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I have stellinum in virgo. The Sun, moon,mercury, and mars are all in Virgo in the sixth house. The stellinum make me very analytical and my mind is very shape. My eyes see so much and I am serious about work or whatever I am doing. I love it. Peace to all
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Re: Stellinum in Virgo
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 2:02 PMWow, a Virgo's Virgo indeed. What house or houses is that stellium in? I'd love to see the chart!
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 5:38 PMHey I know how it is because I also have a Virgo stellium too (Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus are in virgo too) but my Mars isn't in Virgo, It's in Gemini. & all my Virgo planets are in the 11th house.. -
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 7:48 PMI'm curious how you strong Virgos handle relationships? It must be hard to be over-critical and perfectionistic. Do you find women who live up to your high expectations? I have a little Virgo in me and I have known a lot of strong Virgos, and they can be too analytical and lack their intuitive side. You can be very devoted and loyal, but I think you guys have trouble in listening to the inner voice. My best friend is 7th house Virgo stellium and she knit-picks every little thing her husband does, even though she does love him. I'd go nuts with such a partner! I constantly have to reassure her also, because I am basically telling her what her inner voice is trying to tell her. My sister was married to a strong Virgo also and he was the type who was over-weight yet told my sister that she needed to lose weight... he was verbally abusive and insecure. They also seem to have fixations about certain body parts. For my sister's ex it was feet (I hate feet, ew).
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 8:05 PMHere's one quote I think fits:
"It is often claimed that Virgo's cool ardour is the result of such impossibly high romantic ideals that few are able to rouse the sign to heights of passion... but given the right conditions Virgo can be as passionate and romantic as any other sign of the zodiac. The problem is that Virgo is decidedly uncomfortable in love affairs that challenge the practicality of their everyday life and responsibilities. "
I am not usually attracted to Virgo for this reason (I need passion!)... though I have had two that were secret admirers in the work place that appeared cool, yet became stalkery.
I'm sure other factors would go into this (ASC, etc.), but I do know that my best friend (Virgo stellium, Cap Sun, Aqu Venus - all cool) acts very distant to her husband and, even strong Cancer that he is, I don't know how he gets her to be less frigid on the outside (even though passion exists on the inside)... -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 4:08 AMI'm curious how you strong Virgos handle relationships? It must be hard to be over-critical and perfectionistic. Do you find women who live up to your high expectations? I have a little Virgo in me and I have known a lot of strong Virgos, and they can be too analytical and lack their intuitive side. You can be very devoted and loyal, but I think you guys have trouble in listening to the inner voice. My best friend is 7th house Virgo stellium and she knit-picks every little thing her husband does, even though she does love him. I'd go nuts with such a partner! I constantly have to reassure her also, because I am basically telling her what her inner voice is trying to tell her. My sister was married to a strong Virgo also and he was the type who was over-weight yet told my sister that she needed to lose weight... he was verbally abusive and insecure. They also seem to have fixations about certain body parts. For my sister's ex it was feet (I hate feet, ew).
Anyway, I hope you all aren't like that. I'd be curious to know where your Venus is...
As a Virgo, I have never had a real "relationship". Not because I do not want one, but because I do have extremely high expectations and won't let myself accept anything that isn't close to perfect. Relationships will never be perfect.. and I accept that, but I still choose to wait... Settling for anything less would make me feel like just an average person... Even though I am that (Just an average person like everyone else) Virgo's need more than the average to really feel good about themselves! this is why Virgo's can come across as really bitchy... -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 4:09 AMoops i didnt mean to copy+paste what you said *sorry Teresa*
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 3:55 PM"As a Virgo, I have never had a real "relationship". Not because I do not want one, but because I do have extremely high expectations and won't let myself accept anything that isn't close to perfect."
I get that, but does "close to perfect" exist? I don't think that it does, and you guys expect more in your partner than you do in yourselves, which I think is especially hard for your partners... Most people don't want to be in a relationship in which the partner criticizes them, especially when the Virgo partner isn't perfect themselves. Love should be more unconditional than that.
I just think that you should learn to be more open-minded and give people a chance. They might surprise you. I am not an expert on romantic relationships, but the relationships I have had have been long-term and I usually love people for their faults as much as I do for the things that I admire about them. Imperfections are what make people unique. I am actually the opposite of critical because I idealize people I care about and they can do no wrong, so the concept of criticizing loved ones is always foreign to me (unless out of self-defense). I do not compute. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:10 AMI agree that "close to perfect" might not exist either, but it should. I do not expect more in a partner than I do myself. Everyone is different, and I can see where your coming from and you maybe have had bad experiences? but don't hate a Virgo for being a perfectionist, relationships are not a Virgo's best sport.. they have a lot more to offer than just a relationship with one person, Virgo is like Pisces in that sence. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:19 AMYes. They are. Virgo is like the Pisces translated into mutable earth from mutable water. It is a mud for Pisces, but fitting, only because the need came about in the first place, or vice versa. Virgo, as mutable earth, is the logical choice for a Pisces needing earth. They are clearly axis-related opposites, so there you go. Makes perfect sense for one to draw on the other.
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:23 AM"I agree that "close to perfect" might not exist either, but it should"
You can't have a 'perfect' relationship, unless both parts are perfect too. In other words, unless you yourself are perfect, you can't have a relationship that is perfect. If any part of a 'system' is imperfect, the system itself cannot be considered perfect.
Instead of searching for perfection, perhaps cultivate empathy and compassion for other people's imperfection. Then, maybe you could do the same for your own. Virgo can be terribly self-critical. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:28 AM"Instead of searching for perfection, perhaps cultivate empathy and compassion for other people's imperfection. Then, maybe you could do the same for your own. Virgo can be terribly self-critical."
For sure
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:30 AMI think what I am trying to say, Paul, is that I do understand the perspective. You can imagine it, so it could be real. And reality is not beyond imagination, just slow to come around. I actually find Virgo/Pisces very compatible. They both have an obsessive streak they each relate to. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:32 AM"I actually find Virgo/Pisces very compatible. They both have an obsessive streak they each relate to."
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:35 AMThanks. I learned that rather thoroughly. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:39 AMsometimes virgo finds it hard to accept imperfection. Unfortunately the reality is that nothing is perfect all the time, in fact nothing is perfect most of the time. It's natural for Virgo to want to accept nothing less than perfection, but perhaps imperfection is the 'true' perfectino. You could miss out on a lot of happiness and many opportunities to learn more about yourself if you raise your bar too high. Could be that when you're older and look back on your life, you realise that there is no perfection, and that true perfection is an ideal that is unique to each person. You don't want to then think, I'm alone now because I turned away all those good people simply because I didn't think they were good enough. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:00 AMNo, no, it can't be. Virgo knows there is perfection because Virgo can and has seen it. No, no. And it doesn't have to be stupid, like your examples. What a dweeb. No, but, you can totally have an image. My God, though when someone surpasses that. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:03 AM"And it doesn't have to be stupid, like your examples. What a dweeb. "
gee thanks
"Virgo knows there is perfection because Virgo can and has seen it"
Perfection is subjective. Sometimes there is the inclination to see another as being the thing that is perfect, particular with asc-desc axis. A sense of perfection or completion must come from the inside, whenever it is found on the outside there is the chance that it could be taken away and is therefore illusory. Every sign could do with a touch of the opposite sign. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:24 AMOf course our concepts of perfection are subjective. That virtually goes without saying. My perfection I suspect is very different from yours. So what? But the thing is that you can't make it all up. Something autonomous must be there ~ outside~ to make it work. Unless you think we actually "perfect ourselves" independently. I don't say that is not possible, but it really is so much harder, don't you think? -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:26 AMI don't believe in perfection. Not in our lives at least. I don't think anyone is or can be 'perfect' whilst still being alive. I therefore don't believe in any 'perfect' relationships. I'm happy to use the term loosely to describe relationships where each person 'gets something' from the relationship and both sides are happy, but its still a misnomer.
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:37 AMPerhaps. But when you find that even what you found was wrong is right, and somehow if a point was missed, you missed it, who is to say? Maybe it is just that I have known that I was not perfect enough for what was perfect at the time. It might be there, but you are just not perfect enough to see it. I tell you that is really hard, but you have no choice but to say "Aye, me," and move on, knowing what you lost along the way was because you were somehow missing the moments. I am not a person who would say I had no regrets. Just not one who will be dominated by them. I so know there is always tomorrow.
And, okay, the term perfection is extreme, but you can really get damn close sometimes. Close enough anyway.
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 2:16 AMOMG. I am so totally ready to be slain. Imagining the warmth of my own blood feels delicious. Let me tell you that filtering life through 12H Leo Pluto conjunct Sun is amazing. Apart from the sensation of being sent into space, being completely consumed is like nothing else. Nothing is any longer any problem. You get to resolve as you dissolve. I won't be anything else if you gave me a choice. I love the "self-destruction." It totally turns me on. Because just after it is a brand new you. Like a snake sheds its skin, and feels the air in a new way. You even breathe differently.
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:34 AMAmiable
my point was really addressed to joey's 'search' for perfection. I completely understand and agree with your point regarding virgo-pisces. I think that each side of an axis will be attracted to one another, but that they also hold the traits that they repel each other with. Virgo may hate chaos, disorder, impractical thinking etc which Pisces can demonstrate, whilst also loving the dreaminess and the 'accepting'ness that Pisces can also show. Its the same with all the signs. Each polar opposite contains the qualities we both love and hate. We often project our own qualities described by the opposite sign onto other people - particularly with the asc-desc axis. Sometimes we 'give away' those traits to others and then fall in love/hate the other person who has those traits. We're meeting ourselves through others. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:53 AMOf course. We always meet ourselves through any others. Everyone is a mirror, but sometimes we forget that they have mirrors in us, too.
The thing about the Pisces/Virgo axis here that I think you might be missing is that they so need each other and know it deep down. Pisces so wants sense to it all, and will go for having it organized to see that in itself. And Virgo so wants it to be about more than that ~ it wants the deeper meaning that Pisces can give it. They can be so symbiotic. They can be complementary opposites, and I am pretty sure love for each other is easy for them. But I am presently delusional, however, so judge objectively for yourselves about that. Yes, sir. I wuldn't trust me right now on matters of love. Never trust anyone in love to give you a reasonable account of anything pertaining to it. Especially when they are just in love in the mind. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:54 AM"The thing about the Pisces/Virgo axis here that I think you might be missing is that they so need each other and know it deep down."
Oh I was just keeping it 'generic' rather than limiting it to pisces-virgo. I see pisces as being the 'wider picture' and virgo as being the 'tunnel visioned focus'.
"Never trust anyone in love to give you a reasonable account of anything pertaining to it. Especially when they are just in love in the mind."
ha ha isn't that the truth of it! Love makes fools of us all.
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:52 AMTeresa
"Do you find women who live up to your high expectations? I have a little Virgo in me and I have known a lot of strong Virgos, and they can be too analytical and lack their intuitive side. You can be very devoted and loyal, but I think you guys have trouble in listening to the inner voice."
You couldn't make this up, but I know a woman who has Virgo Sun and Rising (sun in the 1st), I think the Moon is in aquarius or libra can't remember now. Anyways she was dating this guy for a few months and openly told me that although she thought he was a great guy and was totally attracted to him she was going to stop seeing him. I asked her why and her answer was that whilst they were out with one another she noticed that he had nails that were 'bitten down' and although he didn't bite his nails when she was with him, it was 'obvious' that he bit his nails and she just couldn't live with someone like that. Then she was off and listing all the little things that weren't perfect about him. She mentioned how she didn't like that he sent her texts that didn't make sense as she hates 'text speak'. She said that although he was lovely and she could see herself falling in love with him, ultimately she knew that she couldn't live with him/marry him because he had too many bad habits. She ended it. I don't know what his sign was but I did suggest to her that she was being overly critical and perhaps she should just go with her gut feelings about him (which she said were positive) and see what happens. Nope. Interestingly she bites her own nails but uses false nails to make them look longer! -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 2:52 PMMaidens don´t like to be bundled together with fish-fingers, virgoans find that offensive. This supposed "magnetism" existing between opposites...well, it ain´t there! Piscean confusion has never left an imprint in my mind. The worst of all signs, the leftovers from the zodiac foundry. Made for tacky musical entertainment in pubs & telly. A "look at me, I´m overly emotional & need your applause!"-sign. Nothing wrong with that. But the average Virgo will change channel quickly...
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 10:42 PMPaul - that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. And it's a shame because she probably ruined a good relationship, which don't usually come around very often. My strong Virgo best friend freaks out about little things that her husband does too. Like pornography. Seriously, what man doesn't look at pornos every once and a while? A frigid choir boy, or something? Shoot, even I have been caught watching some gay man porn online. It doesn't mean anything! He's not going out and meeting prostitutes. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:32 PMI also have a Virgo Stellium
Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn and Juno......in the
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