I've posted similar things in other tribes, in the past, but I thought I'd try it here, because issues with this relationship are coming up again and making me crazy.
This is the composite chart for me and someone with whom I've always had insane, super-magnetic chemistry. I thought I was making it up and it was one-sided for years, finally figured out our connection/attraction was mutual, and the potential inherent in that realization has been the stuff of my daydreams and angst for years since. It's basically an unrealizable situation, which adds to the teasing/allure/temptation, rather than making it fade. We can be around each other sometimes with no problems, and, other times, we fuzz the borders of acceptable friend interactions a bit, which makes me feel very guilty, because we're both partnered. The latter times also get her stuck in my head to the point where I think about her 24/7 for weeks on end. I feel like a love addict. I've been like this about other people throughout my life, but, with her, it's the strongest and longest-lasting.
Our instant connection (we just get each other on a gut level) probably is largely astrologically attributable to our tightly conjunct Moons (in Scorpio, just over a degree apart). Our composite has always intrigued me. The kite formation with the Scorpio cluster around the Midheaven... that isolated Venus in the 6th. I was curious if anyone else had thoughts on it or had astrological examples or stories from their own lives regarding overwhelming chemistry with another person and/or interesting composite charts.
Anyone have any thoughts about limerence and astrology? That's related, and I'm really interested in limerence:
Call me crazy (wouldn't be the first time). But for this chart (composite) you need to tighten it up a bit (also, you need to post synastry). Too much going on here. Can you reduce this to 50% orb pls? It does not necessarily mean I'm right, but it helps (you) focus on the right aspects. To me, it if is something as strong as what you're feeling, than a thinking mind needs dissection in order. Reducing orbs produces order for those in love (hate to be such a machine about it, but it works and I've lived long enough to have been burned by not paying attention to Neptune). I associate Limerence with Neptune.
"I've lived long enough to have been burned by not paying attention to Neptune). I associate Limerence with Neptune."
Yeah, I was definitely leaning towards Neptune with a lot of the limerent feelings I'm having. I'm pretty predisposed towards it, plus I have heavy Neptune influence in my natal chart and so does she (including that I have a within-a-degree trine between my Sun and Neptune and she has Neptune in her 1st house).
Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it! I'll tighten the orbs and repost this chart tomorrow.
(I was also wondering if it could be a bit of a Plutonian obsession thing along with the Neptune idealizing, but we'll see!)
To reduce the orbs by 50%, do I just type in -50 in the orb adjustment setting on astro.com? I tried that, so here's the resulting composite chart:
(It seems only to have taken away a few aspects.)
I'm happy to post my chart, but I'm I'm overly paranoid about the anonymity factor, so I don't think I'll post hers. I know that makes it hard to analyze. I could list certain planets' signs/houses and certain aspects in her chart, though!
Thanks again for having taken the time to even reply to my post!!
Hmm... just noticed that my natal Venus (in Taurus) is opposite our composite Mars (in Scorpio). Don't know if that's a terribly relevant aspect, as I haven't done much of anything, yet, with comparing natal to composite charts, but it seems like it might be an interesting one...
the way to get around this is to erase all personal data either in Paint or when you upload to photobucket use their eraser.
Composites ONLY work when IN a relationships and both TOB are accurate. You can then use transits over this composite and also compare your own natal planet to the composite to see if one of your relates more to THE relationship.
learn composite charts, that describe THE relationship
personallyI prefer a synastry bi wheel Go to astro.com and get FREE charts and synastry bi wheel, found in extended chart selection. Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs. Please also include, vertex, juno and POF (part of fortune).
when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *ASPECT GRID* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL…
problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.
Paste (Ctrl V) into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press ‘direct link’ and past link into thread.... all done :)
I do know how to erase the data, but I'd just rather not share her chart, because all the data can be deciphered pretty easily by looking at it. Thanks, anyway, though! I do have correct TOB info for both of us. Maybe someone else who likes looking at composite charts will hop on this, but, if not, oh well. I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
I like using synastry charts and I've looked over our synastry chart a lot and gotten good insights out of it. But I think the composite is relevant, oftentimes, as well, and this one particularly speaks to me, which is why I'd posted it. It seems to have clear patterns in it. I think the composite chart can convey a lot about connections between people and the direction/purpose of a relationship, particularly if they have any sort of especially strong connection together, which would mean that their energies are blending in ways that seem to be meaningful and have some sort of purpose. And I don't personally think people have to be 'in a relationship' (meaning in an actual, typical sort of romantic relationship) for the composite to be relevant. It's a picture of how the two people's energies merge and if the two people's connection is potent, I think the composite chart is likely to paint an interesting picture of that connection and provide insights into it. That's my take on composite charts, anyhow! I've recently been trying to figure out what our connection is, exactly, and in what direction our relationship is moving (or should move), so that seemed especially like composite chart territory to me.
"I think the composite chart can convey a lot about connections between people and the direction/purpose of a relationship, particularly if they have any sort of especially strong connection together, which would mean that their energies are blending in ways that seem to be meaningful and have some sort of purpose."
I actually agree with SaggiMC on this, there is no way a composite chart can convey anything unless it's 'manifested.' But, again, what the heck has facebook done? Tribe, before it? combined people that have never met.
But..I do have strong feelings about the mis-use of a composite. Actually, the right direction, is natal vs. natal, synastry (natal on natal), and then composite (20 yrs later)...I think that was always the purpose of the composite, but then again, I'm weird ;-)
I really think so.
I respect your opinions, but I still disagree. I think the composite chart does potentially speak to something if the people in question have interacted extensively and have some sort of relationship. This does not have to mean a traditional romantic relationship, in my opinion (family member composite charts, for example, or those for very close friend, for strong enemies maybe, etc.). I think they're worth looking at if the two people have spent a significant amount of time interacting and focusing on one another in some fashion, if the two people deeply effect each other. Then the relationship between them (their combined energies) becomes this other entity, which is symbolized by the composite chart.
I'm not saying that the composite chart is worth looking at for two people who haven't spent a significant amount of time together. I don't think that would be relevant. But, again, if the people have interacted often enough and powerfully enough for their relationship to feel like its own entity - however you wanna look at that concept - I think a composite chart for that relationship is worth taking a look at.
Also, I think saying only a traditional romantic (dating/marriage)-type relationship being the sole focus of composite charts is very limiting, even in the scope of purely romantic/sexual relationships, because some composite charts might point to a lot of factors (such as significant Uranus placements) that would indicate unlikeliness for the relationship to be a traditional romantic one. And, again, that might be one example of looking at the worth of the composite.
I think synastry charts are very informative, but they and composite charts form different pictures and serve different purposes. The synastry chart paints a picture of how the two people interact and the influence they have upon one another. The composite chart depicts the relationship, itself, as its own entity. I think they're both useful, though, of course, in different ways and with regard to different types of relationships.
Aaaanyway... tangent aside. I know people have differing opinions about various sorts of methods of relationship analysis, and that's fine, of course. We don't need to all convert each other to the same ideas or anything. I just put this out there initially in case someone who WAS interested in composite chart analysis wanted to respond.