Sex in the 6th and 12th houses

It seem to me that Merc in the 6th could be pretty significant, and of course there are probably aspects and dispositors which apply. Looking at your chart, I see that it is really conjunct the 7th House cusp and the Sun. This throws a decidely different twist on your "Mercury in the 6th House".

I never talked about planets in the 6th being especially important.
I was saying we should LOOK to the 6th/12th House axis for ways to incorporate empathy and attention to detail so we can better serve our partners, especially after we have "run the first course" with them.

Meows, your 6th House is ruled by Capricorn/Saturn...and your Saturn is in the 5th House...which probably means that you take responsability for details in courtship and romantic gestures. Saturn is also loosely conjunct your Moon, which probably warms up and sensitizes Saturn's otherwise cool aloofness. Also, looking at your 12th House on the other side of the axis, your 12th House is ruled by the Moon and the Moon is posited right there next to your Saturn in the 5th.

So empathy and detail come right together in your 5th House.
It turns out that you were the PERFECT example after all!
However, you like anybody else probably has issues of satisfying and being satisfied, serving and being served...and again, I will say that now with even MORE confidence: The 6th/12th House axis is where we should look to resolve those issues.

The car analogy was fun and it seems a bit of a guy way of thinking. For me my comfort and my activated 6th always makes me seek comfort levels that I enjoy and well w/always wanting to change that change everything because it is not perfect (?)for me is not comfort.

Think of it like a house. You buy a house in a neighborhood and you find your bills are very uncomfortable the first year. So you don't do much decorating. The second year you start to decorate more and develope relationships w/people who will service you. During this time you meet many of your neighbors and figure out who you like and want to spend time with...then someone in the neighborhood lets their yard look horrible and you start thinking this was not the neighborhood you thought it might be. What do you do? Well for me the discomfort of having to move is very serious business and so I like to keep a comfort level around my own dwelling and in keeping my neighborhood tidy. So what happens if you have to approach the neighbor that won't keep the neighborhood up? A strong 12 house placement can help in this instance. You will find some way to communicate to the neighbor. In fact I have seen some very funny incidents along these lines. 6th house my dwelling...respect it. 12 th house and maybe some progress.

LR

Incidentally, some food for thought;

I once read that of all the opposition relationships in the zodiac, Leo/Aquarius is the most likely to have a successful, lasting marriage.

<<Perhaps wih Leo and the Sun as the rulers of your 12th House, you empathize with the human ego and the need for recognition and self-esteem. I don't doubt that your compliments are quite honest for the most part...but it seems like there could be a deeper side to be recognized. Maybe Pisces needs to have more say-so on "depth" in the realm of your Leo 12th House, and this is the whole purpose behind the mechanism your Pisces Sun as dispositor...to DEEPEN the way you empathize with people by reaching past the ego and into the soul.>>

Perhaps one should consider how closely the ego and soul are linked. Regardless, I think I do think what occurs with me is a combination of both. I don't think these two are separated due to the combination of Leo and 12th house; giving the Piscean emphasis on my chart it has a lot to do with the soul. I think the soul has an esteem that needs to thrive at a certain level as well and radiates from encouragement and gets down from discouragements it faces in life.

Like I said, these things are very individual and only me and others that know me well can provide a testament to what I'm talking about. But I'm sure you've been through something uplifting that picked up your soul as well as your ego. Perhaps it was a seminar, movie, nice words from your gf or family member or something. I think there is this negative idea about the ego that permeates some sectors, as if it is a bad thing. It can be bad but just as much as one's soul. I don't think ego lacks depth and that the ones soul is necessarily deep.

However, I'm not saying I can't do MORE reaching out into others' souls/egos. Just that the reaching into or out to someone's ego isn't necessarily as shallow as you may have put it, or may think, or I'm understanding you to think.


<<Your Pisces house is the 8th from your 12th which is your 7th, right? The 7th House is where you approach people on a one-on-one basis...and maybe this is saying that by deepening your approach to one-on-one situations, you will transform (an 8th House concept) the Leo energy which rules your 12th House.>>

Continuing with what I wrote above, I don't think anything needs to be "transformed". There's really nothing to transcend, except for the idea that ego is necessarily bad and the soul so deep and that they can't work together, be interrelated, or meshed into a creation of a greater form-and person. In my opinion it takes two and when one is uplifted the other can be as well.

My chart IS very one on one focused. I have Moon in Libra and 2nd house. My 7th house is tied with my 6th with most major bodies including the sun, CERES, Mecury, and Part of Fortune. I am a Virgo rising. I have a Cancer 11th house and am inclined to having close friendships with a few people. If anything I need to stop being so one on one with myself and others. It could be other things but I'm sure my chart explains most of why I am SO one on one.


<<As far as not getting you, I just didn't relate to the words "kings", "queens", "feel awesome", and "add to our esteem".>>

Well those are my words :-). Does that sound egotistical? If so, why (is it a problem with your interpretation, or related to your chart, personality and ego, or understanding of ego vs. soul, or maybe even feelings about Leo)? Once again, I can't really help if others feel insecure about or uspet from this statement. I'm not saying I fix broken people, if there were such a thing, or that I'm sooooo amazing because of what I do. I can try but can't really control whether or not these words bring out some ego problems in others or a feeling that I am being pompous, or the giggles.

I know you have a lot of experience with Leos and like you explain in your post you can be a little dogmatic or egotistical. However, Leo rules my 12th house. Plus my sun IS in pisces and it just illuminates all that falls under that house including Leo and my understanding of how Leo affects it. That's a far different dynamic than having Sun in Leo or even Neptune in Leo. It's really one to look in to, I have and I've learned a lot.

Here's something that I feel is related and could be drawn upon.


"When a planet rises in the east it can now be seen -- and thus it enters the twelfth house. Just so, our first instances of self-expression that we offer into the world are vulnerable and easily defeated, but the effect of their success or failure on our personality is enormous. Pulling some of our energy back into our self to keep it from being defeated or overwhelmed has two results. If we are aware of what we are doing, it becomes our hidden secret. If this process is unconscious, it becomes a rejected aspect of the self. These secrets or repressed aspects of the self form the classical interpretation of the twelfth house.

But what if the immature energy we put into the world isn’t defeated early on? Then it can become a source of strength and a dominant aspect of our personality, and even signify our career. The twelfth house is thus where we build inner strength to overcome limitations, sorrows and fears, and where the individual adapts to the collective. It signifies self-undoing: where we stand in our own way, where we are not free to let ourselves become and be who we essentially already are. It also represents that which is hidden, karma, limitation, confinement, prison, betrayal, sacrifice, hospitals and institutions, nuns and priests, secrets and secret enemies (who may just be rejected aspects of ourselves), initiation, ultimate understanding, and charity given or received."

You acknowledged that people seem to take it negatively sometimes, and you are beginning to feel a need to conform. The axis of Leo/Aquarius has this issue of conforming vs. non-conforming, you know.

Yep I know....hehe. I acknowledge that a few individuals may have given off vibes of such. I may have been overly sensitive to that but I do feel those vibes were there. But that is only on HERE, via internet, not really 12th house realm of feelings. Out in the physical world, no, I've never had any problems. However, I have to say I am mainly this way with close ones. Perhaps its because of my 6th house Aquarius...this axis why I had such a switch on here however. I don't usually do so publically with people I hardly know, but I find that when I do certain things, give compliments, (you have a nice sweater, etc.), it seems to touch people's souls as well as their ego much more than it should (?). That's where this whole thing comes into play.