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Hello y'all,
It boils down to personal preferences amongst astrologers, but there has been a debate as to whether or not the 8th relates to sex... I take the 5th to represent recreational sex. [BTW, I'm not sure WTF sex is doing on my mind today (my 5th house is a little crazy right now)]
I was reading about Jupiter in connecttion with great lovers (by Kim Farnell):
"A sample of forty charts of people - mainly men -who were renowned to be great lovers kept me happy for a few days while I studied them to see if there were any common factors. One third had a Jupiter ruled 5th cusp, a third of the remainder had Jupiter making a major aspect to the 5th cusp. The majority of the remainder had Jupiter close to an angle or tenanting the 5th house. One problem of course, is that those renowned for their sex lives are so because of the sheer number of lovers they've had - and this says nothing about quality. But if we assume that word would get around if their reputation was groundless, then this seems as good a starting point as any.
Obviously, this is a small sample, but the Jupiter theme throughout seemed too strong to ignore. Three quarters of the charts had at least one angular planet, half had two or more and a quarter had three or more. The tenth and seventh houses were the most heavily tenanted and the sixth the least. Looking at the aspects there was a high number of Mars/Venus/Saturn contacts - in fact 40% of the charts had both Mars/Saturn and Venus/Saturn closely aspected. Only three charts contained no aspects between the three planets.
So based on the above it seems that the indicators for sexual prowess in a chart are an emphasis on the 5th house combined with Jupiter, and contacts between Mars/Venus/Saturn. According to Barbara Watters, Jupiter dominated charts (in particular those with Mars opposition Jupiter) show people who take action against the accepted moral code or traditional beliefs. Those whose charts were examined were recorded because of their sex lives being exceptional in the way that they challenged the moral code of their time."
Nicholas De Vore states that a combust Venus shows nymphomania in a woman's chart... Anyone?
She also talks briefly about Casanova's chart in another article. Here's the link, if you're interested: www.skyscript.co.uk/casanova.html
Those of you experienced in love-making - how do you rate yourself and/or previous lovers, based on your/their astrological chart? Do the good lovers seem to have strong Jupiter placements, as described above?
It boils down to personal preferences amongst astrologers, but there has been a debate as to whether or not the 8th relates to sex... I take the 5th to represent recreational sex. [BTW, I'm not sure WTF sex is doing on my mind today (my 5th house is a little crazy right now)]
I was reading about Jupiter in connecttion with great lovers (by Kim Farnell):
"A sample of forty charts of people - mainly men -who were renowned to be great lovers kept me happy for a few days while I studied them to see if there were any common factors. One third had a Jupiter ruled 5th cusp, a third of the remainder had Jupiter making a major aspect to the 5th cusp. The majority of the remainder had Jupiter close to an angle or tenanting the 5th house. One problem of course, is that those renowned for their sex lives are so because of the sheer number of lovers they've had - and this says nothing about quality. But if we assume that word would get around if their reputation was groundless, then this seems as good a starting point as any.
Obviously, this is a small sample, but the Jupiter theme throughout seemed too strong to ignore. Three quarters of the charts had at least one angular planet, half had two or more and a quarter had three or more. The tenth and seventh houses were the most heavily tenanted and the sixth the least. Looking at the aspects there was a high number of Mars/Venus/Saturn contacts - in fact 40% of the charts had both Mars/Saturn and Venus/Saturn closely aspected. Only three charts contained no aspects between the three planets.
So based on the above it seems that the indicators for sexual prowess in a chart are an emphasis on the 5th house combined with Jupiter, and contacts between Mars/Venus/Saturn. According to Barbara Watters, Jupiter dominated charts (in particular those with Mars opposition Jupiter) show people who take action against the accepted moral code or traditional beliefs. Those whose charts were examined were recorded because of their sex lives being exceptional in the way that they challenged the moral code of their time."
Nicholas De Vore states that a combust Venus shows nymphomania in a woman's chart... Anyone?
She also talks briefly about Casanova's chart in another article. Here's the link, if you're interested: www.skyscript.co.uk/casanova.html
Those of you experienced in love-making - how do you rate yourself and/or previous lovers, based on your/their astrological chart? Do the good lovers seem to have strong Jupiter placements, as described above?
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 12:30 AMWhew! I find my 8th house Jupiter in a nice trine to my 5th house cusp, but my Venus and Mars make only minor aspects to Saturn. You better bet this topic made this Scorpio Yoda run to look at his chart, lol.
My ex's chart has Jupiter square her 5th house cusp, Venus 30 deg from Saturn, and Mars making no aspect with Saturn. She was the amoebic type of lover, just sort of went dead and made me do all the work. I brought her to orgasms very frequently, but it seems liked she was getting waited on the whole time. She never really dug her nails into my back or anything, and although I went down on her quite often, I usually had to ask for fellatio.
When we were starting off she was more willing to impress me with her various skills, but it seemed like once she knew she had me in the bag she just became, like I said, amoebic. By the time the relationship ended, she would only respond to sexual advances on Saturday mornings, and her routine was just to let me do the work. Sex with her started to feel like a chore after a while, definitely not the passionate merging of bodies and minds I'm after.
To her credit, I'm an 8th house-heavy Scoprio sun, and sex is part of the Scorpio Holy Trinity: Sex, Religion, Death. She's a Capricorn sun, a real social climber, and in retrospect I was probably more of a status symbol for her. She seemed less concerned with sex and more concerned with nice restaurants and other material benefits. When her younger cousin started dating some ivy-league lawyer, she had to keep pace, and so she traded me in for someone who gave her more material bragging rights. Talk about a blessing in disguise!
She's the only one I still have the chart for, although I wish I had the charts of previous lovers right now, lol. Damn, just checked and I do not have charts for a few good memorable ladies... Oh well... -
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 12:55 AMLOL My profile views went up a whole lot with this, even before the "Enlightenment" chart post. I'm not one of THOSE. Hey, my Venus isn't combust.
Wow, your ex was something else. I feel sorry for the ivy-leaguer, or whoever else is on her agenda now! Did she have any 5th house planets and what was the 5th ruler? It's interesting that Mercury rules your 5th and is conjunct all of those 8th house planets. I guess you have a strong mind-body connection in sex?
My ex was not a great lover in any sense of the word either. He didn't even know how to kiss properly, let alone anything else. He was a Leo stellium, and boasted about his numerous experiences (he was actually my first and only, so I am no expert, merely curious!). He has a weak Jupiter in Aries in the 3rd, no aspect to the 5th. Venus rules his 5th, but is retro and weak in Virgo in the 8th. No Venus-Mars aspect, though he does have Mars-Saturn, Jupiter-Saturn aspects.
Like your ex, my Jupiter squares my 5th, but I don't think my chart screams a bad lay! I have Mars ruling my 5th (Scorpio ruled), and Mars is my strongest planet, in aspect to Jupiter and Saturn. Plus, Uranus in Scorpio and Moon in Sag in the 5th? C'mon... how could that be boring! I just need a worthy outlet... -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:03 AMMy fifth house, like my love life, is completely empty.
"I just need a worthy outlet... "
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:43 AM"My fifth house, like my love life, is completely empty."
I don't believe that!
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:31 AMMy ex's fifth house cusp is early Aires, 150 deg from her Scorpio Mars conjunct Pluto on her 12th house cusp. No 5th house planets. Her 12th house Saturn is at 14 deg Scorpio, too close to my 11 deg scorp sun. The selfish side of Saturn in Scorpio was something i felt with her in the bedroom.
Yes, I have a strong mind-body connection when it comes to sex. I don't want to get too whimsical about it, but I'll just say I like to know a person pretty well before I feel ready to get sexual with them.
"He didn't even know how to kiss properly, let alone anything else."
Poor guy, but LOL nevertheless!
Your Jupiter/Uranus aspects make me think you would NOT have the amoebic boring thing going on. Uranus probably keeps things interesting. My ex had good moves, but they were a means to an end I think, and once the ends were met the means were disposed of. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:58 AM"Your Jupiter/Uranus aspects make me think you would NOT have the amoebic boring thing going on."
Thanks, dear. I try to avoid being parasitic, in all aspects of life...
BTW, Aries is supposedly a barren sign for women in all 5th house matters. That is a selfish sign too.
"Poor guy, but LOL nevertheless!"
Well, I certainly always encouraged and didn't put down or anything. I was even nice when I broke it off and tried to be friends. Until he flaked on the symphony, and my Sag Moon ways wouldn't answer his phone calls... I wasn't really physically attracted to him to begin with. The only man I've really WANTED was one that I almost had but didn't. His Jupiter is conjunct Mars and the 5th house angle, and his 5th has Mars, Saturn and Pluto... no surprise, it was in his eyes.
The Enlightenment post gotten taken away! What's up with that? I'm sorry I wasn't following the rules. It's late... -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:05 AM"The Enlightenment post gotten taken away! What's up with that? I'm sorry I wasn't following the rules. It's late... "
yeah I noticed that. I replied to your post and then Mike replied with a message saying to keep the discussions in PM so as not to detract from the data collection.
I replied that I thought the posts was just an 'enlightenment game' and not an exercise in data mining and now the thread is gone. Ooops, my Mercury-Uranus opposition sometimes ruffles feathers. -
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:08 AM"Ooops, my Mercury-Uranus opposition sometimes ruffles feathers."
The Sun-Uranus opp does that too! Oh, well... I liked that post, though. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:27 AMi did not receive any bad comments yet ;)
mars conjunct saturn in scorpio
venus square mars/saturn...(trine uranus)
jupiter in the 8th, trine to mercury in the 5th
when jupiter was on my midheaven...best times ever, abundant would be an under statement i think
could have been because of uranus trine my mars also....
i have this way of opening people up i guess
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:40 PMI'm still not getting connecting Jupiter to sex, when, like you said, sex is the fifth and eighth houses, and usually the realm of Mars and Venus? *confused* -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:50 PM"I'm still not getting connecting Jupiter to sex, when, like you said, sex is the fifth and eighth houses, and usually the realm of Mars and Venus? *confused*"
Jupiter is known for being larger than life, pushing the bounderies, and exploring, so I am not surprised it was connected in the study with sexual prowess (this was especially true in men in this particular study). All of the planets can relate to sex, not just Mars and Venus. I would think other factors would play into it also though, such as your 5th ruler, the planets that reside there, and how they interact with other planets. One of the people I mentioned I thought would be good at sex had a Virgo-ruled 5th house, so I would imagine he probably put a lot of effort into love-making, and tried ot made it perfect (it was a sort of perfectionist) - but maybe he was over-critical of his partners and himself also. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:52 PMJupiter is also important in determining one's enthusiasm. If you don't have much enthusiasm for something, you aren't going to put much effort into it.
I think that there is likely to be different styles of love-making in charts, which is what I find is most interesting. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 3:22 PMAnother thing to think about in the 5th house ruler and planets that reside there is how they look at and enjoy sex (or don't, I guess).
The ruler of the 5th often indicates the ability of the person to enjoy sex. A ruling planet with dignity (rulership or exaltation) will do so within social bounds. The person’s pleasures are socially acceptable, they have a traditional manner and their attitude conforms to social expectations. Should the ruler have no dignity or, is in fall or detriment, or retrograde then, the fifth house is experienced in a less socially acceptable manner or, in ways which are not conventional.
The same thing might be said about various planets that reside there or aspect 5th house planets - Uranus would be very unconventional (bondage, threesomes, etc.), Neptune may include fantasy type games, Mercury might be well thought-out and exicuted, Pluto might surpass the physical realm and maybe have a molding of the two bodies, etc. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 3:38 PM"Another thing to think about in the 5th house ruler and planets that reside there is how they look at and enjoy sex (or don't, I guess).
The ruler of the 5th often indicates the ability of the person to enjoy sex. A ruling planet with dignity (rulership or exaltation) will do so within social bounds. The person’s pleasures are socially acceptable, they have a traditional manner and their attitude conforms to social expectations. Should the ruler have no dignity or, is in fall or detriment, or retrograde then, the fifth house is experienced in a less socially acceptable manner or, in ways which are not conventional.
The same thing might be said about various planets that reside there or aspect 5th house planets - Uranus would be very unconventional (bondage, threesomes, etc.), Neptune may include fantasy type games, Mercury might be well thought-out and exicuted, Pluto might surpass the physical realm and maybe have a molding of the two bodies, etc."
Well then - my fifth is empty, and the ruler is pretty much combust, and my Jupiter is saddled by Saturn....guess I'm shit outta luck and a lousy lay. :P -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:03 PM"Well then - my fifth is empty, and the ruler is pretty much combust, and my Jupiter is saddled by Saturn....guess I'm shit outta luck and a lousy lay. :P"
Your 5th house sign ruler is Gemini, like Yoda's. So sex is also a mental sport, not just a physical one. You probably have to be stimulated intellectually, in addition to physically, to be turned on completely. Gemini is very versatile, and your 5th house ruler is also aspecting Uranus, so you don't seem like someone who just lays there either. The combustion to the Sun in a fire sign like Leo would add heat to a cold and dry Mercury. More than any other planet, Mercury takes on the attributes of the planets that it touches. Leo needs to be adored and complimented in the bedroom, though, like all of the fire signs, they can be selfish. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:22 PM"Your 5th house sign ruler is Gemini, like Yoda's. So sex is also a mental sport, not just a physical one. You probably have to be stimulated intellectually, in addition to physically, to be turned on completely. Gemini is very versatile, and your 5th house ruler is also aspecting Uranus, so you don't seem like someone who just lays there either. The combustion to the Sun in a fire sign like Leo would add heat to a cold and dry Mercury. More than any other planet, Mercury takes on the attributes of the planets that it touches. Leo needs to be adored and complimented in the bedroom, though, like all of the fire signs, they can be selfish."
...In all honesty, I was joking when I said all that - really I think sexual prowess is something that's kind of up in the air and you can't see whether someone is good or not in their natal chart. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:43 PM"...In all honesty, I was joking when I said all that - really I think sexual prowess is something that's kind of up in the air and you can't see whether someone is good or not in their natal chart."
Maybe, maybe not. If we can find creative factors, career interests, etc., I don't see why we can't find things relating to being good at sex. It's not like the ancients were open about this sort of thing. They might have picked on a woman's chart and said that she's unfaithful, and brand her with a big "A", but that's pretty much the extent of it. -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 7:14 PM"Maybe, maybe not. If we can find creative factors, career interests, etc., I don't see why we can't find things relating to being good at sex. It's not like the ancients were open about this sort of thing. They might have picked on a woman's chart and said that she's unfaithful, and brand her with a big "A", but that's pretty much the extent of it."
I...don't know. Yeah, I do think other things can be seen in a chart, so maybe things of a sexual nature can be seen there too. Only thing is, I'm still not on board with all these new theories linking Jupiter to sex, I still say that's the domain of Mars, and, depending on what you believe, either the fifth or eighth houses. Personally I agree with Jeff Green and others who say it's the eighth - particularly because it rings true in my own life. I have Virgo on the eighth house cusp and I definitely won't screw just anybody - I'm still a virgin at 28 for that reason.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 3:29 PMIsn´t Jupiter guilty of giving folks moon-faces, so they kinda look jovial & odd? -
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 3:38 PM"Isn´t Jupiter guilty of giving folks moon-faces, so they kinda look jovial & odd?"
Well, Jupiter can enlargen THINGS... that was my first thought in regards to this study. LOL
Jupiter in the first house may give someone heightened Sag looks and characteristics, which might be jovial. It also makes the stomach more likely to protrude vs. stay flat. I wouldn't say it gives Moon faces? I have Jupiter in the first and I have your regular oval-shaped female face. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:13 PMI don't think planets in the 1st affect physical appearance at all(unless conjunct to the AC, of course). Jupiter gives an elongated face, actually, with big, almost "horse-like" teeth(particularly the two in the middle of the upper jaw), a big, broad smile, and a "roman nose".
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:20 PM"I don't think planets in the 1st affect physical appearance at all(unless conjunct to the AC, of course)."
I personally disagree. The first house in and of itself relates to how you look. The ASC is the cusp of the first house, and the strongest point of that house (therefore more pronounced), but the entire house relates to physical appearance (as well as other first house matters). -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:38 PMwell..if you say so. I wouldn't really know, since I have no planets in my 1st, except Lilith, in Placidus system, and South Node, in whole sign.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:30 PManyway, about this thread..I, personally, don't ever take this "statistical" approach to astrology too seriously...until they analyze the charts of at least 2 billion people, I'm not convinced of anything they claim...
however, according to the theory part, Jupiter does bring the need for "expansion", like you said, Teresa, so it might tend to make one more sexually "adventurous", when touching Mars, or Venus, or the Sun, for instance...but, again, it really all depends on each individual chart.
If I had to listen to this, I'd have to be a female version of Casanova, or something, because I have the strong Jupiter, the combust Venus, as well as a Venus-Saturn aspect.
BUT, no matter which house system you use, my 5th house is severely debilitated. In either Whole sign system-which I'm using more now-or Placidus, Capricorn rules my 5th, with my Saturn being dignified, in Capricorn, tightly conjunct Neptune and loosely conjunct Uranus, however, which brings emotional brooding and mental instability...
Furthermore, in the whole sign house system, my Saturn-Uranus-Neptune cluster IS in the 5th house, so Saturn fully manifests its draining influence upon the whole "fun for the sake of it" arena..which includes sex.
And as for the combust Venus, it's in Pisces, so no matter how strong "the urge" gets, without an emotional connection, there's no chance for action.
However, my 8th house is ruled by Mars, which is tightly conjunct Jupiter, in 0 degree Gemini, which would suggest a heavy interest in sex.
Apart from that, I also have Venus sextile Saturn, as well as Venus conjunct a "tree" of planetary pictures formed between Uranus and Moon, Mars, Jupiter..which again, would suggest an "adventurous" nature..but all of it is crap.
I mean, I get "the urge" quite often, but emotionalism ALWAYS overshadows it, so that keeps me from acting out on any of my pervy ideas. -
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Fri, November 6, 2009 - 2:29 PM"And as for the combust Venus, it's in Pisces, so no matter how strong "the urge" gets, without an emotional connection, there's no chance for action."
I'd also think the fact that Venus is in your 6th house would have a pretty strong impact on that... the house of perfectionism and of "the Virgin". I'd think that any less than what feels perfect wouldn't be enough for you. While Pisces certainly likes emotional depth, from what I've seen, it can also lean toward a pretty indiscriminate attitude.
As for me... I guess I always assumed it was all my Scorpio and Leo :-) Jupiter in the 5th, 3 planets in the 7th, Saturn septile Venus... a minor aspect, maybe that doesn't count.
But, really, I can be kind of prudish. Then again, I can be completely the opposite and sleep with pretty much anyone who lets me know that they want to be slept with. Actually, that's kind of my prudishness... people have to be fairly direct about what they want and make me feel like there aren't greater expectations (which doesn't negate greater possibilities), something my 7th house Saturn eschews... kind of likes to take things slow in the relationship department... of course, H7 Mars is ready to jump in blindfolded and the Moon definitely wants some sort of emotional connection.
As for prowess, I guess I don't know for sure about that. Stamina, for sure. I've never had a girl not want more... but that always seems more like the female emotional tie to sex than the sex itself... and typically makes me take a step back to evaluate the situation, which they then react to and the entire thing turns into a complete mess. I typically try to do girls the favor of maintaining my distance from the beginning... unless they're asking for it, of course :-)
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Thu, November 12, 2009 - 4:29 AMactually, exio,
I use the whole sign houses system, according to which Venus and Mercury fall in my 7th, together with my North Node..
But I DO have a Virgo Rising in the Capricorn Decanate! Up-Tight. Plus, if you read my Dwads thread, you'd also kno that my Venus is in the Virgo dwad, so that also explains the need for "innocent love" -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 4:47 AM"But I DO have a Virgo Rising in the Capricorn Decanate! "
Mantis
The pic I'm looking at for your natal chart has you as 20d 04m Virgo Rising.
If that's the case, then you are four minutes into being a Taurus Decanate, not Capricorn. -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 4:57 AMyeah, that's because I was in denial about it.lol
my birth hour, according to the hospital certificate is 18:20, but 18:21 makes me a taurus decanate, so I changed it, thinking it was a one minute mistake, because the cap decanate didn't sound like me..at first. lol but, in the end, I decided to stick with the "official" hour-that way, if there is a mistake, it's someone else's fault, not mine and astrology's lol -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 5:16 AM"my birth hour, according to the hospital certificate is 18:20, but 18:21 makes me a taurus decanate, so I changed it, thinking it was a one minute mistake, because the cap decanate didn't sound like me..at first. lol but, in the end, I decided to stick with the "official" hour-that way, if there is a mistake, it's someone else's fault, not mine and astrology's lol"
Hmmm ok. I'm thinking that Taurus decanate would suit you better though! I don't see you as Cap decanate which is why I checked it in the first place! Maybe your one minute 'mistake' is actually better? -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 5:29 AMI don't think so. I already have Venus opposite my AC, so that's more than enough to give me a strong Taurus vibe. Though I'm not a workaholic(yet!.LOL), I do believe a lot in what virgo/cap(plus aries dwad) would believe in-which is striving to be the best version of yourself, and hopefully learning to use that in a "productive" way.
And I can see the cap on my physical appearance, as well-dry skin, somewhat droopy eyes-mark of saturnian sadness-and overall, a very "scholarly look", sometimes. -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 5:44 AM"And I can see the cap on my physical appearance, as well-dry skin, somewhat droopy eyes-mark of saturnian sadness-and overall, a very "scholarly look", sometimes."
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 12:05 PMMantis and Paul,
You guys are saying that a rising capricorn physical appearance is droopy eyes? And dry skin? I am asking because my husbands birth certificate says he was born at 10:15 making him a rising cap but at 10:14 he would be a rising sag...I was confused as to which he really was since its that close. He has droopy eyes and dry skin!!
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 12:42 PMSarah
lol I don't know about the 'droopy' eyes, but dry skin sounds pretty Capricornian to me.
Though I guess bone structure might also be important. I've noted that people with Saturn in the first house or conjunct the ascendant often have skin problems of some sort or another, normally dry skin or exema (no idea how to spell that). -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 12:46 PM'eczema'
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 12:55 PMhmm he has venus in his first house in aquarius but his first house is really big and crosses over 2 or three signs depending on his correct rising sign. He has dry skin and sometimes scratches his legs so much that it bleeds especially in the winter! He has nervous habits (stress related) but he is built like a Sagittarius is this because he is a sun Sagittarius or is he a rising sag as well?
His moon is in virgo so I feel like I could get confused with the stress stuff because of his finiky moon and I know virgo's can be critical and negative...what is a good description of a rising capricorn? I have read online before but I feel like people's opinions are better than a description on a website especially if anyone knows a rising capricorn. -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 12:56 PMOh yeah and I am sure his droopy eyes is his heritage he is serbian hahaha his eyes remind me of Sylvester Stallones and I believe I read he is serbian too ;) -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 2:11 PMLOL. I'm Serbian, too...-well I'm 12.5% Serbian, 12.5% Macedonian, 18.5%German, 6.25% Greek, and 6.25% Bulgarian, and the rest of about 50%, Romanian. But I seriously doubt that droopy eyes are a Serbian thing, since I know a lot of Serbs, and they don't have droopy eyes.
If anything, the "southern" slavic peoples-meaning former Yugoslavia very often have almond-shaped eyes. I do, too-almonds that droop towards the outer corners, though. LOL -
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 2:16 PMYep sounds like you both have a lot of the same heritage because he is German as well...very interesting too that your rising sign is effected by one minute!! Its so confusing because I am constantly trying to figure out which one fits him best. Your rising sign is your first impression correct that you give to others? -
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 3:57 AMyes, the rising rules the "first impression"-together with its aspects and possibly planets in the 1st-some claim, but I don't see how planets in the 1st influence appearance. they're just more "out there" for the simple fact that the 1st house is all about assertion, so planets in the 1st will show first, as well-but not on the physique.
Well, even if my rising is in the Taurus Decanate, I have Saturn and Neptune in 12 Capricorn, trining it, which could also influence the appearance.
Oh, and another thing that makes me think I'm the Cap Decanate is the fact that my body is slightly heavier from the waist down-another cap rising trait, especially in women's cases.
In terms of first impressions received from others, I'm totally confused, though. Some people have told me that I look "jovial", and like someone who smiles all the time, others, on the contrary, have told me I look overly serious and almost "chaste". One thing is for sure-when I get mad, people feel it right away-I'm guessing due to the Pluto-AC sextile. I rarely get furious, but the few times I do, people have told me I get intense and kinda scary. And I've also been told I have refined, classy features. That sounds like Cap, as well.
On the other hand, it could be that everybody sees me the way they are, not the way I am...LOL
However, the fact that I am able to project a sober aura, as well, makes me believe Saturn's touch is felt on my AC, since a Rising in the Taurus Decanate and Taurus duad of Virgo, aspected by a Sun-Venus conjunction would make it impossible for me to ever seem anything other than cute and possibly a feather-head.
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Thu, November 12, 2009 - 1:17 PMI have a Sag friend who is getting relief for psoriasis from drinking safflower tea. It apparently also helps respiration, and I have found it calming. Just a thought.
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 9:37 PMI'm surprised I ignored a thread with the word "sexual" in it for so long.... it's a good thread.
"One of the people I mentioned I thought would be good at sex had a Virgo-ruled 5th house, so I would imagine he probably put a lot of effort into love-making, and tried ot made it perfect (it was a sort of perfectionist) - but maybe he was over-critical of his partners and himself also."
Ohhh thank you. I was beginning to get worried. Virgo gets such a bad rap, and also likes to worry. Oh dear. I'm not sure if my 5th house cusp is in Virgo or Libra; it depends on the house system. Going by life experience, I'm still not sure because my Sun/Moon midpoint is in Libra and that might be why I've had so many Libra-influenced romances (actually, all the men I've been intimate with had Libra moons). So perhaps it is Libra? If it is, it's ruler is in Virgo, so that makes it even harder to tell. If it is Virgo, the ruler is Mercury, conjunct Sun in 3rd house Leo.
No Jupiter contact to my 5th house cusp, and no surprise there (though Jupiter does square Uranus in the 7th house). I think when the study said the men were known for their sexuality, that has more to do with Jupiter the actual "prowess". I'd associate it more with promiscuity like the article touches on. Usually you get what you pay for, if you know what I mean.
The only aspect my Mars makes (major) is to Venus with a trine, from the 8th house Capricorn (plus Venus squares Saturn). I can identify with that need for status that Yoda was talking about with his ex, but I couldn't let it compromise my need for all-consuming sex on top of it... and part of the "status" is the ability to have that connection. Sex is generally more psychological than physical so being a satisfying lover encompasses more than just copulating, and often gets very creative for that reason... at least in my (few) relationships.
Celibacy is better than mediocre or flippant sex in my opinion, and Jupiter doesn't have any say in that. Nyeh. -
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 3:39 PMI have sagittarius on my 5th house cusp with pisces on my 8th and then have neptune in my 5th house. I definitely like to have a good time and whenever I fall I fall big but for how long is the question...
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Re: Jupiter and Sexual Prowess?
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 7:34 PMJupiter, Mars sagittarius, a sense of playfulness even though they are not in the 5th. Aquarius sun in the 5th, sense of creativity or willingness to nurture the ones I love whether, which means different things depending on the relation-ship. Venus capricorn, if a person is unfaithful/dishonest then loose interest and basically relationship over from my perspective. Saturn taurus, slow moving or slow development over time probably best for better outcome. If impulsiveness happens, then its usually regretted down the road.
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