to have it your way, all the time. no matter just how bad things are, if you keep being patient, hard working and doing good, eeeeeeeverything will come out to ultimately benefit YOU. and thats cool.

        another thing i consider really important about this aspect is the GIVING. i think one should keep giving the whole time in order to keep the flow of good things coming. ive volunteered in community projects since i was 15 (now im 20) and cant state just how above the average lucky i am. sure! i havent won the lottery (yet), but its those silly little things that are just TOO perfect to be "coincidences" or those things that could seem insignificant at the moment but really mean a steppingstone towards your goals and development that have made me think, consider, and know just how blessed i could be
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          Sat, October 3, 2009 - 8:57 AM

          I think that it really depends on what else is aspecting that aspect

          using whole sign house system (I have permanently switched to it):
          I have 12th house ruler Sun in Scorpio in 3rd trine 11th house ruler Moon in Pisces in 7th with 2'10 orb

          but the opposition of my retrograde 5th/6th house ruler Saturn in Gemini 10th and 4th/7th house rulerJupiter-Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius in 4th squares the Moon - a t-square

          My Saturn quincunx my Sun and square my Moon for what Magi Society calls a mystic triangle which is a 12th harmonic triangle.


          so the Sun trine Moon is modified with great,significant challenges. Therefore, the innate sense of balance and equilibrium isn't necessarily the case with me. The same with the whole easy and harmony thing. If anything, I can have great unrest,instability,stress, and that's how I experienced my mother too.


          I don't like reading cookbooks about certain aspects because they don't take other aspects into account.

          as for the relationship of my parents.
          Well, my parents did love each other.
          interestingly, they both had Moon in watersign. My mother has Moon in Scorpio,and my father had Moon in Pisces like my maternal grandfather and me.
          I grew up only knowing one parent,and that was my mother. My father left when I was a year old,and he disappeared without a trace.
          My stepfather replaced my father as my father figure,and he's the only one that I ever knew. There was no real love between my him and my mother. It was a marriage of convenience, and my stepfather was 25 years older than my mother. He was abusive to both my mother and me. She was married to him for 12 years, and she ended up breaking up with him when I was 18 years old.
          Stuff like that makes me wary about getting married to the wrong person, but I do want to be married and have children in the future.

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